Panthers Sign OL Geoff Hangartner
by panthers_FTW on Sep 5, 2011 11:47 AM EDT
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PrintAccording to Joseph Person and Steve Reed, the Panthers have signed former Panther Geoff Hangartner. The 29 year old Texas A&M product played for Buffalo the last 2 years, starting 16 games and 12 games respectively. Hangartner can play either Center or Guard. This move should make Guard a position of strength for us after we also signed Max Jean-Gilles yesterday. Hangartner is smaller than MJG at 295 lbs, but is also taller at 6'5" I am sure that Cam is excited about this. As well as double trouble.
Courtesy of the brains at ESPN, here is the scouting report on him:
Hangartner has good size but average strength and athleticism. He is a tough, hard-nosed player with great instincts and technique. He understands angles and how to leverage larger defenders in the run game. He shows good vision to adjust to stunts and twists in pass protection. He can lose some one-on-one battles. He needs help from the guard spots and is best on combination blocks.
Shout out to manu4t who simultaneously broke the news and allowed me to use part of his article.
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LOL I just posted on this as well
I should have been patient and waited for yours.
I think we are working on a CB trade right now. DT is still a mystery…..
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haha yeah right after i posted it it showed that each of ours were posted less than a minute ago haha. but your article is definitely better than mine is. can i delete this one?
by panthers_FTW on Sep 5, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Keep it up man, good comment thread here.
Good job catching it. Or you can take the stuff in mine and put it in here. No egos here pal!
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thanks, brought your info over and gave you a shoutout
by panthers_FTW on Sep 5, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
you may be correct. i got the news on twitter. and the cut of considine was mentioned in the same tweet as our signing of hangartner.
by panthers_FTW on Sep 5, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
It all came down at once. I am curious as to what we did to make room for Geoff H
Maybe getting rid of Considine freed up enough money to make the MJG and Geoff H signings work. Considine had a 2 yr deal, they are each one yr deals (I think on Geoff H anyway, MJG is a 1 yr deal).
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great pickup, now in my opinion, we shuld get tommie harris and pat williams for DT, and some other good CBs
Pat Williams will miss some games due to the suspension for the StarCaps stuff
Harris would be good. PW would be welcome if he could start right away, but he has to sit some games due to the substance policy violations.
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Only two game suspension, plus fined another two games in salary. I'd prefer Jamal Williams... younger and bigger.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
+1
I didn’t realize PW was 38! I thought he was closer to JW’s age.
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by KaiserBromley on Sep 5, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that kind of surprised me, too.
Plus, JW was in RivERA’s system until last season.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Love this move for solid depth.
I would think MacBern is gone now. If we can we probably will put CJ Davis on the practice squad. I also beleive a better trade is in the works for a starting #2 corner. Someone we all did not see coming here IMO. They have picked up a couple new developmental prospects at corner and got rid of some trash DB’s like this way of thinking. With the DT position the only player I can see come in a produce is Pat Williams unless another trade for that position is in the works. Tommie Harris’s body is worn down and would not want him. Earlier in free agency the name Antonio Garay was being mentioned alot. Would it shock anyone if that was a trade we tried to pull of now since the waiver wire and roster cuts have been gone through. We might have not seen anything we wanted besides the Harrison kid from Chicago. He was picked up cause he has a history with our D-line coach Eric Washington.
What CB's are on the market?
The only one I know of is Asante Samuels
by rscott94 on Sep 5, 2011 12:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is he actually on the market?
Eagles deny he is, although those guys would sell Andy Reid for the right price
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Hes been on and off the market
First they wanted a 1sr round pick…. no one bit at that. Then they wanted two 2nd round picks…. no one bit at that. I personally feel like they can’t keep DRC, Asomunguah(spelling?) and Samuels. If I had to give up anything for him it would be a 4th and a backup player for him (not saying we have to have him but he would be a improvement)
by rscott94 on Sep 5, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Looks like they are staying with who they have
At least until after AZ.
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You never know?
With the right trade bait or deal in the works another team might come off someone that we here at Panther nation did not see coming. Just a little curios that we have not really fixed the problem yet it seems like to me.
I think that is a pretty good sign that we are working on something bigger
Rather than just snatching people up off the wire or in FA. They know it is a problem, I would like to see Samuel come in as a mentor for Hogan but the price may be too high.
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I just don't see why people are so worried about or current CB's. Captain is pretty good.
I would love to have Asante but that seems a little steep. The Eagles probably wont be able to hold on to him long though. DT is my big issue
we really could use more depth at CB however.
for that we would look to FA but we apparently aren’t going too. maybe a trade. Or CB would go from so-so to pretty damn good quick
i am in agreement with you
If its draft picks we’re swapping we should think long and hard before repeating previous mistakes of over reaching for players (see e.brown, a.edwards). I also like pugh at nickle, that could work right?
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 5, 2011 9:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Brown = missed on that pick
AE = Yet to be determined… He shows promise… However, I do agree… Let’s stop giving away draft picks, and do a better job of scouting…
by MidnightDrifter on Sep 6, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Garay would be great if SD will cut him loose for the right price
We gotta get help at CB we are dangerously thin there. We cut Chevis Jackson so I think we are working the phones for a trade somewhere. If we want to improve we may have to trade rather than pull the wait-and-sign for more cuts.
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I love the new attitude of the Panthers front office
Maybe it is Rivera, maybe Hurney realizes he has to make something happen for him to remain as GM but whatever it is, they are actually doing something instead of standing pat and waiting for disaster to strike again.
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What I do realize with just one week to go before the 1st game.
We will bring in 2 starters that are familiar with the defense schemes that we will run. So you have to look at players that can come in for a week of practice and be ready to go on Sunday.
What player?
Does anyone have a clue as of who we cut to bring Piggy back??
Coach Rivera, is a BAMF..
Im gonna say an O-Lineman
But to be honest I wouldn’t be surprised to see Jimmy cut (Maybe not this free agent signing but a DT or CB signing)
by rscott94 on Sep 5, 2011 1:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Doubt it
I don’t think we’d roll into the season with Cam and DA. Plus he has a small contract and is only in his second year.
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by KaiserBromley on Sep 5, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
AE can play QB in a pinch
And unlike Claussen, he could execute the run option plays we installed for Cam.
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by southtunnel on Sep 5, 2011 7:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No way Clausen's getting cut in his second year.
I could potentially see a trade in the future, but definitely not getting cut/released. As we all know by now anyways, CJ Davis is the one they waived.
Is there any value in Clausen?
I probably am wrong though…
by rscott94 on Sep 5, 2011 3:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At the moment, probably not much
but there’s no reason to assume he won’t develop at ALL in the future. There’s no harm keeping him around as the 3rd string QB.
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by KaiserBromley on Sep 5, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe now...
Clausen has a chance to sit and learn… But up to this point, can’t say I’ve been impressed with pickles much at all… Now DA on the other hand, has been a pleasant suprise… He’s has shown through the pre-season at least that he is ready to play if called upon… But this is most likely Jimmy’s last season in Carolina… There’s no way he ever becomes anything more than a reserve back-up with us now…
by MidnightDrifter on Sep 5, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Never say never
I think Jimmy is an injury from Cam and a multi INT game from DA away from starting again.
I know a lot of people are really down on Jimmy, but the kid has talent. He has shown improvement from last season, and I think next season he will be ready to lead a NFL team.
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by Tarheel Soldier on Sep 6, 2011 6:32 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
True, true, anything can happen...
But I feel like I have a better chance at winning the lotto, than Jimmy has at starting QB for Carolina… I’ve seen more improvement with Cam in a month, than I’ve seen with Jimmy since being drafted… He may have some talent, but his skills dropped him from #1 to #3 with BAMF… I learned my lesson last year when Jimmy showed us a spark, then fizzled out… Let’s be honest here… If Jimmy had ANY value at this point, he would be in trade talks… And NO ONE is knocking on the door… To be fair though… He was thrown into the fire last year, and that would be hard on ANY rookie… Now he can sit and learn, instead of running for his life… It should do him some good… I just don’t think the team responds to him well here in Carolina… Coach him up, raise his value a little, and hope someone comes a knockin next year…
by MidnightDrifter on Sep 6, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
CJ Davis
Joe Person
Panthers waive OG CJ Davis injured. … Rivera says Hangartner and Jean-Gilles will compete at Rt G spot.
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Okay, unless we get crushed again by injuries, the O-Line is ret-ta-go. In fact, there aren't many (if any) I would say were better.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
It's amazing how much of a difference Otah being back makes.
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by KaiserBromley on Sep 5, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The last time these exact OL were together...
two one thousand yard rushers. Cam can sure use that. He’s not too bad racking up those yards on the ground either. 3 one thousand yard rushers! woo!
by Penn Panther Fan on Sep 5, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
cj davis
Waived injured… Bye bye cj
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 5, 2011 9:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think we should cut Clausen and use Armanti as an emergency #3 QB
Due to his size it might not make sense in most offenses. But considering we are now installing plays that allow our QB to use his atleticism and legs often… That was exactly AE’s game in college. In a pinch, if Cam went out, we wouldn’t have to abandon our game plan and remove those plays.
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by southtunnel on Sep 5, 2011 7:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I've been...
saying that..the 3rd QB is not needed..we did it with Delhomme and Winke and had a TE as 3rd. We need honestly we need the rosterspots..and I would do the same at the FB postion..get rid of the position all together and use one of our blocking TEs
I think we should too, but I think we should at least try to get something for him first.
Even if it’s just a 6th or 7th round pick…it would be better than just cutting him outright.
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I doubt...
we have a Vick vs Kolb situation going on, although I wish…do you think that Clausen has any confidence left..his confidence level has to be on the same par as Alex Smith, David Carr, or even Brady Quinn..I wish in the collective bargaining they would have optioned for a D-League or a Minor League..2 teams can share 1 team and instead of putting it in other countries like NFL Europe, keep it in the states..
We don't have a Vick vs. Kolb situation...
That’s why I said we could try to get a 6th or 7th round pick, instead of a starting CB and a 2nd round pick.
A team would give us a conditional 6th rounder for Clausen, especially if the team runs a WCO dink and dunk offense, which Clausen would be good in.
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I like that idea. Having a minor league of sorts would be interesting to follow. As in, have you seen the kid on our
D- League that’s tearing it up. Hell, if they put a Panther minor league team in Raleigh, I’d be at every game. They should make it so.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
b-dub i cant believe your entertaining this madness
Ae hasn’t played qb for a year, barring a few mountaineer plays, he would be as rusty as the titanic now. Plus, if everyone is actually honest with themselves and stops looking at the world in AE tinted glasses…. Jimmeh was a better college qb anyway, ae would get obliterated just as badly in the nfl as a qb. Personally I hope we never find out as it might crush whatever confidence edwards has built over this off season.
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 5, 2011 9:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Honestly, if we’re down to the 3rd QB, regardless of who it is, we’re already screwed. Might as well use AE as the 3rd QB in case of an emergency and use that extra roster spot for another position.
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i see your point
Then everybody else might realise AE is a even bigger waste of time than jimmeh!! Excellent idea BW. Lol, I jest. I know you love AE
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 5, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually I don't love AE...
I think you have me confused with Tater, lol.
I just think that AE as a WR and the 3rd QB with another DT/OL is better than AE as a WR and Clausen as the 3rd QB. To me, it’s just a more efficient use of the 53-man limit.
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or
Here’s a radical and probably massively unpopular idea…. Release ae. He can’t catch, he drops punts… I’m not really sure what he does actually. I get that he worked hard, but as long as he keeps letting passes hit him in the head people will call him a project who needs time, then a player we over-reached to get and finally a bust failed experiment. I hope it doesn’t end that way but people are fickle. I worry that one day only tater will be screaming his name. Maybe the same can be said about jimmy, I just don’t understand how ones a saint and the others a devil. Neither were great last year, surely jimmy should get the same second chance fans are so willing to give ‘money’?
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 5, 2011 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here’s the reason why: AE was a QB in college and is switching to WR. Jimmy was a QB in college and was dubbed “the most pro-ready QB in the draft” … they both had different sets of expectations, and Jimmy hasn’t come close to living up to any of his expectations, while AE has done as he was expected to, struggle to learn a new position in what is now a new offense.
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Damn you
just a few seconds faster than me.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by KaiserBromley on Sep 6, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
what do expectations matter?
If they both played rubbish? How much rope are you gonna give this kid to hang himself with before we turn on him? They both cost us the same. If ae was a late round round pick I might agree with what your saying
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 6, 2011 5:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Expectations matter a lot, actually. They knew AE would struggle for the first 1-2 years of his transitional period.
Now, if next year he’s still making the same mistakes that he’s made thus far, then I’ll be right there with you clamoring for his release. But I think he gets this year to figure things out, especially considering the way he was handled last season.
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actually i dont want either to leave
With expectations comes pressure, jimmy had a crippled o-line and coaching staff that didn’t seem to help him much. He was never going to deal with the pressure/ live up to expectations. He can’t shoulder all the blame for last years debacle. As you said, ae had no expectations/pressure. The pressure will be off jimmy this year, I’m hoping that he’ll show the same desire to improve as ae… Then at least he’ll be a good back up or trade option. I agree with your last point but surely jimmy gets that chance too? That’s the point I’m trying to make here…..
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 6, 2011 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t think Jimmy gets that chance, because in the 10 games he started, he showed nothing to suggest that he has “it”. He had his chance, and I’m afraid he blew it.
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wow.... that is ice cold BW
You should consider being a GM!! I just don’t want to ditch him, only for him to get picked up in a WCO and do really well. I took him time for the Irish before he became ‘the most pro ready qb’ in last years draft. I say he should get another year, if we’re that desperate for a roster spot then there are other options to cut.
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 6, 2011 12:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s why I think we should trade him to a WCO team for a conditional pick. If he still sucks in a WCO, we get something out of it, but if he turns out to be decent, we get a better pick.
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Excellent discussion. That's classic CSR blogging BW and Limey.
But BW’s right. It’s about the roster spot relative to the skill difference between Clausen and AE. A conditional pick and a free roster spot looks pretty good about now.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Well one of them was the "most pro-ready QB in the draft"
And the other has player WR a grand total on one year in his entire life.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 5, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if AE only makes it to 3rd receiver status, the fact that he can throw the ball extremely well will make him reasonably close to the pick value
A WR who commonly sees the field, yet can also torch you with his arm, is a rare commodity in the NFL, and is good for about 3-4 TDs in production, a season, based on that hybrid ability alone. That’s about as much as a #2 WR regularly gets.
If you’re not putting any value in his ability to throw, then of course you see him as a bust for the #33 pick. Give it time.
His versatility definitely improves his value...
if he is a 3rd receiver, gives us an extra dynamic in the wildcat as well as has success as a punt returner, that’s a lot of playmaking he brings to the team. A guy that can effectively play 3 positions is quite impressive.
His punt returning looks to be there as long as he doesn’t muff them, we know he can throw the ball well enough when needed, and he gets seperation on his route running. If he can start hauling those catches in and he’s pretty much there.
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by John Chilton on Sep 7, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
I would be much more entertained and excited to see AE walk out onto the field then Clausen, and I think given the opportunity could do better.
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i love how nuts you guys are
They aint gonna cut clausen. That would basically be hurney saying ‘look at me, I have completely f**ked up’. No way he makes himself look even more of a failure after letting brown go. I actually like jimmy, he’s become a massive scapegoat for the whole team being gash last year, feel sorry for him that his career might well be over already.
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 5, 2011 9:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
just to clarify
I like jimmeh as a backup. Cam is the present and future
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 5, 2011 9:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hurney just cut everette brown. so have to disagree with point #1 there
RR is cutting the dead weight even if it was a Marty mistake
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
thats the exact reason why he wont cut clausen
At least not yet
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 6, 2011 10:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hangartner on his return to Carolina
“Quite honestly, I never really wanted to leave here in the first place, so I’m happy to be back,” Hangartner said. “I had talked to Jordan (Gross) the day before and knew they had an issue at right guard. As soon as I knew I was getting released, I told my agent to call (general manager) Marty (Hurney) and see if they needed somebody. It worked out well”.
“I still own a condo here, and my dad lives here, plus I’ve still got a lot of great friends on the team. It’s real comfortable to come back here. I had a couple of different options, but this was my No. 1 choice, the place I wanted to be.”
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That's a cool story
It’s nice to hear players with loyalty.
awesome just made my day
all we need now is a dt asap
by CaliforniaPanther on Sep 5, 2011 10:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Piggy is an upgrade at G over Schwartz, IMO.
Not sure if MJD can beat him out—based on what I’ve seen of him in Philly, but its good that there’s a competition at RG.
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