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No Charges Filed Against Dre Kirkpatrick

Tip of the hat to 'pantherdiehard' for his fanpost bringing this to my attention

Less than 20 days after Alabama CB Dre Kirkpatrick was arrested for marijuana possession the charges have been dropped.

For those who doubted: NO CHARGES FILED against me for marijuana bust in Florida. #innocent #Bama #NFLDraft

Dre Kirkpatrick, via Twitter

It should be interesting how analysts view this news, as many had revised their mocks and dropped Dre K as many as 15 spots in the wake of the arrest. The off-field issue is secondary of course to his on field play, something that is still somewhat of a mystery. The combine will be vital to Kirkpatrick as he hopes to prove he is a true cornerback, and not a safety in CB clothing. Should he be able to win over scouts that he has the ability to play outside then he's a likely lock as a top 10 pick, however he could be available in the 20's or later if he shows that he will need to be converted to safety in the NFL.

Whether he's a corner or a safety when it all shakes out, the Panthers are in dire need of both positions. Kirkpatrick is definitely a player to watch moving forward.

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If he does well at the Combine and keeps his nose clean, this will be a distant memory come April. If he stinks it up and stays in the headlines, it’s going to have an effect on his draft stock.

I’m not sure about DK. Not with the 8th pick. If there are questions about whether he can play CB, then I think he is a mid to late first—certainly not a top 10 pick. If he goes to Indy and blows it up, then it helps, but we have already seen the most compelling evidence: his play in games.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 9:22 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

I’m not that enamored with Kirkpatrick to be honest. I do really like Minnifield though, but you’re taking the risk of him being available at our 2nd round pick with him.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 7, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure I understand

He’s always been a corner right? Has a scouting report come out saying hes got stiff hips or bad footwork? I’ve never heard anything that says he shouldn’t be a corner but I may just be uninformed.

by DoubleT-Dlo on Feb 7, 2012 10:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He's big and might not be as fluid as you'd like.

Which would lead him to being moved to FS.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 7, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Has his film showed reason for concern?

Or is it only his size that is concerning?

by DoubleT-Dlo on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He played a lot of press zone. So he would jam his man, then release him to the safety and stay in the flat.

He’s got the dreaded “Cover 2 corner” moniker attached to his name. Having seen 4 or 5 ‘Bama games this season, I’d say some of the ‘criticism’ is warranted, some not. The point is there are doubts about his ability to turn and run with receivers.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh ok

So he’s not a bump and run man coverage guy? That changes my perspective on him. I want a young Gamble clone lol

by DoubleT-Dlo on Feb 7, 2012 10:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He is not as fluid.

He’s bigger and stronger than Gamble, and is a better tackler. He just has problems with the turn and burn.

And in my opinion, RR and SD want a couple of corners who can hold up in one on one situations. This would allow us to bring 5 or 6 guys on the rush without getting exposed. The problem with DK is you have to keep a safety deep behind him, ecspecially if he’s lined up on a reciever who likes to run deep routes and/or double moves.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that something that can be coached?

Or is it size related and not correctable? It sounds like that is a footwork problem or he doesn’t get his hips around fast enough. He’s been my pick for awhile but this is concerning. I’ve read he’s great at attacking in a multitude of ways. That he finds the ball well in the air, that he’s a great blitzer, and that he will go for the strip often. He’s not slow right? It sounds like we would just need to help him react better to the turn-n-burn.

by DoubleT-Dlo on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He's not awful at it.

It’s just not as clean as you’d like in a top-10 CB.

And as we’ve seen, if you have the slightest weakness in coverage, teams in the NFL are going to exploit it.

His physicality, toughness, tackling and his ability to close and finish are great, however (and that’s why you see the “safety” thing floating around).

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the best thing for him is a move to FS.

I don’t know if I want him at 8/9, but it’s not like we have a dominating safety duo either. We could use Dre K even if we move him to FS.

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not that enamored with him anyway...

But I don’t let positional bias dictate who we draft and when we draft them. If he’s the best player at a position we need help at, then go for it. Position doesn’t matter, unless that position is Offensive Guard. Those guys should never go top 10.

That last bit was just for you Jake. I hope you appreciate the snark. ;-)

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I appreciate the snark.

But it’s not that I wouldn’t be interested in a top-10 safety its that I wouldn’t be interested in HIM as a top-10 safety. I don’t think you draft a guy in the top-10 to change his position.

@But it’s fine for a second round pick, especially if you’re going to

move him to a position he hasn’t played since high school.@

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 7, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Damnit

Sarcasm font fail.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 7, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Was just thinking that.

We could use him at safety but not at 8/9. But if he’s a safety then he’s not going to be rated that highly correct? But still a 1st rounder? Making him only available through a trade back?

by DoubleT-Dlo on Feb 7, 2012 11:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, with a guy like DK, you can do a lot in your secondary.

He can pretty much lineup at any position and be at least serviceable, which in itself is intriguing.

What I like most is he could be that TE neutralizer that we need to find if we want to win this division.

I guess the problem with drafting DK and moving him to FS (primarily) is we’d still have the hole at CB. But you’d think we could find a CB in FA—or later in the draft—who could compete with 41.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

We could move Sherrod to CB.

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

Slowly bringing gun to head...

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Do it quickly

Just get it over with.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 7, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

Do you think he get’s cut? I would guess not, but if there’s a bubble his ass is on it.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, the whole "I think he plays safety" thing was the deal breaker to me.

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he does.

He was pretty darn good just a year ago and he’s cheap. But I wouldn’t hesitate to spend a high-ish draft pick on a safety this year.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't Sherrod another failed position coversion

Why do we want to keep drafting players to teach them a new position and then go through the growing pains when so many good plug-n-play players are available? Let’s save that for the 6th+ round.

I really don’t see much difference between Sherrod and Dre.

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by Panthster on Feb 7, 2012 12:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That's a ridiculous statement to make.

Yes Sherrod was a switch, but to say that you don’t see much difference between Martin and Kirkpatrick means you’re just not paying attention.

And it’s not like the CB-to-Safety switch is that uncommon of a change.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 7, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched Martin in college, frankly

I don’t see a lot of difference either.

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by Vagus on Feb 7, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No Swagga, younohaimsain?

Well na man, he ain’t the playa I’d chew… Younohaimsain?

by Panthster on Feb 7, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure why......

but this struck me as funny as hell. Well done!

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by ALAC on Feb 7, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually Sherrod was a safety at Troy.

We tried him at CB, he played some safety, then we tried him at CB, and decided to move him back to S.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

And might I add that Godfrey was a CB at Iowa his whole career.

Iowa plays a 4-3 cover 3 zone pretty much every down so he did a lot of safety things in that defense, but technically he was a CB.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the best argument for DK IMO - we have to find someone to

match up with Graham, Gonzales, and Winslow.

Used to be TD…but poor guy keeps getting hurt.

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by Vagus on Feb 7, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Or Hogan could save the day

by DoubleT-Dlo on Feb 7, 2012 11:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Good point

Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

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by Vagus on Feb 7, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. Good call.

That would be ideal.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Good instincts.

Something that Cap’n seems to struggle with. Cap’n was often a step behind, and it had nothing to do with being two inches shorter than you’d like him to be.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

In limited time

Hogan covering was solid. He made it look effortless out there. Still too small a sample. I still hold to the Ladarius Webb comparison, which is a great thing if he can live up to that level of play.

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by jdough on Feb 7, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if Hogan ends up being a good CB.

Then there’s no harm in having three starting-caliber CBs, hell I’d say it’s almost a necessity in today’s NFL. I like Butler and Munnerlyn as nickelbacks, but Hogan has the upside to be better than both of them.

If you can add a stud CB to go with Gamble and a “good” Hogan then we’re set at the CB position for a while.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I still prefer a defensive lineman or offensive line even over a DB

Coples, Stills, Brockers, Ingram…pass rush is critical. Two team s in the Super Bowl this weekend with par to sub-par DBs…

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by Vagus on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

You look there first. Look at the ball and work your way out.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I prefer a defensive lineman in the first

Because this year’s class of cornerbacks is pretty deep. I’d agree that our focus in the first should be on the lines.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

It will be interesting to see how RR and Hurney draft this year. If we don’t see early corner help I think we can bet RR really likes Hogan. And I’d rather have 2 good-great corners and some help on the D line than 3 good-great corners.

by DoubleT-Dlo on Feb 7, 2012 11:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Lots Of Career CB's (Mostly 6-2 Or Over) Get To The Combine & Show Stiff Hips So They Can't Turn & Run With Receivers Quickly Enough

Also, the Panthers need to create more turnovers, and Kirkpatrick only had 3 ints in his 3 years at Alabama.

by PanthersRoar on Feb 7, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Regardless of whether or not he was found innocent

His stock will definitely be hurt just by the arrest alone. Granted, it may go back up but he may be a mid first rounder on most mocks. I will have no problem if Carolina takes him, but it seems they may lean towards DT in the first round.

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by Disciple of Carolina on Feb 7, 2012 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

Word is that the driver who also played for Bama took the charge for him. Dre probably told him that he would compensate him nicely when he makes it big.

we played against each other like puppets, swearin you got pull
when the only pull you got is the wool over your eyes
Gettin knowledge in jail like a blessing in disguise
Look in the skies for God, what you see besides the smog
is broken dreams flying away on the wings of the obscene
Thoughts that people put in the air
Places where you could get murdered over a glare
But everything is fair
It's a paradox we call reality
So keepin it real will make you casualty of abnormal normality

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by tonytuch_99 on Feb 7, 2012 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

I know it's judgmental and being judgmental is wrong, but this is my theory too.

Charges being dropped doesn’t equal “Dre K is innocent”. I think this is a case where someone is taking the fall for him, and until proof comes out to contradict it that’s the theory I’m going with.

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

That was the sense I got too.

“Dude, I’ll pay the fine for you once I get my signing bonus.”

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 7, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

To me, it doesn't change anything.

He was still in the car. He still made a number of bad decisions that day.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Eggs Zachary.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

To be fair though

It’s just one incident. It’s not like he has a history of this.

by JDeLong42 on Feb 8, 2012 2:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure that will be accounted for when he is being evaluated.

I’m much more concerned with evaluating his ability on the field. And frankly I’ll need to see more in the next few months before I feel good about him at #8 or 9.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 8, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

In The Other Post On This Topic It Was Reported That Kirkpatrick Admits To Being In The Car When The Guy Purchased The Pot & That It Was Clearly Seen In The Floor At His Feet, That's Really Bad Judgement By Kirkpatrick

That’s why this latest news is even more disturbing to me. If the friend had just had it in his pocket when he got in the car, then Kirpatrick couldn’t have known. Kirkpatrick claims he didn’t know about the drugs, but how can you set in the same car, at the same time, and not know that a buy is going down?

This raises new questions about Kirkpatrick’s lack of good judgement, and the friends he choses.

by PanthersRoar on Feb 7, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

whatver its just weed

it’s not like he was charged with assault or rape.

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by Night_Scratcher on Feb 7, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

The weed isn't the issue.

It’s the stupidity of putting yourself in a situation where the people you are with can be arrested for something (in this case, weed) just under two months before the biggest job interview of your life.

Personally, I don’t care if he (or anyone else) smokes weed every day for the rest of his life. If that’s your thing, then go for it. I don’t care. But, I do care that he’s dumb enough to hang around people who parade the streets with illegal substances in their possession. (Whether or not it should be legal is a different issue altogether. The fact is marijuana is illegal, and therefore Dre K shouldn’t have been involved with it in a place where he could be arrested for it.)

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I think most people here would agree with you to an extent.

But most people here aren’t creating draft boards and hinging their future on 22 year-olds.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Please note that my comment was intended to be from the perspective of an organization interested in drafting him.

Personally, I couldn’t care less if he smokes weed. It wouldn’t change my opinion of his on-field play one bit. But, I’m certain that the Carolina Panthers (and the other 31 teams) do care to a certain extent.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree ms disagree

I believe a statistic came out recently (no link but I read it on here) that approx. 75% o te league smokes weed. I’m sure coaches by the end of the season no exactly who those ppl are. I don’t think they care at all if those players produce. At the same time I agree that most coaches and organizations probably do care if someone is stupid enough to get caught. I’ve smoked weed walking down the street before. You have to almost wave it in front of a cops face or be driving terribly for a cop to arrest you. So to get caught is pretty bad. I would also question his work ethic just bc as a pothead I’m well aware that it effects my work ethic in a very negative way. Katt Williams says it puts that “fuck it” in your system and he’s right lol.

by DoubleT-Dlo on Feb 7, 2012 1:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Katt Williams?

You mean that little Lucky Charms motherf@#ker? lol

No Damon! I am a boy!

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the one lol

He’s a wise man w many lessons to teach. My favorite of which is to stop buying Chrysler 30’s just bc you think it looks like a phantom. “it don’t look like no mother f@coin phantom. You might think it does til a mother f@coin phantom pulls up next to you!”

by DoubleT-Dlo on Feb 7, 2012 2:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Underrated comic.

His role in Friday After Next was awesome, even if the movie as a whole was ‘meh.’

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey mods, I have a concern

The Manning vs. Manning story seems to be breaking the page for IE. And no, I don’t have a choice to not use IE. Nothing else loads once the page reaches that story, sidebars and everything. When you go into another story like this one, you can access the sidebars. Mind looking into it? Maybe some busted up code in there is screwing things up.

by ppalm on Feb 7, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

I don't see anything in there that should break IE. I don't know what the deal is.

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not just on his end.

I tried opening it in IE and I’m getting the same problems. Fortunately, I use Firefox.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 7, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I know...there have been several complaints about it.

I just don’t have a solution, because a) I refuse to use IE, and b) I’m not a tech admin for SBN.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

If you consider IE to be a "web browser", then yes.

Personally, I’d rather go back to pen and paper than use IE.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Chisel, rock and hammer.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I didn't want to be overly cruel.

But, yeah.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, of course that is just some of my oft-used hyperbole.

But I do find it slower and more layered.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

At work we refer to it as Internet Exploder

I’m not a fan.

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by Vagus on Feb 7, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Is that a distant cousin of the Ford Exploder?

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Same last name...related at some point ;-)

Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

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by Vagus on Feb 7, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Go for him

I think if Dre goes to the combine and looks good we draft him. If he looks like a conversion over to safety then we draft Oline/Dline. I think with the injuries players coming back next season at LB (beason not Davis) and DT (Edwards) our run D and D line isn’t as bad as our secondary. I know this draft is CB deep but I would rather get someone that could dominate the position rather then be a starter at the position. There is no guarantee a 1st rounder will be that person but the odds go up.

by DoubleT-Stewart on Feb 7, 2012 3:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think just Beason will move us up from 27th to, say, 18th or so.

But I still believe we need to add several more pieces to our front 7.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

9 spots man? Lol

Beason is beast but that is a lot for one man to do.

by DoubleT-Dlo on Feb 7, 2012 4:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey, we were 18th in 2010 with Beast.

Don’t see Derek Landri, Dick Marshall, Tyler Brayton and Ed Johnson being too much better than what we had at the end of the this past season.

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Hogan

I want Hogan to work out but I don’t think there is enough data to say he is set. And if hogan is the answer then with Dre that would be a great CB combination.

by DoubleT-Stewart on Feb 7, 2012 3:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

And

Gamble is not galetting any younger

by DoubleT-Dlo on Feb 7, 2012 4:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

As long as he can explain as to why he was in this situation in the first place to NFL Front Offices, his draft stock should be fine.

Personally, I think we need to choose someone who can make a big impact from day 1, Kirkpatrick possibly being that guy.

Cam Newton, when a reporter asks him who will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday: "I'll tell you Sunday."

by Son of a Newton on Feb 7, 2012 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

As long as his explanation isn't "someone had to be the driver, and it was my turn", then yeah. ;-)

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Feb 7, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Y’all mind if I smoke some weed?

We need a nose tackle.

by ERL on Feb 7, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol.

Cam Newton, when a reporter asks him who will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday: "I'll tell you Sunday."

by Son of a Newton on Feb 7, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

With a name like "Dre" how can you not like "The Chronic"?

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by Swamp Panther on Feb 7, 2012 6:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Dre's pachent for weed does give me some pause in selecting him in the 1st round.

When someone is smoking weed the very next question I usually ask: “Is that all?”

Marijuana is an addictive thing. We can argue whether or not it is harmful for your body all day like society likes to do. But one thing for certain is that it doesn’t do anything good for your body. And when you’re into that kind of lifestyle, the next thing I ask is if he takes anything else. Is he taking LSDs? Crack? How deep into drugs is he and is it in danger of taking over his life? These are all questions that society tends to be sensitive with, but none of the less needs to be asked if he wishes to take on a professional career. You’re about to invest millions of dollars into the man and a valuable draft pick.

I’m all for having ‘fun’ if that what you go for in life. Do it in moderation. But just from common knowledge and looking around at the people who do these things starting down the path of drugs is a very slippery slope. Wherever Dre goes, I hope he gets a lot of counseling in this part of his life. Weed and success do not intermix without difficulty. It would be best if he leaves this kind of life in the past.

More pertaining to the story, it is hard to judge situations like this. Dre could have easily turned and said “Yo! Take the fall for this and after I’m a millionaire in a couple of months I’ll make it worth your while.” We’ll see what happens. I trust the Panthers and Marty Hurney to make due diligence in his research. He has usually nailed 1st round picks in the past.

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D

by Revshawn on Feb 7, 2012 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Rev, couple things.

1) It’s LSD not LSDs, kind of like sheep and deer in the plural form.

2) I haven’t smoked marijuana in 13 years but when I did not once did it cross my mind to smoke crack. Have you ever seen someone addicted to crack? Try to catch an episode or two of Intervention on A&E. There is no such thing as a “casual crackhead”. If Dre K smoked crack he would not be able to perform at the level he has without offering to felate WR’s for crack money.

Does weed lead to other things? Absolutely. Mostly Doritos and long naps though.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Feb 7, 2012 7:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It does tend to progress if you have certain kinds of personalities, especially if you hang out with the wrong people.

I have a extended memory of my family right now that got into that stuff. I think it’s a distant aunt on my mother’s side. But her mind is so fried she can hardly make conversation with anyone anymore. It started with beer, progressed to weed, and it went right onto other stuff. I think it was the crowd she was hanging out with. She was always a partier kind of person. I guess she got involved with the wrong people. She’s clean now, but the damage is already done. Luckily she has a few members of the family that can take care of her.

I’m just generally anti-drug I guess. I’ve been around and I’ve seen it ruin lives. I’ve seen good people turn into complete jerks while they’re under the influence. And it is mostly irritating.

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D

by Revshawn on Feb 7, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

*member of family, not memory.

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D

by Revshawn on Feb 7, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough. I hope things work out for that member of your family.

Granted it happens, and for those it happens to it’s usually from the reason you cited or a general lack of not caring about ones well being for one reason or another.

I tend to agree with BW Smitty, I have no desire to jeapordize my life doing something illegal but if someone else wants to then have at it.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Feb 7, 2012 7:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Marijuana is an addictive thing

Mentally, yes it is (as is just about anything enjoyable). But if you mean physically (as in you need it to function), then you are wrong.

"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."

by Riddlah. on Feb 10, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

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