Justin Blackmon- New Flavor of the Month for Panthers
by James Dator on Feb 21, 2012 5:00 AM EST
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PrintJanuary was the month of Kirkpatrick and Brockers, and now February is shaping up to be Justin Blackmon central, at least in terms of mocking him to the Carolina Panthers. Scout's Inc. and Todd McShay have the Oklahoma State WR falling to the Panthers at #9, which is a slight shock given two months ago there were legitimate mocks that had him being the #2 overall pick and heading to St. Louis.
We've talked the pros and cons of drafting a WR at length, but I think it's important to understand what Blackmon brings to the table should be fall to the Panthers. This is what the National Football Post say on the draft's best pass catcher:
JUSTIN BLACKMON WR, Oklahoma State
2011 GRADE: 7.5 C HT: 6-1 WT: 215
The lack of straight-line speed will limit him however, and when comparing him to first round receivers A.J. Green and Julio Jones last year, I don't think he's in their class. Nevertheless, he's got the skill set to line-up all over an NFL offense and make plays on all levels of the field.
The grade of 7.5 projects him thusly:
7.5 Becomes a starter during his rookie year... A prospect who possesses physical attributes that will create mismatches vs. most opponents... A featured player on team.
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Okay, so I think most already understood that he's no A.J. Green or Julio Jones, but he doesn't carry the top-5 price tag that those players did. Blackmon compares far more favorably to second level receivers we've seen recently like DeSean Jackson and Dez Bryant. He's a play maker who could immediately satiate the Panthers' needs at WR for a long time, and lessen the eventual impact when Steve Smith decides to hang it up.
The allure for Hurney and Co. could be too much if Blackmon is on the board at their pick. Detroit gave us the rubric for what can happen when you pair a young QB with a young WR, and the results were sensation. The Panthers could do a lot worse than shape their offense around a pairing of Newton and Blackmon.
I'll admit, Justin Blackmon isn't a WR who translates to film very well. The fact is, TV feeds don't really do him justice. While he may not have that elite speed you'd like to see, he does have insanely crisp route running which tends to get him a lot of separation. If you're anything like me you'll probably think it all looks way too easy for him, and the truth is- it was.
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Trade Back?
How’s the feeling about trading back for more picks, based on need and Cap room?
by bigblackcatfan on Feb 21, 2012 6:02 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Easier said than done.
Teams don’t care to give up the necessary compensation to get into the top ten. Everybody brings up trading down like it’s an easy option. The reality is that teams usually aren’t lined up around the block, with picks in hand, ready to move up.
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by ALAC on Feb 21, 2012 6:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly, I don't think the common fan or ESPN commentor realize this
Well said.
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by OldhamA on Feb 21, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I never expected an Ice Cube reference from you.
Well done sir.
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That's funny, because
I’m always disappointed when Oldham fails to provide us with an Ice Cube reference.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Feb 21, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
lol
I don't want to draft Michael Brockers or Devon Still. Chris Kreider is the future.
by Son of a Newton on Feb 21, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
You mean...
We’re not going to trade our 8th pick for seven first round picks, sign T.O. and Randy Moss and trade them for seventeen first round picks, trade Thomas Davis for six first round picks, trade Jimmy Clausen for a 2nd rounder, and finally sign Drew Brees and trade him for Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski?
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by ERL on Feb 21, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
No, because we'd be getting shortchanged in that deal.
We should at least get a comparable player for Clausen with that 2nd rounder. I figure Aaron Rodgers should be ok as a throw-in. After all, we’re going to need a 3rd string QB.
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by BW Smith on Feb 21, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Discount Double check!!!
"It is now official... Cam Newton is now the face of our franchise.
by Caro2daheart... on Feb 21, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks ERL
This is great… best post in about a week!!!
"It is now official... Cam Newton is now the face of our franchise.
by Caro2daheart... on Feb 21, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
I think I actually did something like that on Madden 2004...
Sign the highest rated free agents to a one year deal…trade them for a 1st round pick. Rinse repeat…
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exactly
to trade back the pick you have has to be worth something to someone who can’t get it at their current draft position, and it has to be worth enough more than what they can get at their draft position for them to be willing to pay the price we’d ask for moving out of our draft position. I know that’s a mouthful, but when you say it out loud like that it really illustrates the rarity of the possibility. Additionally there seems to be precisely 7 ‘elite’ players in this draft and plenty of guys that could go anywhere from 8-15 or perhaps higher. This leads to a dearth of potential trade partners because all of the teams drafting in positions we’d be willing to trade back for know they can get whatever they want with their current draft picks and don’t need anything from us.
I someone doesn’t get James Hurney on the phone with Marty Hurney I’d bet we draft exactly where we are.
Let's wait for the combine...
If he doesn’t have elite speed, then lets see how much faster is he than Jeffrey and Lloyd. Also, how much faster is Kendall Wright than him.
I guess, based on his status right now, if he falls to us, I would be happy we take him, even though I have been shouting for first round help on the defensive side and personally believe spending a first round pick on a WR is not worth it.
Speed isn't the only thing; if it were, Joe Adams wouldn't be the 13th ranked WR.
There’s a reason there’s a Biletnikoff Award and it wasn’t Fred’s blazing speed — best routes I’ve ever seen and he could catch the ball before he used stickum!
If Blackmon can get free and make a play, he’s what every QB wants.
He's the most polished receiver in this draft.
Is he the best? I’m not sure.
I’d like to see who else is available at our pick before taking him.
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Blackmon reminds me of David Boston
Really skilled but is he going to be all about football? Are the DUI’s in the past? David Boston even played at top 5 reciever in the league levels for a few seasons before drinking and lack of focus caught up too him… Blackmon just looks older than he is and that troubles me.
I dont think that will be a problem
Kids make mistakes and I think Blackmon has corrected them. OSU’s coach raves about Blackmon’s work ethic and attention to detail and that is something that will carry him a long way.
Blackmon just looks older than he is and that troubles me.
Why? This isn’t baseball and Blackmon isn’t some Dominican kid that’s listed as 23 but is actually 27.
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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 21, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
Why? This isn’t baseball and Blackmon isn’t some Dominican kid that’s listed as 23 but is actually 27.
When you don’t take care of your body you tend to age. Like drinking and smoking.. i still look 25 where as the people i know from when i was 20 look 55 years old. He looks like he drinks and smokes and that catches up too you. That is all i meant.
And some people just look older than they are.
I think being "troubled’ by that is ridiculous.
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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 21, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
troubled by the sense that he looks like he isn't taking care of his body
Not just because “he looks old” Lebron James looks old. But this guy has Drinking issues and that hurts athletes. Instead of peaking 2 or 3 years from now he could tail off because he isn’t taking care of his body.. alot of players that don’t take care of themselfs tail off. That is all i am getting at. Is it because i am a expert?…nope. But it is just life, you can’t have it both ways and considering his past he likely hasn’t stopped drinking .. and it shows physically over time.
No, he's had one DUI
And not even a “full” DUI at that. He was stopped for speeding and arrested because he was 20 and any trace of alcohol results in a DUI. A beer results in a DUI in that case.
I’m not defending his decision, but I don’t think you can extrapolate that he has a drinking problem from that.
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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 21, 2012 9:45 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don't see anything wrong with a few beers
Just can a elite athlete have the same habits as a regular joe and still met their peak?
I have a friend who is 28
He goes out 3-6 nights a week and gets hammered.
He still looks like he’s 17.
I have another friend who is 29, has never been a huge drinker/smoker etc.
He looks 40.
Some people just look older.
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Boston was a monster.
Pretty sure he was suspended for ’roids, and maybe multiple alcohol violations, too.
But the dude is still the most physically imposing WR I’ve ever seen:
I don’t know, Shank. Maybe he got those guns from all the 12 oz. curls?
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His muscles were too much
literally. he got so juiced he couldn’t play football anymore.
He also got nipple piercings.
Those had to hurt like a bitch under some shoulder pads.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Feb 21, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Blackmon maybe the highest rated player but i don't think he is the best player
Ruben Randle in my opinion is the best reciever in this draft
- big at 6’4"
- expected to run a mid 4.3 40
- good jump ball / high point the football catcher
- one of the best run after catch play makers
- great in the red zone
- a deep threat
On tape you can just see NFL skill level. I compare him too John Taylor after the catch. Andre Johnson type ability. Suffered from average quarterback play. Number one reciever recruit in the Nation when he came to LSU. Steal of this draft
All of the top recievers minus Kendall Wright have speed concerns. Kendall Wright because of size will be limited in the red zone.
Alshon Jeffery = Chris Carter
Justin Blackmon = Mike Williams (Bucs)
Ruben Randle = Andre Johnson
Kendall Wright = Titus Young
Michael Floyd = Miles Austin
Not saying these comparisons will match how good they will be. This is what i see in these players when i take all of the media hype out of the picture.
In my humble opinion Ruben Randle in the 2nd round would be a jack pot for the Panthers and BPA in the first….my opinion
I wouldnt mind having Ruben Randle in the 2nd
but Blackmon is the better NFL prospect as of right now….not saying that he will have the best career but he is by far the best route runner
Chris Carter played at 220 to 215 in his career at 6'3"
Jeffery played at 229 at 6’4"
This plus 50 pounds is big stretch
But we all know that Alshon weighs 300 lbs now.
Don’t you read the news Shank?
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by Caro2daheart... on Feb 21, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I like it
Rueben Randle is no polished product but I’d be surprised if he does not provide a vertical threat in his rookie year. I don’t know if he is a 4.3 guy but he plays fast and he looks like someone who can beat press coverage at the next level. With his size and leaping ability he could also be a red zone threat. I think he is a first round talent and I would not complain if we took him in the second round. It would be great value.
Last year I was big on A.J.Green as a top 5 pick. I don’t see a receiver that is worthy of a top ten pick this year. Blackmon is good after the catch but I’d be very surprised if he gets past LaFell in the depth chart in his rookie year. For this reason alone, I just don’t see us drafting Blackmon.
Rueben Randle is no polished product
Every reciever that plays with poor quarterback play in college are all under developed? This is something that drives me mad. This is the same reason Peter Warrick was drafted so high. He played with a good college quarterback and put up good numbers. Randle is a case of a big fast athlete who can do it all. If he played with a better quarterback this perspective would be totally different… that is why looking sololy at skill sets and physical traits i view him as the best in this draft…. Blackmon really don’t see that type of player
Respect your views
In my humble opinion, he has to be a little more refined with his technique and show some more consistency to be considered a polished receiver at the next level.
I agree that QB play in LSU has been horrible so I understand where you are coming from. He likely would have better stats in a different offense with a better QB play. I also understand that his physical skills warrant a high pick.
after reading some of your post now and in the past i have come to a startling conclusion
You are clinically insane. Ruben randle bpa in the first round at 8/9?? Andre johnson is arguably the best receiver in the nfl. Are you just looking at size and speed? They have that but its a loose comparison. Johnson gets separation like few I’ve ever seen, you wouldn’t bank on him not making the catch even in triple coverage. There’s nothing you could have possibly seen to draw this conclusion. Wr are a crap shoot in the draft at the best of times. If blackmom does fall to us, he is one player that could command a trade down, in which case we grab it and bolster our defence. The only way I see us drafting offence at all I’d if we think we can grab our future franchise left tackle. Those type of players can only really be grabbed in the top ten of a draft and I could understand the reasoning behind such a move. WR not so much
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by LimeyPanther on Feb 21, 2012 8:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
You are clinically insane. Ruben randle bpa in the first round at 8/9??
i meant to type the following…
In my humble opinion Ruben Randle in the 2nd round would be a jack pot for the Panthers And BPA in the first would be the better choice vice any position….my opinion
So i can see what your saying about that one comment. But however the insane part… well i am not buying into media hype. And alot of my evaluations have been right on the money.
You're one of the few who can say that.
When I first “met” you I thought you were insane, especially with your evaluation re: Cam, but it turns out you do know what you’re talking about. :-)
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Feb 21, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
No, they're my thoughts. You're just trying to steal them.
Be gone, thief.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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My thoughts exactly.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Feb 21, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
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I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
unfortunately as a wr u can only be evaluated by what you've been able to show on the field.
randle allowed himself to be put in a situation wherehis abilities werent showcased. so it truly becomes a crap shoot as to what level he is really at right now. remember the guys who have gone undrafted only to be one of the best of a generation. i guess the real question is, has the limited passing offense he was in done him justice?. only time will tell.
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by braves&panthers4ever on Feb 21, 2012 10:31 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
randle allowed himself to be put in a situation where his abilities werent showcased
Huh? He picked LSU over a few other schools because he’s from Louisiana. Are you saying it’s his fault that the QB situation sucked there, or that Les Miles played the wrong QB? Those things are out of his control. You can’t blame anything on a WR except for inability to run routes, inability to hang on to a football, and being slow. Everything else is circumstantial.
Just like with Alshon Jeffery. It’s not his fault that Stephen Garcia couldn’t stop drinking. It’s not his fault that Spurrier switched to Connor Shaw and changed the offense to a read-option based attack to take advantage of a run-first QB.
It’s not Randle’s fault that the QB couldn’t get him the ball. That kind of stuff can’t be blamed on the WR, and for you to say that he put himself in a situation where his skills weren’t showcased isn’t being fair to him as a player.
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by BW Smith on Feb 21, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i look at it like this bw....
if he desired to be one of the best wr’s in this class HE chose the wrong school. that is on him. if he wasnt confident in his ability to be one of the best then i guess it doesnt matter, he still made a good impression. but was it a true indicator of the talent he possesses. i dont think it was, but that was his mistake imo. there is nothing he could do about it but it was still his decision to go there. yes jefferson was horrible, not randles fault, but he didnt put himself in a school where he would be able to shine. that i feel is on him. but hey, just my opinion.
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by braves&panthers4ever on Feb 21, 2012 1:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
So he’s supposed to be able to predict the future when picking his school? He went to a highly touted school in the SEC that contends for the BCS Title on a yearly basis. I don’t think he chose the wrong school.
And of course, he could have picked LSU because he wanted to stay close to home. We just don’t know.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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i dont disagree with u here, its aquestion about what his motivation was forpicking lsu.
the question i have is if he wanted to be a top wr prospect, when was the last time lsu had an above average to great passing game. idk if i recall correctly or not but they werent known for their passing game at anytime in the past decade that i recall. the best i remember without researching it was when the had failmarcus russell. im just getting at if he wanted to show he was the amazing wr i think he could be, he chose the wrong school to attend.
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by braves&panthers4ever on Feb 21, 2012 1:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Good point, but I think he showed that he wanted to go somewhere that he had the best chance to win, which to me shows that he puts winning above individual accolades, which makes him even more desirable as a draft prospect.
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i agree with this whole heartedly.
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by braves&panthers4ever on Feb 21, 2012 2:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i think it comes down too
is this a reflection of his skill set or opportunity? Too me i see the skill set and i understand how even a great reciever can disappear with no one to throw it tooo him…. kinda like Steve Smith the pass to years. Its not like Smitty forgot how to play he just didn’t have someone to get him to ball…….KNOWING this dynamic of how the passing game works allows a evaluator to make a better judgement and project his skill set into situations …“what if he had a guy who could throw those passes?”.. that is all i am saying.
there is another element too this that is harder for fans to measure
so it truly becomes a crap shoot as to what level he is really at right now
How much do these guys want it? Coples could be a Hall of Famer in the making if he goes into his career truely wanting it Rocky style. But these guys get the cash and well .. are just happy to be there sometimes… so it is harder to tell.
I guess what i see is skill set and physical traits and throwing stats out too a degree..or atleast looking at situations more than production. And doing that i honestly in my gut see a better player.
Another thing is if you look back at prior drafts and read the prior scouting it is like comdy. And so it is like this to me.. what happens if i just look at the player and not the hype. That is important to establish my own opinion without becoming influenced by others.. like i do read mocks. But i try very hard not to just agree with it but to critcally think on my own… sometimes i agree… sometimes i stand alone.
I don’t mean to go against the grain just for the heck of it though lol…honestly i don’t:)
Of all the posters here, who comment on college kids, I value your observations and judgments as highly as any, Shankdiddy.
Back a year ago, when there were MANY, MANY detractors on this board of Cam’s abilities and potential, YOU were his staunchest advocate, and the one with the most incisive reasons why we should take him, and how good he could be.
Short: you speak; I listen.
Limey hasn’t been here long enough to make such statements about your evaluative skills.
He wasn't driving that Cam train alone...
But shank does his homework and I wouldn’t mind picking up Rueben in the 2nd Round. The drafts a crap shoot to a degree… we should look defense first though.
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by Caro2daheart... on Feb 21, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
by the way i use quote boxs to help the conversation not to really prove a point.. just too help the context of who i am adressing and what i am responding too
The drafts a crap shoot to a degree… we should look defense first though.
It is up too the players… if they want too be great then you could be a no name guy and come in and dominate. Sometimes a chip on your shoulder is better than a 40 yard dash time.
It is so impossible to be right all of the time at drafting. But i do know one reason it is so hard…. evaluators having a closed minded approach tooo the process. Kinda like already knowing there will be a rookie of they year level player after the 33rd pick.
ive been actively participating for a year
And a reader for at least a year more. That’s plenty of time. Nailing it on cam newton doesn’t mean that he’s gonna be right all the time.
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by LimeyPanther on Feb 21, 2012 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think the comment right above is me admitting that
It is all a crap shot. My only dog in this entire race is too point out that popular media oppinion is almost always wrong… IE the 3rd best reciever being the actural best or the 4th guy at another postion turning out to be the best…or the 55 best player turning out to be a stud. ….
With all of that being said alot of my perspectives speak too this. By using my own eyes… to be honest the ONLY football mind i almost always agree with is greg cosell
fair enough
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by LimeyPanther on Feb 21, 2012 4:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I've yet to see anything to suggest Randle is that fast.
Could you show us something referencing Randle’s supposed 4.3 speed?
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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 21, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
Your right only thing offical is refering too his speed being around 4.5
Rumor mill from messege boards with no facts sorry. He is listed from 4.57 too 4.44 everywhere i look that has a offical time.
Then you're basing a big part of your argument on something that's got no factual basis.
Nowhere is it reported that he’s supposed to run CLOSE to a 4.3-40.
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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 21, 2012 9:40 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
... ya i am basically saying "your right"
… is it ok for me to consider what you said and change my tune slightly? I think that is a sign of a objective person :)
I still think Randle is really good
I don't think a 6'4" receiver needs to run a 4.3 40 at the combine.
As long as he doesn’t run a 4.6 or slower, he should be fine because of his size.
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I don't either
But there’s a big difference in a 4.3 and a 4.5, regardless of size. If Randle had 4.3 speed at his size and with his skillset, he’d be a consensus top-10 pick.
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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 21, 2012 9:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I honestly just looked at this story seconds ago
But alot of media and draft minds are starting to look at Randle
I agree with NFP that Blackmon is no A.J. Green
But IMO he’s easily better (and more productive) than Julio Jones.
Julio Jones has two things to sell: blazing speed and size/blocking ability. But those two quite good attributes are balanced out (or even overcome IMO) but his negative attributes of injury-prone and hands-of-stone. He’ll drop some amazingly easy passes and at a much higher rate than league average. And he’ll always miss a few games.
Blackmon IMO is a much more polished NFL-ready receiver than Julio Jones. Is he as fast? Not nearly… but he’s a better RECEIVER. And if the job of a WR in the NFL is to get open and catch passes, then Blackmon >>>>>>> Jones in a rout.
Julio Jones
Look how he finished the season. He had a td and around a 100 yards his last 6 games. As much as i hate to say it i don’t think lack of production is going to be a fault of his in upcoming seasons.
Julio Jones was misjudged too
Before last year’s draft, no one expected Jones to outrun A.J Green. Personally I see a lot of speed in Blackmon. Guess we’ll find out soon enough.
Reminds me a lot of Tory Holt
Great Hands, Good Vertical, runs routes almost to the dime, great on field work ethic, will BLOCK and can shrug off any CB lined up against him. Only knock on Holt is the same against Blackmon, and that was elite speed. If available I think you do anything and everything to pair him with Cam. Would be a tremendous pick up.
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I like that comparrison
comparing him to a guy playing now….I would compare Blackmon to Hakeem Nicks. Both are 6’1" and 215ish. They are not blazing fast, but they are just play makers.
I wouldn't be upset
I know our defense needs pieces but a top notch receiver to grow with Cam would hardly be a bad plan B. Steve Smith is on the back end of his career. Getting better at WR should alleviate some pressure from Smitty and hopefully prolong his career. Regardless of how you feel about the upside of any other WR not named Steve Smith on the roster I don’t feel they showed enough to pass on a stud. If we got Hakeem Nicks with 9 pick i’d be happy.
That said, I don’t think Blackmon is there when we pick.
Hurney has a terrible track record on drafting WR as well. He hits on 1st round picks so maybe this would change that. I feel like one pick used correctly is better than 2 mid round picks spent on WR in 2013 and then more in 2014 in the seemingly endless quest to draft a WR that sticks.
I agree that I dont think Blackmon will be there when we pick
But if he is then I would pick him unless Claiborne is there as well
I think he looked great and would be a good pick
But he seemed to run to close to the sideline a lot. He was consantly running right on the sideline and on a few occasions stepped out on his own. They would have to coach him up on running the sidline and staying inbounds. That sounds like a minor thing but if you think about it, a man running 6 inches off the sidelin doesn’t have the ability to cut back accross the field because when he makes his move, he steps out of bounds. Also, if he would stay about a yard inbounds, that would give him the space to absorb a hit and still get a few more yards downfiled before going out. I guess this may be a stupid thing to nitpick about and he is a great reciever, but I think the scouts and coaches will be looking at everything he does on every play and that would be some that stood out to me as a coachable problem.
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
I wouldn't be 100% opposed to drafting Blackmon.
After all if he projects as a Dez Bryant type then we could certainly do a whole lot worse, but I question how much better he is than Jeffery, or Floyd, or Sanu.
I think that’s a problem throughout this draft. Outside of just a few prospects, I don’t see that big of a gap between a lot of the first and second round prospects.
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That's what I've been thinking. Watching Sanu and Floyd, I don't see much of a difference.
Except, one guy has been given a mid 1st round pick grade, and the other an early 2nd/late 1st.
I don't want to draft Michael Brockers or Devon Still. Chris Kreider is the future.
by Son of a Newton on Feb 21, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
i was thinking the same thing
Except, one guy has been given a mid 1st round pick grade, and the other an early 2nd/late 1st
Too me i think both of these guys are really good “catch in traffic” type of guys. And that really helps to have that because it bails quarterbacks out of really bad throws.
Reminds me a lot of a polished Hakeem Nicks coming out.
Similar size, good over the middle, strong hands and solid run after the catch. I’d love to see Cam throwing to him on Sundays. I would just have to change the channel when the defense was on the field.
I agree with you a 100%
I have been saying this for a while now
Very good comparison, not sure how I missed that. Nicks is a very good comparison.
Reminds me of a cross between Nicks and Michael Crabtree.
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May be hypocritical of me, but if he's there - pull the trigger, hell pull it twice double-tap style
LOVE this guy. Great player and even a better person.
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agreed
did you see that little special they did on him and that little girl with cancer (I believe) he plays for? She is why he wears all those wrist bands
Yeah, saw that one too - great guy
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Suddenly
Its seems to be a crap shoot on who we take in round one. One thing is definitely certain, having Blackmon in the offense makes us more dangerous but we still need a defense to help put away games.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Feb 21, 2012 9:20 AM EST reply actions
I wouldn't be too disappointed if they take Blackmon,
but I still think defense is the way to go. I saw people talking about 1 defense player a couple months ago and said he is the best at his position and will be a starter for the team right away, but that the 8/9 pick is too early to take him. I say take him anyway if he helps our defense. A solid player on defense could make a world of difference. So what if we take him 3 spots sooner than his draft worth, he could turn out to be the best pick compared to some1 else we take a chance on and drafting & they fail. I don’t know a whole lot about players draft values, but to me getting a sure thing on our defense is better than taking a chance even if we over pay(draft) a little bit.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
I say take him anyway if he helps our defense. A solid player on defense could make a world of difference. So what if we take him 3 spots sooner than his draft worth, he could turn out to be the best pick compared to some1 else we take a chance on and drafting & they fail. I don’t know a whole lot about players draft values, but to me getting a sure thing on our defense is better than taking a chance even if we over pay(draft) a little bit.
I agree. I don’t consider it a big deal if you reach 5-ish spots to get someone that you want, provided you’re confident they will make a positive impact right away. If we take someone at 8/9 that was slated to go in the 15/16 range, I would be okay with that.
I think we can all be confident in knowing that Hurney and Rivera are going to take the player they feel will make the biggest impact on the Panthers, regardless of position.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Tyson Alualu is an excellent example of this, btw
He was considered a bit of a reach but has been a very very good player for the Jags.
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Thanks. I had an example but couldn't remember his name.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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This just really shows you how evolutionary the draft process is...
Panther Train was flammed for months for being on the Blackmon bandwagon, somewhat deservedly so due to style. Admittedly I was very against taking a WR in the first round, but this is a fluid process and my views have changed over time. Now we got pundits saying Clairborne or Blackmon could actually fall to us, which I would find amazing! The ride is fun to see where it all ends up. I’m sure OT and OLB will be a flavor a some point as well before this thing is over with. FWIW, my abbv draft board would be something like:
Clairborne
Blackmon
Couples
Kirkpatrick
Reiff
Ingram
Brown
Brockers
Baron
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by carolinapillpusher on Feb 21, 2012 10:20 AM EST reply actions
Panther Train was flamed for months for being on the Blackmon bandwagon
He was mostly flamed for flip flopping every three days on who he wanted to pick. Had he stuck with Blackmon the whole time, most of the flaming would have gone away.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
True
I did say it was “somewhat deservedly so due to his style”, which also included that we needed to lose to get him (wow). Its different now that Blackmon could fall to us.
"You know the new iPhone? It’s faster, more powerful and smarter. It’s revolutionary. Why can’t the quarterback be like that? Why can’t you be a big, tall, fast, quick, strong, smart, mobile quarterback who’s unstoppable?"
-Cam Newton
by carolinapillpusher on Feb 21, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it's totally different now.
If he is there at 8/9 I wouldn’t have a problem with taking him.
He was flamed a lot for the “we should lose to get him #2 overall” bit though, you’re definitely right about that. LOL
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Just to add a note,
He picked a lot of players, most of will eventually be a candidate. When you pick 5 players in the top of their positions, they will all probably be looked at.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
That was why he got flamed for it
It wasn’t that he wanted Blackmon, it’s that he wanted us to tank to get him that had everybody so aggravated.
He was flamed not for wanting Blackmon
But for flip flopping every two hours and not shutting up about it.
"What do you want to say to those critics now?"
"Just sit back and watch the show." -Cam Newton
I think he was flamed more for saying we should tank games to get Blackmon
and for saying we should take him with the 2nd pick.
Pick 8/9 is a totally different animal than pick 2 in this draft.
If we were at pick 2, I’d still be wanting Kalil.
Kalil might just fall, though.
Apparently, some teams are looking long and hard at some of the other offensive tackles, and they might just wind up passing Kalil to get them instead. Makes you wonder what would happen if Kalil actually did manage to fall to us.
IF Kalil fell to us, I would sprint to Charlotte and beat Hurney about the head and shoulder until he
uttered threats to the runner to go NOW to the podium and make him the pick.
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by keebler elf on Feb 21, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
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I like the part when he bounces the ball between his legs like a basketball
It just looks cool. This kid has got major swagger!
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
by BlackCatFan on Feb 21, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Wow this would be idiotic...
He provides almost no benefits over Gettis/lafell.. At least Alshon has the height to immediately be a RZ threat, Blackmon’s skillset does not separate him from our current WR’s
In college, he had a polished 28 year old QB and had the benefit of being in an extreme passing spread attack against porous big 12 defenses..
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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT
by MikeTrain on Feb 21, 2012 10:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions
In college, he had a polished 28 year old QB and had the benefit of being in an extreme passing spread attack against porous big 12 defenses.
Anyone else know this was coming? He didn’t play in the SEC, therefore he is worthless. NEXT!
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by BW Smith on Feb 21, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This
Anyone else know this was coming? He didn’t play in the SEC, therefore he is worthless. NEXT!
Is part of the reason why I don’t follow SEC sports, or believe half the garbage paraphernalia that comes out about most of the players form that league. Are they good college kids? Most of the time. Will it translate to NFL standard? About as likely as the D-1AA kids making it too.
Like I said above, I don’t think the common fan or your typical ESPN commentor have any clue about talent, player ability, or the tangibles that needed to even play the sport, much less at the professional level.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
It sickens me too, and I root for a team in the SEC.
Sure, I’m a diehard Gamecock fan, but I’m not going to say that “Player A is ten times better than Player B because Player A played for an SEC team and Player B played for a Big 10 team”…that’s asinine. It’s about the player as an individual, not about the team, and certainly not about the conference.
Now, is the SEC the toughest conference in the NCAA? Yes, by far. But, you can’t discount players from other conferences just because of that fact. To do so would be stupid, and it would cause you to miss out on guys like Jonathan Stewart (Pac 12), DeAngelo Williams (C-USA), Steve Smith (WAC), Muhsin Muhammad (Big 10), Jordan Gross (WAC), Jon Beason (ACC)…the list goes on and on.
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Clearly...
Teh Jefferyz is the only one for us!
Teh Jefferyz had to play with teh Garcia!
Teh Jeffereyz haz no QBs!
Teh Jefferyz is TEH GREATESTS EVAR!
I think it's funny that for all the "greatness" in the SEC...
The ACC leads in Pro Bowlers by a significantly large margin. It’s not even close.
The difference is coaching.
Maybe it’s the weather, but the premier coaches look at the SEC first.
"Puttin' DB's to sleep since '86-'87."
FIFY
The difference is coaching money. :-)
SEC schools have tons and tons of cash to throw at coaching. Most ACC schools can’t match that amount of money.
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
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Yes, well, for whatever the reasons, the SEC gets the premier coaches.
Most ACC schools just refuse to sell their souls to the devil and hire the John Calipari equivalent of a football coach.
"Puttin' DB's to sleep since '86-'87."
Few things I detest more than Kentucky basketball
I’d happily pull for Duke before I’d even consider rooting for Kentucky…and that is coming from a Carolina fan.
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I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
Wow
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Them's fightin' words on tobacco road.
What you say:
I’m a Carolina fan, but I’d pull for Duke before Kentucky.
What everyone would hear:
I’m a Carolina fan, but I’d pull for Duke blah blah blah.
Rage forms. Violence ensues.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I despise Duke, but I respect them
Nothing lower than Kentucky basketball.
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
Well...
I’d argue that Dallas Cowboys football and Yankees baseball are lower, but I get what you’re saying. :-)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Agree 1000%
My two favorite teams on Sunday are the Panthers(obviously) and whoever is playing the Cowboys, unless it’s the redskins and then I hope an act of God stops the game so nobody can win.
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
Yeah, I'm the same way.
Except instead of the Redskins it’s the rest of the NFC South.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
who is this duke of which you speak?
Sounds like a team I could get behind
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by LimeyPanther on Feb 21, 2012 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
2010 NCAA Champions?
Falsely accused of sexual assault by a habitual felon and now convicted/jailed murderer?
Yeah, there’s that.
"Puttin' DB's to sleep since '86-'87."
FIFY
SEC schools have tons and tons of cash to throw at coaching and players. Most ACC schools can’t match that amount of money.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
LOL
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+1
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As much as I like Lafell, Blackmon would likely be a better pro.
As much as I like Gettis, we can’t be all in on him coming off an injury
After Smitty, we still don’t have a guy who could take things over. It may or may not be Gettis.
As of now we are a Smitty injury away from being in trouble again, not to mention he is at the tail end of his career. Though its not a priority, if the highest rated WR falls to you in the draft, I say take him. A future receiving corps of Blackmon, Gettis, and Lafell with Cam has solid potential. With that said, I like Jeffrey, and would still take him in a heartbeat if he fell to us in the second. I just like Blackmon more.
"You know the new iPhone? It’s faster, more powerful and smarter. It’s revolutionary. Why can’t the quarterback be like that? Why can’t you be a big, tall, fast, quick, strong, smart, mobile quarterback who’s unstoppable?"
-Cam Newton
by carolinapillpusher on Feb 21, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
We don't know.
It’s possible that Gettis doesn’t come back all the way, and we need to find an eventual replacement for Smith.
Lafell is a great number 2, but I don’t see a lot to indicate that he’ll be able to eventually replace Smith.
TWSS
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
If Blackmon falls to us
We should take him without hesitation. I just don’t see it happening.
"What do you want to say to those critics now?"
"Just sit back and watch the show." -Cam Newton
+1
Unlikely, but If it happens I’m all in
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by bird2jasun on Feb 21, 2012 10:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Not really interested
I am just not convinced that he is better than Gettis and LaFell. He’s certainly slower and smaller than Gettis, and also smaller than LaFell. I’m at a position where I’m just gonna trust the FO to do right.
I tend to agree.
He is very strong, and seems to run angry—two characteristics I really like in a WR—but our defense was just so bad.
We either have to spend the first pick on defense, or we have to try and make some serious moves in free agency. Like, I’m not sure the casual observer understands just how bad our defense was, and how much they will continue to prohibit us from winning if we don’t get it fixed.
"Puttin' DB's to sleep since '86-'87."
I agree
It’s hard to compare players from different positions, but is Blackmon really gonna be that much more of a factor for us than Reiff, Brockers or DeCastro, or whoever you think can play those positions better. Then if you look at the best players at each position, it’s easier to find a star receiver in later rounds than a stud DT or OL. But if the coaches really think he’s a better fit than one of the top 3 DTs, I guess I can trust in that. However, if he’s available at 9, maybe someone will trade up for him.
by usana_gaines on Feb 21, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Gettis and Lafell
So you think there is no WR in this draft that is a improvement over what we have? 600 yards and 3 td’s last season from Lafell is such a upward trend from 2010 that you think we are set at WR? As far as Gettis goes I think that we don’t know enough to put all our eggs in that basket.
Besides Steve Smith we have never found a WR in ANY round much less a star receiver in later rounds.
If Blackmon lives up to expectations he would be a year one impact player of a higher degree than Reiff, Brockers or DeCastro .
In the end it’s not going to matter because someone will take him in the top 5.
"Puttin' DB's to sleep since '86-'87."
Sometimes a pedigree (draft status) will simply warrant a player more opportunities to succeed
I’m all for drafting defense or O-line, but I think Blackmon is a pretty special player and we’d be lucky to have him.
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I don't disagree.
Where I do differ is:
How much will ‘player X’ positively affect the Panthers? Blackmon’s productivity could be equaled by a combination of solid players in Olsen, LaFell and Gettis.
We don’t have the luxury of having those solid players at DT, CB, or S.
"Puttin' DB's to sleep since '86-'87."
Especially with our scheme, I'd agree
Just to add to your…something to consider. Hopefully we may not be in the Top 10 in the draft in a long time (knock on wood). That’s typically where one finds game changing D-line or decade starters on the O-line…hard to find those positions elsewhere…
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Yup.
Certainly at DT and OT.
It happens. Just not nearly as often as at other positions.
"Puttin' DB's to sleep since '86-'87."
It happens. Just not nearly as often as at other positions.
TWSS
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by BW Smith on Feb 21, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That was mahvelous, simply mahvelous.
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If he falls to us i’m all for it
by Hassan Qualeek Spivey on Feb 21, 2012 12:15 PM EST reply actions
He's one of those guys...
…like Claiborne and Kalil. If he is there when we pick, we take him.
Wo cares about top end speed?
Larry Fitzgerald.
That’s all
CAM....CAAAAAAAAM
by CamNewtonSBMVP on Feb 21, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
There are about 20 or 30 other examples of 1st round busts with size and no speed to counter that
Fitzgerald is the exception, not the rule.
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A list of top 10 picked WRs.
2001: David Terell, Koren Robinson
2002:None
2003:Charles Rodgers, Andre Johnson
2004: Larry Fitzgerald, Roy Williams, Reggie Williams
2005: Braylon Edwards, Troy Williamson, Mike Williams
2006:None
2007: Calvin Johnson, Ted Ginn Jr.
2008:None
2009:Darius Hayward-Bey, Michael Crabtree
2010: None
2011: A.J. Green, Julio Jones
Of this list, I would say that 9 have not lived up to top 10 potential, 3 have lived up to the potential, and the other 4, I think need more time to tell(although it looks as if it may be 2 and 2 at an early glance).
How many of them ran crisp routes as Blackmon?
CAM....CAAAAAAAAM
by CamNewtonSBMVP on Feb 22, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
To you, and to ace
He is Justin Blackmon. He is not Larry Fitzgerald, and he’s not Dwayne Jarrett.
There are examples of WRs with poor measurables succeeding, and examples of WRs with good measurables failing. Blackmon has shown great route running and has demonstrated the ability to get open consistently. On top of that, he appears to be very good at getting yards after the catch.
No player’s successes/failures have an impact on what Blackmon will do in the NFL, because Blackmon is a different player.
Oh I know...
I wasn’t lumping Blackmon with Jarret. I was merely saying that there are plenty of examples for either case. My point is actually the same as yours: each player needs to be judged based on their own merits and potential, not in reference to another player.
Something to be said about receivers as well
Over 50% of the players who had over 1,000 yards receiving in 2011 were drafted in the 3rd or after the 3rd round.
It just goes to show that there will almost certainly be some players who are gamers who don’t show up on most scouting reports.
Not in the same Class as AJ Green or Julio Jones? SERIOUSLY?
Had Justin Blackmon came out after his sophomore season, last year, he would’ve been the top reciever in the draft no question. J. Blackmon is the most dominant college WR I’ve seen in the past decade.
by Ramdeezy64 on Feb 21, 2012 9:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If he can run routes on a dime and catch the darn ball...
I could care less about “elite” speed.
I am a proud supporter of troll hunting.
I watched some Panthers highlights and realized our WRs can't catch with their hands
With the exception of Smitty and LaFell. Olsen gets open but when the catch is contested he won’t make the catch most of the time. Shockey is alright but who knows if he’ll be back next year. Gettis had the problem of catching with his body too much coming out of college and although hes only had one season under his belt we can’t assume hes overcome that problem
Really wouldn’t mind taking a WR this draft.
CAM....CAAAAAAAAM
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