Breakdown of Michael Brockers Georgia Tape
There's been quite a bit of debate over whether or not to select LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers with our first round selection this April. Proponents of the pick say Brockers has the potential to be a top ten player at his position in the league, he is 6'6, 306 at only the age of 21 and has plenty of room to grow. Detractors argue that we need an immediate impact player and Brockers is too raw, not to mention we have a full stable of DT's that doesn't need a new addition. CSR user Efury posted some tape of Michael Brockers in the SEC championship game against Georgia, and it garnered some mixed opinions. Most of what was said though was general overviews of the tape, I didn't see anyone really break it down play-by-play and show the results. So here goes.
1st Q, 13:53-Brockers is double teamed and stood up in the middle, as the QB Aaron Murray dumps off to the RB in the flat.
1st Q, 13:30-Brockers is taken by the guard one on one, Murray steps up into a clean pocket and finds a receiver open deep down field.
1st Q, 13:00-Lined up at LDT, Brockers rushes from the offensive right and is double teamed. Murray overthrows a quick outcut to his left.
1st Q, 12:54-Shotgun, another quick pass to the RB over the middle. Brockers attempts a swim move against the RG with little success.
1st Q, 11:44-Next possession, Georgia up 3-0. Brockers swims past the guard initially, then is stood up by the tackle, then raises his arm into the passing lane. Murray overthrows a ten yard out badly.
1st Q, 11:39-Brockers is double teamed and blocked down out of the hole, running back is tackled for a loss because FB misses the end.
1st Q, 9:05-Brockers gets high and the guard is able to handle him, however he swims out and shows good pursuit of Murray forcing him to get rid of the ball.
1st Q, 8:57-Does a good job of getting past the OT and working towards where he thinks the ball is, however it's a reverse that he fails to see and goes right by him. He does continue to pursue the play however which is tackled for a loss.
1st Q, 6:02-Blown out of the hole by the guard, too high, good gain on the play.
1st Q, 5:30-Double teamed and washed out of the hole, four yard gain.
1st Q, 5:03-Interesting spin move,good awareness to recognize play-action, short pass completed to the FB
1st Q, 3:12-Holds his ground, works laterally down the line to tackle the RB for a minimal gain.
1st Q, 2:39-Excellent burst off the line, the RG blocking down can't get to him. If he stays on his feet he probably tackles the RB for a loss, instead the back breaks some tackles for a good gain.
1st Q, 2:05-Works around the edge well, very active hands, forces Murray to step up where he's hit by another rusher.
1st Q, 1:57-Chipped by the T, the TE blocks down on him, resets the LOS, can't get to the back who gains around five.
1st Q, 1:11-Gets past the single team with a good swim move, however Murray gets rid of it downfield for a good gain
2nd Q, 12:45-Play is run away from him, makes decent initial progress against a double team.
2nd Q, 12:02-Short yardage, FB dive. Brockers can't make any headway against the guard after being chipped by the center.
2nd Q, 11:28-Holds up the point of attack, spin move away once he recognizes bootleg, however play is killed quickly.
2nd Q, 10:48-Pushes the guard into the backfield, but can't get off the block to make the tackle.
2nd Q, 9:56-Good hand use to get past guard, center washes him past the QB who overthrows the back in the flat.
2nd Q, 8:15-Holds the POA while moving laterally, effectively blows this play up. Credited with an assist here i think.
2nd Q, 7:34-Play is initially run away from Brockers, but the back cuts it back to him. Brockers holds his ground against the guard and works off the block to swallow the ball carrier.
2nd Q, 6:56-Beats the guard with a swim to the outside, the end beats him to the QB though by stutter-stepping the tackle
2nd Q, 5:36-Backs the guard back towards the QB, Murray gets rid of it downfield to a receiver who can't handle it through contact.
2nd Q, 5:30-Double teamed, but continues to work towards the QB. Murray does a good job of stepping up and getting rid of it moments before Brockers spins free towards him.
2nd Q, 4:56-Same situation, only it's a quick pass into the flat. No one on the DL has time to get to the QB.
2nd Q, 1:42-Brockers must have seen something on film here, because immediately after the snap he works to the outside and completely obliterates the screen play.
2nd Q, 1:11-Splits the double team and nails the back for a two yard loss. Excellent play by Brockers,
3rd Q, 14:55-LSU started to wake up around this time, and you can definitely see it in Brockers play. Re-establishes the LOS, moves laterally while holding his ground against the guard, and tackles the back for a minimal gain.
3rd Q, 14:27-Double teamed, knocked backwards and down to the ground. Rest of the DL tackles the back for no gain however.
3rd Q, 13:43-One-on-one with the center, Brockers is initially neutralized, with an ineffective spin that is reminiscent of Everette Brown. However he throws the center aside once Murray starts scrambling and pursues, catching up to him and forcing a fumble that LSU recovers about ten yards downfield.
3rd Q, 12:46-LSU is up 14-10 now, play action bootleg, Brockers again recognizes the play quickly and spins away towards the QB and the ball. Murray is too deep for Brockers to get to him before he releases a pass however.
3rd Q, 12:42-Brockers is in the middle of the line, gradually pushes his man backwards and gets into Murray's throwing lane, who misses an open receiver.
3rd Q, (there were apparently technical difficulties as the clock just says 3rd)-Brockers is working against the right side of the line, and all three players hit him at some point. He still manages to jump up and get a hand in Murray's throwing lane, forcing him to go to the other side of the field.
3rd Q, ()-Brockers shows good speed in pursuit on the pitch, eliminating the cutback lane. The lead FB sees him chasing and turns back to chip him, stopping him from reaching the back. Brockers continues to chase and helps finish the play.
3rd Q, ()-Lines up at end, attempts to speed rush and get outside, the tackle washes him by and Murray escapes out that hole and is tackled by a pursuing Honey Badger after a short gain.
3rd Q, 8:17(samepossession)-Pushes the guard back into the pocket, gets a hand up as murray unleashes a pass deep downfield to a WR in tight coverage that's slightly underthrown.
3rd Q, 3:10-Same situation, only this time Brockers bats the pass down.
3rd Q, 3:06-Beats the guard to the outside, however Murray gets rid of it quickly on a slant route.
4th, 11:32-Attempts a bull rush, isn't very successful, tries to swim outside, is washed away by the guard as Murray delivers a pass deep downfield.
4th 10:50-Rushes forward and is initially neutralized. Before going to his secondary move Murray takes off, Brockers can't get off the block to make the tackle, looks like he's being held though.
So in summary, Brockers showed me some very good flashes here. I feel very comfortable in him stepping in and solidifying our rotation of DT's. He can play either the 3 or the 5, giving us flexibility with our 3-4 looks. He shows good ability to penetrate and collapse the pocket, along with what I think is crucial to stopping Brees, batting balls. He does tend to get high, but shows good strength on other plays to hold his ground. As he develops i think we'll see less of this. It may take a year, but i'm more than comfortable that Rivera can coach him up into a top ten DT.
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Great breakdown here, Rec'ing the post.
This reinforces my observations about him. He is making some highly coachable mistakes, but is not making them in spades. This is impressive for a guy who really just got his first full starting gig this year, against the best teams (and subsequently some of the best OLs) in college football.
The main things we can learn from this breakdown:
-Never quits on a play, to me this is one of the most important things to look for in a DT.
-Knows to get his hands up in the passing lanes, and use his height advantage to bat down or disrupt passes
-Commands a double team or at least a block/chip combo on every play
-Very good play recognition reflecting aptitude in the film room
To me, for being so young as far as his football experience, he shows an amazing amount of knowledge of how to play his position. He needs some technique refinement, but to be a first year starter that consistently blows up plays in the SEC is a great checkmark on his resume. He will get stronger, and will be able to smooth out the rough edges in the pro game.
I still give him my ringing endorsement to be our first round pick.
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Great post.
Question I have for you based on your scouting report:
1) Did his body of work justify a top 10 draft pick?
2) Is he that much better than last year’s rookies and/or Neblett?
by pantheredgar on Jan 21, 2012 8:58 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Fantastic answers.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Jan 21, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
accurate ones
he definitely has potential to be great but he is to raw to help us right now. He will take 3 years to mature and we already have a stable of young DTs trying to grow. If he is available in the 2nd then i would take him no doubt, but not in the first
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by pcroadrage on Jan 21, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
1] bullshit.
2] disagree.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Jan 21, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
IMO, No he did/is not.
If we are going to draft BPA, Brockers is not the pick.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 21, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I also commend the post, and the work put into it. Play-by-play analyses are hard work, aren't they, FW?
1) His potential, maybe – his body of work: ‘No.’
2) Better than last year’s rookies, yes – not better than Neblett, or Shirley (who’s the REAL comparison), IMO.
I’d jump all over him as a 2nd round pick, but I still think we have more glaring needs to be addressed with our first pick.
by bigdavis on Jan 21, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I give the work two Super Squirrels up.
gave a real informitive impression on how the kid played.
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In one game.
Remember all the discussion we had here, last year, about “small sample size” production, from the DTs that some were recommending for our #1 pick?
One game is indeed a small sample.
very true I was not saying I was hight up on the kid.
It sounds weird but I have little trust in measurables but even less in “Big school” lineman. Some one posted it earily and I agree with the question “How much is his numbers his talant vrs team.”
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I’d jump all over him as a 2nd round pick, but I still think we have more glaring needs to be addressed with our first pick.
Exactly. I think the developmental guys are better suited for later rounds, especially with our needs.
by LuvMeSomePanthers! on Jan 21, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I can answer the second one.
I think his potential is miles higher than any DT on the roster. Mclain has some good interior pressure skills, Neblett gives excellent effort, Shirley was impressive in a limited time, Kearse and Fua are big bodies. Brockers would immediately be the best DT on our roster imo, he can hold his ground better than them and looks to have comparable pass rush technique. He looks very smart, and has the same type of high effort plays of Neblett and Kearse. I hear a lot of people saying we need an immediate impact player with our first round pick, I disagree. We need to HIT on the pick. Kalil took a while to make his presence felt, and we already had a solid center when we drafted him. Only difference between the two situations imo is draft slot.
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by Flowing Willow on Jan 22, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Good stuff. I FP'd it.
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awesome.
More stuff for the resume. :D
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by Flowing Willow on Jan 22, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Good stuff
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by TheWhite Mamba on Jan 21, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
The one thing that he has and that can not be coached is measurables.
Haveing a 6’6 guy as a DT will cuase havoc with throwing lanes. I am am all for getting a DT that is good, but we have had over the years many projects that never get of the ground. Still if all he does is hold his ground himself and takes ups two line man that would be worth drafteing him high so long as he knows to raise his hands to bat the ball lol. Also Peppers use to line up on STs to block kicks and that too would be and advantage of getting a guy.
With that said I say measurabales mean little, give me a guy with Smittys heart at DT and we have a winner lol.
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My problem is, while he showed flashes, he didn't dominate the College competition.
I think that a lot of Brocker’s perceived successes occurred because of the strength of the LSU defense. Brockers had a solid LB Corps along with Morris Claiborne, Honey Badger, and Eric Reid behind him. Not to mention, he racked up 5.5 of his TFL’s in blowouts against, Northwestern State, Ole Miss, Florida, and Auburn. Meanwhile, in his two games against Alabama, he managed 0.5 TFL.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 21, 2012 11:23 AM EST reply actions
True
but remember the Honey Badger didn’t fare much better and he is considered a top tier player and DB.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 21, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
True, but I don't think the Honey Badger will be worth a first round pick next year. He's too short to play corner.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 21, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
That may be
But there is always an overzealous coach trying for that defensive home run so we will see
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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 21, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yep.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 22, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I saw the game, therefore I did not read your breakdow
One thing you did say that caught my attention:
Brockers is too raw
I seem to remember another guy some people described as “raw”. So far, I think he has worked out just fine.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 21, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions
Reminds me of the discussions predraft on Jason Pierre Paul.
From NFL Draft 101 on Jason Pierre Paul
* Raw – Only one year of Division I football. A junior college transfer in 2009
* Gets by too much on natural talent at this stage
* Overaggressive at times
* Lacks discipline as a run defender
* Needs to develop more pass rush moves
* Only had 5.5 sacks, a low total for an top pass rusher
* Will be drafted on athleticism and potential – Lots of raw talent but still needs to polish his game.
http://www.nfldraft101.com/draft/profiles/player/259044/Jason_Pierre-Paul.jsp
I like the idea of having a talented,physical giant in the passing lane. I know the comparison is not completely the same with JPP but the knock on him predraft was he was raw talent with little D1 experience and low sack production his last year, but great size , speed and raw talent with high ceiling.
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by Bruce Guild on Jan 22, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
something i never want to hear in a pick i like
Reminiscent of everette brown.
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by LimeyPanther on Jan 21, 2012 12:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Good reminder LP.
When you are drafting in the top ten you need a player that is going to be on the field and ready to make an impact for your team’s improvement. I am not in favor with drafting a player that is going to take time to fill out. That is not the position our team is in. We need more certain players that we know that can contribute sooner than later.
That's the assessment I make.
Your #1 has to be one of 2 things:
1) an immediate starter, superior to all others on your team at his position, or
2) possessed of such obvious raw potential, that it’s an easy case to make that professional coaching and one year, max, of experience, will result in #1 above.
That’s how the brain trust will make their selection, of Brockers, Dre, or somebody else.
Competition. Competition and depth at the DT spot. That is where I stand on it. But for me, I’d rather draft Poe. Brockers will be tasked with two jobs: Getting to the QB and playing the run along the way. Few can do it, and even fewer do it in the first 2 or 3 years of their careers. Poe, on the other hand, will be asked to do one job—be the anchor. And I have seen him do it over and over again and he is very good at it.
At least sure up one thing. The payoff may be help in two areas with Brockers, but the downside could ultimately be help in none.
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I think the second reason fits Brockers to a T.
I can easily see Rivera turning him into one of the best players at his position in the game. We do have a full stable at DL, but so do the Giants. A dominant DL matched with our firepower on offense will make us a VERY tough team to beat.
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by Flowing Willow on Jan 22, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
We can make a push for the playoff’s next year if we get immediate help on defence, part of that will be the return of our injured players (But ligament injuries can rear their ugly heads time and again) but we need some players to make an impact now. Really excited for next year, love the coaching staff (hope to god we keep chud) and the energy about the team right now
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by LimeyPanther on Jan 21, 2012 1:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He is NOTHING like E Brown
He clearly has more moves than just a spin. He also isn’t undersized.
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Yeah i grimaced when i saw that.
However unlike Brown he has several other moves he uses, he’s just not quick enough to use the spin move effectively except when he’s redirecting towards a bootleg.
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by Flowing Willow on Jan 22, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Ya know, the more and more we talk about Brockers (or any DT)
The more and more I’m reminded that Rivera said that DT wasn’t as big a need as some people were thinking. That in turn means one of two things:
1) Our current players are (or will be) better than we think they are
2) We have much bigger needs elsewhere (Safety, CB, etc).
I’m inclined to believe it’s more of the latter than the former so I’m really not sure we will be drafting a DT first. Or even at all (unless one falls way far).
by aceofsween on Jan 21, 2012 1:49 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Good point
If Carolina takes a DT in this draft, it will more likely be in the later rounds a BPA
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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 21, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
thank you, thank you, thank you...
I agree. If were good at dt then were good at dt! It came straight from the dragons mouth. I hope we go after OLB Upshaw because IMO he would have an immediate impact because Thomas Davis isn’t going to be brought back. Face it t.d. fans its a new era.
by willhmx04 on Jan 21, 2012 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Upshaw is a straight up 3-4 Rush OLB, he wouldn't really work in our 4-3 set.
But I agree, we should look into the OLB’s in the first couple of rounds.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 21, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Rivera stated that they will remain a 4-3 base
defense, but will use some 3-4.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 21, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I just hope what Rivera said isn't based on speculation
That we aren’t writing this off as a Need just because we need to “get healthy”
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I like Brockers
Massive frame, lots of talent, versatile.
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Raiders.....
Raiders will take him in the first given his athletic ability. Oh wait, they are out of 1st round picks!
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One from the Packers’ front office. If he learned under Ted Thompson, who may be the best GM in all of sports, he’s probably pretty good.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 21, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
and Al Davis passed away
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They don't have a pick until round 5 IIRC.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 22, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I would say Brockers is the best DLineman in the draft already, and his ceiling is appealing.
At this point, I’m of a mind that if we go DL, I hope it’s Brockers.
If we go OL, I’m hoping for Reiff … Decastro will be a star guard, but I’m ready to grab Otah’s replacement (even if Otah stays healthy, he’s a free agent next year). I’d start Reiff at RT, move Otah inside to RG. Eventually, I could see Reiff as Gross’ successor at LT.
DB? Not much chance to get Claiborne, but Dre K would be a decent consolation prize … IF his off field antics can be contained.
LB? I don’t see an impact WLB worth a top 20 pick at this point. Zach Brown, Travis Lewis, Lavonte David… we could pick one of these guys up in the 2nd as TD insurance.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
I can't recall where I read it, but the guy that coached Stroud and Henderson in college said he'd take the two LSU DTs over them.
The praise doesn’t get any higher.
If our staff is convinced they can unleash this guy on the NFL like they have done with Newton then draft him.
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