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Panther Paw Prints: Shiny Hood Ornament Edition

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I've got a plethora of Paw Prints for you today as we move into offseason mode. Let's start with a little jab at our NFC South brethern who saw their season end one short week after ours.

SI's Kenny Byrne posts regarding the post-season analysis of the Falcons trade up for Julio Jones last draft. He adds a little humor to it by calling his draft axiom the 'Shiny Hood Ornament' Man Law. That is, WR's get over-valued by fans and some teams on draft day but in the end they don't make your engine (team) run any better, they just look good on the hood:

Costly Julio Jones trade came back to bite Atlanta Falcons in playoffs - Kerry J. Byrne - SI.com

The stupidity of the decision came crashing down on the Falcons for all of Football Nation to see on Sunday: the Atlanta passing game was a disaster, the Falcons were shut out, the offensive line was overmatched and its receivers were no-shows. Here's what we said Sunday in our Falcons-Giants grades on SI.com: "Atlanta's star-studded pass-catching corps of Jones, Roddy White and future Hall of Fame tight end Tony Gonzalez were non-factors, unable to get separation. They combined for 16 ineffective catches for 160 yards. Decent numbers, but zero game-changing plays for such a high-profile trio"

So who else buys into the Shiny Hood Ornament Man Law? It does make sense and you can find other examples of a WR not making the expected impact. Look at how Smitty dropped off in 2010 but now we see it really had nothing to do with him.

Moving on before I beat that dead horse yet again, here's why I don't think Chud will end up in Miami:

."Miami Dolphins find pickings slim for coach if Fisher eludes them - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

Rob Chudzinski: The Dolphins interviewed the former Miami Hurricanes tight end for their offensive coordinator position a year ago. They ended up with Brian Daboll, while Chudzinski took the same post with Carolina and directed an offense led by rookie quarterback Cam Newton, who threw for 4,051 yards this season. The Panthers set a franchise record with 6,237 yards, which has already earned Chudzinski an interview for the head job in Jacksonville. A side note" His quarterbacks coach in Carolina was Mike Shula.

They turned him down just last year. I would still have the taste of that in my mouth if it were me.

Here's something that made me laugh. Just when you thought the Tebow-hype couldn't get any more outrageous, we get this. This guy says that Tebow is not only a better athlete than Cam Newton, he's the best athlete in the NFL:

"Tim Tebow, Best Athlete in the NFL? | NFL | Denver Broncos

To start off, Tebow is arguably the best scrambler at his position. The only starting quarterback who possesses a similar power and speed combination as Tebow is Cam Newton. Newton is bigger in stature (six-five, 248 lbs. compared to Tebow’s six-three, 236) and had a faster 40-time, yet doesn’t possess the ability to shed defensive linemen and linebackers the way Tebow does. I’d say Tebow is stronger in that regard, as he is essentially a running back when decides to take off.

You read it, he really said that. I'm not going to dignify that with a response! Until after the jump anyway...

Star-divide

You have got to be effin kidding me...Tebow is better at shedding tacklers and that makes him a better athlete? Please disregard the fact Newton is faster, jumps higher, throws harder and further and has better throwing accuracy. Now I really want Tebow to lose this weekend even it it means Tom Brady instead gets to the SB.

Here's a mock draft that has CB Morris Claiborne falling to us:

NFL mock draft: Colts lock in on Luck; Browns turn to Heisman winner Griffin - NFL - Sporting News

8. (Tie) Carolina Panthers: Morris Claiborne*, CB, LSU. The Panthers' defense was terrible in 2011. Claiborne, with his big-play ability, would provide an immediate upgrade at corner.

I don't think Goodell would get this whole sentence out of his mouth: "The Carolina Panthers are on the cl...oh, the Panthers pick is in!". Mo-Claire come on down and put on this Panther hat!

Here's a piece comparing Tebow's media coverage to that of John Kasay, who has also been well known to wear his religion on his sleeve:

Let the man pray, already | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper

Kasay never tried to convert me, and there's no evidence Tebow proselytizes. That would offend me because it implies somebody knows the one true way. I'm at the age where I can search for one all by myself.

I guess that's the difference between winning the national championship and the Heisman and going to UGA....hee hee.

Here's more from Derek Anderson on his role as mentor for Cam Newton this past season:

Anderson shares in Newton's success

"I think I did some good things as far as my role, helping this team every week where I could, from trying to get the defense ready to helping Cam out," Anderson said. "I enjoyed the season for the first time in a while. Obviously, winning more games would have made it even more enjoyable, but I really enjoyed it.

I would put signing Anderson to back-up Newton as one of our better moves of last offseason. I say let's keep him around.

Here's some Rams fans dreaming of a draft pick 'bonanza' for that #2 overall:

2012 NFL Mock Draft: Robert Griffin III Is Going Pro, Let The Trade Talk Begin - Turf Show Times

While his decision to enter the draft comes as no surprise, it makes official the possibility that the Rams can swap their second pick to one of those teams in need of a quarterback in a move that would fetch a bonanza of additional draft picks, an instant turnaround, just add water.

I'm not feeling it as the only team that would have enough trade bait to get up that far is the Redskins. I bet they instead go free agent. I'm not seeing the Dolphins doing ti either but I guess it depends on who their HC ends up being.

Her's a guy giving a crazy early look at fantasy values for next season. After a quick look at his top 20 I would say to anyone that asked I would rather use Autopick before this guys rankings:

Matthew Berry's early 2012 fantasy football rankings - Fantasy Football - ESPN

13. Cam Newton, QB -- I expect the rushing touchdowns to come down, but still. Imagine when he has a full training camp.

Maybe Newton won't match his 14 rushing TDs but conversely his passing numbers in both yards and TDs should climb. I would have him ion my top 5 since after all he was the #3 scorer overall in 2011 (Yahoo Sports). BTW, in the process of verifying that info I saw that Newton's 2011 preseason fantasy ranking in Yahoo Sports was #199. Boy did everybody miss on him (except Bo Jackson).

Speaking of having to eat a little crow on Newton, any draft pundit evaluating last year's draft grades will most likely be raising their Panthers evaluation. For example, the silver badger himself Mel Kiper revised his Panthers draft grade:

Looking back at 2011 NFL draft - NFC South Blog - ESPN

After the draft, Kiper gave the Carolina Panthers a C. Now, he’s giving them an A-. That sounds pretty accurate because No. 1 overall pick Cam Newton certainly proved he’s a franchise quarterback.

I'm not sure what the minus is based on but I have to agree with the A part.

Pro Football Focus isn;t buying the Andy Dalton for OROY :

The PFF All-Rookie Team - 2011 | ProFootballFocus.com

Quarterback: Cam Newton, CAR Some may prefer Andy Dalton given his team made the playoffs, but really there’s no doubting which player made the bigger positive contribution (on the field) to his team. Newton has a long way to go to become a consistent passer, but he’s as dangerous a runner from the QB position as there is with his ability to find the end zone likely to make him a difference maker for years to come

There really is no doubt...

And last but not the least funny...wait, well actually this is simply a poor attempt at humor. This is what you get when, and I'm guessing here, a non-Sports journalist tries to talk about a sport and team they know little about:

Short Stack: Food for thought, quick and over easy : News-Record.com : Greensboro & the Triad's most trusted source for local news and analysis

Football team wanted After most of its teams fared badly, or very badly, in football bowl games (one exception: Wolfpack!), the Atlantic Coast Conference should recruit the Carolina Panthers. Sure, Cam Newton & Co. aren’t winners in the National Football League yet, but they probably wouldn’t lose to West Virginia by 37 points as ACC champion Clemson did.

Yeah...a college football conference should recruit an NFL team with the inference that the Panthers aren't good enough to play at the NFL level. Ha ha I get it. Please go back to writing about sheek & shabby decor and vegetable canning tips. Leave the football talk (and humor) to us, we got it!

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WHAT?!?!?

Tebow may be the 3rd best athlete at his position (Vick and Cam), but he’s probably not even in the top 10-15 as far as athletics go. These people obviously don’t watch Cam play. He plays like an actual QB not a fullback. Tebow won’t last 5 years playing this way. Cam will.

Not to mention, if I’m not mistaking, Cam averages more YPC

by LeventiJ on Jan 11, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Not only that..

With only 4 more carries this season, Cam has 46 more yards, an average of 0.2 per carry (not a huge difference) but also 8 more touchdowns and 8 fewer fumbles.

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by D-Ranged1 on Jan 11, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell..

Tebow’s combined passing and rushing touchdowns are only 1 more than Cam’s passing touchdowns alone.

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by D-Ranged1 on Jan 11, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair...

Tebow didnt play all 16 games…

by Whitt2k1 on Jan 11, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

But he had nearly equivalent attempts..

Even if the totals were closer (had Tebow played all 16), they’d only be skewed by Tebow having more snaps. As is, we’re able to see what each QB did with 120-some attempts.

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by D-Ranged1 on Jan 11, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

And on top of that

Cam could truck through defenders if he wanted to. He just falls down before he can take a shot to avoid getting nicked up. The Tebow craze is ridiculous. He is becoming overrated by epic amounts.

by JDeLong42 on Jan 11, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, if Tebow wanted to he could just wave his hands and part the defenders like Moses parted the Red Sea.

Let’s see Cam do that.

/end trolling

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Debate won...

Cam Newton, when a reporter asks him who will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday: "I'll tell you Sunday."

by Son of a Newton on Jan 11, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?
yet doesn’t possess the ability to shed defensive linemen and linebackers the way Tebow does. I’d say Tebow is stronger in that regard, as he is essentially a running back when decides to take off.

I guess he missed it when Cam drug a Tampa Bay defender 15 yards for a TD. Tebow isn’t nowhere near the Athlete Cam is

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 11, 2012 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

Frankly I’m surprised the author of the story can write and bl@w Tebow at the same time.

I like to think of myself as a one-man wolfpack.

by ERL on Jan 11, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LMAO!

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by Jaxon on Jan 11, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ignorance has a mouth. And it won't shut up.

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D

by Revshawn on Jan 11, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

this is just stupid

I’m kinda looking forward to when tebow crashes and burns… Does that make me a bad person? Still, its lazy journalism…. Cam is such a tremendous athlete. He’s also a fantastic qb which tebow aint. He might have had a good game against the steelers (which was hilarious by the way) but he’s throwing motion is so awful. Its sooooo slow, its like watching a boxer throwing a haymaker.

Also I like the atlanta comment. I hope this example (I’m sure there are many many more) puts to bed any talk of us trading up for blackmon.

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by LimeyPanther on Jan 11, 2012 3:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

He might have had a good game against the steelers (which was hilarious by the way) but he’s throwing motion is so awful. Its sooooo slow, its like watching a boxer throwing a haymaker.

This times a million… most pathetic wind-up and throwing motion I have ever seen anyone get away with. And I thought David Carr was bad with it.

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF!!!!

This guy must have been Tebowing when he typed that crap.We all witness Justin Tuck clown his fellow defensive lineman about getting a ride from Cam.Why would he need to shrug them off he gets rid of the ball quicker,he also runs 50yrds pass them without even getting touched.Holla if you hear me!!!

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by Eskimobob on Jan 11, 2012 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

yeah that mock draft sucks

i’d love morris, but come on, let’s be real, he won’t make it past the bucs and redskins, not to mention claibourne is the consensus better player compared to dre

"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."

by SouthernPanther on Jan 11, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Game Time

We will see Tebow and Foxy soon enough!! will settle it then.

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by Eskimobob on Jan 11, 2012 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

I was going to stop talking about Tebow, but I can't now.

Better athlete?! Please. Tim Tebow isn’t even half the athlete Cam is.

And speaking of Tebow…a friend shared this with me and I couldn’t resist sharing it here.

Tebowing

(No offense intended…but it’s funny.)

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

Lol!

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

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by Revshawn on Jan 11, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess you dont have to save your mouth for marriage……#TEBLOWED

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 11, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO!

Teblowed….that’s brilliant!

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

lol… and harsh

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Here comes the Tebow hate again. :p

Hate on the journalism, not on Tebow! Do you not remember who the Broncos are facing? Tom Brady and the Patsies! Screw them! Tebow needs to kick their ass, the Saints ass, and THEN lose in the Super Bowl

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

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by Revshawn on Jan 11, 2012 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

No, I don’t want them to win this weekend. All that will do is continue to make people believe this garbage even more. As much as I dislike the patriots and brady, at least brady is a REAL NFL QB. Unlike tebow who is a fullback who can throw occasionally.

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Tebow

It amazes me how people get all bent out of shape when some coloumist writes stuff about Tebow. I hope the people here see what his limitations are. I know tebow does. You know, hate on the writers , don’t hate on the man. I’ve never seen him beat his chest and proclaim how great he is although it seems very easy for a hell of a lot of players too. I for one will be pulling for denver. I could never pull for NE regardless who they’re playing.

by oldpanther on Jan 11, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ditto, and well said.

Cam Newton, when a reporter asks him who will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday: "I'll tell you Sunday."

by Son of a Newton on Jan 11, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

re: getting bent out of shape

It amazes me how people can get bent out of shape re: rooting for New England. The Super Bowl loss was 8 years ago…I think it’s time people got over that.

(Not directing this at you, oldpanther. Your comment just inspired this thought.)

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

is it okay to hate on the patriots..

… if you think their coach is a cheat and Brady is a DBag? not too concerned about the SB loss in this neck of the woods.

by Lost_terrapin on Jan 11, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, those are perfectly valid reasons.

And part of the reason I hate them.

The other part is because ESPN constantly blows them on air. God help us if Tebow ever signs with the Patriots.

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

What if...

The Patriots signed Tim Tebow AND made Rex Ryan their defensive coordinator?

by JDeLong42 on Jan 11, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The world would end.

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I’m 75% sure that nostrodarmus said that ‘when the time cometh that the fat one and the cheat are united the world will spontaneously vaporise killing all sentient life’

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by LimeyPanther on Jan 11, 2012 9:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Which reveals my hatred for Tebow. I actually want the Pats to win.

And I’ve never rooted for the Pats in my life.

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by KaiserBromley on Jan 11, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

If you want the Broncos to kick the Saints ass

Wait until next year. It’s not possible to beat them AND lose the Super Bowl this year

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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 11, 2012 7:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This is the sh!t I get sick and friggin tired of seeing with f*ckin tebow. You cannot honestly compare him and Newton and say he is far superior to Newton.

Utter bullsh!t, which is why I will be in full support of NE this weekend to kick ass on denver, because I am tired of hearing this crap from everyone outside of CSR basically. Hard to ignore all this crap talk when it is the only thing you see and hear on a day in and out basis.

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I'm lifting my ban on rooting for the Patriots this weekend too.

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

LETS GO PATS!!!!!!!

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 11, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, this one weekend… unless it is NE and NO in the SB… then I will pull for NE again.

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here.

But I’m hopeful that SF takes care of business.

If SF and NE win this weekend, I can fully enjoy the rest of the playoffs.

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember

NO, GB or NY needs to go to the Superb Owl for Cam to go to the Pro Bowl.

Adjust rooting accordingly.

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by Oi2dwrld on Jan 11, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally, my dream SB would be SF and HOU, with HOU winning… a longshot, but I think that would be a cool SB.

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Giants, Texans

Texans winning. But it will probably be GB and Balt/NE.

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by Oi2dwrld on Jan 11, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that would be a good one to. Honestly, I think Baltimore is the most boring team left right now… they don’t have much of an exciting offense IMO. Neither does SF, but I still think it would be cool to see them in it.

Or for a real crazy one, how about BAL vs SF! Harbaugh vs Harbaugh!

BATTLE OF THE CENTURY!!!!! WOOOOOOO!

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That'd kinda be like the LSU/Bama game

I hope it has a similar ending where instead of the Ravens winning the second one as well, SF takes it all!

by Atlantapanther on Jan 11, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

This season for the Giants reminds me of 2007

Their defense isn’t as good but their offense is a helluva lot better.
I think it will be Giants/GB vs Texans/Ravens
Either way, Cam gets into pro bowl

by Atlantapanther on Jan 11, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it will be Giants/GB vs Texans/Ravens

Those are actually divisional round match ups this weekend… they can’t face each other for the Championship. It would have to be NO vs GB in the NFC Championship to work out for Cam.

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

can someone enlighten me on this superb owl crap?

or is it just that all of your phones really that retarded? Mine never auto corrects Super Bowl.

by jovox on Jan 11, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a meme.

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Tis a joke friend… a silly joke.

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It's all about this

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by Oi2dwrld on Jan 11, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm liking Saints vs. Texans

So then either Kasay or Delhomme gets a ring

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by Jaxon on Jan 11, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Blasphemy

Your dream SB doesn’t have Carolina winning.

You just lost your fan card.

by Philipkcks on Jan 11, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point

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by Jaxon on Jan 11, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Should have said dream SB for these PO… my dream SB would be a rematch against Brady with us winning of course.

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by Oi2dwrld on Jan 11, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

+10000

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by KaiserBromley on Jan 11, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!

by MrBernz on Jan 11, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s so funny how some of you guys get all bent when someone second rate sports writer proclaims something outlandish. He does that so people will actually read his articles. As far as the cam vs. Tebow debate, you know I known we know it’s a dead conversation. I expect Denver fans to say different it’s their qb. Second the “shiny hood ornament” isn’t necessarily true ATL overvalued one position and thought that would cure it’s problems. They forget the fact that their defense was awful and only one position can change a team and that’s qb. Back to ATL though, green was a stud this season and I felt Julio went too high I thought he was in the 10-20 range not top 10. Overall though people that ludicrous things just do it for attention I started reading the article and thought it was from the comic section of the news paper

by blackdog2485 on Jan 11, 2012 4:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Their offense wasn’t all that great this year though… for all the talk about them in the offseason they really didn’t live up to much in terms of expectations… but perhaps that is just me.

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by Ivan459 on Jan 11, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

truth is Matt Ryan isn't really that good

Pressure in his face and his game is off.. the best in the NFL don’t blink when pressured.

by Shankdiddy on Jan 11, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I've been thinking, he's just not an top quarterback.

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by KaiserBromley on Jan 11, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

He is one of the best game managers ever. But not a great qb like he rookie season would make you think. If he has a running game and his receivers are getting open he can be very effective, but he just cant carry a team on his back.

by mlrupert on Jan 11, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, and I'm not even trying to denigrate him for being a Dirty Bird.

I’d put him just outside of the top 10 quarterbacks in the league. Rodgers, Brees Brady, Stafford, Schaub, Manning, Manning (if he plays again), Roethlisberger, Vick, Rivers, Cam are all better than him IMO. Even being an elite game manager, what he really needs is a defense for the Falcons to make any noise in the playoffs. But WHOOPS, they traded all their draft picks for Julio!

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by KaiserBromley on Jan 11, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: Am I the only one

That sees Andrew Luck as Matt Ryan Version 2?

by JDeLong42 on Jan 11, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

its possible kid is bright runs the offense etc but his arm strength is a question for ME. He had pick 6’s in college and i can only imagine the amount he will have in the NFL. His throws seem to take a while to get where they are going. Cam zips every ball he throws while that isn’t a good thing its better then basically soft ball pitching every throw…Luck may be the next Manning…28 Ints his rookie year

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 11, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, If you told me I can have a QB who is going to throw 28 INTs is rookie year

and go 3-13, but then he’s become the best quarterback in the NFL, I’d take it a million times over.

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Jan 11, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the last comment and the Clemson dig

I haven’t seen a Tiger get beaten that badly in Florida except at 3 AM with a golf club……

by univonc on Jan 11, 2012 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

On the Julio Jones trade

While Byrne may have found a pretty catchy phrase, I’m not sure it’s always the case. The issue with what Atlanta did wasn’t that they traded up for Julio Jones, because he’s a tremendous receiver- it’s that the decision to make that trade and investment showed a lack of understanding of what that team needed.

At best, Jones was always going to be a 4th option on that offense behind Roddy White, Tony Gonzalez and Michael Turner. The problem of trading up to get Jones wasn’t Jones, it was that no 4th option should ever… EVER be worth two first round picks.

In the last 10 years I can’t think of shinier hood ornaments than Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald, both of whom were garnering lofty comparisons to NFL legends. The same can be said for AJ Green… if you watched the Bengals this year then you know that he WAS the passing offense, not Andy Dalton. In those three cases I’m not sure we can say that those teams aren’t better, because in all three cases they’re the most vital players on their respective offenses.

by James Dator on Jan 11, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

If I may provide the counter argument...;)

As much as I love Calvin Johnson, the Lions are contenders this year for one reason…Matt Stafford stayed healthy all season. For all the hype given to Suh and the Lions defense they are a middling group at best right now. Calvin did well but didn;t set records until Stafford played an entire season

As far as Fitz, he’s been good every year but elite only when he had Kurt Warner throwing to him. Likewise Green has good numbers, great numbers for a rookie, but imagine if he had Peyton, or Brees or even Newton throwing to him? I could see elite numbers then.

I’m thinking there is some credence to the Shiny Hood Ornament Man Law….in my humble opinion ;) Let’s see if a good example materializes this draft. If the Redskins or Dolphins should go receiver without shoring up their QB position either would be a good case study

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by Jaxon on Jan 11, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think its very possible redskins and dolphins could sign fa qb’s to address that need.

by oldpanther on Jan 11, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I enjoy your counter argument, and counter again ; )

While I’ll definitely admit that no WR can overshadow the importance of a QB, I’m not sure the Lions would have made the playoffs without Johnson. While he was one player who was responsible for almost 40% of their offensive TDs, and 27% of their total offensive yards. If you were to take Johnson out of the game and duplicate Nate Burleson they would have lost almost 1,000 yards of offense and 12 touchdowns… that’s massive.

Same can be said for Fitzgerald… without him there is no passing offense for the Cards and I doubt they 3 games, not 8. While his team was abysmal he still has over 1,400 receiving yards and 8 TDs this year. I’d go so far to say that Fitz is ruining their franchise because they’re not terrible enough to get the top talent they need because he keeps them in games.

When it’s all said and done QB is the most important position, bar none. This is why I was advocating taking a QB, any QB rather than AJ Green. I guess what would have been really curious would be to look into a crystal ball and see if Green could turn Jimmy Clausen into Andy Dalton.

by James Dator on Jan 11, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the Cardinals will trade us Fitz for Sherrod.

He’ll help them lose games for sure.

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

But, but Sherrod is so valuable as a matador.

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by KaiserBromley on Jan 11, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

do not want

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by Smitty89 on Jan 11, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Shiny hood ornament

It trully is a shiny hood ornament offense was shut down in giants game. With the new rookie pay scale draft picks are so valuble that it is foolish for a team to give up so many to get one guy Atlanta will for sure discover that in the next few years.

by allthatremainsstillowns on Jan 11, 2012 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

tebow a better athlete no!

This is a reach by this journalist big time with all the athletic wrs and backs in this league that is a rediculous statement. Im not so sure Tebow is stronger then cam he doesnt shed the tacklers as much because he runs much more carefully. Just think back to the preseason game I think it was the dolphins when cam was getting brought down by a d lineman and he managed to throw a bullet that was completed to shockey ten yards down field with just his elbow and up free as he had his arm that is strength

by allthatremainsstillowns on Jan 11, 2012 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Yea i remember that throw

it was against the steelers though and I think it was Larry foote he was carrying

by mlrupert on Jan 11, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Like everyone else here

I am laughing my ass off at the Tebow comment. Really? Best athlete in NFL? We saw better performances from Cam when he was having a bad day.

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by Disciple of Carolina on Jan 11, 2012 5:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Julio Jones wasn't a waste

Sorry, I think he is going to have a long and successful career. He had a less than stellar rookie season but Roddy White has shown that he has less than awesome hands and J Jones is a steal for the next 3 years if he lives up to his potential.

by Relax on Jan 11, 2012 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

He is a stud but the dude was not worth 5 draft picks. Especially when Atlanta needed a lot more then another WR. They wanted AJ Green when they couldn’t trade up to get him they took Jones

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 11, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

How can a player be a steal when you give up nearly an entire drafts-worth of picks for him?

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by KaiserBromley on Jan 11, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Because you pay him 4 million a season for 4 years

If he lives up to potential they have a #1 receiver on the cheap and can dump Roddy White if needed on the expensive back end of his contract.

by Relax on Jan 12, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

that still doesn't make him a steal...

The amount of picks they gave up to get him makes your scenario a “break even” point, not a steal.

For him to be a steal he’d have to be better than Jerry Rice and bring at least 2 SB’s to Atlanta.

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by BW Smith on Jan 12, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought a steal is someone that exceeds expectations at a pick you have.

Not someone you beg borrow and steal to get. If he had fell to a team and they pick him, that’s a steal. If you go out and trade your future for a player, if he succeeds or fails he is not a steal.

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by MrBernz on Jan 12, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Best athlete in the NFL?

Tebow isn’t even the best athlete on his team! That prize goes to Von Miller.

by chatoka on Jan 11, 2012 5:41 PM EST reply actions  

For that matter, he’s not even the best athlete on the Broncos’ offense.

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF?/

Hi guys, this is my first post/comment but i’ve been reading for years. anyway this article had some good points except that tebow is better than cam thing ,that made me wanna puke.

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by thundarcat76 on Jan 11, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

It’s no secret how much I hate and I’m tired of the Tebow coverage. When he had an awful showing his last 3 games you didn’t hear one peep about it. The kid has a QB rating of 75% with a 48% completion rate and yet he is on ESPN non stop. Yea, they beat the banged up Steelers, big deal..

Guess what, Seahawks beat the Saints in the playoffs last year also but yet people wrote it off as a fluke and still claimed they sucked. It all ends this Saturday when Brady goes to work.

ESPN had a poll today and asked. “who is your favorite athlete” Kobe Bryant, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady and Tim Tebow. Tebow got the most votes! Insane. It proves in a society of reality TV, the Kardashians and TLC having a show titled “hillbilly handfishing” yes on TLC!! That people are just getting dumber, and dumber and just like things because it’s the current trend.

BTW, Jeff Fisher and Fins about to strike a deal..

by PantherTrain on Jan 11, 2012 6:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'm starting to not care about the Tebowmania except if they mention that they think Tebow is better than Cam

Honestly, it’s truly amazing how he did manage to win those games with such shitty stats. That’s why people are always talking about it. He isn’t very pretty on the stat sheet but the guy gets it done. It makes for a nice storyline.
Just think back to Jake Delhomme in 2003. The guy didn’t have good stats. But we were talked about constantly because we were getting it done regardless. All those OT games with a group of athletes who weren’t household names are how the Cardiac Cats were born.
Until he starts losing many games, I’m just going to tune out the hype and realize Tebow is a special guy.

by Atlantapanther on Jan 11, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Delhomme was putting up much better quarterback stats in '03 than Tebow.

He did this thing that Tebow might not understand, completed nearly 60% of his passes, GASP!

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by KaiserBromley on Jan 11, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoa whoa whoa...wait just a minute there buddy.

Let’s not bring hillbilly handfishing into this.

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by BW Smith on Jan 11, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by KaiserBromley on Jan 11, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Cost is too high here in the Lowcountry. That’s how the gent lost his arm to an alligator at Short Stay in Lake Moultrie not so long ago. Ouch!

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by GooseCreek on Jan 11, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey!

It’s serious stuff out in the Johnston County area. If any of you are from around there you know what I mean.

by tarheels24 on Jan 11, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

All I can say is

any reporter or writer, or whatever they want to call themselves, that says Tebow is better than Cam is just going for shock value to troll people into commenting. There is no way they could possibly think Tebow, who can run the ball, is better than Newton who can run or pass. Someone else pointed out, Newton has a better yard per attempt in rushing than Tebow, and the passing game isn’t even close.

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by MrBernz on Jan 11, 2012 6:32 PM EST reply actions  

what amazes me is how Newton has such a high ypc

even though we use him on a so many instances where he can only get 1 yard (1st and goal on the 1) or where he is trying to only get 1 (3rd/4th and 1). I just think back to games like Arizona where I felt like we ran him 3 straight times on 1st and goal at the 1 until he pounded into the end zone. Newton has truly compensated it with huge designed runs and huge runs off of scrambles (redskins anyone?).
It’s as if people are scared to tackle Tebow because they don’t want to anger God. lol

by Atlantapanther on Jan 11, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok guys I’m suddenly worried about Chud and the Rams. Looks like Fisher is choosing the Rams and the other candidates Rams have interviewed don’t seem that exciting. This worries me.

by PantherTrain on Jan 11, 2012 7:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Fisher is choosing the fins I mean

by PantherTrain on Jan 11, 2012 7:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not too worried.

Like it was said on another thread, Bradford isn’t a QB that can bend to fit the kind of offense Chud likes to run. Unless the Rams decide to opt for a replacement for Bradford, I think Chud’s interview is pretty much due diligence, even though I have little doubt Fisher will go with the Dolphins.

by NX75649 on Jan 11, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

other candidates

The other candidates dont seem that exciting because they arent that well known to us Im sure on some other one team forum people are asking who Rob Chudeski is. We are all guilty of a little homerism here and there. He will be staying put not enough experience yet Rivera always had good defenses and it took him nine tries to land a head job.

by allthatremainsstillowns on Jan 11, 2012 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

The most interesting part of this thread, for me...

was reading about how some of you will be passionately pulling for the Patriots this weekend because of your hatred/dislike for Tebow and/or the media’s love of Tebow. You have that right, but I have a totally different view of this.

I get a sense from the interviews I’ve seen over the years with Belichick and Brady, that they are genuinely arrogant and smug about how important they think they are. It is as if they are the kings of the universe and everyone around them are their subjects. Whereas, Tebow comes across as the exact opposite: Self-depricating, kind, and humble. For these reasons alone, I will be rooting for the Broncos. I’ll be completely honest, if Belichick and Brady were the coach and quarterback, respectively, of the Panthers, I’d have a harder time continuing my allegiance to the Panthers while they were here.

by Derek Leazer on Jan 11, 2012 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

I cannot, under any circumstances, root for the Patriots

@#$% that team, coach, QB and their cheating history. They cheated and beat our Panthers by a mere field goal. @#$% them and @#$% Goodell for burning the evidence. I cannot fathom a scenario that would allow me to root for the Patriots.

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by jdough on Jan 11, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

wow SCTebow…ESPN continues its Teblowing.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

42% of those responding to their poll think Tebow wins by "Divine Intervention"

Of course according to @NFLfootballinfo only Tebow and one other QB have ever lead teams to 4 OT victories in one season,including playoffs.

The other was Jake Delholme in 2003.

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by Oi2dwrld on Jan 12, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Again proves what i have said all along…the same thing people are blowing Tebow for Jake already did…and nobody dedicated an entire Network to them. This is just proving nobody paid attention to the Panthers during the Fox era. Denver is playing Foxball. Foxball always ends on the last series. You run keep it close and have a chance to win it in the end. win some lose some…we were the cardiac cats for a reason

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by MMA_PITBULL on Jan 12, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

watching the falcons get their asses kicked in the playoffs 2 years in a row makes me extremely happy

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by Night_Scratcher on Jan 12, 2012 11:31 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

I feel bad for Tebow...

…first and foremost, I’m a true Panther fan but I do hate what the media is doing to this guy. I watch his press conferences (I live in San Diego, so we get a lot of his buzz since he’s in the same division as the Chargers) and he doesn’t do much to bring this upon himself (like manay athletes do). Because of the media, ESPN might as well change their name and slogan to the Tebow Network and NFL.com has every other article about him also. It just sucks seeing how media can really ruin somebody’s image and effect how others perceive the someone. I dont’ think the guy deserves this kind of animosity.

by Onyxsphere on Jan 12, 2012 12:29 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd this.

It is amazing how many people want to see this guy fail, due to media coverage.

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by MrBernz on Jan 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

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