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4th and Short Podcast: The Panthers were bad against the Saints again, but maybe they’ll do better this week

We've got a review of the Saints game and a preview of the Vikings game with a new host

NFL: Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Carolina Panthers Bob Donnan-USA TODAY Sports

Brian is out for the episode, so Jonathan takes over as host and runs a two person show with Brad. The two share their thoughts on the Panthers loss to the Saints in New Orleans. Topics of discussion include optimistic/pessimistic reviews from both sides of the ball, a Shula/Rivera review, and general takeaways from the game. They also preview Carolina's upcoming match-up with Minnesota Vikings. They talk about what scares them most about this Vikings team, what the Panthers need to do to win, and final score predictions. There's also a discussion about ESPN's old "Jacked Up" segment and how poorly it's aged.

The Panthers were bad against the Saints again, but maybe they’ll do better against the Vikings

(Outro song credit: Trigger by Deaf Havana)