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Checking the Rear View: A Look Back at CSR Pre-Combine 2011

Would Steve Smith have been the deciding factor in the Super Bowl if the Patriots had worked the rumored offseason trade?

This time of year I always wonder who's opinion to trust as far as prospect rankings, rumors and mock drafts. I always find it at least slightly enlightening to look back and see what we can learn from last year in order to extrapolate what might happen this year. So I took a gander back to February 2011 on CSR to see what we were talking about, what our predictions were and to see if we can use any of that info in 2012. Below are some links to those I found interesting, again pre-combine CSR posts.

Remember at this point we were wondering if the Panthers might trade out of the #1 pick because a reported six other teams had Newton ranked #1? I'm thinking a lot more teams had him #1 than six:

Is the storm becoming perfect for the Panthers to trade out of #1? - Cat Scratch Reader
The idea of trading back seemed like a pipe dream, that was until Cam Newton held his private workout for the media and now everyone is getting worked into a tizzy. It first came with the news that (as it stands) there are six teams who have Newton rated as the best player in the 2011 draft, then Newton held his workout and Trent Dilfer was gushing, followed by NFL insider Matt Maiocco mocking Newton to the Panthers at #1, Charles Davis of NFL network said Newton would be a dark horse for the #1 overall pick and now Mel Kiper can boarded the train moving Newton up to #3 overall on in his mock draft (he has the Panthers taking Fairley #1 overall).

Obviously Kiper is not the guru many thinks he is but I think that's already a collective 'Duh' here on CSR. Charles Davis on the other hand seemed to have a better grip on reality. I'm going to keep my ears open for what he has to say...

So look at what other position Rivera was discussing at this point last season and he backed that up with two 3rd round selections:

Ron Rivera addresses media at the NFL Combine - Cat Scratch Reader
Rivera told the media there were '8-10 players' under consideration for the #1 overall pick, specifically mentioning the quarterback and defensive line positions. He went on to say that the Panthers intend to bring Auburn QB Cam Newton to Charlotte for a private visit.

Last year the Panthers first brought in Nick Fairley for a private workout, then Newton so the Michael Brockers visit might not mean anything. Though I wouldn't rule Brockers out for being picked at 8-9 I'm sure the Panthers would rather drop back a few picks before selecting him.

Star-divide

Remember the QB formulas we were batting around last year and Newton really didn't measure up because of his low number of starts and completion %?

A Formula for Drafting QBs That Works? - Cat Scratch Reader
Here's the ones that fail the rule (minus the Wunderlic test score obviously): Failed the rule (due to low starts or completion %): Locker, Kaepernick, Stansi, Newton, Mallet Passed the Rule (No Wunderlic): Gabbert, Ponder, McElroy, Dalton

I guess we need to tweak that formula a bit...

We discussed this topic on Cat Scratch Radio last night but thought I would revisit it. Did Bowers slide to the 2nd round because of his physical (knee issue) AND the fact he didn't participate at the combine to try an alleviate concerns?

Da'Quan Bowers will only lift at the combine - Cat Scratch Reader

I don't really understand the decision by Bowers given that as it stands he's not a lock for a top four spot. It appears he will likely be fighting for that position with Nick Fairley, Patrick Peterson, AJ Green and Cam Newton. For a player who has been regarded by some as 'lazy', and only showing one dominant year in his college career I find it slightly worrisome that he's not willing to show his full suite of skills for scouts. Auburn prospects Nick Fairley and Cam Newton have gone on the record as saying they will 'fully participate' in all drills in Indianapolis.

The guy played all 16 games (6 starts) and had an okay season (see below). If I were him I would have to wonder how much money that decision might have cost me being it was an unwarranted concern (at least to date anyway)


Sacks Interceptions Tackles
G Sacks YdsL Int Yds IntTD Solo Ast Total
2011 - Da'Quan Bowers 16 1.5 7.5 0 0 0 22 3 25

Turns out his only full sack on the season was on our very own Cam Newton...

Remember this? Thank the Lord it did not happen though I'm sure the Patriots wish they had Smitty in the SB, he might have been the difference given all the dropped balls:

Rumor Circulating: Patriots Interested in Steve Smith - Cat Scratch Reader
Anyway if the Patriot fans think we would give Smith up for a 4th rounder I would hope we wouldn't go that cheap unless there is a guy on the board we are just in love with...hence I can see a draft day trade involving Smith but nothing prior to the draft.

A 4th rounder, Ha!

Big Cat was true to his word on this one...

Panthers Reaffirm Plans to Re-Sign All Three Top FA's - Cat Scratch Reader
"I know Mr. Richardson has gotten some bad press lately, but I think those are things that are going to happen in a negotiation," Kalil said, referring to recent reports Richardson was condescending to players during CBA talks. "But at the end of the day, he's definitely somebody that the guys here do like and respect. I know we went through a rebuilding phase here last year, and it might not look good. But the decisions he and Marty made have inspired some guys, and they want to stay here and make it right. "I think with where we are now, guys realize that this organization is set up to go out and get these guys under contract, to keep these free agents. Between that and coach (Ron) Rivera and the staff he assembled, I think a lot of guys are really excited."

It didn't leave us with any cap space this year but I'm confident the Panthers have a 3-5 yr plan they are following that will result in a SB sooner rather than later...

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"If Grandma had balls she'd be Grandpa" Steve Smith

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Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time

"I don't see no ceiling. I don't see no breaking point." - Cam Newton

by MMA_PITBULL on Feb 22, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I really hate NFL network

they either need to get it worked out with TWC or stop showing primetime games and the combine on it.

by Atlantapanther on Feb 22, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

TWC likes being able to offer their customers service on all platforms. Internet Cable Phone etc. NFL Network has a exclusive deal with Verizon that limits them from offering other companys multi platform access to the product. Until TWC can have it they wont deal. I got my fingers crossed they get it done before the 2012 season

"If Grandma had balls she'd be Grandpa" Steve Smith

Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!

Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time

"I don't see no ceiling. I don't see no breaking point." - Cam Newton

by MMA_PITBULL on Feb 22, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

here’s a schedule if anyone’s interested
http://www.nflcombine.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/gen_sched_2012.pdf
workouts don’t start until Saturday

by jcbouche on Feb 22, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember all of the trade rumors around Smitty at the time

i was honestly insulted. People saying we could get a 3rd or 4th for him. I said no way in hell! I would sooner give a 3rd to keep him than take one to let him leave.

I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was

by pcroadrage on Feb 22, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

Crazy Crazy Crazy Past Year

Was a good refreshing feel to having a front office committed to the team, and coaching staff capable of doing something with it.

Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano

by AParker on Feb 22, 2012 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

Thank goodness, they made the right choices

Can you imagine where we would be if we had picked Gabbert and let Smitty walk? We would have gotten higher post-draft grades but we would be doomed. Doomed, I tell you.

by Panthster on Feb 22, 2012 12:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Im glad we didnt trade Smitty. Him and Cam are a great duo. Smitty said it early last year i wish he was like 5 years younger. Him and Cam would of been fun to watch for the next decade

"If Grandma had balls she'd be Grandpa" Steve Smith

Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!

Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time

"I don't see no ceiling. I don't see no breaking point." - Cam Newton

by MMA_PITBULL on Feb 22, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

If only Smitty had an elite QB to throw to him for the first 10 years of his career.

I’d say he’s made the most of it. The problem is good free agent QBs (like Brees) were available just after we completed a good season. Whatever may have happened, it led to us drafting Cam. I’m happy with that.

by Atlantapanther on Feb 22, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Smitty still has plenty left in the tank

Especially if we make it easier on him by throwing more to LaFell, Ghettis or Blackmon more. No to the Nanna.

by Panthster on Feb 22, 2012 12:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think LaFell emergence at the end of the season pretty much sealed Legedu's fate.

He’ll be looking for a new team in a week, IMO.

"Puttin' DB's to sleep since '86-'87."

by ERL on Feb 22, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha

No thats my stupid left thumb. It’s always goophing around trying to make me look bad on this cell phone.

by Panthster on Feb 22, 2012 1:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Such a difference a year makes

I think I speak for everyone in saying we we’re all on the verge of going insane last offseason (rumors of Smitty getting traded, DeAngelo leaving, not enough cap room, Cam would be a terrible pick, rabble rabble rabble.)

"What do you want to say to those critics now?"
"Just sit back and watch the show." -Cam Newton

by Smitty89 on Feb 22, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

OT, but draft related.

Dear God, please let this be true:

Stephen Garcia scouted by Falcons.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Feb 22, 2012 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

They must be on the lookout for someone to make the 1am beer-runs.

"Puttin' DB's to sleep since '86-'87."

by ERL on Feb 22, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL probably.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Feb 23, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

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