Dre Kirkpatrick arrested for marijuana possession
Potential 1st round pick Dre Kirkpatrick was arrested for possession of fewer than 20 grams of marijuana last night in Florida. This could potentially cause his draft stock to fall from what was almost a lock for the top-10 to the bottom of the first round, or worse -- out of the first round completely.
Hat tip to rscott94, who posted the link in a comment thread.
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I think it was planted on him...
So we could stop wanting to draft Kirkpatrick an shift our focus to Ashlon Jeffery….
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by Panther4Life!!! on Jan 17, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions
Big question about character
I guess we won’t be drafting him.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 17, 2012 3:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Brandon Hogan says hi.
And to a lesser extent, so does Cam.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 17, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
However, Brandon Hogan was a fourth round pick...
we could afford for him to turn out to be a potential pothead bust because the pick didn’t warrant much risk. Although, this is Kirkpatrick’s first offense that I’ve heard of regarding his conduct but it’s just stupid. Why would you get caught with weed at a time so close to the draft where it tends to reminisce upon people’s minds.
Cam was almost like a pressuring need because this franchise was in shambles and desperately looking for a franchise QB that could breath light back into it’s spirits. Everything checked out and thank god we got Cam but that situation is different because the need of such player IMO outweighed risk due to the circumstance. We don’t really NEED a CB in such a way.
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uhhhh....
Micheal Phelps is a pothead, you going to deny him.
by Panther-Brodes on Jan 17, 2012 11:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dude could clear any bog in the world LOL…talk about lung capacity…
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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 17, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
lol
Exactly, its marijuana people, atleast he wasent found in an ally way with a needle in his arm.
by Panther-Brodes on Jan 17, 2012 11:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Doubt we draft him anyway
Regardless, this doesn’t change my opinion of him any. Only difference between him and most of the draft class is he got caught.
The stigma of using weed is less than its ever been
We heard this last draft that if the NFL passed on every kid smoking week they would have few to pick from (and Tebow). Provided its a small amount and he wasn’t being reckless…the devil is in the details.
Not just the NFL
Could you imagine what the penal system would be like if everyone who ever smoked weed got caught doing it their first time?
The youth of our country would be decimated.
Considering 9 out of 10 drug arrests are for minor possession of pot IIRC, we're not too far off from seeing what its like lol
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Agreed the stigma is much less than years ago..
My issue is him getting caught. Doesn’t give me a good impression of his intelligence or decision making ability. That’s the reason he would fall pretty dramatically on my draft board. If you are going to break the law be smart at least.
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Lets draft him in the second round!
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You gotta be smarter than that Dre!! From when the season is over until draft day you are in the biggest job interview of your life! You can’t be making stupid choices at very inopportune times. Teams that were looking at him will probably be asking him about this a lot in combine interviews. Will be interesting to see what impact it has.
by JStewart28 on Jan 17, 2012 3:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It Was Doublely Dumb Of Dre, 6 Weeks Before The Combine It Might Have Shown Up On The Combine Drug Test
by PanthersRoar on Jan 17, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not
He’s got very little body fat which would slightly inhibit the retention of the metabolites in his system and with a very high metabolism he would probably be fine within two to three weeks of the test even if he is a chronic smoker. For normal people it takes about a month for it to clear your system if your a chronic smoker and less then a week if you only smoke every once in a while.
Nah it'd be out after 6 weeks
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by KaiserBromley on Jan 19, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
If you're smart you won't get caught
And that its illegal is ridiculous, but I digress…
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Here's my take...
(Note: It’s always been my take, and it will always be my take.)
Smoking pot is illegal. However, I couldn’t care less if anyone smokes it, so long as they don’t do it around my kids (one’s 7 and the other’s 3) or in my house (I don’t allow cigarette/cigar smoking in my house either due to my kid being allergic to smoke). Do I think it should be illegal? No, I don’t…but it’s not up to me. And, the people who decide what should be legal disagree with me (whether they’re right or wrong is irrelevant).
But anyway…if you want to smoke pot…go ahead and toke to your heart’s content. However, don’t be stupid and get caught, especially when you’re trying to get drafted by an NFL team. Don’t keep the shit in your car…keep it at home, and smoke it in the privacy of your own home…that way, you don’t get caught.
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by BW Smith on Jan 17, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
+1
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by Panther4Life!!! on Jan 17, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yup agree 100% BW. He will still get drafted now it is just a matter of where. Brandon Tate got busted for Pot and had a broke leg but still managed to get drafted by the Patriots in the 3rd round. Which is crazy considering the seriousness of his injury on top of drug charges
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Agreed!!!
Remember that “other guy” who got caught in Charlotte? I think we had even drafted him… Then sent him packing just as fast… BAMF don’t play those games… A lesson for ANYONE who wants to play in the NFL…
by MidnightDrifter on Jan 17, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
rec
Just saw your response, I had responded similarly above. Agree completely. This is why it is an issue for a team drafting him. Not the pot itself, the fact he got busted.
"Now I feel like I’m ready to come out of my shell. I know I have the talent to change this game, and I don’t see no ceiling. So I’m not knocking on the door, like tap-tap-tap. I’m gonna kick that door in, like SWAT." - Cam Newton.
???
Does this mean he will be available in the 2nd round now?
by MidnightDrifter on Jan 17, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions
Depends on how many teams think it's a huge deal.
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I doubt it
If he falls in the draft the Bengals or Cowboys would probably draft him
by rscott94 on Jan 17, 2012 3:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I personally have nothing against weed...
But fear it’s a BIG RED FLAG for BAMF and Co…
by MidnightDrifter on Jan 17, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Calvin Johnson got caught days before the draft. He still went #2 overall.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 17, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
The huge difference here
Is that Calvin Johnson didn’t get caught… he ADMITTED to past use of marijuana in pre-draft interviews (i.e. he was being honest).
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2842833
Huge difference between being upfront with NFL personnel asking you questions and getting arrested.
Gotcha, I was just going off of memory.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 18, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think Pats could end up drafting him. They always have a ton of picks need help in the secondary and they fell they can fix anybody(even though i think this isn’t a big deal)
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Right now it's not a big deal.
We don’t know how far it goes yet though. I personally don’t think there’s anything to it, as long as we don’t find out that Dre K is a Sam Hurd-like cartel or anything, lol.
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True...
But the Feds don’t come knocking at your door unless you’re doing some serious shit.
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lol hopefully you're not speaking from experience
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Nope!
I read an article about how there have been several people around the country that it’s happened to though.
They had an interview posted with one of them and the whole discussion by lawyers as to whether having no password is actually giving permission to use wi fi, and if so, whether he’s actually culpable.
Nothing like being dragged out on your face because you didn't have a wifi password...
fun times!
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May not fall to the 2nd
But if we choose to trade back and are able to, it may present yet another option for us when we pick, which is always nice. Especially an option we were validly discussing picking without trading back!
Lets no draft him in the 1st Round
But if hes somehow there at the top of the 2nd and last to us lets get him! That way we would luckly have two first round quality players lol
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Well there goes that
If we cut Lawrence Wilson for possession (a sixth round pick) I’m confident in saying we sure as hell won’t use our top ten pick on someone with the same issue.
"What do want to say to those critics now?"
"Just sit back and watch the show." -Cam Newton
That's not what I was trying to imply
If we cut a player that was given a tiny contract on NFL standards, why would we invest 10 million+ on a player with the same problem?
"What do want to say to those critics now?"
"Just sit back and watch the show." -Cam Newton
That statement has the same issue.
In order for it to make sense Lawrence Wilson would have to matter. But he doesn’t.
Finding a very important piece to the puzzle is a different story entirely. Personally I would draft someone smart enough not to smoke millions of dollars away in the first, and hope he falls to us in the second round (though I doubt we are that lucky.)
Call it a double standard if you like
But there’s a big difference between a likely first rounder and a sixth round pick on the practice squad.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 17, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Two differences
If you’ve already drafted him, you give him another chance (or two… or three).
If you haven’t already drafted him, you have second thoughts about doing so.
Dammit! Why cant Matt Kalil or Claiborne do this so one of them would fall to us lol. Maybe Ryan can go plant some drugs in Matt’s car lol
by PantherTrain on Jan 17, 2012 4:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Welcome to the 2nd round Dre!
Way to go! This is a huge warning sign for this guy. If he cannot control himself when he has the opportunity to make millions right in front of him, that is a monster slam on his character.
This is not a debate about the effects of weed or if it should be legalized. Fact of the matter is that the NFL suspends players for it’s possession and use, end of story. This guy really has to smoke it up to celebrate, party or relax? He is severely lacking in perspective. Bad news.
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by jdough on Jan 17, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
NEWS FLASH: Man in Alabama smokes weed with no football to occupy his time!
IN OTHER BREAKING NEWS: Citizens of Alaska report cold weather and snow!
Seriously… when there isn’t football going on in Alabama, what else are you gonna do?
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by Tater596 on Jan 17, 2012 4:31 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I guess light up a joint and smoke away millions...seems like a great time!
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I guess thats why J. Jenkins went to UNA
So he’ll have a reasonable excuse when/if he gets caught
by rscott94 on Jan 17, 2012 4:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Make out with your sister?
ROLL TIDE!
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by KaiserBromley on Jan 19, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Except for the fact
That he was arrested in Florida.
Nope, from Gadsden AL
Why was he in FL? Don’t know. I would imagine maybe that’s where his agent is and he’s housing/training there?
If so, the agent is doing a piss-poor job. Hehehehe…
Nah, he won't fall that far.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 17, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
I seriously doubt this drops him out of the first
It wasn’t that long ago that Gantt recalled asking a player about the number of weed smokers in the lockerroom, and that number was well over half.
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I'm extremely happy about this
I’m hopeful this little “incident” allows Dre to fall a little to us at the #8/9 spot, he’s a premier talent that got caught with a little bud a week after winning the National Championship and also knowing he only had 2 months to smoke it before the combine. Let’s get Dre!!!!
A 6’3 corner that’s fast and can make tackles, YES PLEASE!
I'm confused..
I said he makes tackles, as in he’s not afraid to come up and make a tackle, he doesn’t shy away from contact. I’m confused where James Anderson’s tackling ability found it’s way into my comment about a rookie CB and his ability make tackles.. Maybe I’m missing something, but I don’t think I am..
he's too slow anyhow
Glad he’s been an idiot, focus on somebody else now. I’m liking brockers more and more, hope nobody nicks him before us.
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by LimeyPanther on Jan 17, 2012 5:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He'll probably run a sub 4.5 40-yard dash..
and that’s too slow in your eyes for 6’3 lockdown corner?? hmmmm..
'probably'? i'll believe it when he posts it at the combine
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by LimeyPanther on Jan 17, 2012 5:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is that his "wake and bake" 40 time??
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by KaiserBromley on Jan 19, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Kind of echoing a common sentiment on here
The act of smoking weed does not bother me. It’s common, and I don’t think it hinders a player to perform to his full capability. That said, it’s illegal. Whether it should be or not is a moot point. He will be suspended if this were to carry over to his NFL career. It’s not that he’s a proven pot smoker (because there are too many to count in the NFL already, it’s that he has shown enough irresponsibility to be caught with it.
yeah the getting caught puts him in the dumb pot smoker category. Im sure a large number in the NFL smoke but personally if i was a coach id rather my player be in his home relaxing with a lil green then out in public getting drunk and rowdy. Alcohol leads to a hell of a lot more trouble. Biggest concern with pot is getting caught.
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I doubt this seriously impacts his draft stock.
Were this to happen in March or April, it might drop him significantly, but as teams begin to interview him and get to know him his stock will stabilize. Worst case scenario, he has a fall similar to Prince Amukamara.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 17, 2012 5:35 PM EST reply actions
agreed.
But, Dre>Prince any day. Dre played in a better conference, had better coach’s, went to Alabama (may not mean anything to most, but it measures out when it comes to a league scout) I’m on my phone but prince came out as a junior correct? And Dre is also a junior I believe. I’d be interested in the stats. Sorry I’m high, just like DreK was.
by Panther-Brodes on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think it's a real toss up between both, but I would give the edge to Dre.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 18, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently this isnt his first time being busted
Due to the timing of this arrest and when his court date and senticing will be could have major ramifications. This is not a first offense so he may have to due jail time. Also once he is drafted he falls under the CBA and any conviction of guilt would put him in violation of both the leagues substance abuse and personal conduct polcies so he could be facing suspension also
Tobacco is worse for you then weed.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 17, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Facts? What are those?
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I found an interesting research paper with 30 doctors, most of them PHD's, citing sources that said otherwise.
It was quite an interesting read. There are literally thousands of articles out there saying ‘weed ain’t bad.’ Butthat one research paper that made me stroke my beard since it was so well researched, structured, and ect ect.
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If weed actually harmed your health it would be legalized...can you say population control?
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The Cowboys May Be Happy, He Might Fall To #14 Now
Several mocks recently had Kirkpatrick going to the Jaguars at #7.
Not sure the Cowboys will be happy
a bit of weed will make Dre seem like a softy in their eyes.
by Lost_terrapin on Jan 18, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
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seriously, we’d love all of these kids to understand simple things like consequences, the value of work ethic, etc that most folk don’t start to piece together till their mid 20s or later. hope this is a wake up call for him, and i wish him luck.
by Lost_terrapin on Jan 18, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like one of the Panthers top choices for their draft has been….
[puts on sunglasses]
…Weeded out
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
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by Revshawn on Jan 17, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
LOL
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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This must be green'd
"What do want to say to those critics now?"
"Just sit back and watch the show." -Cam Newton
Done
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LOL!
Kirkpatrick gets taken to the 2011 Draft and given a drug test. Doctors are mad when he refuses it and says to the investigator:
It appears that Dre
[puts on sunglasses]
Refuses to pee
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
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That sucks he got caught.
I was hoping we will draft him with the 8th pick. 6"3 corner playing opposite of Gamble, who is 6"1. That could potentially be a BAMF duel at corner. The chances of Carolina drafting Dre is slim now, cus BAMF don’t tolerate pot smoking.
So… what do you guys think about picking Zach Brown OLB with the 8th pick? I think he is a faster Thomas Davis.. that’s right! I believe Brown will boost his draft status after the combine. I heard he runs a 40 in the 4.3 range. Plus he is a great tackled. I say draft Brown and get a CB in the second rd. What do you guys think??
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=Pl3yu6kykrw
by chang_gang84 on Jan 17, 2012 8:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Suck that he got caught? Lol!
I can see it now. Dre is step for step with the Colts 3rd wideout and the ball is in the air coming towards him.
“Coach! Which ball do I catch?”
“Catch the middle one!”
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Personally
I’d still take Kirkpatrick at 8/9.
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by Jake Humphrey on Jan 17, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
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by Son of a Newton on Jan 18, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
As of right now
I would consider him a reach at 8/9, although I like him as a player. If we could trade back, gain a second rounder and get Brown, then absolutely.
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"Just sit back and watch the show." -Cam Newton
sorry wrong url for Zach Brown.
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=Pl3yu6kykrw
Will it be a reach at 8? Maybe trade back and pull another 2007?
by chang_gang84 on Jan 17, 2012 8:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If he has a good combine/pro day
I say draft him at 8/9…
by rscott94 on Jan 17, 2012 9:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Myself, i would rather have a player that smokes up once in a while
than 1 that drinks once in a while. You don’t have to worry about him having a hang over on game day or on practice days. Also, they say pot is not addictive, Alcohol is.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
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Oh you said once in a while never mind
by rscott94 on Jan 18, 2012 2:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
So you get a hangover every time you have a drink?
No not every time,
but I never had a hang over from smoking a joint, no matter how much I smoked.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
and i've seen Kerry Collins play on sundays.
reason enough to question the effects of drinking.
by Lost_terrapin on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
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