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Coin Flip to Determine Whether Panthers Pick 8th or 9th

So we still don't know when exactly the Panthers will pick in the 2012 draft. With a little Luck we could pick 8th or at worst 9th. At either spot we are certain to get a shot at a good player and that I leave in Marty Hurney's capable hands. So who should flip the coin for the Panthers? Hurney? JR? Cam?

Here's the top 20 draft order with strength of schedule calculations, after the jump to save FP space

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2012 NFL Draft Order: Top 20 Picks

Order Team Record Schedule strength
1. Indianapolis Colts 2-14 .539
2. St. Louis Rams 2-14 .590
3. Minnesota Vikings 3-13 .559
4. Cleveland Browns 4-12 .531
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 4-12 .551
6. Washington Redskins 5-11 .477
7. Jacksonville Jaguars 5-11 .500
8/9. Carolina Panthers* 6-10 .504
8/9. Miami Dolphins* 6-10 .504
10. Buffalo Bills 6-10 .520
11/12. Kansas City Chiefs* 7-9 .512
11/12. Seattle Seahawks* 7-9 .512
13. Arizona Cardinals 8-8 .469
14. Dallas Cowboys 8-8 .473
15. Philadelphia Eagles 8-8 .488
16. New York Jets 8-8 .500
17. Oakland Raiders 8-8 .504
18. San Diego Chargers 8-8 .516
19. Chicago Bears 8-8 .527
20. Tennessee Titans 9-7 .563

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Thanks for posting this Jaxon.

Yesterday I put up a FanShot saying the Panthers would select at the 8th pick. Carolina and Miami were tied in Win-Loss and Strength-of-Schedule so I went to a source for the NFL Draft tie-breakers.

After Win-Loss and Strength-of-Schedule the tiebreakers were listed as Division Records and then Conference Records. This led me to believe that the Panthers would select before the Dolphins. I later saw a reference to the tie requiring a coin toss. I went to the NFL site and the Division Record and Conference Record tie-breaks are only applicable when the teams are in the same Division or Conference.

Sorry for the misinformation in my FanSpot and hope I will be forgiven.

"I may be old but...eh, I forget the rest!"

by GooseCreek on Jan 2, 2012 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

NOOOOO!!!

I DEMAND A LIFETIME BAN!!!!!!…..or a Bojangles Cajun Filet Biscuit

by Alex Helms on Jan 2, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I demand a lifetime ban AND a Bojangles Cajun Filet Biscuit!

by JDeLong42 on Jan 2, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I demand to know what a Bojangles Cajun Filet Biscuit is!

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Jan 2, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That looks inedible.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Jan 2, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It fucking delicious

Especially when you get it with seasoned fries

by rscott94 on Jan 2, 2012 3:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

why is it called a buscuit?

It looks like a chicken burger. Also thanks to the slightly ridiculous ‘man vs food’ I now understand what a kaiser roll is. Not so sure about a kaiser blade.

Save us Pilares

by LimeyPanther on Jan 2, 2012 3:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Because

It’s a biscuit with chicken it therefore a Chicken Biscuit

by rscott94 on Jan 2, 2012 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

that aint a biscuit

It sure don’t look like a chocolate bourbon anyway. I’m confused, do you guys call a bread bin a biscuit?

Save us Pilares

by LimeyPanther on Jan 2, 2012 6:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

hmm

As I recall biscuit means something different in England…. more like what we’d call a cookie or a scone.

A Bojangles biscuit is a fluffy, flakey, buttery piece of delicious. Cut that bad boy in half, slap a cajun-breaded breast filet in there and you’ve got yourself a breakfast.

by Floods on Jan 2, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Claiborne will be gone by 8 or 9..................

so right now I like Dre Kirkpatrick as the pick. No doubt we need Defense players bad. I like Taamu at DT in the 2nd.

by magicman56 on Jan 2, 2012 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

I'd be happy with Kirkpatrick

He could possibly be moved to safety. He would probably be an upgrade over Martin. Has Kirkpatrick ever handled punt returns? It would be awesome to find a DB / Punt Returner all-in-one.

Either way, I’m pretty confident that Hurney will land a good player at #8 or #9.

by cj5 on Jan 2, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Let’s just say you wouldn’t want to see Kirkpatrick return a punt.

"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."

by FirstCat on Jan 2, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you, (or anyone else) think we would have to give up to move up and get Kalil?

I wouldn’t be opposed to trading up to get him. He is probably the only 1 I would trade up for. I wouldn’t give away any of next year’s picks though, unless it is like a third round..

STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!

by MrBernz on Jan 2, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

then we wont get him

Kalil would cost us our 1st and 2nd this year and next year as well in my opinion. Maybe a bit less next year but certainly two firsts

Save us Pilares

by LimeyPanther on Jan 2, 2012 2:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't want to trade up for anyone

That pretty much handcuffs us for the rest of this draft and would likely hinder us next year. We aren’t good enough to give away a big chunk of our draft for one player.

by JDeLong42 on Jan 2, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

Rec’d for the effort involved.

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by Tater596 on Jan 2, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Lol I must admit that’s kind of funny.. I’m not worried about the Fins picking ahead of us, since we need defense badly and with the Fins already having a solid defense I don’t see them picking defense. So I’m fine with the 8th or 9th pick. I think our picks in the first 2 rounds needs to be CB and OLB, 4th round we should take safety and 5th round a olineman.

Any solid mid price CB or LBs that will be free agents this year we could possibly sign?

by PantherTrain on Jan 2, 2012 12:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

im liking brown as our pick more and more

I know anderson has proved his worth this year but our depth at lb and cb has been decimated this year by injuries. I like cb or lb with the first pick… Bolster what we can in FA

Save us Pilares

by LimeyPanther on Jan 2, 2012 2:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Have you seen Brown play?

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Jan 2, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

of course not

I know next to nothing about college football. In fact I no nothing about college ball at all. I’ve just seen highlights but it works for ptrain so why not for me? to be fair I’ve seen some bad plays as well, he seems to over-commit a lot, is this a fair assessment? But to compensate he is just a beast. Who should I support in college football?? Any advice panther fans?

Save us Pilares

by LimeyPanther on Jan 2, 2012 3:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah...the dude was having a mammoth game against Nebraska until he got ejected (which was total bullshit).

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by BW Smith on Jan 2, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually completely agree with your draft priorities

That being said, we shouldn’t reach if need is not anywhere near BPA, but if the positions you mentioned are available for good value, I hope we jump on it.

by JDeLong42 on Jan 2, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol!

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D

by Revshawn on Jan 2, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Jan 2, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate something like this has to come down to a coin flip

But we’ll get an outstanding player either way.

"What do want to say to those critics now?"
"Just sit back and watch the show." -Cam Newton

by Smitty89 on Jan 2, 2012 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

Should be fun

I would select the toughest player on Board.

by LovePanthers on Jan 2, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

We need to trade down

get more picks, after the top 5 picks, I don’t see anyone outstanding.

by LovePanthers on Jan 2, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

We aren't in a position to trade back. And there will be tons of good players available at 8/9.

Cam Newton, when a reporter asks him who will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday: "I'll tell you Sunday."

by Son of a Newton on Jan 2, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see the Dolphins trying to trade up regardless where they pick

That is assuming they want a QB. Two of note are RGIII and Landry Jones. But its too early to say

Integrity first. Service before self. Excellence in all you do. -- USAF Core Values

by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 2, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

Watching the USC/Nebraska game

I don’t want to draft him but Jeffrey is looking good also CB Stephen Gillmore is playing great he’ll probably be available in the 2nd round of we don’t take one in the 1st

by rscott94 on Jan 2, 2012 2:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

He has a pick and a missed tackle.

Can he play safety?

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Jan 2, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Just got home and started watching

And he had a TFL and a INT….

by rscott94 on Jan 2, 2012 2:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He missed another TFL as well - went for the 'shoulder to the thigh' hit rather than wrapping up on a reverse.

Pet peeve – defensive players that can’t tackle.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Jan 2, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad

You’re right though… I agree

by rscott94 on Jan 2, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

and has had some great tackles man

"What up? We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion. Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things." Again, NOTHING SEXUAL

"I'd rather jerk off a tiger in a phone booth than draft Cam"
-Mel Kiper, Jr.

you guys are like a bunch of pirahnas
by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 2, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Alshon tearing up the hyped "dennard".. showing why he is better than Blackmon

"What up? We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion. Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things." Again, NOTHING SEXUAL

"I'd rather jerk off a tiger in a phone booth than draft Cam"
-Mel Kiper, Jr.

you guys are like a bunch of pirahnas
by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 2, 2012 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

Dennard isn't very good.

Not taking anything away from Jeffrey though – he’s had a hell of a football game, but the dude lining up across from him is a NB in waiting.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Jan 2, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

he is the #25 rated player of draft eligible players haha

He has shut down ppl all year I have heard

"What up? We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion. Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things." Again, NOTHING SEXUAL

"I'd rather jerk off a tiger in a phone booth than draft Cam"
-Mel Kiper, Jr.

you guys are like a bunch of pirahnas
by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 2, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Those ratings will change.

Go watch him play – bearing in mind I’m a guy that LOVES CBs that are under 6’.

Dennard doesn’t play bigger than his listed height – and I’d say he’s 5’8". He’s stocky, stiff and mediocre in run support. He’s basically Cpt Munnerlyn. Once he gets to the NFL and he’s not allowed to maul WRs on routes he’ll be f’ed.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Jan 2, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Oldham

Our players go for the big hit often (they are taught that way).. that is why it may appear he cannot tackle when he can

"What up? We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion. Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things." Again, NOTHING SEXUAL

"I'd rather jerk off a tiger in a phone booth than draft Cam"
-Mel Kiper, Jr.

you guys are like a bunch of pirahnas
by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 2, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

Then they're being badly coached.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Jan 2, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, I hate our secondaries coach but boy can he recruit

"What up? We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion. Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things." Again, NOTHING SEXUAL

"I'd rather jerk off a tiger in a phone booth than draft Cam"
-Mel Kiper, Jr.

you guys are like a bunch of pirahnas
by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

by MikeTrain on Jan 2, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

DE

I don’t watch a lot of College Football but I’ve heard he’s realy came alive this year

by rscott94 on Jan 2, 2012 3:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Clowney was rated as the top High School player in the country last year by several sources. He is a true freshman.

"I may be old but...eh, I forget the rest!"

by GooseCreek on Jan 2, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's Jevon Kearse/Julius Peppers hybrid myself.

Could end up being one of the best DE’s ever in NCAA history…he has that high of a ceiling.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Jan 2, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Dernard and Jeffery ejected

Idk why you throw punches at a helmet…..

by rscott94 on Jan 2, 2012 3:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Cos he's retarded.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Jan 2, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Cam Newton, when a reporter asks him who will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday: "I'll tell you Sunday."

by Son of a Newton on Jan 2, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I want Lavonte David in the second if possible. Dude is a tackling machine! If we got a CB in the first and David in the second, that would be a huge upgrade.

by JStewart28 on Jan 2, 2012 6:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

David is too small.

I’d like to see us go after D’ontari Poe, the DT from Memphis in the 2nd.

by RonnieHawkins97 on Jan 2, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

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