Offensive Preview: Carolina Panthers at Arizona Cardinals
by James Dator on Sep 8, 2011 2:50 PM EDT
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PrintWe had only two occasions to celebrate a win in 2010, but one of those came against the Arizona Cardinals in a December 19th game where Jonathan Stewart finished with 137 yards on the ground and Jimmy Clausen had by far the best game of his pro career. Now, just nine months later both the Panthers and Cardinals have gestated and are ready to give birth to their brand new teams (eww... sometimes I gross myself out).
The Carolina Panthers offense will be featuring a new QB, new WRs, new starting TE... the list goes on. In fact, from that game on 12/19/10 to now there are only four players on offense slated to start both games (Steve Smith, Jordan Gross, Ryan Kalil and Brandon LaFell) other than that every single position has a new player at it.
X-Factor: QB Cam Newton
As it will occur for much of the year this Sunday's x-factor will be rookie QB Cam Newton. Despite an up and down pre-season Newton separated himself from the QB competition by not making costly mistakes and running the offensive as effectively as the other two QBs. Last season the Cardinals didn't really see a mobile QB, so it will be curious to see how their 3-4 deals with Cam Newton's elusiveness. That being said, Newton is a rookie and will likely make mistakes on Sunday... it just comes with the territory. Meanwhile, the Cardinals pass rush should not be underestimated as they totaled 10 sacks during the pre-season; Joey Porter, Calais Campbell and Darnell Dockett will be an early test for Cam, and I think week one will show the difference between pre-season and the regular season.
Edge: Cardinals
More after the jump
Panthers run offense vs. Cardinals run defense
It can't be understated what the return of Jeff Otah means to the Carolina Panthers offensive line in the run game. When healthy he's a true road grader, and even with MacBern likely starting at RG the line will be better than the combo the Cardinals saw in 2010 with Schwartz and Williams on the right side of the line. Furthermore, the Cards will be seeing DeAngelo Williams, who was unable to play in the 2010 game due to injury. Even though their run defense has improved in the offseason the Panthers have a much healthier offensive line and in the end this could be a fairly lopsided element of the game.
Edge: Panthers
Panthers pass offense vs. Cardinals pass defense
This is the hardest element of the game to predict. If there's one area Cam has absolutely struggled with in the pre-season it was getting the ball to his wide receivers with regularity. I have no doubt Steve Smith can, and will get the better of rookie Patrick Peterson, but it's whether Newton can deliver the ball to Smitty that will determine that matchup. In terms of the #2 and #3 receiver it's a wash- their CBs aren't stellar while our WRs aren't stellar. The final aspect to this matchup is Greg Olsen, who will be used extensively throughout the game.
I picked the six games that represented a good cross section of elite pass catching tight ends the Cardinals saw in 2010, they were Tony Gonzalez, Kellen Winslow, Zach Miller, Vernon Davis, Jason Witten and Antonio Gates. Against these elite TEs the Cardinals allowed on average 51.5 yard receiving and just under a TD a game. Bascially, they were outmatched as a whole.
So in the end this comes down to whether Cam Newton can get the ball out effectively, because across all receivers the Panthers have the edge, but like I mentioned before he will struggle at times which effects this matchup.
Edge: Push
Offensively the Panthers match up okay with the Cardinals. Check back tomorrow when I break down the Panthers defense vs. the Cardinals potent offense.
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TE's
I know Olsen is a great TE but Shockey got the most PT in the preseason, and is slated to gain the most from the offense from Chud. Has anyone else seen these predictions on Fantasy boards? Why would they think Olsen would not be the 1st TE option? Am I missing something?
by William Ryan Harrell on Sep 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
I know Olsen is a great TE but Shockey got the most PT in the preseason
Mike Goodson ran the ball more than DeAngelo Williams this pre-season… doesn’t mean he’ll be the more used RB
(Shockey) is slated to gain the most from the offense from Chud.
Why? Shockey and Olsen are the same player except Olsen is younger, faster and has better hands.
Olsen and Shockey
Why? Shockey and Olsen are the same player except Olsen is younger, faster and has better hands.
Shockey and Olsen are similar. However, there are some pretty big differences that will matter considering we have a rookie QB. Although Olsen has improved recently, Shockey is still a much better run blocker than Olsen. Assuming we’re going to be run heavy, that should net Shockey some extra snaps he wouldn’t otherwise get.
I don’t think Chud’s offense has anything to do with it though. It’s more about protecting a young QB.
exactly what I was going to say
Olsen is the second best receiver on the team (actually, I think he’s the best; it’s like he has epoxy for hands…he’s just not as fast or explosive as Smitty. But given who will be defending him, Olsen has the advantage almost EVERY time). Shockey, however, is the better all-around TE…the man has all the tools to play the position. Olsen will get more catches and yards for the season, I think; but TD’s are a toss-up, since I think the Panthers will use Shockey more in the redzone, due to his versatility…will we run or pass when he’s in the formation?
So Olsen is our man between the 20’s…and Shockey is our man otherwise. Other than perhaps RB and LB, TE is our position of greatest strength and versatility.
umm
Yeah it seemed like, at least to me he ran with first team more. It was like he was slotted at the #1, which I am cool with because he is a great #1 when he is healthy. I just figured they would go with Olsen, I think he is a great TE and he is young, maybe there is plenty of time to build some rapport.
The last one is something I read from a TE fantasy post. I don’t remember where but I have read it in a few places and the fantasy projections have Olsen projected at 0 points.
by William Ryan Harrell on Sep 8, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
" Jimmy Clausen had by far the best game of his pro career. "
What did he do? Not throw the ball. What can you say about Clausen that hasn’t been said about the Maryland Terps jerseys..Horrible, overrated and overexposed..
He completed 68.5% of his passes, had a solid YPA average, threw a TD, didn’t turn the ball over and finished with a QB rating of 107.6.
I know it’s become the soup du jour to bash Clausen at every available opportunity, but the fact is if Cam duplicates those same numbers you’re so dismissive of we’ll have fans screaming “NEXT PEYTON MANNING!!!!!!!!!” on Monday morning.
What can I say? I like consistency
by James Dator on Sep 8, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I think it works..
like this on the Bash Scale..#5 Jake Delhomme; #4 Hurney’s draft decisions; #3 MacBern; #2 Jimmy Clausen; and at #1 spot…..(fill in here)
#1 spot is the AE trade
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I'd say #2 is AE Trade and #1 is Jimmy.
At least on the bash scale…
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You're probably right.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I dunno...the AE move tends to have a life of its own.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Yeah it does.
It’s bigger than bitching about DJdrinker and UPS.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Local boy.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the Everette Brown trade?
In which we gave up a first rounder and he has officially busted?
This comment section has officially been Tater'd.
Busted his ass right onto the waiver wire.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It should be the EB trade...
But you know just as well as I do that more people bash AE than they do EB.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Yeah, I know it
Doesnt make sense to me… what did AE do to deserve it?
This comment section has officially been Tater'd.
He was f-ing born, Tater.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
#1 would probably be Everette if he were still with us.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Jeff. Davidson.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
In reading that, my kidneys started hurting..
Haha!
"Buy the ticket, take the ride"
by SwankTheTank on Sep 8, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That happened too long ago for most people to bring up
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
And we're all pretty much in agreement on the issue.
I don’t think there’s anyone out there saying “well damn guys, you’re being really hard on ol’ Rae Rae.”
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody but Rae Rae himself...
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Nobody want's to play with Rae Rae anymore.
This make Rae Rae sad.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Rae Rae very sad panda indeed...
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
lol
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
There's more to it than the raw numbers.
We were still hiding him, having watched that game numerous times.
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~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt
Not saying the guy was Joe Montana… but for that one game he played very well. It was the other 9 starts he was terrible.
He did play well.
And its not a coincidence that that was his only win as a starter.
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~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The AZ game gave me some hope for JC.
I have little now, but he looked a hell of a lot better in that game than he did in any of the others.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me also add that most of that production came in the first half.
We went classic Davidson/Foxball in the second half, run the ball and try to kill the clock.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 8, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I LIKED THOSE JERSEYS!!! UNDER ARMOUR IS AWESOME!!!
by clemsonPANTHERSnascarKBandBK on Sep 8, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The jersey wasn't so terrible...it was the helmet that was awful.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
eh...
I think they were both pretty horrid.
Has to give them some kind of unfair disorienting advantage, too
You mean the Maryland flag?
I thought it looked confusing. I guess that’s one way to win—keep the other team from really seeing anything.
"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson
No MacBern
James, I read that Geoff Hangartner is starting.
Where did you see that? I have no confirmation at this time.
Bernardeau has been limited in practice due to his toe, so Hangartner has been running with the 1st team but as far as I know MacBern is still slated to start at this time
Carolina Growl Posted it
Rivera also said Geoff Hangartner will start at RG Sunday.
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
suddenly
The world seems a lighter bit brighter.
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 8, 2011 4:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
...as long as Piggy is godlike
BTW, where did the nickname originate?
Former Panthers center Jeff Mitchell affectionately started the nickname.
Probably because he was a bit loose before he got in an NFL weight-room, but I don’t know for sure.
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by ERL on Sep 9, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm physically unable to complete a full somersault...
But, I will try a cartwheel if this is true.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride"
Pass Rush for the Cardinals
James, what options do the Cardinals have for their pass rush? If I remember correctly, they are pretty big on Schofield.
"Let the haters keep hating and I'll keep cashing the checks"-Steve Smith
Their pass rush was spead out a lot last year
Calais Campbell had 6 sacks, while Joey Porter, Clark Haggans and Darnell Dockett had 5 sacks each.
They have a lot of pieces they the passer. This preseason they had 10 different players record a sack
Yahoo - Panthers Team Report
RG Geoff Hangartner, who was signed earlier this week, will start for the Panthers at the spot formerly occupied by Geoff Schwartz. Schwartz wound up on injured reserve with a hip injury, prompting the Panthers to add Hangartner and Max Jean-Gilles.
Please God let them be right.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Carolinagrowl just confirmed that Hangartner will start at RG.
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by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 8, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
x
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Since Hangartner will start...and his nick is Piggy...
…does that make this scenario “unexplained bacon?”
Hopefully with Hangartner starting he does well
and is able to hold on to the starting position for the rest of the year. Make MJG the back up and only bring in MacBern to block for extra kicks.
Rules and Regulations of the Game: 89, Bottom Line
But then all of our kicks will get blocked...
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I got it:
“Okay MacBern, were gonna need you to grab a couple of these:
and go stand by those pretty girls over there, and when we do something good, jump around and yell okay?"
Rules and Regulations of the Game: 89, Bottom Line
by John Chilton on Sep 8, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rookie DT's
I hope they have good cardiovascular endurance.
I find it so surprising they haven't made a move yet at DT...
I really hope they have a plan…cause 3 DTs are not going to work for long…
Rocking the boat and righting the ship! Making the moves needed...Go Panthers!!!
After this first game we can sign guys without guarenteeing any money.
So I think we’ll see at least one DT signed after Sunday.
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~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
analysts were talking up mcclain as a possible third round steal
But then he didn’t show up for camp on time and hasn’t been overly impressive. I’m hoping he can show a little of what he’s capable of. But yeah I agree, we’ll pick up somebody after week one
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 8, 2011 5:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rivera stated that they had only planned to have 3 DTs active for the Cards in the first place
Hence no rush to sign a 4th for the game.
I know Fua wasn't excatly known for his endurance
I think you’ll see a lot more of CJ and Hardy in the middle than we’re used to.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
And some nickel 2-4-5 with CJ and Hardy as the down lineman.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking forward to that look and also the 5-2.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Which would consist of every one of our active D-lineman. Lol.
Yup, whatever it takes to stop the run. If you can’t do that then yer skrewed.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I expect to see far more of the Oakie than the 2-4-5 ERL suggested
you can’t have CJ and Hardy on the field working the interior THAT much.
btw...
…with our existing DLine, the Oakie is probably our best option…’til we find a DT or two to give us greater flexibility.
we rotate 2 of our 3 DT's in the middle, along with one of our bigger DE's...
…while putting Hardy/CJ/Norwood (since the first two would probably line up inside) on one of the outside DLine positions; then put one of of our SLB’s on the other side. That would keep our DT’s from constantly facing double-teams, which will lower their wear and tear over the course of the game.
If our secondary can contain Fitzgerald, we'll have a shot.
It just seems Kolb can throw up a duck and Fitz will always catch it. If we can keep Fitz away from those miracle catches, we’ll have a chance.
Actually, to hurry Kolb into throwing a duck, the D-Line needs to get pressure. Hmmmm…
"Buy the ticket, take the ride"
Kind of the opposite of our gameplan when we saw them in the playoffs, right?
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Stopping the run will be the key for this game
"Let the haters keep hating and I'll keep cashing the checks"-Steve Smith
After Beanie they dont have much other than Chester Taylor
Hopefully we dont forget about Todd Heap at TE – they may use him more than we think they will.
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Rotoworld said Taylor won't be ready by Sunday,
so he is not playing.
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by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 8, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Heap is still very capable too.
Damn! So many angles to this “winning a game” thing!
"Buy the ticket, take the ride"
He was born out here in Mesa, AZ even played at Arizona State.
With him returning home, they’ll surely want to use they’re local boy.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride"
Well they have to now that Jeff King is there
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by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 8, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
No, not really.
Which is interesting being that their HC is a former NFL TE.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
They haven't had decent TE's to really use before..
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by SwankTheTank on Sep 8, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They used them as blockers mostly.
That’s how their OC rolls.
But now that they have a receiving TE it would be silly to not send him out.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")
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by The Duke Dude on Sep 8, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it ties right in with all of the above.
If we force them into throwing more often, by stopping the run, the ducks may very well be flying.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride"
In the game last season, Munnerlyn shadowed him for much of the game.
He had 9 for 125. Didn’t score. But I think we need to put Gamble on him and give safety and LB help when applicable.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Panthers do a good job of stopping the run game, and isolating Fitzgerald, we stand a good chance to win this game
"Let the haters keep hating and I'll keep cashing the checks"-Steve Smith
They love to hit Fitz on the crossing routes. I remember in 2009, when we avenged the playoff loss with a solid drubbing, we played a 4-1-6, and that 6th DB was a safety, lined up as a LB to defend the crosses and drags. It worked.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That could be Godfrey's role for this game.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 8, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems that Beason didn't practice today.
Wonder what that means?
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by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 8, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions
I hope so
we need his energy and leadership out there.
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by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 8, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It would surely give us much what we were lacking.
You could clearly tell he wasn’t on the field this preseason.
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Fitz will get his catches but if we can limit him to under 120 and a TD then we should be good
by clemsonPANTHERSnascarKBandBK on Sep 8, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
The only teams last season to keep him at mediocre-Fitzgerald numbers were:
Week 1 – St. Louis, 3 rec, 43 yds, 1 TD
Week 3 – Oakland, 2 rec, 26 yds, 1 TD
Week 4 – San Diego, 7 rec, 56 yds, 0 TD
Week 6 – Seattle, 3 rec, 30 yds, 0 TD
Week 11 – San Fran, 4 rec, 37 yds, 0 TD
Week 12 – St. Louis, 4 rec, 61 yds, 0 TD
Week 16 – Dallas, 1 rec, 26 yds, 0 TD
Of course they had their own carousel of ineffective QB’s throwing at him. I suppose that’s a big factor in these numbers.
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as a Fitzgerald fantasy owner last season
those weeks sucked
3 for 30 against Seattle???
I’d have committed hari kiri.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 8, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, kind of bothersome that goofy ass dude from Fordham (Skelton, is it?) hit him 9 times for 125 against us. But that was last season.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
...
DA: I stopped throwing to Fitzy because he wouldn’t take his shit serious and get open.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
DA was pissed...
I remember any news channel you’d turn to down here, this is all you saw that week. Haha!
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That's not in his DNA.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
How can he talk to him when he is 20 yds behind him after each play? :)
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He never cracked when most of the country was talking shit about his mishaps with Mississippi State.
I think Cam will be surprisingly cool and collected for his first official NFL start.
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by SwankTheTank on Sep 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know this is not Panthers related
Looks like Manning is out 2-3 months
"Let the haters keep hating and I'll keep cashing the checks"-Steve Smith
Colt are going to be a painful place until then..
Collin will be adequate, but Manning IS that team.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride"
I picked up the Houston defense just for this week.
Figured their offense is going to suck having had only a week with Collins.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Very much related...
11/27/11: upgraded from doubtful to probable.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
...
Well, looks like im upping my 8 game win forecast to now 9. Wild card playoff run anyone?
Here are my win predictions for teams I think we beat this year. In no particular order they are; Titans, Vikings, Texans, Colts, Cardinals, 1 Tampa Bay win, Jags, Redskins and/or a Lions or Bears upset. I could see us beating all these teams this year.
by PantherTrain on Sep 8, 2011 4:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
possible
although i think us upsetting Tampa Bay at home is a lot more probable.
by PantherTrain on Sep 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We get up for ATL
TB not as much anymore. But hell I will take either one of them.
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once again
The texan aren’t to be taken lightly. I don’t see us winning that game
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 8, 2011 6:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Okay....
First off, no way do we beat Tennessee OR Minnesota. Those two teams carry the best RBs in this league, and we had serious trouble stopping the rushing force that IS Reggie Bush. Oh, and Jonathan “I’m the guy who dries your tires at Auto Bell” Dwyer, too. Couldn’t stop him either. The Vikes and the Titans are gonna have about 34 hours of time-of-possession in those games.
Second, the Texans win that division whether Manning would have taken a single snap or not. Houston finished third in the league last year in total offense, largely due to Arian Foster, another great RB, and Andre Johnson, who we can’t cover if they let us field two extra DBs to do it. So we can’t beat them either. And we’re not beating the Colts at home. You know what Indy’s home record is over the last five years? Let me save you the time and just rofl right now. And Chicago?!?! I remember Chicago playing in an NFC Championship game not too long ago, didn’t they? Oh yeah, that’s because it was about 8 FREAKIN’ MONTHS AGO! Seriously, PT, do you watch football?
We maybe could win in ‘Zona, but that would be more a function of the offseason being so short and teams being unprepared than it would be the talent we have outplaying the Cards. We might could beat the Jags but, again, Del Rio seems to have gone off the deep end and it looks to me like he’s tanking the season for a shot at Luck. If we do win a divisional game it will likely be the last one, against a NO team that is resting starters for a playoff run. Washington is a total circus, seemingly inevitably, and I hope beyond all hope we can beat those clowns. So that’s four.
Your predictions seem to have no basis in reality. It’s like you just pulled out a poster-size picture of NFL helmets and threw darts at the poster to determine what our wins and losses would be.
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by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 8, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Devil's Advocate
I’d say we’d just stack the box against Johnson and Peterson, both of those teams have terrible/ rookie QBs and by the time we play them our run d will be better. People have been saying the Texans will win that division for a couple years now but the fact is their defense is terrible, this would probably still be the biggest upset, regardless. We have no idea what the colts will look like without manning, who’s been calling the plays for years now. Chicago have the worst offensive line in football. We beat zona last year with a worse team and I’m not buying into the Kolb hype.
I’m not saying it will be easy, or even probable, but beating these teams is not outside the realms of reality.
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by McHuff on Sep 8, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol I thought you were calling Kackalack the devil
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Really wish we could delete comments.
I see it would create some problems, but If we can do it within 30 seconds of posting it would help with double posts and such.
People can tell, when you Auto Bell.
hahaha so did I
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Hasselbeck and Donovan McNabb are most certainly not terrible/rookie QBs. They are both seasoned, experienced NFL veterans. I think they’ll have little trouble dealing with our young, unproven DBs.
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by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 8, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Ummmmm
And we’re not beating the Colts at home. You know what Indy’s home record is over the last five years?
Do you know who their qb has been every game for the last 5 years? Do you know he has called more plays in the last 5 years than their head coach? the loss of Manning is a huge difference maker against any team.
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No way we beat Tennesse or Minnnesota?
C’mon Kackalack, you’re basing this can’t win spiel against these teams on one aspect of the game. And it’s way too simple an argument. In order to swallow your spiel, we’d have to assume that the Panthers rush D will always be bad and that the other aspects of the game (like passing, special teams, and our own stout rushing attack) don’t kick in at all.
This isn’t an exact science. The Panthers will win games they shouldn’t and lose games they shouldn’t. But those two teams fall into the category of possible Ws. And if you don’t believe we can beat the Colts in Indy or Chicago here or any of our division opponents, you must have the same regard for the talent and coaching on this team that SIs Don Banks has. So sorry for you.
Technically speaking
Isn’t every game a POSSIBLE win? I’m talking more along the lines of what are PROBABLE wins, and given our schedule, I don’t see too many of those. Can we surprise someone? Sure. But I’m not going to speculate on which teams we can surprise.
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by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 8, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i very much doubt del rio is going for luck
Del rio is sacked this year unless the jags have a good season. I reckon a 5-11 for us this year. Not great but that’s me trying to be realistic. I agree that we can have a shot at the bucks. I’m hoping for better but pre-season hasn’t exactly inspired me. Maybe we get better but I think its wishful thinking to hope for a winning season p-train. Anyway I said my piece in the other thread
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 8, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This just in!
Colts have hired Peyton Manning, former QB for the same team, as their Offensive Coordinator.
Might as well right?
Unfortunate to say this
This will be the Texans division to lose this year
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I don't think it's that simple.
They have a history of choking, and to not win the division handily would be following the same pattern of behavior for the past several years.
The AFC South is up for grabs right now, I think every team has a legitimate shot at winning it.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 8, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
we got this..
Here are my 3 reasons qe will win this game. I spent a lot of time and research to come up with these reasons we will handily win this one. They are as follows;
1. Jeff Otah
2. Deangelo Williams
3. Cam Newton
Sorry for that being so lengthy. Next game please.
by PantherTrain on Sep 8, 2011 4:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
normally
I would say so, and his presence will go a great deal. But our MVPs this game will be Cam, D Will and Otah
by PantherTrain on Sep 8, 2011 4:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm gonna say...
Jordan Pugh (that’s right, Jordan Pugh), Mike Goodson (KR’s) and DLo.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna say
Newton, Shockey, Olsen, DWill, And CJ(he gonna knock Kolb into next week)
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
Total aside, for those wondering about Beason today
He had a sore foot, RIvera still expects him to play.
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by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 8, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I know how to play this game!
I’m going to say it’s because the scoreboard. As in we scored more points than the other team.
good points... can't rec out of principle...
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 8, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy I'm eager to see is "Tutu"
Not even gonna try and spell his full name. But at 6’3", 211 lbs., and faster than Lafell, he could be a very pleasant suprise. Plus spending last year with the Chargers he knows the system.
Jim
I doubt he plays much.
He’s had only a few days in the system, and he’s not a super talent, he’s a JAG with some high upside. Later in the year is when he’ll make his mark.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 8, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
There are a lot of people saying Tutu is fast??
I saw in during the NFL combine he was listed as 4.74’ish in the 40. That was very slow for the WR’s. Does anyone know if he had an injury during the combine? I was the first to suggest Tutu based on SD experience in the Panther’s offense and based on Rivera’s knowledge of him. He should not require a lot of rep’s to get up to speed. He probably knows the plays better than the other Panthers WR’s.
what a big girl
Beason: foot surgery including metal screw insertion- probable to play. MacBern: turf toe- out. That ladies and gents is called desire, heart and leadership.
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 8, 2011 6:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He is probably willing & wanting to go out and play with his turf toe,
I think Rivera is holding him out because he has more faith in Hangartner and wants to start him. He said MacBern would be there in an emergency.
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