Wilks: Draft Talent at CB & Safety 'One of the Best'
by Jaxon on Jan 30, 2012 11:41 PM EST
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PrintAfter spending a week at the Senior Bowl new Panthers defensive backs coach Steve Wilks says this class is one of the best:
"From what I've been able to gather so far, it's probably one of the best classes they've had in years as far as corners and safeties," Wilks said. "As coaches, we're all selfish and feel like you can never have enough players, particularly with the way the game is today and how much passing there is. You want to have as many DBs and corners on your roster as possible, so I'm always lobbying for more guys."
With pass rushers at a premium I'm starting to back off of taking a CB early and instead look to the later rounds, maybe even the 2nd round, for a CB. One of the top DTs or DEs though I'm not unhappy with our current group. Brockers, Still, Coples or Ingram should get long looks.
Wilks also likes what he has on the roster right now:
"It's still a little early," he said. "But from afar, I feel like
Chris Gamble is still one of the top corners in the National Football League, and there are also two good safeties here in (Charles) Godfrey and (Sherrod) Martin. I'm excited about a lot of the guys we have and am looking forward to working with those guys."
One player he didn't mention is already on the Wilks-train, CB Captain Munnerlyn:
"From talking to him, I'm ready to play now," Munnerlyn said. "Hearing some of the stuff he's going to have us doing, I'm ready to play. He's a great guy."
Well there you have it. Wilks is excited to be here; the players are excited to have him. He's excited about the DB draft class; I'm excited to who the Panthers add to the secondary.
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Chase Minnifield
He reminds me a ton of Chris Gamble. Similar size, speed, and history as a WR-turned-CB. Plus he’s got that same return ability Gamble showed coming out of college. I like him enough in the 2nd to not worry about taking a CB in the first.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 31, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
I only have one memory of Gamble returning kicks.
It isn’t a good one.
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by Imisshooooooooov on Jan 31, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
I like Minnifield for us too.
Just that so many teams ahead of us in the 2nd round need CBs, I’m afraid he won’t make it to us.
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by carolinapillpusher on Jan 31, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Im hoping for Hosley also
But that’s because I’m a Homer.
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by KissMyConverse on Jan 31, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Towing the company line
When there are only 2 of them, he’d be remiss not to mention them both.
I think the draft and free agency will say all it needs to about Sherrod Martin’s play.
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I think Godfrey is a much better safety
With a halfway competent safety playing beside him. He doesn’t have that right now.
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I think he just needs to move back to his original position...
I guess I’ll give Sherrod Martin a pass though. We’re not playing the same D that we did before and he seems to have adjusted badly.
Maybe he'll improve this year
Something tells me that Wilks is a better DBs coach than Meeks, and he will also have a greater understanding of what Rivera wants to do, and probably better chemistry.
Either way, no way we just flat out cut Martin, at worse he’ll be a backup or maybe even a corner.
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Martin just took a step back this year[ prolly bc of a new system]
Martin was really good the year before!
by TheWhite Mamba on Jan 31, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
He's definitely more suited for the Nickel.
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i would take
Brandon Boykin in the 2nd with out a doubt.
by Panther-Brodes on Jan 31, 2012 12:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't particularly care for him
But he broke his leg in the Senior Bowl and while it’s not a severe as originally thought, he still won’t be able to work out at the combine because of it. If we want him, he’ll be available later.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 31, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
Yup
It wasn’t a bad break, but still a break: http://atlanta.sbnation.com/georgia-bulldogs/2012/1/28/2755399/brandon-boykin-broken-leg
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 31, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
wowww
I didn’t know that either, in that case cliff Harris or hoseley.
by Panther-Brodes on Jan 31, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I honestly do not see B/B as an upgrade over Captain Munnerlyn.
For some reason, The Captain is not appearing on the Panthers roster today:
http://www.catscratchreader.com/roster
Is that a hint?
How long before he hears about this?
Ha.ha.ha... Hi Coach Wilks....
I TOTALLY agree that Sherrod and Godfrey are really good safeties ONLY if you want Dr Brees to keep you sleepless at night by shredding your SECONDARY and making mockery of your defense..
Coach…let me bring to your attention that there is a high probability the panthers will be on prime time in atleast one game next season and you don’t want good QB exposing your secondary on National TV for the whole world to see
Anyways….Welcome to the Panthers…and welcome back home!
The man has been doing this for years and has had pretty good success at it.
If he says this Panther team has a good crop of potential talent in the Defensive Backfield then let him work his magic. Whether it’s with new draft picks or current talent I think he can make them a pretty decent group.
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He just got here.
One of his first official statements isn’t going to be….
Boy, I tell you what, our safeties stink. And I don’t mean they just stink, these bastards are HORRIBLE. Well, that Godfrey guy could be alright, but Martin? Jesus Christ, he’s bad.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 31, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
Three acceptable answers:
If it comes down to it I'm going to suit up rather than put Martin back there again.
Did you see him try to tackle Reggie Wayne?
How about that TD he gave up on the last play of the half a few weeks ago.....yeah the one where he somehow got beat deep despite only having to defend the endzone.
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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT
by MikeTrain on Jan 31, 2012 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just get us a pass rusher that can bring the pain.
Seems like the guy everyone loves to hate won’t go down with out a fight, that being Coples. If BAMF wants him, then I want him.
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Yeah I was wondering what safeties he is talking about
But in general… you don’t tend to hear about safeties unless they are all world talent. They just don’t get the attention. I’m sure he has a better eye than we all do.
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Obviously Barron is a stud,
And George Iloka from Boise has gotten some praise lately as a guy that can shut down the TE/WR hybrids around the leage like Finley and Graham. But yeah, the group as a whole isn’t that interesting.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 31, 2012 8:30 AM EST up reply actions
I was hoping we could find a safety prospect in the 5th or 6th round
but it almost does not seem worth it at that point now. Hopefully we can sign one of the low level free agent guys to provide competition and be a decent back up at worst. At the very least, bring some guys into camp to provide some competiton.
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by carolinapillpusher on Jan 31, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
FWIW, Walter football has 3 safties mocked to go in the first round of the 2013 draft,
and that doesn’t include the FS who will be coming out of Alabama next year. On the surface, it appears next year will be a much better draft year for the safety position.
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by carolinapillpusher on Jan 31, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
I've heard good things about Harrison Smith out of Notre Dame, but I've never seen him play.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 31, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I really think Wilks can turn Sherrod around...he played well his rookie season
I think he was confused by the scheme at times, lost his assignment, took bad angles. Wilks can fix that.
Hard to fix that steaming pile that was the “attempted tackle” of Reggie Wayne though…
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 31, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
You mean his attempt to pull Wayne's nonexistent flag-belt?
He was practicing for when Goodell inevitably equips the WRs with flag football flags with player safety in mind.
The sad thing was when I saw the two of them out there one on one
I had a feeling it was going to be ugly. I just had no idea it would be THAT ugly.
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by carolinapillpusher on Jan 31, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
I bet captn wants to get back out there and play!
so he can watch TDs/1st downs sail over his head all season long! Where is the do not want dog? I DO NOT WANT TO EVER SEE CAPTN AT STARTING CORNER AGAIN! the man is too short/crappy instincts or something
by TheWhite Mamba on Jan 31, 2012 10:24 AM EST reply actions
I think it's more he's out of position than anything.
He should only be in as the Nickel back covering the slot, not covering the #2 receiver.
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maby but.......
I got sick to my stomach watching him give up first downs on 3rd…..seems like every time it was his guy catching that first!
by TheWhite Mamba on Jan 31, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure you did. A guy playing out of position will have that happen.
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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT
by MikeTrain on Jan 31, 2012 10:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If I had to put money on it, I'd say that one of our first three picks will be used on a corner.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 31, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions
Depends on what happens.
Don’t think they’d reach on a position just to try and fill a need, but if you’re playing a game of averages then you’re probably right.
We need a nose tackle.
I believe you have a 100% shot of winning that bet, at least I hope
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by carolinapillpusher on Jan 31, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
We have a wild card in the mix... don't forget about Hogan. He's healthy now and will get the full off-season of OTAs and
Training Camp. We don’t know what he’s got, but the coaches do. If they pick a corner early (before 5th round), I think it means they have doubts about Hogan. If they don’t pick a CB high, it’s a very good sign.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Good point.
I believe that we will take a DB with our second rounder. To bring in a guy that Wilks likes to give him a new player to groom under his new tenure here. One guy I never see anyone mention on here is Casey Hayward out of Vandy. He may not have played with the upper crust teams out of the SEC this guy is a solid defender against the pass and run. If we do not go CB with our first rounder this is the CB I really like for us to pick up in the 2nd no doubt. He is going to be a really good NFL player I hope we don’t miss out on him.
I like him too, and I've almost mocked him to us in several of my drafts.
You might see him in one of my future drafts.
by Derek Leazer on Jan 31, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
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