Panthers will use Charles Godfrey as Nickel CB
by BW Smith on Sep 5, 2011 8:43 PM EDT
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In a move that many fans will see as unusual, the Panthers have elected not to sign any free agent CB's to replace the departed Richard Marshall. It's not because there weren't any CB's available, as the oft-discussed Joselio Hanson was cut by the Philadelphia Eagles earlier this week, but it's because none of the CB's available provide enough of what the coaching staff are looking for to justify giving away a roster spot.
The reason why the Panthers aren't going to sign anyone is because quite frankly, the players that are available are all too similar to current Panthers CB Captain Munnerlyn. So, rather than have two Captain Munnerlyns on the roster, the Panthers have elected to go with a musical chairs version of DB's when the defense is in the nickel package.
According to an article by Steve Reed, Charles Godfrey will move to nickel back, Jordan Pugh will move to FS, and Sherrod Martin will move to SS any time the Panthers elect to go with the nickel package on defense. While none of us truly know how this experiment will play out, it's obvious that Rivera is confident with this decision since he opted go go this way instead of signing a free agent to play the nickel. During the pre-season, the Panthers experimented with Pugh as the nickel back, but it seems that Rivera is happier with Godfrey filling that role at the present time.
Godfrey has experience playing CB from his college days at Iowa, but he hasn't played the position since entering the NFL. This doesn't seem to be much of a concern to the coaches, otherwise they wouldn't feel confident enough to roll with this plan once the regular season starts this coming Sunday.
I truly have no idea how this is going to pan out, but I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to Rivera and trust that he knows what he's doing, because his knack for building top-notch defenses using average players gives me hope that he is making the right move.
What do you think Panthers fans? Is this an experiment that you see working out, or is Rivera just another mad scientist trying to turn lead into gold?
Editor's note: Hat tip to rscott94 for posting the link to Reed's article that led to this story.
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Rivera is really high on Pugh. Called him one of our best defenders. It isn’t conventional but considering most of the CB’s were small like Cap i think it is best case. I suspect we address CB next off season rather in FA or draft. Somebody over 4’0 hopefully
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by BW Smith on Sep 5, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love Cap but you only need ONE CB like him on your team. Especially in our division
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That picture is great
Godfrey looks like the squirrel off Ice Age chassing that acorn
by rscott94 on Sep 5, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
LOL that is a great way to describe it.
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What makes it even better...
Is who he’s flying over. None other than his new teammate Shockey. =)
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by jamiedk on Sep 5, 2011 10:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rec'd
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by Disciple of Carolina on Sep 5, 2011 10:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BAMF has been a, well BAMF at building defenses so far, I’m just gonna have to assume that he knows what he is doing.
by doug2626 on Sep 5, 2011 8:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Why did we not get Brandon Meriweather then?
He could have filled in at safety when Godfrey went to CB
by Smith is alegend on Sep 5, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
I think Brandon had a choice of where he wanted to go not just a waiver claim player
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Oh ok
He should have wanted to come here anyway
by Smith is alegend on Sep 5, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
How so?
If I had a choice between playoff contender or rebuilding, I would clearly take going to a playoff caliber team.
He played at the U
Beason, Shockey, and Olsen should have talked him into it. Haha
by Smith is alegend on Sep 5, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol nothing wrong with that thinking
We couldn't give him a starting spot
And as a vested veteran, he was free to sign anywhere. Plus Rivera seems to be pretty high on Pugh.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
And he likes to play like he wants to play
Sloppy routs and questionable coverage. If Belichick cut him, what makes you think BAMF would put up with that for a second?
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True
I was just thinking that we could have taken a chance on him. Although, I like Godfrey and Martin as our safeties.
by Smith is alegend on Sep 5, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be awesome if he fit here.
But when Hoodie cuts you when you are an all pro, you are going to a team with player coaches, not system coaches. I really believe we are a system team now, and I am honestly more comfortable with it.
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I like the move
I like the idea of Godfrey at CB, especially considering that the options out there were pretty underwhelming. Overall, I think it’s an ok move. I don’t think Pugh, Martin and Godfrey will be any worse than Martin, Godfrey, and some waiver wire pickup. Considering this will also save a roster spot that we might desperately need for OL/DL depth, I’ll take it.
by ppfcpp on Sep 5, 2011 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think it can work well. My only fear is how Godfrey is really good at getting caught out of position and consequently gets burned quite a bit. I’m not all that worried though. Pugh should do just fine at FS and Godfrey, after acclimating to the position, should be fine as well.
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I'm not worried at all about Pugh about FS.
In fact he very well could be better at it than Godfrey. However I think Pugh could be a very solid nickelback as well, and I’m a little apprehensive about Godfrey at CB. We’ll just have to see how it goes, Rivera does know what he’s doing. Perhaps Godfrey will be a better nickelback than safetey and we’ll have all our best players on the field.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 5, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It will be nice...
when we blitz him from the corner tho.
by Panthster on Sep 6, 2011 11:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
at first I marked down that this would be a disaster, but here's the thing:
Godfrey is out of position because he cheats over to one receiver too often. When he’s put on one target, as a nickleback often is, this no longer becomes a problem. Only thing that worries me is I find his man coverage and tackling skills to be very lacking. I hope he can pull it off, but will remain skeptical until he proves otherwise.
You find Godfrey's tackling skills to be lacking?
I think he is one of the most solid tacklers on the team.
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by Tater596 on Sep 6, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the perception comes from the game against Cleveland
Where Godfrey became the chocolate starfish of the highlight reel.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 6, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe I should rephrase.
He can tackle, but he commonly has a poor angle due to being out of position when playing safety. As we all know, this helped aid a lot of the giant runs against us last season.
lol'd at chocolate starfish
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wtf is a choclate starfish?
And I agree he’s a solid tackler, I saw him come up multiple times and stop a receiver dead where he stood. He does take bad angles occassionaly though, like many players.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 6, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
oh
I could have lived my entire life without knowing that.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 7, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
They forgot ‘dirt star’ on their list of synonyms.
But I suppose that is still similar to chocolate starfish. Mm. Quite.
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by ERL on Sep 8, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Godfrey's positioning
I’ve noticed the same from Godfrey. But I wonder if his role isn’t simplified when he’s shifted into nickel coverage. We know he’s an athlete. His rookie year, Smith commented on his man coverage and defensive instincts in practice. However, I notice that cornerbacks on his side play much more cautiously than on Sherrod’s side. Almost like they’re not sure he’s got their back. Safety is as much a chess game as it is a physical matchup (see Mike Minter, Chris Harris). Godfrey in coverage may enhance a strength and cover for a weakness—especially in nickel down & distance packages.
I think we're going to see Godfrey get a few sacks, and a pick or two this year in the nickel.
He could have close to a pro bowl year.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 6, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
And he'll still be playing safety for us,
so it’s not like he’s coming off the field. He’s a legit 3-down player, and if we get some more recognition a Pro Bowl could come his way even if he doesn’t play great. I think a situation similar to 2009 where Williams made the Pro Bowl even though he was better in 2008.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 6, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm hoping Godfrey will work out in pass coverage, but I'm kind of excited to see how he'll do
in the run game while at nickel. Many teams try to force teams into the nickel so they can run. Godfrey might alleviate that mismatch.
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Hopefully Godfrey snags a few more
interceptions this year. He seems like he has decent hands so I’m excited to see what he can do at CB.
Does anyone know what is up with Brandon Hogan?
Panthers.com has him on the PUP list. I assume that means that there’s still a chance he plays this year, but does anyone know roughly when that would be? If they are expecting to have Hogan come in and contribute around October, that could be added incentive to not pick up another CB
I know earliest he can return is Oct 23 against Washington
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I'll be at that game!
Would love to have that be Hogans premiere. It does make sense to only keep the guys we have and save the cash for injury replacements and another DT if BAMF is high on Hogan. It may bite us in the ass, but that’s just football.
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Also as Gantt and others have said Vets are on the hook for the entire contract until after week 2. We could sign some old Vets with injury history then. If they go down just cut bait
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just off the cuff
they have to decide in 6 weeks to activate him or IR him, IIRC
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
I have heard he could be ready by the beginning of October
Lets hope this is true. I think he will do well for the Panthers.
by Smith is alegend on Sep 5, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
What position do we take in the first round next year. CB,WR,DT
right now I am leaning towards CB barely. Captain is pretty good though. I am kind of conflicted on this.
IDK. I am still pretty high on Gettis. and Smith could hang around for a year or two before we need to get anyone
We have a stable of potential at WR right now.
you never know how players will come back from acl injuries though...
and to quote Bill Parcell, “potential means you ain’t done shit yet”
didnt mean to sound like a dick with that comment lol
but its a true statement
Agreed
Though I wouldn’t be surprised if the Panthers got all googly eyed over the next DT to light up opposing QBs like Fairly did last year.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Sep 5, 2011 10:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would take alshon or blackmon if either of them are there when we draft
by JG123 on Sep 5, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Id love Blackmon. Smith is getting old and we need to be looking for a number 1 WR now. Or else we will be left without any top tier WR’s. Blackmon could be that guy day one
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What do you think we would do with Steve Smith. trade him or keep him for a year.
If we keep him which WR on our roster fails and is cut.
Would still like Kalil if we can get him
but Blackmon would be awesome.
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I take Alshon J over Blackmond
better route runner.
Who has the better hands?
Not trying to be snarky, but whoever has the softest hands is the guy I want.
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cant really go wrong with either one
but I have watched Alshon more than Blackmon and Alshon has incredibly soft hands from what i have watched….
I have not seen a lot of either one of them
But Alshon seems like a position reciever to me. Id take Blackmon over him he seems more complete to me.
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by Thee Steve Johnson on Sep 6, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
111 receptions for 1,782 yards and 20 touchdowns last season for Blackmon. Those are grown ass man numbers. Id take him over Alshon but i like Alshon size better
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Grown ass man numbers indeed...
I would be ubber happy with either guy
Oklahoma ST offense reminds me a lot of Texas Tech
, very pass happy. How many texas tech and oklahoma receivers have successful careers in the nfl?
actually because of his vertical
And his ability to adjust in the air blackmon has a bigger hit box than plaxico does. Sports science did a thing on him dring a game one day. Either way they both will be damn good imo. But broyles may be even better than eitherof them.. I just have that feeling.
by braves&panthers4ever on Sep 5, 2011 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that would be impressive considering Blackmon is only 6’1. He is listed at the top with Alshon second and broyles is lower down in the first round.
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I'll take Alshon.
Just better all around player imo.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 5, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Id like his 6’4 size paired with Newton Shockey and Olsen and from SD history id say Chud would too. They like big targets.
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Kalil will likely be selected in the top 3
Johnathan Martin wouldn’t be bad, as he along the Stanford Oline have given up only 13 sacks in 2 years.
it all depends on where we r picking at and the talent available there
but i think i would pick a Wr to put as many weapons around our qb as possible to help him succeed. Especially with the talents at the position this year like Justin Blackmon, Alshon Jefferies, and Ryan Broyles you cant really go wrong and we should be able to be in the position to grab one of them. And if we arent, then we really must do well this year. With Rivera as our coach our defense will always be solid.
We have 4 WRs on the current roster who are in their first or second year in the league.
Unless they all flop, there’s no need to take another WR. Personally, I’d either look DT, or possibly find a LT to replace Gross in a year or two and provide Otah insurance until then.
I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted on the OL with our first pick.
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Carolina signed Frank Kearse whom Miami just released...
He’s a 7th round DT who going to be our backup NT. He was released to make room for a new addition, but the Dolphins were hoping to sneak him on the PS. He’s 6’4" 315 and hopefully can be a good addition for your team. If he gets cut later, you can expect the Dolphins to snatch him back up.
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So now we are going with 3 rookie DT's?
Ahahahahahaha!!! Screw it! BAMF is all in and I am loving it!!!
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maybe a vet will come week 2
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I have to think at least one will.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe signing off the waivers will motivate the players we have to step up their game.
It’s like, look we can hire any bum off the street to do what you’re doing, you better play your ass off if you want to keep this job.
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Vets come a a much less risky price after week 2. So it is very possible we pick somebody up if we are struggling bad at DT or elsewhere
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The only problem with that is
That our current DT’s ARE the bums off the street.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
well you have to keep Kearse for 3 weeks at least...
He’s a developmental guy, but it’s telling that Miami kept him over a more established and proven backup NT (at least at first). He has flashed throughout camp, though it’ll be interesting how he transitions to the 4-3. In any case, he was a guy that most Miami fans were hoping made the team.
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hes coming in for a workout tues. and hopes to sign then. earlier reports were premature
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by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 5, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i did smoke a little fua, so we will see
How high we really are on him. Jk of course. But I think we have a great group of talent evaluators on the staff now. Not to mention that BAMF’S main focus is on actually teaching the guys he has to be better. Certain coaches can get more out of guys than others and BAMF is one of them. I do really think we need to focus on our line’s over the next couple drafts tho. We are aging in a couple of the oline spots and we could really use the depth otherwise. Besides, give our guy more time to throw and more recievers can get open, give their guy less time to throw and our cb’s are less likely to be beaten. We have a lot of quality in the other spots (wr, cb, s, rb, te, etc…) but not too many big play makers. Given the opportunity by their respective line’s they are exponentially better.
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He better be high on them
Hell, they were both drafted in the 3rd round so they are expected to produce. Hopefully, both of them understand their role and step up their game.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Sep 5, 2011 10:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kearse nickname is Big Spoon
seems the first few weeks of school he ate everything with a spoon cause he couldn’t find the forks. Sounds like a good guy with a lot of personality and big. Developmental and will need to improvement his technique under good coaching.
Bet he says "Duh" a lot, too.
Sic ’em, Spoon!
Haha
This had me rolling around laughing for awhile
by passthedamnchipsdavidson on Sep 6, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I've noticed one disturbing general trend in the last 6 months since Rivera has taken over the helm...
I really would describe it as fanatical how some people treat the decisions made by the coaching staff and front office. If Rivera makes a decision, any decision, he’s “confident” in whatever that decision was. I’m not trying to come down against him, but let’s be realistic here. The guy isn’t a miracle worker nor is he going to be infallible. Specifically regarding this move, I’m not sure Rivera is “confident” about his guys so much as he’s making do with what he has once he realized there was nothing out there.
Bringing in Pugh on nickle situations says things three:
1) They really like Pugh and they want to get him on the field.
2) They do not like any of our backup CBs.
3) They see Godfrey as a better CB than our back up CBs.
I don’t see this as a “confidence” thing. It’s just min/max-ing the talent (or lack thereof) you have. And there’s always the chance this could be a mistake. We’ve been hearing for a while now that they wanted to make a move at CB, but since they were unable to do anything at that position, they have to deal with what they’ve got.
Basically, if they were “confident” about their CB situation, they never would have been looking to fill that position.
by aceofsween on Sep 5, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe we didn't claim Kearse Reed is working on it:
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According to a Panthers official, Frank Kearse has NOT been claimed by the Panthers. So, scratch that earlier tweet.
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by John Chilton on Sep 5, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how about the time they are saying...
“The dolphins tried to sneak on their practice squad…wait [whispering] …that Kearse guy sucks. Carry on”
Person said he spoke to Kearse himself. How does a player think he’s been picked up and then the team denies it? Exuberant agent maybe? Just makes you wonder what the F is going on.
That is crazy...
A Dolphins reporter actually spoke to Kearse and Kearse told him he was claimed. In any case, I hope he stays in Miami.
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by John Chilton on Sep 5, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Three week seat warmer at best. The “big” name vet is still on his way. I hope . . . .
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I was think one week!
Rivera is thinking…we can get through Arizona and then pick up a guy where I don’t have to guarantee his contract. I bet that fact is really chapping the ass of a number of vets right now
Sounds like he's getting his best players on the field...
Don’t forget, we will be in the nickel or dime a good bit…well I hope we can force some 3rd and longs. We also play a number of teams that love to sling it.
Speaking of next years draft.....CB or WR??
I think we should go corner….and cliff harris outta oregon is a gamer…i know he has off the field issues but rivera might be just what he needs….what yall think?
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by Justin704 on Sep 5, 2011 10:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
To me, it depends on where we pick and who's on the board.
First off, if he’s there, I don’t see any way we leave LT Matt Kalil on the draft board. We need a first round talent OL, and Kalil could start his first year at RT (like a lot of rookies do), and we could slide Otah in to RG. Starting in 2013, we could move Kalil to LT and put Gross in at RT and let him ride out his career at RT.
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Kalil would likely get picked if he was there if not then i think it falls on best player at position of need. Rather thats CB or WR or even DT if the quality is there
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I could be wrong, but I don’t think there are many quality DT’s in next year’s draft class. We’re most likely going CB or WR if we don’t get Kalil IMO.
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*Forgot to add...
Someone who would be good to ask would be jkp1516…he’s an admitted draft nut, and he’s probably got an inside track on who’s possibly coming out in next year’s draft.
jkp if you read this, your thoughts on any DT’s that would be in next year’s class would be greatly appreciated.
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Pretty weak class of DT's next year
At least at first glance. I don’t think anyone expected Fairley to blow up like he did this year so it’s entirely possible that someone steps up big time.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Alameda Ta’amu from Washington. But thats if we pick around 10th. Something about Samoans that make good DT’s
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Impressive.
I was born and raised in Hawaii. The Samoans and Tongans were freaking enormous! They looked like giants walking around my HS campus among the short ass asians.
Yeah...
Walter Football has Jared Crick as the only 1st round pick at DT, and they have him going 32nd.
I think he has the best chance to shoot up the boards, but I don’t know if we’d take him or not.
Personally, I like him.
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Strike this...I was wrong.
I thought they had Jerel Worthy (mocked at #9) listed as a DE, not a DT.
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Worthy isn't impressive.
He isn’t much of a pass rusher, and he’s a decent run stuffer. If Jeffery and Blackmon are off the board, then I would go after a corner.
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From what Ive seen, I think u have hit the nail on the head. To me, this years DT draft class looks to be weak so far, just because few have really produced and set themselves apart.
Jared Crick is far and above the cream of the crop. He is the only 1 who has produced so far. Strong as an ox and explosive, however there are concerns he may be better in 34 rather than 43 scheme. I personally love him, however he’d strictly be a 43 UT, however he could be super disruptive in that role. Most think hes a mid/late 1st, and I think a 34 team in the end will take him. If hes even more productive this year, which would be difficult, then he could be top 10.
Besides him, there is a large drop off. Jerel Worthy, Marcus Forston, Tydreke Powell, Alameda Ta’amu and others are thought to be the next in line, but that is really based more on athleticism than production. Thats pretty much it for the top DT class, although most likely a few will emerge this year a la Nick Fairley.
by jkp1516 on Sep 6, 2011 10:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No problem man....I figured if anyone knew who was coming out next year, it would be you. :-)
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It's A Pretty Good Year For NT's "jkp1516"
I did a quick chek at nfldraftscout.com to make sure, and it could be a pretty good year NT’s, Here’s a ist, and some info.
Overall Draft Ranking – Position Rank – Name – College – Size
28 – 3 – Josh Chapman – Alabama – 6-1, 310, 5.02-40
35 – 4 – Alameda Ta’amu – Washington – 6-3, 337, 5.22-40
56 – 5 – Kwame Geathers (Jr.) – Georgia – 6-5, 350, 5.33-40
70 – 8 – Dontari Poe (Jr.) – Memphis – 6-5, 350, 536-40
(Chapman is small quicker type NT some prefer, but not me)
By saying Jared Crick in a 3-4, you must mean as a 3-4 DE, he only weighs 285 pounds.
by PanthersRoar on Sep 6, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I would LOVE to get Crick.
A lot of people say he was a product of playing next to Ndamakong Suh, well he still produced this year even without Suh. Yet for some reason he’s still not hyped that much. If we are lucky enough to pick in the middle of the first he should be seriously considered, and if he falls to us in the early/middle second round we should jump on it without even thinking.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 6, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Depending on how Kalil adjusts we could swap him and Gross right off the bat.
Gross did play RT for several years after all, the only issue there is you’re paying him LT money to play the opposite side. Does really give us a monster OL though, we wouldn’t need to address a starting position for several years.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 6, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN big board has him ranked 26th and he is below 4 other CB’s
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He’s the CB from Florida who got popped for Mary Jane possession.
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you are correct
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For what it's worth...
Walter Football has us taking Blackmon 8th in next year’s draft in his current mock.
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Walter has DT Jerel Worthy ranked outside of the top-15
But as the #9 pick.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right...
In another reply to you I had that Crick was the 1st DT taken…totally saw Worthy listed as a DE first time I looked at it.
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he has us taking a DT in the 2nd. Marcus Forston from the U. All speculation until season plays out in both College and NFL
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Worthy could have declared this year but didn't.
I watched him as a DT pick in the 3rd had he come out this year. Great player.
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I'm just happy to see we aren't projected to pick first
It is way to early to guess who we will pick yet. What will suck is, if we go with a WR, who will we cut? we have a glut of maybes right now.
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i know that we went DT and NT this year in the third but why not go for a top notch DT this year as well some one like a SUE or Fairly or the next SAPP i think you address the DT with a full time run stuffer the DB and CB will be better suited and if we cant then i would go with a star CB
Im an SEC guy...but idb take blackmon over alshon anyday
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by Justin704 on Sep 5, 2011 11:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
its a coin flip toss on both guys. Really comes down to what you want in your WR. I like Blackmon as well but i could see an argument for Alshon and i think he would be more a Chud guy with his size.
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I don’t think that the Panthers would though…Blackmon is 6’1", Jeffery is 6’4"…Chud likes bigger receivers.
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I'm a huge Jeffery homer since I'm a Gamecock fan...
But I’d be completely happy with Blackmon.
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somebody said Blackmon had a sports science peice saying his box was bigger then Plaxico if so he size might not be an issue
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Unbiased observer here
But I think I’d take Jeffery.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Its hard to go against atleast 100yrds and a TD in EVERY GAME…but alshon’s size definently had to be considered…
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by Justin704 on Sep 5, 2011 11:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah blackmon had two season worth of stats in his redshirt sophomore season but Cam throws high Chud likes big wideouts. All signs point to Jeff. Both would be nice as hell additions though
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Lets take the raiders approach...which ones faster lol
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by Justin704 on Sep 5, 2011 11:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol that's definitely one way to do it
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You mean how this guy decides?
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no words....
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by Justin704 on Sep 5, 2011 11:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This must be what someone bitten by a zombie looks like, mid-transformation.
It’s only matter of time…
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
That picture always makes me sick to my stomach. Does his head have a fissure?
by JStewart28 on Sep 6, 2011 12:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Al Davis: How long do I have to live doc?
Doctor: Well, you have no pulse and no brain activity. Your body is in rapid decay and I would say you have 2 weeks at most.
AD: Isn’t there anything I can do?
DR: Zombies can survive longer by eating the flesh of live humans I hear…
That is so fucking gross
I almost tossed my Cheerios. For goodness sake Al put on a helmet.
The worst part of it is Al Davis is so rich he’s probably nailing a 20 year old well endowed super model who lets that gnarly old gremlin climb up her anytime the Viagra kicks in.
by Swamp Panther on Sep 6, 2011 8:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So she would see his "O-face" quite often:
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Jeffery’s 2010 totals: 88 REC / 1517 YDS / 9 TD
Jeffery’s 2010 per game averages: 6.3 REC / 108.4 YDS / 0.64 TD
Also remember: South Carolina has Marcus Lattimore, who is a potential Heisman candidate and a future 1st rounder.
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I think both are coin flip at this point. The WR who puts the better back to back season will come out on top. Both had great years. Lets see who continues to dominate and improve
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I agree...I would be completely happy with either one.
As a Gamecock fan, I hope Jeffery plays his way to be the #1 overall pick, because that means the ’Cocks had a good year, lol.
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I like...
picking up a 1st Rd receiver but what about picking up a late round QB Case Keenum, the guy get’s rid of the ball like it has AIDS on it..I mean how long can a running QB go for that dosen’t know how to slide..if he does last long then we have a Eagles situation on are hands which is a great thing!!
I will buy every commenter on CSR a BoBerry biscuit if we pick a QB in the first round next year.
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For this reason alone
I’m hoping for Luck.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake, if we pick Luck, I’ll buy you a 3 piece with any two picnic fixin’s and a 6 pack of BoBerry biscuits. :-)
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 6, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
well played
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It's not...
like Case would go in the 1st Rd, I think he would go in mid 3rd or late 2nd..but the guy has a patriot missile for a arm, he completed 30 passes for 310 yards against the bruins on Sat.
Keenum Also Completted 75% (30 of 40), But His Arm Is Only Average By NFL Standards, It's His Great NFL Level Accuracy That Sets Him Apart
by PanthersRoar on Sep 6, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I read it as if you were saying we’d pick him in the 1st round, so my mistake.
Still, I don’t think we take a QB next year.
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I certainly hope not.
3 in the past two years should be enough by any team’s standards.
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by KaiserBromley on Sep 6, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
4…lets not take any QB project converts either lol
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Ha well played
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by KaiserBromley on Sep 6, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
That's not cool man...
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by BW Smith on Sep 6, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
while your here AE do me a favor and read this
http://www.top-wide-receiver-training.com/how-to-catch-a-football.html
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by MMA_PITBULL on Sep 6, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
That’s funny man.
It’s wrong as hell, but it’s funny.
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now now
hope he can show us more catching than dropping this year! lol
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by CaptainPanther on Sep 6, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone have a link to BAMF's comments about Pugh?
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by Thee Steve Johnson on Sep 5, 2011 11:37 PM EDT reply actions
it's prolly on the panthers site
i think it’s the newest video
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by CaptainPanther on Sep 6, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I had this thought too
I can see Pugh having to cover the slot receiver often because we bring Godfrey on a blitz.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Been doing it in madden a lot haha
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by Thee Steve Johnson on Sep 5, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been blitzing like hell on Madden with our team.
And it works like a damn charm. And the QB run to the right under Shotgun-Wildcat Formation is money on the goal line with Cam.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets not forget..
While Rivera & Co may still be “kind of” new to these guys, Meeks is still our secondary coach. I don’t think Rivera/McDermott would green-light it if Meeks didn’t think these guys could fill their assigned roles well enough to be competitive. We’re obviously not going to have a Revis in our secondary but we wouldn’t have had that with any free agent signings anyway.
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by gdhood on Sep 6, 2011 4:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I've been waiting...
After the panthers originally signed Godfrey, and I saw what he could do on the field, I often wondered why he didn’t get a shot at CB. Don’t get me wrong, I am definitely a fan of Munnerlyn, too. I also understand that both of them have their share of weaknesses.
I actually thought, when Marshall was still with us, that he, Munnerlyn, and Godfrey were a better trio for the nickel package. I’ve never trusted Gamble. In fact, Gamble’s the DB that raises my concern the most, because he’s the one the coaches seem to trust the most, even though he has an exceptional ability to give up the big play.
I don't get why some of you are so excited about players cut, who made our PS
Because when that happens, it means these guys were sooo bad, that they slipped through all other 31 team’s waivers. I like guys like Sutton, but when every other team passes in him, it says something about how he stacks against average NFL RBs.
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by southtunnel on Sep 6, 2011 8:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think Fiametta is our only cut player to make a roster else where???
That’s pretty state of our player personel. We as fans fall in love with these guys, because we’re are not a familiar with other team’s rosters. But it shows that Rivera knows what he’s doing by letting guys like EB go, when nobody else in the league wants him.
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by southtunnel on Sep 6, 2011 8:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess
EB could be considered a 1st and 2nd round draft bust… b/c thats what we gave up to get him!!!
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We actually only gave up 1 pick to get him, and he also came with Goodson.
Like a package deal.
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I never understood....
why you would give up a first rounder for a second rounder that wasnt even hot on the market![draft]
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At The Time Brown Was Projected To Around #10-20, The Bills Chose Aaron Maybin at #11, & Got Almost Nothing From Him
The Bills would have loved to have gotten Brown’s production from Maybin.
It’s just the way the draft works, if a team want to trade a future draft pick for a pick in the current draft, it will cost you a future pick that is 1 round earlier, in order to get the pick a year earlier.
We traded with the Pats on the Armanti trade.
The Brown trade was with the 49’ers. They used our first round pick the next year to draft Mike Iupati. THAT’S why we don’t have a RG worth a damn.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 6, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Goodson is often forgotten about when it comes to that trade.
He was selected with the 49ers 4th rounder that they gave us in that swap. That takes a small amount of the sting away…a small amount.
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I'd much rather have Iupati
But your right, Goodson is a small consolation prize.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 6, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Iupati is an ogre.
He was one of my favorite players in last year’s class.
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We have more depth at Safety than Corner, so....yeah.
Until a solid #3 CB shakes loose…you gotta JB Weld some shit together.
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