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Mocking In The Free World: A Quick Roundup

As the draft tank slowly starts to simmer, this week I'm looking at three different looks at what the Panthers will do. Two are from Walterfootball.com, and one is from Fox Sports. I'm interested to hear from you, the community- what do you think about how these pundits view the upcoming draft:

Walter Football

Walter Cherepinsky

1-9: Dre Kirkpatick, CB- Alabama

As Walter says "The top defender on the board who makes sense is Dre Kirkpatrick, who would instantly upgrade Carolina's poor group of corners. The Panthers were dead last against aerial attacks (8.4 YPA) for a reason.". Kirkpatrick would really shore up our defense out of the gate.

2-40: Mike Adams, OT- Ohio State

This would be good insurance for Jeff Otah, and help keep Cam Newton upside. Adams has big upside, and that makes him an attractive pick.

More mocks after the jump

Star-divide

Charlie Campell

1-9: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB- Alabama

Following Walter, fellow mocker Charlie Campbell is also sending Dre K to Carolina.

2-40: Kendall Wright, WR- Baylor

Not sure I'm enamored with this pick in Wright, in who I see more Randall Cobb than Steve Smith. Sure, he'd upgrade the offense, but I feel this misses a lot of other areas.

Fox Sports

Pete Schrager

1-9: Quinton Coples, DE- UNC

I'm sure there are a lot of Coples fans out there... I'm not one of them. Personally, I see a DE who padded a lot of his stats against Duke and James Madison without a great deal of stellar play against elite teams. I know he can move all around the DL, but this early in the draft I prefer a master of one trade, than a jack of all.

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Which of the mocks do you like the best?
Walters' Dre K and Adams
474 votes
Charlies' Dre K and Wright
51 votes
Pete's Coples
14 votes

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Give me the CB, OL combo any day. Both address need and added security.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 6:24 AM EST reply actions  

I agree

Two of our biggest needs can be addressed early in the draft. I guess when it comes down to it the front office has to decide which position it values most.

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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 4, 2012 2:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

you’re the first comment on 90% of posts

by ieatcrayons on Jan 4, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

None of the above.

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by OldhamA on Jan 4, 2012 6:50 AM EST reply actions  

None of the above.

It kind of drives me crazy to see people continually “mocking” corners (especially Kirkpatrick who would be a reach at #8 or #9 IMO) for the Panthers. If we’re going defense, the best thing to do would be to solidify the defensive Front Seven. Doing that would immediately upgrade the EFFECTIVENESS of our current secondary. So going defense? Pick the best available LB, DT, or DE (in that order).

Personally, if OT Riley Reiff is sitting their at #8 or #9, he would be a much better pick than Kirkpatrick. Because there would be actual VALUE in the pick (instead of reaching) and you’d be getting a player who is IMO a future NFL star.

by tiger7_88 on Jan 4, 2012 7:37 AM EST reply actions  

Drafting Kirk at 8 or 9 isn’t a reach. He is the second best CB on the board. He is one of the best tackling corners there is and adds much needed size and skill to the secondary. Reiff and Martin both are possible choices as well. It all comes down to scouting and what the teams in front of us do. I think we wont have a clue who we are drafting until they make the pick. This staff is hard to get a read on. We had the #1 pick last year and the pick was still a mystery for a could portion of the draft lead up.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 7:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Just disagree

I’ve been watching him for 4 years in the SEC. As you pointed out, he’d be great in run support. When it comes to physical strength at the position, he brings it pretty good. So maybe he’d wind up at safety and be a fantastic player there. But, as a corner in pass coverage, he’s okay. NOT a “shut down” corner in the least.

Plus, Saban’s corners have a reputation of coming into the league and having difficulty in NFL pass coverage (see: Kareem Jackson, Houston Texans and Javier Arenas, Kansas City).

So I guess if you’re ready to spend a #8 or #9 on a cornerback that tackles well but doesn’t cover at an elite level, then Kirkpatrick would fit that bill. The guy I’d prefer out of that Bama secondary is Mark Barron, but he’s not worth a #8 or #9 pick either. But if we happen to trade down to the lower half of the 1st round and pick up more picks, he’d be one helluva pick in the lower half. I’d much rather have Barron as a value pick than Kirkpatrick as a reach (and, yes, “reach” is obviously my personal opinion from having observed him play for years).

Reiff, however, is much more likely to be a success at his position, be it left or right tackle.

by tiger7_88 on Jan 4, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Barron is overrated man

Coming from another SEC guy… Funny how you call Dre overrated yet like Barron.

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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 4, 2012 10:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Barron is certainly NOT overrated considering

That he is thought to be picked in the lower first round. Very physical and a sound tackler. I’m tired of the dive-at-the-feet-and-miss-the-tackle technique currently employed by our safeties.

by tiger7_88 on Jan 4, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

And Adams has just as good upside as reiff

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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 4, 2012 10:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

its a fairly strong o-line class

3-4 elite players depending on how much you believe in martin and his potential. But there is also strength behind these guys. If we didn’t draft an o-line with the first we could get someone worthwhile later. Which maybe bumps the argument for dre.

However, should be miss an o-lineman in the first and use our second we would almost certainly miss out on the good DT prospects. Does that make sense? For me I think reiff is actually better than martin and I don’t think he’ll be available at our pick. If we’re going o-line grab decastro and run. He’s better than martin imo. Time will tell but after the hurney presser it’s looking like we go o-line.

Again this is from me though and I know zero about college football.

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by LimeyPanther on Jan 4, 2012 1:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree here

But the same can be said about the CB position being deep in this draft.

by tiger7_88 on Jan 4, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont know too much about the other cb's

Except that guy who smokes a lot of weed. I’m hoping we get the 8th pick, maybe some teams willing to trade up at that point. I’m slowly coming round to the idea of drafting an offensive player but I still think it’ll hamper our ability to get to the playoff’s next year.

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by LimeyPanther on Jan 4, 2012 1:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The thing is...

Kirkpatrick isn’t a reach at #9, but it’s looking like the top LB, DT or DE would be.

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Jan 4, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup if we go best player available at 8/9 we are looking at OL, WR, or CB

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Its still really really really early to tell. Most mocks have Dre falling to us. Anything can happen. Some teams have to find coaches and that will influence the selection. Id be shocked if Bucs took him at #5. That seems high. I like him but not as a top 5 pick

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

The biggest drawback I see on Kirkpatrick

Is his best ability to cover is in press-man and being physical in coverage. The NFL has changed the rules so much in favor of the passing game in wide receivers, I don’t see this as a great advantage in the league anymore. It was very advantageous in the SEC where the refs let him get away with grabbing and holding all he wanted. Will the NFL refs?

by tiger7_88 on Jan 4, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

They will let hm get away with it

If he comes up with a catchy nickname and rex ryan ron rivera constantly raves about his god among men status

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by mcdonaldwr on Jan 4, 2012 9:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nice argument.

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Jan 4, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Tell that to Finnegan

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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 4, 2012 10:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

As far as Coples he is Peppers lite…Half the talent with the same lack luster attitude. Peppers used to pad his stats against bad teams as well. I say we stay away from Lazy DE’s

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 8:04 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

Melvin Ingram is better too and will be a beast at the combine…

by LeventiJ on Jan 4, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Just say NO to Coples

Would be a waste of a pick. He has shown me absolutely nothing that makes him worthy of a first round selection. Let another team pick this bust.

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by Tater596 on Jan 4, 2012 8:12 AM EST reply actions  

If I'm picking a DE at #8 I want him to be an uber athlete.

I just don’t see that from Coples. Work ethic issues aside.

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by OldhamA on Jan 4, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I like Dre, but I don't think he will be there

Basing that on a couple of things – I think the Skins will go after Flynn in a trade (assuming GB tags him so they get something out of him instead of letting him walk freely away in FA). Some mocks have them taking Barkley high; don’t see it. Anyway, that would be another team above us that might go for D instead of O with their pick. The other thing is that when things start shaking out in combines and pro days, I think his stock is unlikely to fall. Not a lot to base that on other than Bama player history. History also says it is likely that one or two of the top ten guys fall into the latter half when the harsh light of pre draft scrutiny shines on them.

I think it is based available D player on the board.

by CarvedTones on Jan 4, 2012 8:29 AM EST reply actions  

Barkley is going back to school.

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 4, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

whats the date on the mocks you are looking at? Always look for the most up to date mocks. New mocks are from this week Jan 2012

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

It was an "old" one

I just still had it stuck in my head that some were calling for the Skins to make that reach before Flynn’s millionaire audition.

by CarvedTones on Jan 4, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont think Barkely would of been a reach at 6. No QB is a reach if you did your job scouting and you believe he is a franchise QB. Say Luck goes to the Colts and RG III goes to the Browns. I think Skins taking Barkley at 6 would be fine…but he went back to school (becoming a trend…money isn’t what it used to be)

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

You must be reading old mocks.

Any mock that’s kept up-to-date has been adjusted accordingly.

As for if Barkley is officially staying in school, yes he is: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/12/22/matt-barkley-usc-nfl.ap/index.html

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 4, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely prefer Walter's

I’m kinda iffy on Kirkpatrick still, but I do really like Adams in the second.

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 4, 2012 8:31 AM EST reply actions  

Keeping it at CB…Claiborne is the obvious #1 and Dre Kirk is considered the #2 but when scouting and combines finish up Janoris Jenkins may shoot up boards. Had the kid stayed at Florida he may be the top corner in the draft. He covered some of the best while at Florida and did well in doing so. Jeffery, Green, Jones etc. Id keep a eye on him when combine and workouts roll around

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 8:42 AM EST reply actions  

I'll keep an eye on him too

I’ll just be checking out the police blotters.

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 4, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Kid got busted for Pot…we have done well with picks who got kicked out of Florida lol

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Not just pot

He’s been arrested for fighting, then fighting/resisting arrest, and then got busted with pot twice. Dude is talented, but he’s got issues.

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 4, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

It's more than that...

It’s not just a “oh he’s a college kid doing pot”….he has a PROBLEM, and his problem is he can’t stay out of trouble. He’s bad news, and I don’t think Hurney/Rivera will touch him with a 10 foot pole.

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by BW Smith on Jan 4, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t hear about the other incidents…that does raise a red flag. Kid is still crazy talented though…maybe his concerns drop him low?

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

It's a shame because he's probably the best cover corner in the entire draft class...

But he’s too “PacMan Jones” for anyone to really give him a shot before the 4th round. I hope the Panthers stay far, far away.

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by BW Smith on Jan 4, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah he has played some of the best young WR’s straight up and did well…shame. Maybe you need a little bat shit to be good lol Deon wasn’t exactly a choir boy

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think

Deion ever had to be tased because he was trying to fight the cops arresting him.

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 4, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah getting tased by the Police sounds like Pacman Syndrome. Another talented CB who just can’t keep his shit together

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 4, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Tbf the Police tase anyone these days. ;-)

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by OldhamA on Jan 4, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He'll get picked in the 1st round.

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by OldhamA on Jan 4, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

He IS the best CB in this draft.

He’s about 5’9" but he’s super athletic and aggressive so that’s not an issue. He’s also fantastic in coverage.

If I had to take a corner in the first round I’m taking him.

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by OldhamA on Jan 4, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

You gonna guarantee bail money in his contract?

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 4, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Hell it's not my money.

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by OldhamA on Jan 4, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying he's not super talented, he is

But if I HAD to pick a corner in the first round, criminal record would come into play. But that’s just my opinion.

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 4, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd say none of the above

I’d rather go somewhere other than Oline with our 2nd pick, preferably back on the defensive side of the ball.

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by SouthernPanther on Jan 4, 2012 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

Glad to see the UNC homers have come around

I’ve heard alot about this guy and one other one and when I think of the competition plus the amount of Tar Heel fans on here I’m just glad the scouting department doesn’t go off of that.

Hell, ACC

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by Swamp Panther on Jan 4, 2012 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

Go devils!

AR is really showing off

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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 4, 2012 10:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He's a very talented ball hog,

he needs to get his team involved.

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by Swamp Panther on Jan 4, 2012 9:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

…teams use my Blue Devils as stat padding and they are not the only school in the conference like that.

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by Swamp Panther on Jan 4, 2012 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

Devil's Advocate

But don’t most good players pad their stats against lesser teams? I mean if you didn’t, then you would just be another player. I think Coples is good. And I wouldn’t argue the pick, but IMO I would rather trade up for Blackmon or trade down and load up on defensive prospects.

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by lazerlayell on Jan 4, 2012 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

Yes, but

He hasn’t made much of an impact against other teams, at least in the sack column. You want players that are at their best against the best competition, not against the Charlotte School of Unwed Mothers.

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 4, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

well

I think standing out on Defense can be different than standing out on Offense. Stats are not always important if you are doing your job, containing the run, rushing the passer and forcing errors. Typically better teams have better offensive lines and QBs. Do you think if Jared Allen played Peyton Manning or Tom Brady every game that he would have had 22 sacks this season? Don’t dismiss a player because they don’t get sacks against good teams.

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by lazerlayell on Jan 4, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Not suprised that Schrager is picking Coples.

Last year Schrager released four mock drafts, and in the first three he had the Panthers taking Da’quan Bowers with the first pick. It wasn’t until his final release that he had the Panthers taking Newton, and this was only about three weeks before the draft when most everyone was convinced that the Panthers would take Newton. This guy seems to know very little, if anything, about the Carolina Panthers. He still seems to think that the Panthers biggest concern is replacing Julius Peppers. They need a better pass rush, but Coples is definitely a reach here (in my opinion), and a solid DT would help the pass rush much more than another DE.

At this point, I’d be ok with Kirkpatrick, but not thrilled. It would be nice to shore up the OL, but ideally it would be great to trade down and pick up some more quality early round picks to help fill out the defense (unless by some miracle Blackmon should fall to the Panthers).

by cj5 on Jan 4, 2012 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

Considering how TEs continuously hurt the Panthers this year...

Kirkpatrick might be a good solution. I’m not sold but I am definitely keeping an open mind to the choice.

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by GooseCreek on Jan 4, 2012 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

That used to be Davis...

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by ThePanthers! on Jan 4, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

If he comes back I think he'll be more of a run defender and blitzer.

More of a SLB. Its more contact than he get on the weak side, but I think his knee problems are more detrimental to his speed and agility than his power.

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by ERL on Jan 4, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The issue I have with that

Is that it wasn’t until Davis was switched to weak side and Anderson was switched to strong side that they both really started to excel.

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Jan 4, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Anderson is better on the strong side.

Just not sure TD can cut in on the weak side anymore. Too much running for the knee.

Regardless, I’m afraid its a non-issue…Don’t see TD making a comeback this time. Let him try, give him any and all the help he needs, but the odds are nearly insurmountable. If he can’t do it my hope is the organization lets him follow Sam Mills Jr. around to maybe get his foot in the door as a coach.

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by ERL on Jan 4, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This is pretty much how I feel about it.

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Jan 4, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of the Coples projected pick.

I’ve read many times by various analysts that Big Money had a down season, but considering he had nine sacks with little help from the DTs I wouldn’t call that a down year. And with Hardy showing improvement this season taking another DE wouldn’t fill a need. I’d rather have a good CB prospect that can help solidify the secondary and OL help to ensure (Super)Cam stays upright.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Jan 4, 2012 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

I like the first and second mocks

Coples not so much.

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by Smitty89 on Jan 4, 2012 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

I could give you a million sites...

However, Dre Kirk is the common choice throughout. A few say Coples, and a slim few say Still.

by jkp1516 on Jan 4, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I love Dre, as usual. But I also love both Kendall Wright and Adams. Adams can fill the void at RT and eventually switch over to LT once Gross decides to retire. He seems like a good, strong guy.

Kendall Wright is everything you want in a receiver and there are no really big questions about him like we had with Dwayne Jarrett when he was coming out. Like Brandon Lafell, he’s almost guaranteed to be a success at the next level. We just don’t know how good of a success. The only thing scouts will bash him for is his height. Funny, I heard the same spoken about Steve Smith.

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

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by Revshawn on Jan 4, 2012 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

What?

In no way is anyone “guaranteed success” at the next level, and IMO lafell has not succeeded as of yet either.

And I would not compare him to Stevie

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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 4, 2012 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm simply pointing out he didn't have a lot of the questions around him like we had with Dwayne Jarrett.

With him, everybody was worried about whether he had separation speed from NFL Corners. Turns out he didn’t and he had to concentrate on route running to gain separation. That’s what dragged his career down and just from a fan’s perspective of watching the news/games and seeing getting arrested for DUI’s I don’t really think that he had his mind on his career too much either.

Wright doesn’t have much for Draft Scouts to fuss at him about except for his height. Steve Smith is 5’9, Wright is 5’10. He can run a 4.3. He’s put up over 1600 yards this last season. He’s got good hands and doesn’t drop many balls. He’s got good experience being a punt and kick returner. He can catch balls over the middle and get vertical in a hurry. He’s a good prospect overall and you can make comparisons to Steve Smith the way that he plays his game. Plus he’s had 4 years of college. I’m a student in college right now and that’s sort of important to me.

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/11/7/2544107/kendall-wright-nfl-draft-prospect-notes

For Lafell, I think he’s doing great for having started in just 6 games. He’s clearly outplayed Neenee both statistically and on the field and miles away from the way he performed as a rookie. If he had started all 16 games he probably could have gone for 70 receptions. He’s already a success in my mind. The question we have to ask is if he’s good enough. If this year is any indicator we’re clearly going to focus on the pass in future years. If we draft a player like Wright it will be because we eventually want to replace Steve Smith once he retires. No one knows what he’ll want to do the year after next. It’s best we be prepared.

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

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by Revshawn on Jan 4, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree, Kendall Wright is going to be a success.

However i think his stock will shoot up and we won’t have a shot at him in the second. Plus OT is of more value to us right now than WR.

Yes I'm a dude.

by Flowing Willow on Jan 4, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Then why would we need Wright?

I agree that Lafell is successful in the time he has been given (I wouldn’t call him a complete success yet) but if you think so why do we need another WR? it isnt like we are lacking depth behind him. Naanee has improved greatly and Gettis will at worst be a fantastic #3 and deep threat.

by RicFlairOGP on Jan 5, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

You forget about Steve Smith.

With a guy like him drawing double coverages, he’s going to make the rest of our guys better. You can never have too much of a good thing. Especially at wide receiver.

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D

by Revshawn on Jan 5, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ingram > Coples

If we’re going Dline, we should go with the most versatile. Ingram played better teams, had better stats, and can play just as many if not more positions. Just because he is 4 inches shorter doesn’t mean anything. Scouts, inc. has him as the 10th rated prospect and Kiper has him at 12.

by LeventiJ on Jan 4, 2012 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

Blackmon and Jeffery

Sorry, im thinking still add weapons for Cam there is a good chance either of the two guys could be available by the time the panthers pick I say get one of them and address all other needs after you get one of these guys

by RazorbackBrave80 on Jan 4, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

Jeffery looks out of shape to me.

I mean, if you can’t get into peak physical shape when you have millions of dollars on the line I don’t know that you’d bother to get into shape once the money is in the bank.

Besides, from what I saw week 17, we need to do a better job of protecting Cam before we start trying to add weapons. After all, the effectiveness of these weapons is reliant upon good protection.

I like to think of myself as a one-man wolfpack.

by ERL on Jan 4, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah portly like mike williams but blackmon?

They say Blackmon could go as early as fifth pick overall but as much I like gettis and lafell so far they look more like possession receivers than solid #2 or 1’s. Blackmon seems like the guy if he’s there atthe time the panthers draft I think they should get him.

by RazorbackBrave80 on Jan 4, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Blackman was just a beast during his Bowl Game.

He played like a champion. Honestly if he drops to Carolina at #8 overall they’ll have a hard, hard time passing him up. The guy is absolutely too good. A legit #1. He has everything you dream of in a receiver.

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D

by Revshawn on Jan 4, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He won't last that long.

Neither will Kalil. And those two are the only offensive players I’d draft at #8 or 9.

I like to think of myself as a one-man wolfpack.

by ERL on Jan 4, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

trade up?

Do they trade up to get him and is he worth the risk if they do?

by RazorbackBrave80 on Jan 5, 2012 4:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d trade up for Kalil before I’d trade up for Blackmon. Juz being real.

I like to think of myself as a one-man wolfpack.

by ERL on Jan 5, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

But yeah, dude, Blackmon is a beast.

Andre Johnson type talent.

I like to think of myself as a one-man wolfpack.

by ERL on Jan 5, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

id take blackmon with the 8th without any hesitation

but unless he completely fucks up the combine, there’s just no way he’ll be there

by hey. on Jan 4, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I voted for Walter's draft (Dre & Adams)

It hits BPA and provides us with solid pieces for the future.

Cam Newton, when a reporter asks him who will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday: "I'll tell you Sunday."

by Son of a Newton on Jan 4, 2012 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

Voted for the first one (Dre & Adams)

But if the pick comes and you’ve got Dre and Blackmon sitting there…there’s no way you pass up Blackmon. He’s a beast. Don’t think he’ll fall that far, though.

by Carolina Tider on Jan 4, 2012 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

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