What Went Wrong With the Panthers Run Defense in 2011?
by James Dator on Jan 31, 2012 8:28 AM EST
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PrintThe Carolina Panthers' defense had two Achilles heels in 2011, which led to such a lackluster unit; the first was the lack of ability and tackling from the defensive backs, while the second was the defensive line who were unable to generate a reliable pass rush, and unable to stop the run.
It will take a few more weeks for the advanced statisticians to get us detailed metrics on each player on the defensive line, but what we know already is where the glaring weakness is in stopping the run. As it stands we have run defense stats based on where our opponents got their gains, courtesy of Football Outsiders.
Left end (ROLB reponsibility): 3.93 YPC, 10th in the NFL
Left tackle (Charles Johnson responsibility): 3.96 YPC, 13th in the NFL
Mid/Guard (NT/DT responsibility): 4.53 YPC, 31st in the NFL
Right tackle (Greg Hardy responsibility): 5.62 YPC, 32nd in the NFL
Right end (James Anderson responsibility): 5.63 YPC, 32nd in the NFL
This paints a clear picture of where the weaknesses were for the Panthers in stopping the run in 2011, and what needs to be worked on.
More after the jump
The common belief was that it was up the gut where the Panthers were getting demolished this season, however the reality was it was the right edge where Carolina really failed. In the above list I only singled out players who started over 75% of games at their position, hence the changes at DT and ROLB. Also, while it is the outside linebacker's responsibility to make a play run to the outside, it's also incumbent upon the DE to help seal the edge, and the CB to help as needed.
What we see is that Greg Hardy really let down the right side on the line on running downs. This was coupled with Anderson who was a tackling machine when players got near him, however he did not close quickly enough on running downs which routinely allowed players to get to the second level.
In terms of the mid runs we have major room to make up, 31st in the NFL is abysmal, but we'll look at that further when we can see how Terrell McClain, Sione Fua, Andre Neblett, Jason Shirley and Frank Kearse all did individually, that will happen in time.
What is very encouraging though is to see what a force Charles Johnson was on his side. Both in terms of runs directed at him, and those which came in his vicinity he was able to make plays on ball carriers. This should help allay the fears of some who feel he took a step back when looking at his sack totals.
As the offseason moves on we'll look further into this major concern for the Panthers, but I thought it would be interesting to see this initial metric on our run stopping issues and what we can do to fix them moving forward.
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Injuries/lack of talent.
Is all that needs to be said. Without Beason, Ron Edwards, Davis, and a reliable second defensive tackle, we could have seen how bad our run defense was from a mile away.
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disappointed in those numbers from Hardy
I trust James Anderson to make plays, but Hardy has to get better. He is the first line of defense off the right edge, and it seems like he has failed miserably. Hopefully, some help on the interior will make the entire group better.
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anyone noticed
How when he does something good its like… ‘COME ON THE KRACKEN!’ Or ‘UNLEASH THE KRACKEN’… When its something bad its more like… ‘Come on greg what the hell are you doing?’ Or ‘jeez hardy that was crap’.
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by LimeyPanther on Jan 31, 2012 9:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you can say that about most athletes in any sport
sports is and always will be a “what have you done for me lately” environment.
the point i was making
Is we only use his nickname when’s he’s done something good. Like he becomes this monster when he makes a big play. He’s like the hulk or jekkel/hyde
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by LimeyPanther on Jan 31, 2012 10:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's also a 2nd year player with nobody to back him up (for most of the season).
Hell they were shifting him inside on passing downs. He’s bound to be worn down. I’d also suggest he’s over compensating for the DT play and crashing too early.
Not that he’s the greatest DE in the league, but he’s a good one.
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I agree, that's why I'm disappointed
But I know the inequities in the middle are the root problem of most all of this.
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what a lot of people forget is that he had ZERO off season
most guys had a short off season but he had none, he got into a motorcycle accident right before camp started and he didnt even appear in any preseason games. His first week back at practice was our first game, and he had to go in and start right away
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I’d rather dip into FA for a run stopping DE then use that high of a draft pick on a guy like Coples…
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by Imisshooooooooov on Jan 31, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
Calais Campbell?
a 6’8 290 DE might be able to help out a little
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i think he would be cheaper than people think
he has played good, but he doesnt have top money production. I think right now he is a 5 mil per season player, of course that will never stop someone else from over paying
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I was thinking the same thing Bruce
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by Imisshooooooooov on Jan 31, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
After reding the story on Safety /Corner depth in the draft it seems like we could get help there later.
Coples in the first. DB in the second. Schwarts in the 4th if he last that long.
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I believe we are in dire need of a 3-down DE...
I just don’t believe Coples is that DE. This is a terrible draft for elite 4-3 pass rushers, so I don’t think any value is there. I think Greg Hardy is a fantastic football player and will have a role on this team, but he’s a situations 3rd down pass rusher, not an every down DE.
My concern with Coples is that whoever gets him winds up with Tyler Brayton 2.0, a wonderful run stopping DE with average pass rushing skills. I wouldn’t want to spend a top pick on him, I don’t think he’s the next Jason Pierre-Paul
After Coples Senoir Bowl performance
Unless something goes very wrong at combine or now and draft I don’t think Coples will be on board when we pick. If Coples is there at 9 he would be many draft pundits best pick available and would fill a immediate need. We need for the combine to happen to settle so many questions about value and potential.
Do we though?
I’m pretty set on what I saw from Coples: an insanely talented and extremely gifted player, but an inanely lazy football player.
He’s Julius Peppers 2.0 when it comes to attitude, but without the ceiling. He turned it on and off throughout the season as needed, and now he’s turning it back on again in the sprint to April. I just hope we’re not the ones who get suckered in.
This is pretty much what I see when I look at Coples.
He’s a less talented Julius Peppers.
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I agree
What about Mercilus? I know its kind of high for him and his stats are mainly from one year, but he has some nice stats.
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by Panthster on Feb 1, 2012 9:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He does have nice stats.
But, as you said, it’s only one year’s worth of production. Can he play at that statistical level in the NFL? Can he produce similar results in the NFL? To me, there are too many questions there when we need to hit on this pick in order to continue the rebuilding that’s already in process. We can’t afford to miss.
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I feel confident that our staff will put more merit in Coples college game tape....
than they will in his Senior Bowl or combine performance(s). That is what tells the truest story of a players heart and his abilities. I don’t think Rivera wants guys he has to motivate to play. He’s looking for guys with decent ability, a chip on their shoulder, and a relentless desire to succeed. Honestly, I don’t see Coples as being that much better of a prospect than Everette Brown, and I was never very enthused about Brown.
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Is that to say, that proper coaching and motivation can't change him?
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 31, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Why take the risk though? Especially in the top 10.
The top 10 isn’t the place you want to pick the guy that might gain motivation from coaching.
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As hurney said...
You don’t want to miss on that guy.
For this reason, I do not think Coples is even being considered.
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by Tater596 on Jan 31, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've said for a while that Coples might be the pick.
If Hurney sees a stud there, then we’ll be picking him up because an effective pass rush is the best thing for a defense. Melvin Ingram could see his stock shoot up the boards after the combine as well.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 31, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
I was happy though with what Neblett and Kearse were able to do down the stretch. They seemed to do a great job in the middle of that line against the run and even in pass rush (Shirley did good here as well). Those guys coupled with Fua and McClain make me wonder if DT is really something we need to throw a high pick at this year. Fua and McClain were rookies thrown immediately into the starting lineups… not the best recipe for success.
Not to mention Ron Edwards will be coming back from injury this coming season.
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i think you're right
Combine with what you’ve said what we’ve heard from rivera about DT not being a priority and wilkes more recent comments about the strength of the secondary this year being the best class in recent years, makes me think we’re going o-line more and more. That or DE
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by LimeyPanther on Jan 31, 2012 8:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is my opinion. +1
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 31, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
To me it reeks of a Louis Leonard/Ed Johnson situation.
I would not call Neblett, Kearse, Shirley, Fua, McClain or Edwards ‘birds in the hand.’ Neblett would be the closest thing, but he is probably a little bit of a tweener. He’s a better NT than UT, but he’s not big enough to be a full-time NT.
We need one sure-fire impact player, or potential impact player, IMO.
We need a nose tackle.
I think they provide a solid rotation.
And with more experience and cohesion can become “top half of the league” worthy.
An impact player would be nice, but I don’t think Brockers, Thompson, Still, etc. are worthy of our 1st pick. Brockers has a nice ceiling, but right out of the gates, I don’t think he provides any more improvement than Neblett or McClain.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 31, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking more about FA than the draft.
Not sure any “impact” DL will be unrestricted FAs, and on top of that I’m not sure they’d sign with us, or be invited to sign with us. So maybe it’s a pipe dream. But my feeling on the matter remains the same…we need an upgrade to either DT position before our defensive problems can be corrected.
We need a nose tackle.
Gotcha on the FA's. I wish we could sign a top tier DT this offseason, but I don't see it happening.
I think that we can mold our defense into a tolerable force without major improvement at Defensive Tackle. But I agree, we do need to upgrade our DT’s before we can become a good defense.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 31, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
theres been a fairly small group of people who have questioned hardy this year
His ability to be a full time starter, his consistency. A lot of other fans dismissed this because hardy is a) very popular with a great nickname and b) dynamic in the right situation. I feel much more justified in my criticism of hardy seeing these numbers. What concerns me more is our rolb position. I still maintain james anderson was one of our best players last year but he has to improve his run game on this evidence. At the same time thank god he can tackle as well as anyone on the team. This information has really put me off zack brown. If a linebacker can’t tackle he aint worth jack.
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by LimeyPanther on Jan 31, 2012 8:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Ron Edwards
Forgive me, but why is anyone sure that Ron Edwards is the solution and will help our defense do a 180 or start to even turn the corner next season? He has never played a snap for the Panthers and will be 33 week one next season coming off a major injury. 2 of 10 seasons he started all 16 games. He is a totally average player on the wrong side of 30 coming off a major injury.
I understand that if we could start Urkel at DT it would probably be a improvement but Ron Edwards isn’t a huge asset that we can build on in the future.
by Relax on Jan 31, 2012 9:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
He is a totally average player on the wrong side of 30 coming off a major injury.
Because, sadly, that represents an upgrade for this team. And I may be wrong, but I don’t think his injury has man long-term lingering effects like an ACL or Achilles tear does.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 31, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
A triceps tear doesn't qualify as a 'major injury'...
I get what you’re saying, but I’m not concerned about his injury.
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Ok. Whatever.
For a defensive tackle a triceps tear is a fairly major injury. For any player to miss a whole season at 32 is bad for all types of strength and conditioning issues. Any injury that requires surgery I would generally tilt the injury more towards the serious side. But keep nit picking.
I should have just said injury. I stand corrected.
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alrite bro
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Wow. Okay then.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 31, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
I guess everyone just loves to hate me.
But whatever, I ain’t losing sleep over it.
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by The Duke Dude on Jan 31, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell? Are you guys trying to see who can be the snarkiest smart-ass?
(I love it.)
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not me, i dont wanna have a sore throat for that reason.....hell i already have enough protein in my diet.
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by braves&panthers4ever on Jan 31, 2012 6:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don't think anyone sees him as a superstar player
However, he’s an average player.
If our defense had been average this season, we’d have made the playoffs.
The jump from abysmal to average is a huge jump.
Part of what went wrong is the lack of exicution
of the coaches new system. Our run D imporved greatly later in the year when the players understood more of what was exspected of them. This not a cop-out however. A glareing flaw in the games were ofcourse the lack of penetration from the d-line. It is going to require either the rookies to step up or some one to step out.
What hurt us the most this year was the injury to Jon Beason, (T.Davis does not count as he has not really played in nearly 3 years.) If he can come back and maining his health and abilities the team can go far.
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speaking of injury riddled players
I hadn’t realised dan morgan was a scout for the seahawks. I always liked dan, twas a shame about the way his career ended. I really hope (sadly it seems likely) that davies career doesn’t end the same way.
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by LimeyPanther on Jan 31, 2012 9:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Strange as it sounds Morgan had a better carrer thus far.
He lite it up in the playoffs and super bowl. What scares me about Davis is that in 10-20 years he will be walking with a cain. three tears in as many years does not seem to be by chance, perhaps his body just can nto take the power and strain he has to put it through.
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Also, the right side (of the offense) was often Sherrod's responsibility.
Not that we haven’t beat him into the ground sufficiently, but…
We need a nose tackle.
Funny the rankings look like they do.
Because it seemed like the favorite run was the “up the middle—no, actually let’s cut it out to the right and gain 25 yards.”
We need a nose tackle.
Yep.
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If You Follow The Link In The Post, You Will Find A Chart At The Bottom Showing That 50% Of All Runs Against The Panthers Were Up The Middle
by PanthersRoar on Jan 31, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
what's the % of run plays up the middle
for the league regardless of opponent?
The handwriting was on the wall for that when Reggie Bush was gashing us up the middle in the preseason game.
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by carolinapillpusher on Jan 31, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
We were basically at the league average in all areas
Doesn’t seem like we were specially picked on.
11% left end (Panthers 11%)
15% left tackle (Panthers 14%)
50% mid/guard (Panthers 50%)
14% right tackle (Panthers 12%)
11% right end (Panthers 13%)
No, it sure doesn't.
Teams just ran it more often, I guess—or got more yards per carry—or both.
We need a nose tackle.
How did each of our tackles do individually?
when they were in the game who had the most impact? and who was the best tandem?
Disappointing to hear that Greg Hardy was a liability. He is a good player but this year was really disappointing for him. I know he was injured and played through it but still he was our second best option and he was unable to step up and really contribute. Next season though I have high expectations for him.
I have a feeling that his lingering injury really hampered him throughout the season… not to mention the first half of the season our Run D was abysmal to say the least and we were playing musical chairs at LB. I will say this though, that we need to give him another year there at DE. If he still can’t get enough going playmaking wise, then perhaps we need to look for a DE to start alongside Big Money next year…
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We'll know about the individual DTs/tandems when the advanced charting stats come out
I honestly don’t have the expertise to evaluate every snap like the guys at FO do. They release their advanced charting stats sometime during the offseason, when those are out I’ll write something up on each individual tackle
Fantastic Thanks James
I have to agree with you Ivan, if Hardy doesn’t show up next year we need another option. Hell trade for someone on the Giants. Each one of their defensive ends could be starters somewhere
by pantherpride on Jan 31, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Cant wait to see those stats.
Run defense definitely picked up at the end of the season. Curious to see which DT’s were responsible for stabilizing the run D. Possibly Neblett?
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Somebody mentioned it earlier, but I'll be captain redundant...
We should not be feeling comfortable about our DT situation if the only one out of the group that elicits much optimism is Neblett; I get that McClain and Fua are youngins (and I liked that McClain in particular seemed to improve before his injury), but fact remains that we need a stud DT in the worst way possible, preferably someone on the good side of 30 lol I can’t wait for the combine days to see who is really separating themselves from the pack in terms of potential, because there really is a good amount of line talent in this draft…
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not too worried
I think we definitely need help in our run defense, but I think adding another player won’t be as beneficial in 2012 as the offseason will be for our veterans. Most DTs don’t make an impact for a couple years, so if we draft one in the first round, we might get a guy who is a top tier talent for the next decade, but he won’t be destroying defenses as a rookie. There is no Marcell Dareus or Suh in this draft. I think a big problem we had last year was inexperience and lack of training camp. There were many plays when the opposing RB would hit a hole and noone would hit him for 5-7 yards. That’s not a lack of talent. That’s a bunch of guys not knowing where they’re supposed to be. I also think our guys will have a lot more practice getting off of blocks. So as our guys get more experience in the system through the offseason, and more conditioning through offseason training, they are just gonna be better. I’m not talking total domination, but enough so that 6 or 7 RBs don’t have the best game of their careers against us. Also, fewer 3 and outs, and fewer turnovers are gonna help the defensive line the most. It’s not cool when the offense has to protect the DL, but it is what it is. I just expect there to be
When you have a top 10 pick...
You have to go for talent you couldn’t afford in the FA market. That usually means a lineman. I think we need another talented DE and this is one of the most expensive spots to fill outside of the draft. I would take either Mercilus or DeCastro here.
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by Panthster on Feb 1, 2012 10:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
good point
I think I’d rather have a top tier corner in the draft, but every year there seems to be more good DBs available than linemen. OL also seem to be more productive sooner. Some really good DBs need a couple years, and we already have a top 5 corner in Gamble. Also, it seems that there will be a good DB available when we pick in the 2nd round. Some people think there are 5 or more DBs in this draft who could be long-term starters. If we have ahealthy OL, get more than 5 yards a carry as a team, with fewer penalties and turnovers, that will go a long way to help the defense, and get us to our first championship.
by usana_gaines on Feb 1, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I am not a Dre K fan
He looks like Sherrod 2.0 with his lack of tackling skills. That is based on what I have seen in the bowl game and on YouTube. I don’t want any more bad tacklers in our secondary. I think Barron has covered Dre’s weakness by cleaning up for him. Plus he proved he’s an idiot by getting arrested months from the draft.
So I agree with you… Draft a cb later with the deep talent at this position.
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by Panthster on Feb 1, 2012 10:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why are we so concerned about CB?
Yes, Gamble is the only top-tier talent we have. However, we have Hogan (and wasn’t he originally slated as late 1st round in last year’s draft before his troubles and injuries dropped him to us in the 4th?) and Butler both to evaluate — Hogan in particular, since we didn’t really get much of a chance to look at him due to his injuries. I see no reason to be desperate to put a pick in on CB when we still have evaluation to do on what we do have. Personally, I’d be happy to see Hogan work out and take #2, so we can finally move Cap to the nickel packages where he seems to shine.
I’m more worried about the safeties — Martin in particular, given his lackluster overall performance. If Wilks believes he can push Martin to be better, more power to him — but I think picking up a safety to compete would be good for both Godfrey and Martin. But since it’s been said that the draft for safeties won’t be good until next draft… guess we’ll see how it goes.
I think there is some merit to this, NX.
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We need a nose tackle.
by ERL on Feb 1, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
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We need a nose tackle.
by ERL on Feb 1, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
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We need a nose tackle.
by ERL on Feb 2, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Hardy
I think you could see Hardy playing more dt. I think Panthers will draft de in 2nd round. Hardy’s problem was he could never seal the edge. Also lb play was weak all year at tackling and being out of position. If Dre K is there in 1st. round, they will select him.
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