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Gatherings from the Senior Bowl 3rd Day of Practice



It's the third day of the Senior Bowl practices and with its progression there's been a number of prospects whom have made their mark and impressed, others that have underwhelmed, and some that commenced by having weak showings and later ended up leaving strong impressions on the scouts.

Again, for this third day I have compiled information from different sources about these college football prospects that have practiced today and therefor will now bring it forth and present it to you.

Here it is:

Linebackers:

Zach Brown (OLB) looked good in practice because that is when he should theoretically look best since there is no tackling allowed and that is something he struggles to do. But he took better angles than I saw on tape and clearly has all the athleticism you could want in coverage.

James Michael Johnson (ILB) of Nevada continues to look very athletic on the field, but today he's starting to make plays on the ball.
Lavonte David (OLB) of Nebraska continues to impress. He just made a great play in full scrimmage against the run, exploding up the field to stop Pead behind the line of scrimmage. David has looked good in coverage drills all morning. He's athletic, easily runs downfield with backs or tight ends and nicely positions himself to defend the pass. David has great speed and quickness, and hits like a ton of bricks. In my opinion, he should be a first round pick but size is a question..
Sean Spence (OLB) was disruptive today and when you watch him you can’t help but imagine how good he would be if he was bigger. His weigh-in likely hurt his stock, but in the right system (perhaps a Cover-2 or heavy zone system) he could be an impact linebacker.
Audie Cole (LB) of North Carolina State is not known for his foot speed or athleticism, but he's just a good, tough football player. Every time Cole has stepped to the line this morning he seems determined to stop his opponents by any means necessary, and for the most part he has.
Keenan Robinson (LB) has experience playing all three linebacker positions but I think his best position is probably the weak-side. He’s a helluva hitter, a very good tackler and he has ability in coverage. He’s a complete linebacker and he’s going to be a riser after this week. Keep an eye on him at practice, he will impress you.
Nigel Bradham (OLB) is another player I like. He’s just a solid, fundamentally sound guy that I think has a NFL future as a starter. I’ve liked him since his junior year, so I am excited to take a closer look at him the rest of the week when I have the chance.

More after the jump...

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Defensive Line:

Quentin Coples (DE) was the biggest winner out of anyone I watched today. The guy absolutely has top 5 talent, it’s just a question of how much he wants it. He will be as good as he wants to be, so it’s a question of desire and work ethic for judging him. Hopefully I’ll be able to get a sense of that throughout the week. He is just so athletic for his size that he had me drooling at his potential as a strong side end in a 4-3. He’s not an ideal right end in my opinion but as a left end he could be one of the best in the league if he wants it bad enough. I just hope he lands somewhere with a great defensive line coach that can light a fire under him. With Coples, we are looking at a legit edge rusher. Speed to turn the corner and athletic ability that isn't matched by anyone on the field for his size (6-6, 281).
Melvin Ingram (OLB/DE) looked very fluid in pass rush drills, showed an impressive variety of pass rush moves and consistently won 1 on 1 battles in the pit. I think he is fluid enough to be a 3-4 OLB and I think he has enough strength and power to play 4-3 DE. He’s a versatile player that will likely earn a 1st round grade from me once I’m able to watch him more on tape. Melvin Ingram showed good quickness and ability to get to the quarterback. He had a very good session in 1 on 1′s and I think Mike Mayock made a good point that if he gets drafted into a system with a plan in place to use him in different slots on all three downs, he could be a very valuable first round selection.
Courtney Upshaw (OLB/DE) is such a physically impressive player. He’s not a freak from a measurables standpoint but you can tell he’s going to be a quality player in the NFL from watching him. He’s so strong and physical that I would never bet against him. His lack of length might limit his upside a bit, but there’s no question he can be a starting outside linebacker in a 3-4 or maybe even a 4-3 left end. I just haven’t watched him enough yet, but I like his game. Size, quickness, hand placement, burst, effort–he is truly a five-tool player. He is an elite talent and is a future NFL star. Right now, he looks like a man among boys regardless if it’s the second practice or not, and I think he was ready for the NFL last year and has really turned up his game.
Shea McClellin (DE) One player that really impressed me today was Shea McClellin (Boise State). He’s very athletic, has impressive burst and really gave the offensive tackles trouble in 1 on 1’s today. I love his potential as a 3-4 outside linebacker. I haven’t seen him in coverage this week, but I really think he has the potential to be 1st rounder and an impact player at that position. He looks better every day at the linebacker position. He's been planted in the middle today and has done a great job remaining patient with assignments, smoothly moving across the field and showing a good degree of awareness.
Vinny Curry (OLB/DE) of Marshall is once again displaying a lot of quickness and athleticism. He looks more and more like he'll be a natural as a 3-4 outside linebacker rather than at defensive end. Mike Adams of Ohio State is really having a tough time this morning handling Vinny Curry. Curry has convincingly beat the big tackle off the snap every time. Curry was just moved inside to defensive tackle and annihilated Kevin Zeitler with a swim move. He shows very good burst off the snap of the football and used some rip moves on Wednesday's practice to beat the offensive lineman rather than just bull rushing or running around them like he did the days previously. Vinny Curry of Marshall really stood out today and was impossible to stop at times. He's at a disadvantage, as he's been used solely at defensive end and never allowed to stand up over tackle, but scouts leave the morning and the week highly impressed with his athleticism, quickness and general feel as a pass rusher.
Cam Johnson (DE) of Virginia has displayed a lot of quickness and speed off the edge in one-on-one drills. He continues to consistently get pressure and showed well against the run in Wednesday's practice.

Alameda Ta'amu (DT) of Washington is still showing tremendous power and has been tough to stop. On the last play he drove Ohio State center Mike Brewster into the backfield, three yards behind the line of scrimmage.
Brandon Thompson (DT) has solid measurables and packed 311 pounds onto his 6’2" frame but his burst and quickness is my favorite part about his game. He gets off the ball very quickly and overwhelmed some of the interior linemen on the South today. He was consistently disruptive all practice and looks like a quality 3-tech in the NFL, perhaps a similar player to Jonathan Babineaux on the Atlanta Falcons.
Jaye Howard (DT) is a guy I’ve liked since I watched him play over the course of his junior season and I was happy to get to see him live today. He’s lighter than I would have liked right now, but he beat Cordy Glenn a couple times in 1 on 1 drills. He’s got some burst and athleticism, but I’d like to see him get stronger and get up above 300 pounds for sure.
Mike Martin (DT) also continues to look good, making the most of his ability with his unstoppable effort. Mike Martin and Ohio State C Michael Brewster went at it at practice and it got a little chippy. Both guys really play hard and it was a fun battle to see.
Derek Wolfe (DT) of Cincinnati looks good this morning. He does not get a lot of penetration, but he's quick and impossible to move off the line of scrimmage.
Tydreke Powell (DT) showed some ability as bull-rusher in 1 on 1 drills when he was able to push his man off the ball, but did not showed the ability to shed and looked like 2-down guys in the NFL. Powell plays too high at times and negates his strength, and on film I’ve seen him try to penetrate upfield and make plays in the backfield despite his lack of great burst or quickness. He’s a mid-round guy in my opinion, and I’m not sure he has much upside
Jerod-Eddie (DT) (to Tydreke Powell) is similar but when I’ve seen him he seems like he has a bit better gap responsibility, but I haven’t done enough study on him yet. He seems like he could possibly be a 3-4 defensive end, but if he plays defensive tackle in a 4-3 he would strictly be a run stopper.

Defensivebacks:

Janoris Jenkins (CB) is quietly one of the best players at this event. He is showing dominance in man coverage and is looking like he’s really turned himself into a legit top 32 selection.

There is a lot of intrigue going around right now about Louisiana-Lafayette Dwight Bentley(CB). He had a very good season and while he got off to a slow start to practice on Tuesday, he made some nice plays.

Mike Mayock has Iowa State cornerback Leonard Johnson(CB) rated ahead of Alabama CB Dre’ Kirkpatrick. I have Johnson rated as a 2nd-3rd round pick.
There have been some concerns about Alfonzo Dennard’s(CB) recovery speed. He likes to take a lot of risks but is a very sound player fundamentally and should be a solid first or second round pick for any team. Leonard Johnson had his best day of practice and showed he's not afraid to mix it up and get physical on Wednesday. Leonard told me after practice he was looking forward to being able to play press coverage and get in the receivers faces.


Harrison Smith (SS) of Notre Dame has struggled. He looks good in pads but in scrimmage and during drills looks solely like a straight-line, downhill safety with limited skills in coverage.

Offensive Line:

Cordy Glenn (OG) was a very pleasant surprise as I didn’t expect a great week from him. He didn’t show much bend in his waist and had an impressive ability to anchor and sustain. He’s an impressive player that might be able to stick outside at tackle or succeed inside at guard. He’s definitely above Kelechi Osemele on my board right now.
Senio Kelemete (OG) of Washington was pushed inside to guard today and was effective. He's a solid athlete and his ability to block with sound fundamentals (knee bend, hand placement) is impressive.
Zebrie Sanders (OT) an impressive athlete with a good first step, he can get out of his stance quickly and block down on defensive tackles which I liked. He really needs to get stronger in the lower body though and his hand placement was an issue today. He was letting his hands get too far outside which will draw holding calls and limit his ability to control the defender after he’s engaged him. He’s struggled to "finish" blocks as well. Multiple times in 1 on 1’s he had won the battle right up until the end when Coples or Ingram would finish and he didn’t. Sustaining that block and playing to the whistle isn’t always something you can coach. He’s got the athleticism and the length to play left tackle though, he just needs some coaching and weight training. I still have a late 1st round grade on him, but he’s obviously not perfect.
Jeff Allen (OT) continues to impress. He’s one of those players that the more I’ve watched him the more I like him. He’s definitely a sleeper at left tackle right now and while he struggled with Coples a couple times today, so did everyone. Allen held his own all day though and impressed scouts without a doubt. He’s got left tackle ability and will definitely go higher than people think. He could go in the 2nd round when all is said and done.
Philip Blake (C) impressed me today. He showed a strong anchor and looked pretty good at guard and at center today. I will definitely be keeping an eye on him the rest of the week.
Ben Jones (C) did not impress me today. He was consistently beat off the snap by quicker players like Brandon Thompson and struggled to anchor against stronger players. He’s an average athlete that is a mid-late round player in my opinion, definitely not a 2nd or 3rd round Center. His stock is on its way down in my opinion.
William Vlachos (C) also looked bad today. His arms just look remarkably short (he measured in with 30 inch arms, which is not good for an offensive lineman) and he struggled to anchor today as well. He looks like a late round player to me.
Matt McCants (OT) had a bad day as well outside at tackle. He was victimized multiple times by Coples and Ingram as well as Courtney Upshaw. He has little strength in his lower body and it showed today. But he doesn’t look like an impressive athlete and just flat got beat off the edge a couple of times today. He’s not earning a high grade from me either, though I still need to study him.
Will Blackwell (OG) didn’t look very good though he was solid. He’s an average player in my eyes, not sure how much starting potential he has. He’s got a draftable grade from me, but didn’t impress me too much today.

Wide Receivers/ Tight Ends:

Marvin McNutt (WR) of Iowa looks improved this morning. Early-week jitters may have resulted in some stiffness and dropped passed but thus far he's looked very smooth and has caught the ball well. He has good hands and can really snatch the ball out of the air. He is really effective on short, underneath routes and on deep balls. His ability to go up and get the ball will make him an effective NFL player regardless of his 40 time.
Marvin Jones (WR) continued to show strong in practices. Jones continues to beat press coverage and drive defenders off in his cuts. He doesn't seem to waste any movement in his routes either and seems to catch everything. We spoke of his route-running skills and but he's also a heady ball player. He just did a terrific job staying with the action and following his quarterback across the field, finding the open space to help out the signal caller, who was about to be sacked. Jones also gives maximum effort on every play and held his own in run blocking drills.
Brian Quick (WR) isn't fast off the line of scrimmage, but he's big and strong enough to beat press coverage and runs routes well. He began catching the ball more with his hands today rather than letting everything into his body. His body type really reminds me of Brandon Marshall and the drops won’t move my comparison anywhere.
Devier Posey (WR) of Ohio State continues to impress with his physcal skills. He shows exceptional quickness in and out of routes and a nice burst of speed. He hasn't shown the strong hands or ability to pluck the ball from the air, but to his credit Posey has not dropped many passes the past three days.
Juron Criner (WR) made a sick one-handed catch in one-on-one drills today that drew the attention of, pretty much everyone. Criner has good size and if he can flash more of that kind of ability, he could really rise on our board.
TJ Graham (WR) of North Carolina State has displayed a great burst of speed in drills and just ran by Leonard Johnson for a deep pass. Graham has elevated his stock the past three days.
Doug Martin (WR) is impressing outside of special teams drills, too. He's showing terrific quickness and just put a great move on former Boise State teammate Shea McClellin to come free in the flat for a nice reception. Martin has shown soft, strong hands all week.
Chris Rainey(RB/WR) took some reps at receiver on Tuesday and looked pretty good. I saw a comparison of Dexter McCluster thrown out there and that might be a pretty good one. Still early.

Ladarius Green (TE) is my favorite tight end on this roster. He’s my #2 TE in Mobile behind only Michael Egnew, but Green may have just as much upside as any tight end in the draft. His combination of pure size and athleticism is extremely intriguing and like Egnew he has good hands. He needs work as a blocker, but if the effort and work ethic is there that can be coached. But he will be a helluva match-up problem as a receiver who can be split out in the NFL, and those joker tight ends are all the rage right now. He looks like a 2nd or 3rd round prospect to me

Deangelo Peterson (TE) is another player I’ve liked all year. He’s a sleeper because he never got much of a chance to show what he can do as a receiver at LSU, so he could surprise people once he gets to the next level. He’s got pretty good hands, size and athleticism and should end up in the 4th round or maybe a little higher on draft day.
Brad Smelley (TE) has had a solid couple of days. He’s not an early-round guy by any means, but he’s draftable and has the work ethic to be a contributor on special teams and work his way up the tight end depth chart despite his lack of great size and athleticism.

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Good write up

Which of these guys looks to be mid round picks for Carolina? I’m thinking we dress up the o-line but thats just me.

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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 25, 2012 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

It depends on how our first two rounds come to fruition but I'd like to get...

some O-Line depth, LB, TE/WR, DB. Someone like Chris Rainey who has scatback ability which Rivera really likes would be nice.

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by Efury on Jan 26, 2012 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Imagine this...

A four WR formation with Rainey and Smitty in the slots…DBs would probably crap themselves.

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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 26, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Rainey would certainly add another wrinkle to this already potent Offense and I know that Chud has the ability to exploit that to it's fullest.

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by Efury on Jan 26, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Assuming he can take NFL hits, Rainey would be an interesting pick up.

I’d be surprised if he’s around for the 4th round though. He’s lit up the Senior Bowl.

Not to blow my own trumpet, but I noticed his talent a while ago – his speed and toughness (for a small guy) really stands out on tape.

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by OldhamA on Jan 26, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen it too

unfortunately its been at the expense of my Dawgs

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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 26, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be shocked if he doesn't run a 4.2 at the Combine.

He won’t make it past the third round.

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by OldhamA on Jan 26, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Well any team that drafts him knows he's not a 20 carry a guy man.

He’s a joker.

You line him up in the slot or in the backfield – wherever the match up is best for him that day.

You then get the ball into his hands 5+ times a game (assuming he’s handling your return duties) on reverses, screens, stretches, slants etc etc. Anything that gets the ball into his hands quickly in space – hell you even send him deep on occasion ‘cos he’ll burn most CBs with pure speed. He doesn’t even have to touch the ball to be effective – he’d be a great decoy.

He’s a lesser Percy Harvin and the perfect landing spot for him is Denver.

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by OldhamA on Jan 26, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

there are so many good D-Line players in this draft

i just also like our D-Line right now.

I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was

by pcroadrage on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you for doing the "legwork" Efury.

I truly believe that Coples will be in the conversation when it comes to our 1st round pick, and if Jenkins somehow falls to our spot in the 2nd round, we shouldn’t hesitate to take him.

by Derek Leazer on Jan 25, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

im not a fan of Coples with our pick at 8/9

but i wouldnt be upset about it. I really like him and Brown

I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was

by pcroadrage on Jan 25, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

what did you expect from martin and brewster?

Ones a buckeye and ones a wolverine. Ha! See how much I’m learning about college ball? I need to find a team to support

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by LimeyPanther on Jan 25, 2012 10:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Don't make my mistake and support the U.

Not unless Golden is as good as I suspect.

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by OldhamA on Jan 26, 2012 5:12 AM EST up reply actions  

lol. im thinking iowa

They just seem to produce amazing lineman.

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by LimeyPanther on Jan 26, 2012 10:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

For the love of all humanity please don't pick Iowa!

Pick the real USC…the real Carolina…the University of South Carolina.

When else can you say “Go Cocks!” and be cool? Nowhere.

Pick Smart. Pick South Carolina.

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

It's certainly the only place in South Carolina...

Where you can profess your love for cock and not get the crap kicked out of you.

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by Tater596 on Jan 26, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

lol very true

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

The real Carolina?

Please…

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 26, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, South Carolina is the real Carolina...
The English colony of the Province of Carolina was started in Charleston in 1670

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

You're talking about the school though.

And we all know that. But if you want to be specific, Roanoke Island, present-day North Carolina, was settled in 1584.

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 26, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

But it wasn't called Carolina. :-)

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

If you want a semi-competitive team with an insanely loyal fanbase with

consistently unrealistic expectations, a screaming inferiority complex, and great in-state rivalries one would be hard pressed to find better options than South Carolina or NC State.

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by Vagus on Jan 26, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

or if you want to be really specific

we’re talking about schools, and the first public university in the US gets dibs on the subject. perhaps if the other school in question was in charleston…

by Lost_terrapin on Jan 26, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Or if you want to be really really specific...

Jake and I were just having a small back and forth.

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

all righty..

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by Lost_terrapin on Jan 26, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i dunno the 'go cocks' things is pretty funny

I haven’t got any loyalty to carolina though other than the panthers. I haven’t even been to america let alone carolina. @ Whose app state’s biggest rival? :)@

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by LimeyPanther on Jan 26, 2012 12:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Georgia Southern

But if you pull for them then I will hunt you down. I hell hate Georgia Southern.

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 26, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

You think Georgia Southern?

Most people would say Wester Carolina, problem being that hasn’t been a competitive rivalry lately. I would say that I agree it is either GSU or Furman.

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by Tater596 on Jan 26, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Western is our "rival"

But it’s hardly competitive and I think it’s just a rivalry at this point because of geography. I have a lot more animosity towards Georgia Southern than any other team in our conference.

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 26, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

go eagles (and yes i did have to google their team name)

Is it wrong to support a team just cuz they have a cool nickname? The wolverines is pretty bad ass… Not sure if it tops gamecocks though ahaahahah

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by LimeyPanther on Jan 26, 2012 10:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s a good point

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by LimeyPanther on Jan 26, 2012 10:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm full of them.

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by OldhamA on Jan 27, 2012 7:10 AM EST up reply actions  

South Carolina Gamecocks

Play in the best conference, always on ESPN, have a hateful in state rivalry, and some of the best players in the nation. And a legendary coach!

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by MikeTrain on Jan 26, 2012 10:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks for being on top of this Efury

To me, this is the most meaningful info as far as draft stock is concerned right now. I appreciate you aggregating it all. A couple things I noticed:

-OLB Lavonte David should be on all of our radars right now. Think of him as a more athletic and harder hitting version of Jordan Senn. Unlike Senn, I would feel comfortable sticking Lavonte on some of the more dangerous TEs in the league. He has the speed to run with them, enough size to get in their face and break up passes, and the sounds tackling skills to bring them down. IMO, he sounds like a great contingency plan with the TD situation still up in the air, and he may be available with our 2nd round pick.

-DE Quentin Coples sounded like he had a better day today, but that is my biggest fear with him. When he shows up, he shows up BIG TIME, but when he doesn’t it’s like he’s not even on the field. While I think we have the disciplinarians on staff to make a full time player out of him, right now I am having a hard time seeing him being a better fit for us than Melvin Ingram, who brings great versatility to the table as far as 4-3 and 3-4 looks.

-DT Alameda Ta’amu sounds like he has been dominant all week. While he may not have the cieling of a guy like Brockers, he certainly sounds like the “big fatty” we need in the middle, and sounds ready to contribute immediately.

-Sounds like the OL had a rough day of practice. I don’t know if this is a condemnation of them, or a praising of the DL, but it looks like not many people helped their stock today.

-WR Brian Quick is drawing lofty Brandon Marshall comparisons, without the attitude problem. It is reassuring that they say he is running good routes, as that was something he was not perceived to be good at while at App. It was easy for him to get by with athleticism alone, he didn’t need to run great routes. Unfortunately, I think he is pricing himself out of contention to be picked by us.

-WR Marvin Jones sounds like a guy I want on my roster. Currently slated as a 5th or 6th round pick, even if he improves his stock he may very well be within our budget. This all just sounds too good to be true, I wonder what the catch is…

Jones continues to beat press coverage and drive defenders off in his cuts. He doesn’t seem to waste any movement in his routes either and seems to catch everything. We spoke of his route-running skills and but he’s also a heady ball player. He just did a terrific job staying with the action and following his quarterback across the field, finding the open space to help out the signal caller, who was about to be sacked. Jones also gives maximum effort on every play and held his own in run blocking drills.

So… he catches everything that comes his way, runs great routes, has great awareness and a knack for finding holes in coverage to help a scrambling QB (read Netwon, Cam), and is a high effort guy with good run blocking skills? What is not to like?!?!?!

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by Tater596 on Jan 26, 2012 12:24 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

I agree on Lavonte David

The dude is a tackling machine. He doesn’t jump off the paper when looking at his measurables, but the guy is a ball player. Very solid tackler, great instincts, runs well in coverage. If we could get him in the second I would be jumping for joy!

by JStewart28 on Jan 26, 2012 12:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Marvin Jones sounds like he's had a great showing...

I’d take a chance on him with a mid-round pick. He sounds like a terrific player.

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by Efury on Jan 26, 2012 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's not forget that the combine is on the horizon.

Any of these guys could rise or fall farther with a great or poor performance there.

by Derek Leazer on Jan 26, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Ingram will riseee. He has great athleticism.. Scored on a 60 + yard punt return

And had 3 defensive TDs last year

Many analysts have him already in the top 15, I could see him rise with a great combine.

Amazing motor and doesn’t take plays off. Coples seems like a less talented peppers, I’d rather us stay away haha

Ingram and upshaw are my two favorite def players in this draft. Especially Ingram, he is going to be great.

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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 26, 2012 10:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I really like Ingram

Honestly he reminds me of Charles Johnson, just a better athlete.

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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 26, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I've been saying this since the beginning of the season...

A defensive coach like Rivera has to salivate seeing Ingram out there. Our 4-3 front would consist of a mixture of our DT’s and Applewhite, Hardy, Johnson, and Ingram. On 3rd down, all 4 could be on the field at the same time w/ Hardy and Ingram moving to the middle. Our 3-4 front would be Edwards/Fua in the middle, Hardy, and whoever stands out in practice as the other DE. Then rush LBs would be Ingram and Johnson. If anything, we’d pressure the QB a LOT more than we’ve seen in the past 4-5 years

by LeventiJ on Jan 26, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He was returning punts?!

Wow… talk about a load to bring down.

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by Tater596 on Jan 26, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

No...they ran a fake punt.

Yes….a fake punt to the DE. It was glorious.

Here, see for yourself.

And the best part is Georgia’s Mascot’s reaction, seen here. (Forgive the poor video quality.)

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

And just because I'm in the mood for Gamecock highlights...

Check out this sick grab by Alshon Jeffery.

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

That... is just awesome.

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by Tater596 on Jan 26, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I nearly soiled myself when it happened.

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Same here haha

"What up? We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion. Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things." Again, NOTHING SEXUAL

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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Plus apparently he has the athleticism to play 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE which can come in handy with a hybrid 3-4/4-3 Defense.

To quote the scout:

I think Mike Mayock made a good point that if he gets drafted into a system with a plan in place to use him in different slots on all three downs, he could be a very valuable first round selection.

It seems as if he has a lot of versatility which Rivera values.

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by Efury on Jan 26, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Jenkins................................................ everyone else.

I actually like a whole bunch of defensive players in this draft.

There’s a whole group of DTs that intrigue me – there isn’t an elite talent, but in the right system there’s 5 or 6 DTs that could be good NFL players. There’s less talent at DE, but there is some.

LB is a concern for me – I don’t see any stand out players. Upshaw is good, but he’s a 3-4 OLB or a DE in a 4-3. The same goes for Ingram, except you could probably shift him inside on third downs too. Z. Brown, for example, is a ridiculous athlete but I just don’t see the instincts. The only two I love are Kuechly (although I want to see what he runs at the Combine before committing to that) and Spence – cos he’s f’ing awesome and from the U, but obviously he’s undersized.

That said I’d be interested in drafting Ingram if we were picking lower. Rivera and co would find some creative ways to use him I’m sure.

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by OldhamA on Jan 26, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Re: Marvin Jones

Here’s his info page from Cal’s site.

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.. still don't see the downside.

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by Tater596 on Jan 26, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Me either...must be some off-field issue or something.

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

And lavonte David was all over the field making plays in the bowl game vs us.

Even though we won 31-13, he was their best player, putting dennard to shame. Fantastic awareness/tackling

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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 26, 2012 10:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Per NFL.com, on Ingram (Aka MI6)

[quote] Ingram couldn’t be blocked in the Tuesday practice, as he showcased a complete arsenal of pass rush moves. He reminds me a lot of Pittsburgh Steelers star LaMarr Woodley, and is stout against the run. I see him as more of a 3-4 outside linebacker than a 4-3 defensive end.
[/quote]

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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 26, 2012 10:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Sounds like a great player to me

He was extremely impressive in the Chick-Fil-A Bowl, which was the only time this season I have actually watched him.

The fact he brings 3-4/4-3 versatility to the table can only help his cause in our case.

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by Tater596 on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Ahem...Capital One Bowl.

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Ooof! May bad.

Chick-Fil-A was year before right?

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by Tater596 on Jan 26, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Correct. We played FSU in the Chick-Fil-A Bowl last year.

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by BW Smith on Jan 26, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Ta'amu in round 2, prease!

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by ERL on Jan 26, 2012 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

What about a safety?

Sherrod Martin CANNOT be starting for us next year. Or at least he and Godfrey can’t start together as both are clearly FS’s. We need a head buster. I’m thinking Antonio Allen in the 2nd.

Safety seems like our biggest need to me…

by LeventiJ on Jan 26, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I don't think I can say safety is a bigger need than an impactful DT...

But if Barron is there with our 2nd pick I’ll have my fingers crossed.

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by ERL on Jan 26, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Safety is definitely one of our biggest needs.

I just haven’t seen a great safety emerge yet. Even Barron has holes in his game.

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by Tater596 on Jan 26, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I Couldn't Agree More Tater, Panthers Might Be Better Off Signing UNC FS Deunta Williams

FS Deunta Williams (6-2, 205, 33 1/4 inch arms) was projected to be a 2nd round pick in the 2011 draft, but went undrafted after an injury that prevented him from being able to play in 2011.

If he’s recovered, Williams might be as good, or even better than any of this years draft crop of safities.

by PanthersRoar on Jan 26, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Barron is going to be a fantastic 'in the box' SS.

Anything outside of that depends on which team he goes to and which coaches he works with.

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by OldhamA on Jan 26, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is precisely what we need.

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Jan 27, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I think they can adequately adress safety in Free Agency.

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by Efury on Jan 26, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Well as it has been mentioned...

there are guys like Tyvon Branch, Dashon Goldson, Michael Griffin, Laron Landry, Thomas Decoud, ect. Which are guys of quality at the safety position and acquiring one of these safeties could be very much in the range of what the Panthers can do this off season.

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by Efury on Jan 26, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Would LOVE AA... he is great in coverage (ESP vs TE's) and is a hard hitter.

Big time playmaker, had 3 defensive TD’s last season.

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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 26, 2012 7:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm hoping brown slips to the 2nd somehow and he is there when we are picking

The guy is a beast. I haven’t noticed this tackling issue that they bring up, but they aren’t the only scouts who have pointed it out so it probably is a legitimate concern. However, if we got him we could consider our problems covering TEs over.

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by SouthernPanther on Jan 26, 2012 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

No chance.

He’s going to run a 4.4 at the Combine and a team is going to fall in love with his athleticism.

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by OldhamA on Jan 26, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Janoris Jenkins took an extra step a couple of times switching directions but he has such explosion and burst that he still wound up being the fastest to complete the drill on most reps. Function over form, to quote a NFC South head coach who was intently watching him.

Read more: http://football.realgm.com/src_hangtime/80/20120125/senior_bowl_notes_wednesdays_south_practice/#ixzz1kbw9EThG

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease have been Rivera.

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by OldhamA on Jan 26, 2012 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

On a completely unrelated note;

the Hurricanes are trying to recruit a kid called Harvey-Clemons (LB) and have secured his last official visit. Michael Barrow turned up to his basketball game on Tuesday and apparently Ray freakin’ Lewis will be there for his visit.

How could a kid turn that down?!

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by OldhamA on Jan 26, 2012 6:57 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure why a top recruit would go there... It's a Fu

"What up? We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion. Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things." Again, NOTHING SEXUAL

"I'd rather jerk off a tiger in a phone booth than draft Cam"
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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 26, 2012 7:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not sure why a top recruit would go there... It's a dumpster fire

A shell of a cheating formerly elite program.. The NCAA is going to hit them too. Tyriq accord already made a horrible choice going there, now the 6’5 lb jhc from gawja might make the same mistake. Tbh I hope he goes there and stays out of the SEC, I just don’t understand why he would. I would cheer for joy if gawja lost it’s prize trophy this year (and guarantee he will not reach his potential at Miami, like many before him)

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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 26, 2012 7:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It's a different coaching staff.

Look at the unwanted kids Golden turned into NFL players at Temple. He develops players, unlike Shannon.

As for it being a dumpster fire – if they hit Miami hard then they’re going to have to burn several programs to the ground. They’ve done nothing but comply with the investigation – hell they even self imposed a ban for the bowl game.

I too hope more kids stay out of the $EC.

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by OldhamA on Jan 26, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said

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by Vagus on Jan 26, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

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