One team's trash: More help at CB on the way?
by James Dator on Sep 7, 2011 11:50 AM EDT
Email
PrintThis morning we have yet another possible waiver pickup for the Carolina Panthers at cornerback with 2nd year player Trevard Lindley being cut by the Philadelphia Eagles today as they resigned Joselio Hanson to a two year contract. It's important to realize Lindley would have been a Sean McDermott selection during his final year in Philadelphia, and could add more depth to the already weak CB position.
A 4th round pick out of Kentucky in 2010, Lindley played in 11 games for the Eagles last year, starting one game. Over this time he amassed 23 tackles, 1 PDef and 1 INT. At 6-0, 178lbs he's larger than some of the CBs currently on the roster and due to his knowledge of McDermott's defense could contribute fairly quickly.
In looking at these waiver possibilities it's important not to compare them to Chris Gamble and Captain Munnerlyn at the top of the chart, but rather look at them in relation to R.J. Stanford and Josh Thomas at the bottom. In this way Lindley compares favorably, and I would be surprised if the Panthers didn't take another flier on a CB through waivers.
Lindley's stats after the jump
CAREER STATSMORE
Season
Team
Tackles
Interceptions
Fumbles
G
GS
Comb
Total
Ast
Sck
SFTY
PDef
Int
Yds
Avg
Lng
TDs
FF
2010
Philadelphia Eagles
11
1
23
22
1
0.0
--
1
1
8
8.0
8
0
0
TOTAL
23
22
1
0.0
0
1
1
8
--
8
0
0
111 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
One of the benefits of a 2-14 season
Is that we get the first crack at these guys. Almost all of our CBs are undersized and Lindley is definitely a big body for a CB. Bring him in!
Follow me on Twitter at @JakeHumphrey91
Jake, Lindley Is Very Thin, Not Very Physical, & Lacks Strength
At least he was at Kentucky, I didn’t focus on him much with Eagles last season.
He's got his issues, no doubt.
But it wouldn’t be off base to call him the CB version of Greg Hardy. He’s a very talented young player who had a first round grade before injuries in his senior year caused him to fall.
Follow me on Twitter at @JakeHumphrey91
by Jake Humphrey on Sep 7, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I am 5'6 and 162
I work out a lot, but that ahould tell you something if he is nearly 6 inches taller and only 15-16 pounds more than me. Speed, hell yeah, jamming receivers and playing physical hell no.
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
by gdhood on Sep 7, 2011 8:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Damn man you must either work out a lot or you're fat as hell lol
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 8, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
“I didn’t focus on him much with Eagles last season.”
Well, there wasn’t much to focus on. He didn’t play all that much.
Follow Bleeding Green Nation on Twitter & Facebook. Did you get your copy of the 2011 Eagles Annual yet?
This.
Lindley has some talent, but he hasn’t been able to put it together at all. Size is no good if you’re not physical, plus I’m not sure that he’s even better than R.J. Stanford (who btw should have been cut for Robert Mclain).
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 7, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Eagles wanted to him to fill out more and be the 2nd CB since Asante isn't a great tackler.
I don’t know if he couldn’t or they just didn’t give him enough time. But he was considered a first round pick before his senior season at Kentucky was plagued by injuries.
With a name like Lesbian I have to be awesome!
by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 7, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
*Eagles wanted him to*
With a name like Lesbian I have to be awesome!
by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 7, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
No help..
at DT but plenty of Pawns at DB..you’re still going to need push on the line and if you give a QB long enough to throw, he’ll find his target..
The available DT are Week 2 type veteran signings
If there were teams cutting recent highly drafted DT, we’d be claiming them too.
Follow me on Twitter at @JakeHumphrey91
by Jake Humphrey on Sep 7, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cheagles?
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
The Pringles… “one your Pop (the d-line) you just can’t stop”
by AZPantherfan on Sep 7, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Can't believe no one suggested "ThunderCats" yet.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
by Newsinz on Sep 7, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
LMAOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
i LOVE IT
Lopez: "I'll stop being lazy and go after every rebound"
Cat Scratch Reader -
Where Becoming Great is More like Collard Greens!
The awesomeness is great with this One.
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")
Jerry Richardson: "Bitch slapping the NFL one signing at a time" - MMA_Pitbull
by The Duke Dude on Sep 7, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
A little off topic
But since there seems to be a lot of nerdy types like myself, garbage pail kids movie is now streaming on netflix. A wonderful little taste of the mid late eighties, that I call the greatest years of my youth.
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
by gdhood on Sep 7, 2011 3:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah you're right
But my nerd emotions just felt the need to get it out there, lol.
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
by gdhood on Sep 7, 2011 8:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ahahaha
Our cheerleaders could be called the thunderbirds
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 7, 2011 7:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the chargles?
The San Carolina super flying pangles?
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 7, 2011 2:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
worth a look
would nt carolina need to cut someone? if so, do we really need two fullbacks on the roster?
I agree
But give them a couple of weeks. Cut Brockel if Shockey is still working out and sign Shock-monster to a longer deal. I think he and Olsen are a perfect combo.
by Panthster on Sep 7, 2011 12:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We don't need to extend an injury-prone vet.
He was supposed to be a stop-gap but we found Olsen.
Follow me on Twitter at @JakeHumphrey91
by Jake Humphrey on Sep 7, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
depends on what the money is to extend him
dont think they would extend him since we still have barnidge.
He was supposed to be a stop-gap but wefoundstole Olsen.
FTFY :-)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Yeah
That lol
Follow me on Twitter at @JakeHumphrey91
by Jake Humphrey on Sep 7, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea but when you have 2 TE threats
Teams are going to struggle to cover 2 talented TEs with smitty running deep and a rb coming out of the backfield. Shock is a force even when double teamed. They are not going to double team the lesser known-just as talented Olsen until he starts scoring… then we can just go back to Shock.
by Panthster on Sep 7, 2011 1:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Plus, TEs can be open without being open. If a LB or S has inside leverage, you throw it outside, and vice versa.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 7, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Barnidge will easily replace Shockey.
Why sign a vet like him when you might have a younger, better option?
A Healthy Shockey >>>> A Healthy Barnidge
He’s definitely younger, but I wouldn’t call him better. Shockey knows how to work a field.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 7, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If we develop Barnidge
he could be dangerous.
http://twitter.com/#!/TheeSteveJohns
https://www.facebook.com/TheeSteveJohnson
by Thee Steve Johnson on Sep 7, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
But at this point I’m not willing to say he’s better than Shockey.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 7, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I would not say that Olsen is not a known talent
Teams know who he is and that he is a very good receiver.
CAN'T WAIT!
The question is not how far. The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far is as needed? - El Duche
(minus the Bears)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I didn't say he was a "not known talent"
I believe I said he is a “lesser known-just as talented”
:-P
Yeah I don't think that is wrong, per se.
Olsen, before coming to Carolina, was probably considered in the 2nd or 3rd tier of starting TEs…bottom of the top 10, if you will. Mike Martz and his glorified arena offense certainly didn’t do him any favor from a production standpoint.
But I think its safe to say that he is going to be the leader or be second place in receptions, and probably 2nd in yards…Maybe first in TDs. Its interesting when you actually start throwing some numbers around…
Cam Newton will probably complete somewhere close to 250 passes. That would be roughly 55% of 450 passing attempts. (Teams will generally run around 1000 offensive plays in a season, and 450 attempts is assuming we run the ball 55% of the time [which would be wise].)
So with those 250 completions, how many will go to: WR1, TE1, TE2, WR2, WR3, WR4, HB1, HB2, HB3, and FB1?
Let’s identify those players and estimate how many receptions they will have…
WR1: Smitty, 70
TE1: Greg Olsen, 60
TE2: Jeremy Shockey, 30
WR2: Legedu Naanee, 25
WR3: Brandon LaFell, 20
WR4: Armanti Edwards, 15
HB1: DeAngelo Willams, 15
HB2: Jonathan Stewart, 10
HB3: Mike Goodson, 25
FB1: Jerome Felton, 5
That is 275 receptions. That is 25 more than I projected, but I projected these one after the other without taking into account a running total…did it by feel, you could say (preemptive TWSS).
I don’t know who you would take catches away from to get down to 250. Maybe Smitty and Olson having 52% of all catches is too high, I don’t know. But I’m beginning to ramble.
Back to your point…Olsen has been a TE capable of having a probe owl season, under the right conditions, which most of us think he has found here in Carolina.
With 60 catches, and a career average per reception of 10.2, that would be 612 yards. Our offense is probably going to be a bit more vertical, so I’d expect that average to come up to 11.7 or so (I just added a yard and a half to 10.2), which would be 702 yards (on 60 rec’s).
Olsen has averaged 5 TDs per season in his 4 years in the league. This season we should see at least a slight increase to that. I’d say 7 TDs is a fairly safe estimation. (He had 8 in 2009—a year before Martz arrived.)
So with a line like 60 recs, 702 yards and 7TDs, he could be in the pro bowl, depending on the production of some other guys like Finley, Davis, Witten and maybe Cooley.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 7, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good analysis ERL. Chud uses the TE like no other OC. I see Olsen with a big year (75 for 900, 9 TDs)
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Philly's cuts are not the area I'd be pining for DBs from
Their secondary blew ass last year. Yes, they picked up DRC and Aso, but prior to that they were horrendous and was the reason their defense didn’t work properly.
I wouldn't only attribute it to their secondary, although it was bad
Their LB corps has been shite for sometime.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 7, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Still No DT
I am surprised they aren’t looking at Gerard Warren… They just re-signed Considine, like they need anymore Safeties…
Gerard Warren was cut by the NE Pats
6’4" 330 lbs had 28 tackles and 3.5 sacks last yr in 16 games. 33 yrs old though.
Follow me on Twitter @manu4t
i hope
i hope tom. i get on here and read that the cats do exactly that….i think the dt spot was obviously the cats biggest weakness in preseason…
by blackcatfeeva on Sep 7, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It's curious that you used the word 'though' concerning Warren's age.
Our biggest off season free agent move was signing DT Ron Edwards(now gone for the season, of course) to a 3 year contract, which means he will be 35 at the end of said contract. Furthermore, many have been beating the drum to bring in Jamal(35) or Pat(38) Williams to fill our gaping holes at DT. In other words, the fact that he just turned 33 shouldn’t keep us from giving him a call.
by Derek Leazer on Sep 7, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The reason for all the attention to depth at CB and Safety but none to DT is that
in the future, offenses will no longer run the ball. That’s right, it will be all passing. The Panthers are just ahead of the curve, defensively speaking. Forget the 3-4 defense. RR is about to unveil the 2-4 defense with 5 DBs on every play. That will surely get Jordan Pugh on the field.
I will probably just watch arena football, then.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
Same here.
They have cooler team names, like the Iowa Barnstormers and the San Jose Sabercats.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
...
And sluttier ‘cheerleaders.’
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 7, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If James predicts it, it must be true!
Hey James I was thinking, you should post an article that the Lions and Panthers has been in trade talks involving Ndamukong Suh for Turnstile :)
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
Marty can use the Scwartz...
“Bernie IS the guard you’re looking for.”
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 7, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yoda is Obi Wan’s mini me, albeit green.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 7, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Slamming the Panthers
Has anyone seen this video yet? http://bit.ly/mQBpvL This guy is completely slamming the Panthers social media, and i kind of agree with him. Any thoughts??
He wouldn’t say that crap if he visited CSR…
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
Sure but CSR isn't produced by the Panthers
He’s spot on, the Panther’s social media is pathetic. I would be very interested in what he would suggest to fix the issue.
I never visit it mostly for the lack of intelligent conversation on there.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 7, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats cause we are busybeingawesome here
by Panthster on Sep 7, 2011 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 7, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Easy fix for the Panthers
Hire Bill Voth’s new company to consult with them.
First use 2 mikes for the interviews so you don't lose sound in the videos
Second, have the tweets be about more than pimping stuff on the website.
Third, have Hurney start tweeting.
Forth, actually produce interesting videos.
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
This guy has some great points
They really need to get the marketing department on this shit. It’s pretty sad = \
Completely random....
….and off subject but I’ve grown to respect and be amazed at the vast knowledge of the users on this blog.
Does anyone know anything about the new NFL Sunday Ticket option on PS3 now? My main concern is, it just says 14 games and I want to ensure that Panther games are included. Anyone got any insight?
I could have heard wrong...
But I heard it cost like $400.00.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 7, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
and a bit of personal opinion
that’s a shit ton of cash to drop on something that you’ll have to stream.
but to be fair, it is comparable to the money you spend going to a bar, I just don’t get good enough bandwidth to rely on streaming.
Yeah.
I’m not really concerned with watching games live, because you can really only focus on one game at a time, so…
What I have done the last three years is get NFL Game Rewind at NFL.com. On Monday, in my spare moments, I can start to watch ALL the games from that past week. Obviously I watch the Panthers’ game live, or almost live, but all the other games, its nice to be able to watch them as I please. And their interactive features are cool. Like skipping to a specific play, or the ‘coaches’ camera, which shows you the whole field so you can actually see the safeties pre-snap, and the WRs and DBs as they run down the field.
It costs $50, but that is $3 a week for 15 games.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 7, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think - - - -
The 14 games refers to every Sunday excluding Sunday night and Monday night which are nationally telecast. If the Panther game, or games are being telecast on your local channel then it will be “blacked out” on NFL Sunday ticket.
Jim
Thanks guys...
….the cost is going to be four payments of roughly $85 – equalling $339 before taxes and stuff. I just really want to watch the games this year. I usually get DTV, but I got rid of that service and rely soely on streaming now. I just didn’t want to rely on finding a good (free) stream on the internet for the games. Thanks for the responses. I’m still thinking about it. :)
(See my comment above, posted at 3:36EST)
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 7, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That doesn't sound like a bad idea...
….cheaperest way possible is always better for me. :) I live in San Diego, so I wouldn’t be able to watch Carolina until Monday. I wonder if I’m patient enough?
I think the games are available at 12:00am on Monday.
So being on the left coast, you’d be able to start it at 9PM. That still might be pushing it. But the cool thing about it is you have football to watch all week, instead of just getting a bombardment of it on Sunday.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 7, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
From my limited knowledge, you can only get the stream from PS3 if you have no DirecTv access…like if your apartment complex doesn’t allow you to have a dish or you have no clear view of the southern sky.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
what do you do
when you dont have a ps3 and your apt complex will not allow dtv dishes?
go to a sports bar lol
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
let me rephrase then
What do you do when you work until all the games have concluded, cant run dtv at home or work, and have no legit way of streaming online? and also live out of the panthers market.
You don't have to have a PS3 you can use a computer
but the signup process does ask if you are eligible to receive DTV service.
if you make something idiot proof, the world will make a better idiot.
Just say that you're not eligible.
“A little white lie don’t hurt nobody.” – Forrest Gump
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Yeah. For serial.
You know they’re not going to follow up with everyone’s claim. That would literally require them to visit everyone’s home, call DTV, etc.
No way they do that.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
And besides…why would they say “You know what sir, we know you’re lying to us, so we’re not going to take your money for our horrendously over-priced service.”?
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Don't turn your back on the depth chart!
Monday’s headline was:
“Panthers elect to stand pat at cornerback, not bring in any veteran players”
By Tuesday afternoon they had brought in Darius Butler and Josh Thomas.
Wednesday morning they’re looking at Trevard Lindley.
If a team is carrying five corners and they’re changing three, my hasty math makes that a 60% turnover by “standing pat”?
Confusing, but sure is fun to watch!
Lindley would be a great pickup the guy has a lot of upside but the eagles just want more physical play in the secondary since Asante misses tackles. Trevard was suppose to be a really good prospect and could have started really soon but the eagles had some great CBs fall to them. Still not sure why they picked Joselio over him though..
More like...
Good-Bye R.J. Stanford…MacBern is still a valuable, versatile back-up…And yes it pains me to say that, but it’s true…
More like a liability.
Calling turnstile valuable is like saying Derek Anderson doesn’t take his shit seriously.
by Thaddeus_Griffin on Sep 7, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
MacBern a versatile back-up?
You’ve got to be kidding. That dude sucks and is a waste of space.
And that's being nice
Lopez: "I'll stop being lazy and go after every rebound"
Cat Scratch Reader -
Where Becoming Great is More like Collard Greens!
by cedaghost on Sep 8, 2011 12:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
a cactus would be cheaper
and just as versatile.
by Floods on Sep 8, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
