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An Updated Panther Mock

Hey all. It has been a while since I checked in with any kind of mock draft recently and as I have a little break from school today, I figured I would stop by with an idea I had for the Panthers. I hope you enjoy.

That being said, although I feel that the Panthers could find a very god player at 8/9, I will propose a trade back situation here. The trade back I propose is with the Bengals, as many have done before. This deal involves their 1.17 pick from Oakland, along with their 3rd & 4th round pick and next year's 2nd. While this may seem a bit much, most future picks are devalued by a round, meaning that if it were this year we would be considering it a 3rd, and with the new slotting system I feel that the value for higher picks is now greater than before. If this scenario comes true it leaves us with picks 1.17, 2.09, 3.21, 4.09, 4.21, 5.09, 6.09, and 7.09. Here is my idea of how that could play out:

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1.17 - Michael Brockers - DT - LSU - This pick I debated for a while. At this pick Brockers, Brown, Kirkpatrick, Still, Jenkins, and others could all still be available. This explains why I normally do multiple scenarios, but I chose to pick Brockers in this one because I feel he has immense potential and his weaknesses are things that can be fixed with coaching. His big problem is not his attitude or work ethic, but rather keeping is 6'6 frame low to the ground upon the snap. This is correctable, and I think that given a chance to work in rotation with Edwards, McClain, and others, he will be able to develop into a potential pro bowl caliber player.

2.09 - Mark Barron - SS - Alabama - The best overall safety in the class. While he doesn't have great potential, he is solid in all areas and could prove to be a good long term piece in an area that we could use. Some have him in the 1st round, which is understandable, and if he is gone then I am looking at players like Burfict (yes a MLB), Minnifield, Curry, or possibly Ta'amu.

3.21 - Trumaine Johnson - CB - Montana - A small school player, but likely the best of them, Johnson has the size at 6'2 204 and excels in 1 on 1 situations. Not a burner but solid all-around speed. He has been on the radar for a while and was recruited to Pac-12 schools out of High School, but decided to attend Montana. One of my favorite sleepers of the draft who could continue to move up draft boards

4.09 - Brian Quick - WR - App State - After going defense with the first 3 picks I decided it was time to provide Cam with another weapon. Quick is a name we all are familiar with around here and one that I think could blossom into a very good target in the NFL. He has the size and the hands and the main question is how well he can gain separation. He could prove a lot with a good showing at the Senior bowl this week.

4.21 - Lardarius Green - TE - Louisiana-Lafayette - A tall (6'6) and very athletic pass catching TE, Green finished the season very strong with 29 catches, 370 yds, and 3 TD's in his last 4 games. After the season of great TE play we have seen around the league a player like this will be a valued commodity and may cause him to rise. While we have Olsen, cap restrictions may not allow us to bring back Shockey unfortunately. If not, Green could step up in his place and even if we were to bring back Shockey, there may not be a better guy for Green to learn from.

5.09 - Cliff Harris - CB - Oregon - An amazing returner and ball hawk, Harris has red-flags which cause him to fall a lot. If his attitude can be straightened out he could be a great player in the long run. Personally I think he could learn a lot from Cam, as having watched a lot of Pac-12 football as a huge UW fan, he plays with swagger, something many Panther fans want to see more of, but if he learns to control when and where he could be great. A CB group of Gamble, Hogan, Captain, Johnson, and Harris is one full of potential and solid players. One that I would love to see.

6.09 - Marcus Forston - DT - Miami - The potential for Forston to drop this far is decent after the injury that held him out all last year. While some may question double dipping at DT, this is the 6th round, and taking a flyer on a guy who was considered a round 1 type player if not for an injury is great value at this point, and something we see Hurney do quite a bit.

7.09 - Matt McCants - OT - Alabama-Birmingham - Another guy with a lot of potential but coming from a small school, McCants has an opportunity this week at the Senior Bowl to move up on boards. His draft stock right now is as high as the 4th round but could also be found undrafted. McCants has good size (6'7) but is fairly lean at only 295. He proved his worth controlling Vinny Curry when they played Marshall. There is a good chance he may not be available at this pick, but if he is he has the potential to be a solid regular for the Panthers with time.

I think, as a Panther fan, if this is the way the draft were to play out, I would be very happy. You get a very high end potential DT, followed with a solid NFL SS, and then a well-regarded small school CB, an in state WR with great potential, a high ceiling TE, another high ceiling CB, a DT who could have been a 1st round pick had it not been for injury, and a high ceiling small school OT. We not only gain depth at positions of need, but also players who can start at those positions for years to come, not to mention a possible 2nd round pick next year in the trade.

I would love to hear everyone's thoughts.

Poll
What grade would you give this draft?
A
23 votes
B
47 votes
C
22 votes
D
8 votes
F
4 votes

104 votes | Poll has closed

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I like it alot

Brockers, Barron and Quick. That’d be a great draft, not to mention Green and Harris.

"What do you want to say to those critics now?"
"Just sit back and watch the show." -Cam Newton

by Smitty89 on Jan 23, 2012 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

Early reports from the Senior Bowl practices....

is that Quick has struggled and is being outclassed. His route running has been poor and he also has dropped passes. If he keeps this up, he’ll be available in later rounds.

by Derek Leazer on Jan 23, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i think he is way to slow

he never gets past the coverage, he just gets the jump balls

I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was

by pcroadrage on Jan 23, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

jeeez what is up with people and brockers

ok we all saw what injuries did too the panthers all season! brockers isnt even that much of a impact player yet, we need depth on all sides. Dt is loaded even if not star studded what would happen to our d if gamble was out the season too scary.

by icedragon816 on Jan 23, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I am one of the few, if not the only one, that likes our D-Line

Johnson is one of the most consistent in the NFL and does much more than pass rush. Hardy did decent and he was in his first season as a starter and had ZERO offseason (motorcycle accident). Kieser came out of no where and looked fantastic. Edwards is not great, but has a very solid overall game, didnt have him last year. Shirley really impressed. Fua and McClain didnt look great but both were rookies who had to start day one without an offseason. Neblett is another player who isnt flashy but gets the job done.
We dont have a lot of stars but we have guys who have the ability to do what is needed of them. even if we have no changes our defense should be immensely better next year. Edwards, Beason, and TD will be back. all but one of our D-Linemen are 26 or younger and should get better.

I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was

by pcroadrage on Jan 23, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

Great draft… Love the trade love the picks

by rscott94 on Jan 23, 2012 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

Trading back would be great...

and I have a feeling that we may actually do just that when one of the top names drop a bit. I like Brockers a lot better at 17 instead of 9.

"Now I feel like I’m ready to come out of my shell. I know I have the talent to change this game, and I don’t see no ceiling. So I’m not knocking on the door, like tap-tap-tap. I’m gonna kick that door in, like SWAT." - Cam Newton.

by sgtx on Jan 23, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks guys.

Would love to hear some of the thoughts from the people who have voted C/D/F. I have the feeling the F’s may be trolling but the others I am interested in.

by tarheels24 on Jan 23, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Alot of people dont want to trade

I realy don’t understand why… but that may be a reason

I don’t see how you don’t like this draft, it helps our defense tremendously

by rscott94 on Jan 23, 2012 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

All the people

That want Blackmon. Don’t worry about it. This would be a phenomenal draft.

"What do you want to say to those critics now?"
"Just sit back and watch the show." -Cam Newton

by Smitty89 on Jan 23, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I voted B

But I considered C. I think your proposed trade is more realistic than the 2 first rounders and like these picks but I don’t think they represent best value for our team. I think a WLB (Spence or Acho) in the 3rd or 4th & a punter in later rounds are pretty important.

"One step at a time"

by mcdonaldwr on Jan 23, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I think

Brockers is going to impress and rise into the top 10 but im not convinced that Claiborne or Blackmon wont be there every year theres been a crazy draft reach and its allowed a good player to slip a bit and i hope one would slip to us. As for our second round pick if hes somehow still there Jenoris Jenkins out of Southern Alabama (and Florida). Hes got 1st round potential he’s not the bad kid he was a Florida hes gonna be a steal if not taken in the first few rounds!

Its CAMMY CAM TIME!!!!!

by Tedy_78 on Jan 23, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

Good B-

Would like to see an OLB in the mix somewhere and I doubt we would draft 3 DB’s, but I really hope we are able to trade back and gain some extra picks as you have done here.

by kittylover on Jan 23, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

I like it

But I feel like your taking to many small school guys. Plus I would take away the Forston pick one DT in this draft is enough. But I like the Brockers and Barron picks.

by TS BOBCAT on Jan 23, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Interestingly, Matt McCants....

had the weirdest measurable of the day, to me. His arms are 35 inches, which is off-the-charts long, but his hands are only 8 3/4 inches, which is small for any player, regardless of position.

by Derek Leazer on Jan 23, 2012 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

LaFell has tiny hands

i dont remember the measurement, but he had like the smallest hands in the draft

I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was

by pcroadrage on Jan 23, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

OT Matt McCants Of UAB Is 6-5 5/8, 309 (10-15 Pounds More Than Expected, Which Helps)

www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012.php

NC St. WR T. J. Graham (5-11 3/8, 182, 31 3/4 inch arms, 9 1/4 inch hands) looked good today, and runs a sub 4.4.

The problem with TE Ladarius Greeen is that he only weighs 237 pounds, at 6-5 3/4. Missouri TE Michael Egnew (6-5 1/4, 251, 32 1/4 inch arms, 9 3/4 inch hands), looks great, and could tempt the Panthers in the 4th round if Shockey isn’t re-signed.

DT’s Derek Wolfe (6-4 7/8, 286, 32 7/8 inch arms, 10 3/4 inch hands) who weighed around 15 pounds less than expected, and Mike Martin’s (6-1 1/4, 307, 29 7/8 inch arms, 9 1/8 inch hands) very short arms, probably saw their draft stock take big hits.

CB/S Trumaine Johnson’s draft stock could take a hit after turning down an invitation to the Senior Bowl raises a red flag (could he have been afraid he couldn’t pass a drug test?).

I love the pick of Chris Harris, he fills 2 huge panthers needs, for a punt returner (4 punt return TD’s in 2010), and needing more ints., so the risk is worth it.

by PanthersRoar on Jan 23, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I really would love this.

I think Barron may go in the 1st though..

by jojoisthemann on Jan 23, 2012 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

Regardless of what we do with our first pick, I hope we take an OLB in the 2nd.

… I don’t care for the Quick pick (just don’t think he’s an upgrade). On the flip-side, I really like the upside of Trumaine Johnson, especially in the 3rd/4th round.

So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.

by Rick Bates on Jan 23, 2012 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

Not trying to sound rude with this.

But people have entirely too much of a fascination with App State. Yes they beat Michigan that one time and yes they are always a contender for the D-2 National Title. But other than Armanti being on our roster I can’t think of a single App St player thats prominent in the NFL off the top of my head. I feel like With AE on the roster it would be drafting two of the same thing and there are way better options available at WR from programs that are a lot bigger than App. Any of the three Arkansas receivers will be available (Jarius Wright, Joe Adams, Greg Childs) and under Bobby Petrino’s passing explosion they have way much more ability and talent then Quick.

by hunter.stuckey1 on Jan 24, 2012 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

One thing...

App State isn’t D-2..they’re FCS, which used to be Division 1-AA. There is a difference between D-2 and 1-AA.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

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by BW Smith on Jan 24, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats Right

Sorry, had a mind lapse. My apologies.

by hunter.stuckey1 on Jan 24, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You don't have to apologize to me, I didn't go to App St.

But I figured I’d let you know as an fyi because if you call App St. a D-2 school too many times the App St. crowd will start to get rowdy, lol.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

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by BW Smith on Jan 24, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

As someone who is not an App State guy.

And really not even from the state, I feel my pick is just because of the potential he does hold that late in the draft. I will admit I am more aware of him because of some of the App State guys here, but my research was done individually.

I believe you are right in some cases, but this particular one it is not because of homerism or anything of the sort.

by tarheels24 on Jan 24, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not just Appstate

There are a lot of FCS players that perform well in the NFL. The reason we hear about Appstate so much is because of it’s proximity to Charlotte and our team. As far as Appstate players specifically there are 5 right now. Corey Lynch is a safety (great ST’s player), D.J. Smith is an ILB for Green Bay who started several games for an injured linebacker. I only got to see one of those games but thought he played pretty well (definitely needs to add some size). There are a couple other guys who are projects (Kilgore, guard for 49ers) and I don’t know/care for much to be honest.

"One step at a time"

by mcdonaldwr on Jan 24, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

While I think a trade with Cincinnati isn't feasible...

http://www.catscratchreader.com/2012/1/19/2720168/blogger-round-table-oroy-newton-or-dalton

I rated this draft a B, for the variety, and the solid depth, as well as talent provided.

Cam Newton, when a reporter asks him who will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday: "I'll tell you Sunday."

by Son of a Newton on Jan 24, 2012 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

Nah man, we're gonna trade back and pick up 4 firsts and 2 seconds for our pick.

That's our best option.

by JDeLong42 on Jan 24, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

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