The Draft: BPA vs. Team Need. The ongoing debate.
Ok, forgive me if this overkill on this debate. It seems we are so hung up over the argument here at CSR about whether we should draft the absolute best player available with our pick, or lean toward a definite team need and strengthen a weak spot on our team. I see most people on one side or the other, when the two actually are not mutually exclusive. GM's almost always say they are going to pick the best player available. What they mean is that they are picking the BPA for their team. Team needs are weighted heavily when drafting. Every team ranks players based on their scouting of individual players from best to worst. When it comes to picking during the draft, other factors weigh into who a team picks, they don't just automatically take the next player on their board. Some more explanation below.
If you just drafted your franchise QB you don't draft another one. Yes, if for some reason A. Luck would fall to us at #9 we would still pick him. He would be the BPA. ( For the sake of the argument, please don't pick apart these example, they are only examples) We would draft him because he would be so far above the next BPA on our board that we would be forced to select him. Now what if T. Richardson falls to #9 and he is our BPA at the time? Do we take him? It gets a little dicier here. We certainly don't need him. If a team has a player rated so high on their board they should still take that player if they feel that the player clearly out ranks the position where they are drafting.
Some examples. Ryan Kalil is a good example from our team. We didn't NEED a center at the time, we would have been just fine by skipping him, but his ranking justified us taking him at that draft position. Aaron Rodgers is another example. The Pack didn't need a QB ( although Farve was getting old) Rogers fell so far, and was obviously so highly ranked on the Pack's draft board they had to take him.
What teams really do when drafting is similar to what many of us do in fantasy football drafts only on a much deeper level. They assign a draft value to a player. Lets say the following are the top three players available when we draft at #9.
( i.e. A Luck = 500, T Richardson = 350, D. Kirkpatrick=325 ) Understand that these are made up values to show a point.
Teams also take into account the value that they think they have at current positions.
(i.e. C. Newton= 495, D Williams/J Stewart= 375, C. Munnerlyn=200)
So if Luck falls to #9, even though we have Cam , we need to draft him because he is so much better than the other two top players on the board. With Richardson vs Kirkpatrick we would draft Kirkpatrick even though Richardson is the BPA because he isn't rated that much worse than Richardson, and he would be a big upgrade over our current 2nd CB.( Factors such as player age and contract status also go into the decision)
Here is a decent article that explains this concept in a little more detail.
This is also why teams decide to trade down in the draft. They feel that the BPA's at their spot don't significantly upgrade their current roster enough to draft that player at that position. They can get better VALUE ( and this is what is really ment by this term) for their team by moving down in the draft and getting the BPA at a lower draft slot that significantly upgrades a position on their roster. ( as well as adding an additional pick that can upgrade their roster)
It's also important to note that the BPA is mostly debated for players in the early rounds because it is so hard to predict who the BPA is in the later rounds. Thus you see a lot of teams draft for need to fill holes in later rounds or take a flyer on a player that they clearly think is the BPA and has fallen way to far in the draft.
Their are some other factors that GM's take into account when drafting that increases the value of certain prospects.
When Michael Vick was with the Falcons it made sense to increase the value of T Davis to have someone to help spy Vick. When Houston drafted Mario Williams over Reggie Bush they were in need of a pass rush to slow down Peyton Manning.These players may not have been ranked as the BPA on most teams boards but based on the respective team needs they got a higher grade.
This is the real debate we should be having. How good do we think the BPA will be at our draft slot, and what position on our team could have the biggest upgrade by drafting a certain player at our draft slot.
Do we need an OL if a great one is available? By drafting Brockers do we upgrade our DT's enough? Do we need secondary help enough to draft Kirkpatrick to help stop the new passing heavy NFL? How good is our pass rush really? Do we need an upgrade over Hardy? Is he good enough?
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If and that is a very big if Luck fell to us...
Hurney would have teams eating out of the palm of his hand. Carolina would trade down and grab a pick for the third round. At the very least there are six teams needing a franchise QB. I understand your BPA argument but I really feel Carolina may deviate from that plan at least in the first round. However, since there are multiple areas in need of improvement, BPA would probably factor in and is used to determine the first pick.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 23, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions
Great post, but you nearly lost me at the 3rd paragraph.
I’m gonna guess a draft-caused mental meltdown because you got the name of our center confused with his brother and misspelled the name too. Picky, I know, but it’s those kinds of errors that make me not take someone too serious when they’re trying to write up or talk about the team. But I did think it was pretty stupid how many people really didn’t get just what BPA means and actually thought that meant someone like Richardson could possibly be our pick.
Whoops, thanks
Yes thanks for the catch. I agree, a lot of little errors in a post give one pause as to whether much thought was put into the post.
"Now I feel like I’m ready to come out of my shell. I know I have the talent to change this game, and I don’t see no ceiling. So I’m not knocking on the door, like tap-tap-tap. I’m gonna kick that door in, like SWAT." - Cam Newton.
You made some nice points and I enjoyed your post.
Thanks for taking the time to give us an interesting, informative read.
TY
ty for the reply pantherboy76.
Really I am just venting on how much argument we see between a lot of us here and elsewhere on what is better. BPA or a team needs. Both are always taken into account depending on the team situation. Fortunately for us last year the need AND the BPA were closely matched enough that we drafted Cam.
"Now I feel like I’m ready to come out of my shell. I know I have the talent to change this game, and I don’t see no ceiling. So I’m not knocking on the door, like tap-tap-tap. I’m gonna kick that door in, like SWAT." - Cam Newton.
Yep good point.
And in both those cases the FO may have been trying to convince themselves that these players were the best player available that happened to coincide with their immediate needs.
You could argue that Clausen was a need pick that the FO tried to talk themselves into being the BPA. A few QB needy teams passed on him at the top of the second round. Showing that many thought he wasn’t as good as advertised.
Carruth was a definite misjudgement by the FO in terms of BPA at the time. The 97 team had a lot of positions they could have just picked the top player on the board and it would have payed off. Unfortunately they went with Carruth. Definition of a wasted pick.
"Now I feel like I’m ready to come out of my shell. I know I have the talent to change this game, and I don’t see no ceiling. So I’m not knocking on the door, like tap-tap-tap. I’m gonna kick that door in, like SWAT." - Cam Newton.
I like what you said at the end
what position on our team could have the biggest upgrade by drafting a certain player at our draft slot.
These are the real questions:
Do we believe that Steve Wilks can put Sherrod back on the path to enlightenment?
Is Hogan a #2?
Can TD stay healthy? If not, can Jordan Senn’s big hustle play hold up for an entire season?
Does any combination of the DT revolving door provide us with reliable starters (not just potential — which is what essentially everyone of these questions are about)
Can Greg Hardy be more than just a pass rusher?
I stuck to the defense here because it was easier. Rivera knows what our biggest need is and will get a baller with those first 2 picks. Can’t wait to see who it is.
"One step at a time"
The BPA at pick 8 or 9 will be Poe or Brockers
So early to talk draft right now. Just wait until the Draft Combine and people get a good look at DT Dontari Poe from Memphis, they will go crazy over him. There will be teams in the top five that will consider taking. Dude is a theletic freak 5th strongest man in college football

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