Believing in Tim Tebow

I realize this doesn't have to do with the Panthers. But after some of the comments about all the Tebow hate, I realized this article was necessary. The guy is amazing, and it's a must read for all you Tebow haters.

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Great stuff

And I’ll just say this, I’ve never hated Tebow the person. I’ve admired him as a person, just not as a football player. I root against them because I can’t stand to hear about him night and day. I would like him to be successful.

I wish he could play well and be a great QB without it overshadowing everything else happening in the sports world.

by JDeLong42 on Jan 16, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs

Yeah, you make a good point

The ESPN coverage got a little out of hand at times.

Do a barrel roll!

by Thaddeus_Griffin on Jan 16, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions

Very much

That’s what my gripe is. I don’t hate Tim Tebow. I hate the coverage of him. I want to watch ESPN and hear about what’s going on in the world of sports in that particular day, not a redo of the Tebow talk they’ve done each of the previous several days. When I watch the Nuggets play the Heat, I want to hear about the Nuggets and the Heat, not Tim Tebow and the Broncos. If Ty Lawson makes an And-1 for example, I want to see how Ty Lawson and his teammates react. I do not want to see how many different fans are wearing Tim Tebow jerseys.

It’s out of hand. Now there is apparent consideration to invite Tebow to the AT&T Pro-Am at Pebble Beach. If he takes part in that, we’ll probably have an hour long Sports Center special providing a shot-by-shot breakdown of Tebow’s entire round.

Again, I like Tebow. I just don’t him to be half of what I hear every day.

by JDeLong42 on Jan 16, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I completely agree that the incessant talk about Tebow....

has and did get out of hand, but to say you don’t want to see how many people are wearing Tebow jerseys at a Nuggets game is short-sighted. Why wouldn’t they point that out? His influence goes beyond the football field, and people recognize this by purchasing and displaying those jerseys. I’ll say this: Those Denver fans are going to cheer like there’s no tomorrow for Tebow to succeed at leading this team to victories every time he takes the field. If he ultimately fails to succeed as a QB for the Broncos, I have a feeling that many of those same fans will still be proud of owning a Tebow jersey because of what he stands for. Furthermore, you couldn’t pay me to wear the jersey of any player, regardless of the team(Panthers included), that thinks they are better than me, and therefore above me.

by Derek Leazer on Jan 16, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions

I don't mind people wearing Tebow jerseys to games

It just irks me when those fans wearing the jerseys are the focal point of a basketball game that has nothing to do with him.

by JDeLong42 on Jan 16, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions

A little? It got more than a little out of hand.

Any time ESPN does “TebowCenter”, it’s way out of hand.

The problem I have with Tebow is he’s all you hear about. I can’t watch NFL stuff on ESPN or NFLN because every other word is Tebow.

Of course, the Panthers are done for the year so my main focus has turned to the Braves, but I do still like to keep up with the rest of the NFL, and I’d like to do that without having Tebow shoved down my throat.

But, Tebow is a great human being and I have no problem with him personally. I just wish the mediots would keep him off my tv for a change.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

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by BW Smith on Jan 16, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions

Exactly how i feel. I never hated him, just the hype. I cant stand overexposure and obsession on elite athletes, let alone mediocre ones like Tebow. I just want balanced sports coverage.

by PantherTrain on Jan 16, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions

I would take

by Derek Leazer on Jan 16, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions

I would take hearing about Tebow all day long....

over listening to commentators exalt arrogant players like Brady, even if he is much better than Tebow.

by Derek Leazer on Jan 16, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions

i would take hearing about Tim Tebow

IF they talked about this kind of stuff rather than making a tim tebow rap. There are a lot of generous football players out there that the media could care less about and it makes me sick. Our nation idolizes these superior athletes and rather than cover the amazing work that DWade, Hines Ward, or Tim Tebow have done they choose to blow up stories about Vick, Burress, Roethlisberger, or meaningless tweets from the Giants defense, Roddy White or the Saints.

"One step at a time"

by mcdonaldwr on Jan 16, 2012 8:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

true true

Can we stop hearing about random people’s tweets. Imagine what would happen if Tebow tweeted something, it would be the story of the year. He’s a great guy, but there should be more publicity about the good that players do.

by usana_gaines on Jan 16, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions

I believe he'll win superbowls

Tebow is still young, and really could’ve used a year or two watching a real QB. Then Foxy’s gameplan handicapped him. You can’t expect a guy to throw 5-10 times in the 1st 3 quarters, and 20 times in the 4th, and every pass has to travel at least 10 yards through the air – no slants, screens, or quick outs. I think they would have had more success as a team if they signed David Garrard or Donovan McNabb for this year. Tebow reminds me so much of Steve Young. He obviously has the talent and skills to play at a high level, but he hasn’t figured out how to do it consistently. When was the last time Foxy put effort into developing young talent? With all of Tebow’s bad plays, he still had twice as many TDs to INTs, and a winning record.

However, I am in complete agreement about you guys who complain about there being too much Tebow coverage on TV. Friday NFL Network aired a one hour special on his season. Wouldn’t it have made more sense to have an hour show on CAM, and the rookies, or the class of guys who threw for over 5,000 yards? Apparently Tom Brady agrees also.

by usana_gaines on Jan 16, 2012 1:15 AM EST reply actions

I don’t believe in any guy who turns faith into a caricature, or who works with a homophobic, misogynistic organization like Focus on the Family.

by SlayerGhaleon on Jan 16, 2012 4:59 AM EST reply actions

Please don't say 'homophobic' about Focus on the Family.

That word is thrown around too much these days. When an organization or individual is bold enough to say that they don’t agree with the gay/lesbian lifestyle, it doesn’t mean that they are ‘homophobic’. Furthermore, when you say that FoF is misogynistic because they believe that a man should be the head(leader) of the household, you are misguided. Lastly, there are better things to say than call Tebow a guy who turns his faith into a caricature. We could all stand to live are more humble, honest, and genuine life. Maybe we could all learn something from him instead of looking to bring him down.

by Derek Leazer on Jan 16, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Sorry PB76 but,

you are arguing that your opinion is correct and SlayerGhaleon’s opinion is incorrect.

That doesn’t fly in the real world. You are entitled to yours as he is entitled to his and you’ll both have a ton of people who side with either of you.

This is one my many problems with Tebow. This is football, NFL football. The Broncos, the playoffs, CSR, the NFL and ESPN have nothing whatsoever to do with religion and this guy has brought his personal beliefs into it.

As someone who’s not religious I don’t appreciate having to deal with this when all I’m interested in is football. It has no place.

That and the fact that constant Tebow coverage the past few months instead of legitimate players is akin to recapping the Colts 2011 season daily during the playoffs.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Jan 16, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions

The article had nothing to do with religion at all

And besides, why are you so scared of another persons beliefs? They don’t affect you. The fact of the matter is this kid is like no player I’ve ever seen before. He’s humble, is quick to take the fame from himself and put it on his teammates. Just because the guy prays after he scores a touchdown or wins a game, or opens an interview with “I’d like to thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.” is no reason to hate on him. We could use more athletes like him, and less like Terrell Owens or Blake Griffin.

Do a barrel roll!

by Thaddeus_Griffin on Jan 16, 2012 12:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

What's wrong with Blake Griffin?

Maybe i need to losten more, bur honestly the first time I’ve heard anybody hate on him.

I miss baseball.

by Figgi4life on Jan 16, 2012 2:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Same here

I was about to ask, but I thought there was something I was missing.

by JDeLong42 on Jan 16, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions

Overrated, full of himself

Just not a good guy. I don’t like him at all.

Do a barrel roll!

by Thaddeus_Griffin on Jan 16, 2012 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

But, you guys are right

He’s never really done anything to warrant that, and I’m being a hypocrite. So I’ll take the Griffin comment back. But I think you got my original point.

Do a barrel roll!

by Thaddeus_Griffin on Jan 16, 2012 3:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Ain't skeered of, just don't appreciate.

If another athlete with as much coverage as him gave a shout out to his great aunt who lived on Saturn and bowed down to the Bojangles advertisement on the scoreboard before each game at some point people would get sick of it or think he was a wackjob.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Jan 16, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions

Why would anyone think he was a whackjob?

That sounds completely normal to me.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Jan 16, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions

So your beef is with him being religious?

STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!

by MrBernz on Jan 16, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions

My interpretation is that his beef is with Tebow's religious belief being brought up too much...

And his football skills (or lack thereof) not being the focal point of discussion re: Tebow.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Jan 16, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions

Since you mentioned lack of football skills...

Can you imagine any other QB as an NFL starter with these numbers? (Stats courtesy of pro-football-reference.com):

- 34th among active QBs in yards per game at 115.3
- LAST in completion percentage 46.5%
- Averages less than 1 TD passing per game
- QB rating is 72.9, ranked 28th in the league

I know Denver had a hot streak during the season, but Tebow ended Denver’s season EXACTLY as Kyle Orton began it—losing 4 out of 5.

I generally don’t bring religion into my posts on sports, but before you go accusing me of being against Tebow’s religion, I will tell you that I am a Christian. I don’t really have an interest in the Broncos at all—I come to CSR to read about the Panthers—hopefully they will keep that focus here.

But this I will say: one of the biggest problems we have in the world is that religious people want to control the behavior of others. No one has a right to try to make anyone believe anything about anything—much less Tebow. Tebow is NOT God, and not believing in Tebow MEANS NOTHING.

One more thing worth saying: how many times have we seen someone publicly claim religion, only to fall short of their faith just as publicly? Faith in another person—especially one that you really don’t know—is foolish.

I think some of you need to get over the fact that people don’t like a player you adore. Because in the end, it just doesn’t matter.

"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson

by hyphenate on Jan 16, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions

I believe in this day and age Christianity doesn't force anything on you.

No one has a right to try to make anyone believe anything about anything—much less Tebow.

Non religious people however are always trying to force religion out of you.
Case in point, no more prayer in school rather than just not participating in it if you did not want to.

STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!

by MrBernz on Jan 16, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions

Is this why I can't get married?

I believe in this day and age Christianity doesn’t force anything on you.

by aceofsween on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions

Did you even read the article?

It has nothing to do with religion, football, or the Broncos. It has to do with how amazing of a PERSON he is, and that’s all I was trying to show everyone. Take that anyway you want.

Do a barrel roll!

by Thaddeus_Griffin on Jan 16, 2012 6:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I'm still trying to figure out why you posted it...this isn't the Broncos blog.

Tim Tebow isn’t on our team.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Jan 16, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions

Because on the Saturday games open thread

Almost every 3 comments or so were negative about him, many attacking him as a person, not as a player. So I thought some people needed to see that article, that was really it.

Do a barrel roll!

by Thaddeus_Griffin on Jan 17, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions

You nailed it sir, I think I'm gonna bow out of this debate

while the gettin’s good though. I look forward to discussing FOOTBALL with you guys at another time.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Jan 16, 2012 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I think that's a good idea, and I'm going to follow suit.

My reasons:

1) This is a football blog, not a religion blog.
2) This is a Panthers blog, not a Broncos blog.

That’s it. There’s really no need to debate Tim Tebow here. If you want to talk about Tebow, call into ESPN Radio or visit the Broncos’ blog here on SB Nation.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Jan 16, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions

Visiting the Broncos blog went real well last time someone

from here felt the need to go over there.

by JDeLong42 on Jan 16, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions

I know. I don't understand why they banned him.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Jan 16, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions

The ESPN coverage did get out of hand and I dont know why because every analyst says he sucks

But its not like he asks to have the spotlight put on him, he doesnt do anything to attract it. I also beleive Tebow can be a franchise QB in time. I mean you could see as the season prgressed that his passing got better and better but was inconsistent, but you cannot give up on a guy with this kind of athletic ability and intangibles because if this kid can win without being able to throw well imagine what he can do when he does learn to throw, he is also the perfect face of the franchise being such a good person and role model. But he will not be Denvers franchis QB they will not take the time to develop him. I hope he gets traded to a team that wants him so that he will get the time he needs. But even if he cant be a starter this dude will make one great backup, I mean this dude does not turn the ball over and he find ways to win games , thats what I want from a backup.

by TS BOBCAT on Jan 16, 2012 9:19 AM EST reply actions

t's going to be interesting to see how many of these fans

get sick of hearing about Newton every time they turn on their tv next year.

STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!

by MrBernz on Jan 16, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions

Exactly

"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson

by hyphenate on Jan 16, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions

like tebow...just not the media or his fans...

I really hate it when the fans try to compare tebow to newton or say tebows a winner and cam isnt! God that boils me

by bird2jasun on Jan 16, 2012 12:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs

Amen. Comparing their performances is like comparing ice cream to dog shit.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Jan 16, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions

This made me LOL.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Jan 16, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions

all dog shit does is Win!!!!

Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!

Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 16, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions

I know how you enjoy a good ice cream reference BDub.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Jan 16, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions

Tebow is a fantastic role model for the younger generation.

He’s a great athlete and has an iron will. I just don’t think it’s necessary to add all of his religious connotations into every single interview. That’s great he has faith and it works for him as it does for some people. We all know he’s thankful for everything as we’ve heard many, many, many, many, many times. That and ESPN bled the Tebow thing for more than it was worth.

I’m thankful Denver lost because now we won’t have to watch Tebow inspirational re-runs for the next eight months. Can you imagine how annoying the offseason would be if Denver went to the Superbowl?

"Buy the ticket, take the ride" ~ Hunter S. Thompson

by SwankTheTank on Jan 16, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions

Great guy bad QB

thats all

CAM....CAAAAAAAAM

by CamNewtonSBMVP on Jan 16, 2012 2:53 PM EST reply actions

I believe that Tim Tebow is a fantastic person

And a damn good athlete with a work ethic that’s second to none. I also believe that he’s a crappy quarterback that doesn’t deserve all the coverage he gets.

Follow me on Twitter at @JakeHumphrey91

by Jake Humphrey on Jan 16, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions

Jake, you summed it up perfectly

game over, end of discussion for me. Onward to the off season.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Jan 16, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions

+100

"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson

by hyphenate on Jan 16, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions

Tebow the role model

I must say that as we all, or most people anyway, say that Tebow is a great guy and role model, I must disagree. My kids are taught to understand that people on TV are entertainers, and no more. I mean, many people thought of Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, and Tiger Woods as role models. All those guys disappointed. I teach my kids that they have to decide to have a certain level of integrity, work ethic and character, regardless of what people on TV do.

But if my kids were gonna pick someone to emulate, go with competent winners like CAM.

by usana_gaines on Jan 16, 2012 8:31 PM EST reply actions

You make a good point

People like the story because he has strong character and a good work ethic. Guess what? He still sucks at his job. This is going to sound harsh, but it reminds me of all the 6th place kids who got participation trophies, and I honestly think idolizing this type of behavior is part of what’s wrong with our country today. Work smarter, not harder. Hard work doesn’t mean shit if it brings no results.

by ppalm on Jan 17, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions