Mocking In The Free World: NFP Mock- The Result
It's been a whirlwind three days but I closed out the Carolina Panthers' 2012 draft this afternoon in the NFP Mock Draft I've been speaking about. The mock is currently still going, and in the middle of the 5th round, but for all intents and purposes I'm out of picks and resting from here on out. That part is going to take some explaining. So, if you missed the first and second installments you can read them here, and over here respectively. Otherwise I now bring you to the conclusion of my mock draft odyssey.
I entered the day with a long wait. Having traded away my 4th round pick on day one I was stuck languishing as my BPA list was getting picked apart player by player throughout the forth round. At this point I'd pretty much singled out the 10-15 best GMs and watched them consistently make great picks. The list of 'steals' was quickly shrinking and around the 20th pick in the 4th round I decided to make my first trade of the day:
Panthers trade their 6th (170) and 7th (201) round pick, plus a 2013 6th round pick
Saints trade their 5th round pick (141)
My reasoning here was simple. At this juncture I feel we have enough 6th and 7th round guys populating the roster and waiting in the wings. Through trades I had already added several players, and quite frankly I saw the depth chart getting very crowded. So rather than add another two bodies I thought it would be more prudent to get a better caliber of player and try to find a potential upgrade. Ultimately this trade set up another one later in the day, and possibly the move I'm most proud of in the entire draft.
More after the jump
I had two BPA OL targets sitting in my sights around the mid-20's, Jeff Allen of Illinois and Tony Bergstrom of Utah- alas both were taken late in the 4th round. Thankfully though another target who was right around my BPA was there.
8(136) - Carolina (6-10) - Terrell Manning,OLB, NC State
I copped some flack yesterday for not selecting Lavonte David of Nebraska with one of my picks, and I cited my reasoning was that I felt he was a good player, but not right for our system as a starting OLB, and I still feel that way. However, I believe Manning (who is leaving school too early) could be every bit as talented as David with a year of seasoning and he has room to bulk up his 6'3" frame, just like Thomas Davis did.
Out of the gate he adds speed and ability to special teams, and can be a good safety net for Thomas Davis in case he can't recover.
At this point I has acquired the #141 pick and had about 45 minutes to prepare myself for what I was going to do. I liked Joe Looney, a strong guard out of Wake Forest who would have added another body to the OL, but following my mantra of adding higher level talent I decided to pursue a trade. All day Oakland had been looking to get more picks. Due to cap ramifications the GM was seeing the team getting cut in swaths to get under the cap, and without any real draft picks until the 4th round (1 and 2 going to Cincy, 3 going to Terelle Pyror and 5 going to New England) I thought I could make a deal.
The Raiders' GM wanted the 5th round pick I still had for a future 4th rounder, but I had other ideas. We barted for a little and then pulled the trigger.
Panthers trade their previously acquired 5th round pick (141), 2013 5th round pick, 2013 7th round pick and QB Jimmy Clausen
Raiders trade OT Joseph Barksdale
The plan to add depth to the OL went better than I could have ever imagined, and I think I landed a starting RT for my troubles. In terms of where I would rate Barksdale in this class I would have had him as a 2nd round pick, and much better as a prospect than Mitchell Schwartz who the Falcons took in the 2nd round. The irony is that the Raiders would have probably taken Atlanta's 3rd round pick for Barksdale...but I guess they never asked.
This is what Mocking The Draft said about him last year:
In the fight for the top offensive tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, it is astonishing that Joseph Barksdale's name does not come up more often. Barksdale is a better athlete than he is given credit for at the left tackle position. In addition his technique is the best I have seen out of any tackle in this draft class. He gets terrific knee bend and keeps his pads low when blocking. Barskdale also has long arms and uses them to his advantage with ideal arm extension in his blocks. His ability to get to the next level, and be isolated one on one are both top notch. Joseph Barksdale has the size and strength of an ideal left tackle prospect.
I'm not sure I'm looking at him to play LT right now, but I definitely want to plug him in at RT immediately where his skill as a pass blocker can help keep Cam protected. While not as stout in the run game as Jeff Otah he's an infinitely better pass blocker which will pay dividends immediately.
Also, Jimmy Clausen was the kicker in this deal- and I was planning to cut him anyway. I'm perfectly happy to send Jimmy back to California where he can try to restart his career and maybe even get a shot at starting when Carson Palmer is done.
So... where does this all leave us?
After finishing a long three days of drafting James Hurney pours himself a glass of scotch and starts penciling in his projected 2012 depth chart based on the moves he made, and moves he plans to make. This is what he ended up with.
Offense
QB: Cam Newton/ Derek Anderson/ Armanti Edwards
RB: DeAngelo Williams/ Jonathan Stewart/ Mike Goodson/ Josh Vaughan
FB: Richie Brockel
TE: Greg Olsen/ Gary Barnidge
WR: Steve Smith/ Brandon LaFell/ Armanti Edwards
LT: Jordan Gross/ Garry Williams
LG: Travelle Wharton/ Mackenzy Bernardeau
C: Ryan Kalil
RG: Jeff Otah/ Geoff Schwartz
RT: Joseph Barksdale/ Byron Bell
WR: Alshon Jeffrey/ David Gettis/ Kealoha Pilares
Defense
DE: Cam Johnson/ Greg Hardy/ Antwan Applewhite
DT: Brandon Thompson/ Terrell McClain/ Andre Neblett
DT: Ron Edwards/ Sione Fua/ Jason Shirley
DE: Charles Johnson/ Thomas Keiser
OLB: James Anderson/ Omar Gaither
MLB: Jon Beason/ Thomas Williams
OLB: Thomas Davis/ Jordan Senn/ Terrell Manning
CB1: Chris Gamble/ Darius Butler/ Captain Munnerlyn
SS: Charles Godfrey
FS: George Iloka
CB2: Kyle Wilson/ Brandon Hogan
Specialists
K: Olindo Mare
P: Jason Baker
LS: J.J. Jansen
KR: Kealoha Pilares
PR: Armanti Edwards
So Panthers fans... what do you think?
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Love it, but see hardy starting
"What up? We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion. Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things." Again, NOTHING SEXUAL
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you guys are like a bunch of pirahnas
by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT
by MikeTrain on Feb 17, 2012 5:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Pretty decent trade for Barksdale (in terms of value at least)
and Manning was a good pick. has potential at Will and had good value in the 5th.
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
Overall pretty good
i would rather have Zack Brown and Dwight Jones/Tommy Streeter than Jeffrey and Manning. But i can live with how this came out
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
What about adding Goodson into the mix
And aquire Marcel “match up night” Reese a FB/HB to compete with Brockel. We haven’t had a decent FB since Hoover was released
Not bad
Can’t say I’d feel comfortable giving away the first-round pick – I’d prefer to trade back a bit and get a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Depth can be crucial when building a contender. I’d focus on defense in the first round, a WR in the second and a punter in the 6th round. In all the rest – defense, defense defense. Grabbing some more guys for the d-line and backfield is a must.
I'd say A, you addressed our needs, and received some pretty good players.
Your only blunder was trading Jimmy... He is our future...
I don't want to draft Michael Brockers or Devon Still. Kreider is the future.
by Son of a Newton on Feb 17, 2012 6:07 PM EST reply actions
Good Draft
I would prefer Munnerlyn cut before Martin. Martin has a better upside and it is possible that his ills can be helped by the new DB coach.
by TXPanther on Feb 17, 2012 6:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Quality point.
Munnerlyn is a special teams ace and even has return ability.
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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 17, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Cut Josh Vaughn to keep Martin, which is what they would do anyway. NO way in hell we'd go into a season with only 2 safeties on deck. Plus Vaughn is meh and nobody would steal him from us so we could just put him back on the practice squad like always
by daviddemont on Feb 17, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
This team needs an upgrade in multiple positions and an undersize gunner who routinely gets beat isn’t what is needed. It was an oversight, but I don’t see how anyone would want to keep Munnerlyn over Martin or even keep Munnerlyn at all. We need talent, not a team filled with specialists.
by TXPanther on Feb 18, 2012 9:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
An undersized gunner?!
I didn’t realise there was a prototypical size for ST gunners.
It’s all about production – and Munnerlyn produces on STs.
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lol
+1
I don't want to draft Michael Brockers or Devon Still. Kreider is the future.
by Son of a Newton on Feb 18, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Heh, an undersized CB that is also a gunner (shouldn’t have been difficult to understand the gist, I guess you think “gunners” get beat in coverage or something). I am fine if he is the 4th or 5th CB and fills a spot for special teams but ideally, he should not be on the team.
by TXPanther on Feb 18, 2012 1:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Somebody has to be a gunner
And Munnerlyn is a monster at it, and he’d be a pretty good nickel CB, and he can also return kicks if needed. I think he’s perfectly fine being on the team.
Well it was difficult to understand the gist
so there’s that…
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Feb 18, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Munnerlyn is already a pretty good CB.
Why would we ever cut him?
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by Panthers FTW on Feb 18, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
by TXPanther on Feb 18, 2012 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Check out his numbers from the year before in the slot.
He’s a solid to excellent nickel.
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by Flowing Willow on Feb 18, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
i dont have access to the numbers and what kind of coverage he was playing at the nickle. being our scheme was different i wonder how much more zone he was in in 2010.
he is quick to react and fast enough to make up ground in the zone but his size makes him very vulnerable in man coverage. i dont think he will ever stop taller wr’s from getting the ball but he excells in bringing guys down after he gets there. hence his higher effectiveness in zone imho.
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by braves&panthers4ever on Feb 19, 2012 12:40 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS SIZE.
It’s because he’s not a very athletic CB.
If he was 6’2" (apparently the ideal height for a CB according to you guys) he’d still struggle in coverage with his athleticism.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
He's stiff in coverage, not un-athletic.
The more I watch, the more I see a safety.
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A
I really like this draft. Our Cornerback, Wide Receiver, Defensive Line, Safety, and Tackle problems were all significantly upgraded plus an OLB with good upside. I would take this draft.
by JStewart28 on Feb 17, 2012 6:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
im assuming u accidentally left off martin as a backup safety?
im also dissapointed to see turnstile still anywhere near my team. did u cut hangartner or just forget him? if u cut him who do we have to back up center? i really like being able to plug in the new rt and still have otahs run blocking on the line.
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by braves&panthers4ever on Feb 17, 2012 6:09 PM EST via Android app reply actions
overall i like the pick ups, i just wish we could have gotten baker replaced as well.
do u think u could have gotten a 6th or 7th out of goodson to be able to pick up the p out of georgia or another p?
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by braves&panthers4ever on Feb 17, 2012 6:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
overall i like the pick ups, i just wish we could have gotten baker replaced as well.
do u think u could have gotten a 6th or 7th out of goodson to be able to pick up the p out of georgia or another p?
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by braves&panthers4ever on Feb 17, 2012 6:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hey I was looking at this mock draft, and it had Alshon Jeffery going in the second round. If he did make it to our second pick, I would pounce on it. What do you guys think. We could still get a defense guy with our first pick.
by ( CAROLINA ) on Feb 17, 2012 7:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Okay, I'm nit-picking here, but it will be interesting to see whether Demario Davis or Terrell Manning end up as the better OLB.
That said, I agree that the trade to Oakland for Barksdale was a thing of beauty. Like taking candy from a baby…
If the draft were to go like this, we’ll be set. Just need to pick up a cheap scat back and punter in FA/UDFA. I wonder what the market will be like for Steve Slaton??
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Not bad, James
Here’s what I like: Thompson, Iloka, and Manning
Here’s what I didn’t like: Jeffrey (I see bust all over this one), trading multiple picks next year, especially for a RT when we have Otah, Schwartz, and Bell, who can all play the position. Would rather invest in Hangartner. Not picking Bobby Wagner up instead of Jeffrey to bolster front 7 in D (unless he was already gone. I haven’t seen the entire draft). LB was our thinnest position last year and Beast and Davis are question marks and Connor is gone. Think we need a higher round LB.
Great fun, though. Thanks for sharing.
Here's the problem with RT.
Do we really want to be in a situation again like we have pretty much every year since drafting Otah? That is, losing him to IR for whatever reason fairly early on each year? I don’t like that prospect. Nor do I really like Bell being the replacement — he has heart, I’ll grant you that, but his penalties and inability to hold the line made him the literal weak link in our OL; had it not been for Cam’s athleticism, we’d have had some serious problems. As for Schwartz, I admit I’m not entirely certain how long he’s been in the league, but even so, he was out the entire year as well. Honestly, I think we have to consider Otah’s replacement, because if he has another season like the others, I don’t see Carolina re-signing him when it comes to his potential free agency.
I’m not fond of trading the picks either, but to quote our former HC… it is what it is.
We didn't lose him on 2008 when we went to the NFC divisional rounds in the playoffs. He was a beast and just shows how when he's healthy none of our backups even compare
by daviddemont on Feb 17, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
And aside from that?
He’s been a wildly inconsistent presence on the field. When he’s there, he’s great. But when he’s not there has likely, at this point, outnumbered the games he has played, and continuing to hope and pray that he’ll make it through a full season given his overall history is not good.
I’d actually feel better about getting another RT, so we could do what several have suggested and move Otah to RG — that might help him out and extend his usefulness and make it a more difficult choice as to what to do with him once his contract expires after this season.
Manning is a nice pick up and consolation
from David. Love the Barksdale trade. All our needs are well filled. A grade
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by carolinapillpusher on Feb 17, 2012 7:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
A-
Only reason why this is not an A or A+ is because we didn’t get a punter in this draft. Still think drafting a punter in the later rounds needs to be a priority, because Baker just didn’t get it done this season… that and the fact he isn’t getting any younger.
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Still not sure I'm a fan of giving up what you did in the 1st round
But overall, I’m not complaining much. I’m surprised you got the Raiders “GM” to bite on Clausen though.
All in all, a little too trade happy for me (it never works out that way in reality), but the value is decent.
On the issue of drafting a punter, since several have brought it up:
There’s no Mesko or Bosher in this class… unfortunately.
Martens out of Rice is probably the best of the bunch, but realistically he’ll be a UDFA
I'm ready to gamble on a change to our kicking game
Word is the top rated punter, Cal’s Anger, will be long gone, but we could probably travel down to Athens, GA and get highly rated Kicker Walsh and Punter Butler for the 7th and a 7th Comp {although I know you can’t count a Comp in a Mock}. This clears cap space with a fresh start; besides, we still have another kicker under contract for competition.
I personally loved the trades for positioning, but I’m as scared of Jeffrey as all those who passed on him in the 1st round. I know you got a fair CB in trade but I see if I can squeeze enough draft currency out of that 2013 to take both Minnifield and Quick.
Thompson is a great pick: early mocks had us taking him in the first.
I dont want Walsh
he’s terrible, no better than Mare. Major choker. would love to get Butler though
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
I can't totally disagree with you
Walsh is unfortunately the highest rated kicker in the draft and I would rather pay 7th round rookie pay than Mare’s millions for a professional choke artist. As I said, it’s a gamble and our last UGA kicker worked out pretty well. We can dream, can’t we?
There are no stand-out kickers in this draft but I do think Philip Welch might be worth a shot as a UFA.
Isn’t it amazing that we ditched Kasay and still ended 2011 with an extra kicker specializing in kick-off’s. You know Prater’s a free agent: you don’t suppose we could steal him from Foxy, do you?
Just FYI about Prater
He was actually more inaccurate than Mare this past season.
Prater: 76.0%
Mare: 78.6%
And Prater was only 3/7 on kicks between 40 and 49 yards.
I don't like Otah at OG and you're going to need another QB, but a solid effort.
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No other Qb needed with Armanti sharing the emergency duty like he did behind Anderson this year. Clausen didn't even suit up so you know he'd have been the guy to step in if it had come to that, and like many many others have said he fits as QB for us
by daviddemont on Feb 17, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be surprised if Edwards makes the team this year. He certainly doesn't deserve to.
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If Legudu Naanee is resigned he is a possible QB
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Not a huge fan...
Not of most of it at least. I love the Iloka pick though, by far my favorite thing you did. Not a fan at all of giving up all the future picks and all that, I’m sure we’re gonna need depth next year too. I don’t like Jeffery a whole lot because I don’t think WR is that big of a need for us right now. You did address the O Line depth and CB spots, but at the same time I feel like we could have done that with our 1st and 2nd picks and not have to give up draft picks. I would have liked a trade down in the 1st to pick up an extra 2nd and/or 3rd, giving us the extra picks.
However at the same time
I saw a lot of the GMs in this thing doing downright silly things that I don’t think NFL teams would begin to consider, so at least everybody had fun! haha.
by VTPantherFan on Feb 17, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Nice draft James, I would be happy with this...and a glass of that scotch.
My only beef is burying Brandon Hogan in the second string.
As it is all fantasy anyway I imagine his two pick 6’s in game one put him ahead of Wilson by game two.
BTW any draft without Blackmon is an automatic F
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by Swamp Panther on Feb 17, 2012 8:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If Hogan's any good he'll win the nickel job.
And in today’s NFL, that pretty much makes him a starter.
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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 17, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Captain has the nickel and rightfully so.
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by Swamp Panther on Feb 17, 2012 10:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If Hogan is worth a damn, he'll beat Munnerlyn and Butler out for that spot,
I like both of them, but they’re both JAGs.
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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 17, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Not to be insensitive or anything...
But since you asked, it looks like Hurney was doing his best Rainman impersonation.
"Puttin' DB's to sleep since '86-'87."
LOL
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Your picks compared to ESPN Insider...
Also give you an A- for drafting quality players and filling needs at the same time. Thought some of you would find interest in how ESPN Insider ranked some of Dator’s draft choices:
Pick 33: WR Alshon Jeffrey, 84 grade, 44 overall rank
Pick 40: DT Brandon Thompson, 89 grade, 33 overall
Pick 47: S George IIoka, 78 grade, 63 overall
Pick 78: DE Cam Johnson, 82 grade, 51 overall
Pick 136: OLB Terrell Manning, 52 grade, not in top 100
KEY:
90-100 Rare Prospect
Player demonstrates rare abilities and can create mismatches that have an obvious impact on the game. Is a premier college player that has all the skill to take over a game and play at a championship level. He rates in the top 5 players in the nation at his position and is considered a first round draft prospect.
80-89 Outstanding Prospect
Player has abilities to create mismatches versus most opponents in the NFL. A feature player that has an impact on the outcome of the game. Cannot be shut down by a single player and plays on a consistent level week in and week out. He rates in the top 10 at his position and is considered a second round draft prospect.
50-59 Adequate Prospect
These are usually players that play at a high level in college, but lack some measurables or skills to play at that same level in the NFL. He may be a player that has a lot of developmental qualities, or could be a player that will contribute right away on special teams or in a situational capacity. He will usually rate in the second-third at his position and is considered a fifth round draft choice.
I’m happy you worked in a trade for Jimmy Clausen. Lol
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
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And it was a fleecing...
He was getting cut anyway, they should have done their homework
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by carolinapillpusher on Feb 18, 2012 2:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yup.
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D
Do we get a pick for losing Marshell in the offseason
or any late 7th round picks because I’d like bring in James Rogers there injury concerns aside is a hell of a slot receiver.
like Alshon and Iloka
I think Thompson was good value, and Cam Johnson was a decent pick, but I"m not overly excited about them. Thompson especially I see as a more expensive stopgap for DT (even though I dno’t think Brockers is the key either)
The trade to get Barksdale was very good, so I gave this draft a high B+. If either Alshon or Thompson develops into a starter then it’ll be an A
I'm really surprised you didn't trade Goodson
I think you may have added some decent mid round depth had you made the deal. Still, the draft seems solid and I think the projected roster you created would make Carolina competitive.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Feb 18, 2012 9:17 AM EST reply actions
Defense looks much much better
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Read again
WR: Alshon Jeffrey/ David Gettis/ Kealoha Pilares
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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 18, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I have to disagree about AE, I think he's got the potential to do something in this offense.
(Inserting Shameless Self Plug)
I don't want to draft Michael Brockers or Devon Still. Kreider is the future.
by Son of a Newton on Feb 18, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Jerry Richardson is going. "What is this? We cut Kasey? Is this what I'm reading in the paper? What is this?"
And Hurney is rolling his eyes. “I was so wasted last night.”
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D

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