Panthers Depth Chart Update
by Jaxon on Sep 4, 2011 10:30 AM EDT
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PrintMy apologies if this post seems redundant with last couple posts but I thought it significant enough because I saw a few surprises in the just released depth chart.
Starting with the offense:
First off I'm surprised to see WR Armanti Edwards in front of David Clowney. I guess Edwards didn't fall after his less than stellar showing against the Steelers.
Basically it looks like tackles Lee Ziemba and Bryant Browning have been switched. I still expect the Panthers to add a RG to the mix through waivers.
We've got the defense after the jump...
The defense:
There are not too many surprises here other than simply those that made the roster to begin with, like Keiser and Jason Williams. Also notice that Charles Godfrey is back at SS and Martin at FS. We had speculated Martin had been moved to SS but apparently the experiment was terminated.
Thoughts?
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Maybe they're gonna rotate
I can see Olsen onthe bench too often. I thought he had the best chemistry with Cam.
by usana_gaines on Sep 4, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
i meant I CAN'T see Olsen on the bench too often
by usana_gaines on Sep 4, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Shockey started every preseason game.
Olsen is going to get a ton of PT, don’t worry.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it's because...
…they’ll be using a number of 2 TE sets on passing downs with a single RB behind the QB. Meanwhile, on regular downs, Shockey comes in as a blocking and receiving guy with 2 WRs and a FB to block for the RB.
Honestly Shockey had looked better than Olsen in the Preseason
He seems to be building better chemistry with Cam too
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Let's not be silly now. Olsen is a better receiving option (at this stage of their respective careers).
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I tend to think so too
Maybe defenses are favoring Olsen when we run 2 TE sets. But I’ve watched both of them replay of DVR, and Shockey is just open more.
STEVE SMITH!
Byron Bell played left tackle Thursday, and played well...
Now he’s the backup at RG (for now). I don’t think I’d be feeling very comfortable if I were McBern.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
I hope they cut him
He really sucks despite his Strongman prowess.
I'm pretty sure it was Bell (#77) over there. I was watching pretty closely... If I'm wrong, it won't be the first time.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Bell was out there at LT
I was impressed with him out there. The guy has talent.
by passthedamnchipsdavidson on Sep 4, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
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im just waiting on the official news of Pat Williams being signed.. Any idea when that will happen?
by PantherTrain on Sep 4, 2011 10:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
My thoughts are that there's several changes coming.
Hopefully a couple OL (Jean-Giles and Piggy, please), multiple defensive linemen, at least one CB, and a young WR. This won’t be the depth chart for long.
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+1
As much as we need a RG to pass protect and run block, the defense is the bigger concern. This is a passing league and if we can’t get pressure with our DEs, the CBs we have will be eaten alive. At the same time, if our DTs can’t stop the run, we’ll never be able to control the clock and teams will be able to mix and match pass and run plays all day long on us, keeping us off balance enough that we’ll fall behind in every game and not have enough time remaining on the clock to play catch-up.
So, I’d be targeting the DT need first, maybe add another DE or CB, and then focus on RG.
Just my two-cents,
—Neil
I cannot believe am disagreeing with you
And I am in only a slight way, but with our long term investment with Cam, I believe that a strong O-line is more important than our D right now. While our D is going to cost us games, the Turnstile may cost us our long term QB. That is a loss I find unacceptable. We have questionable depth on our D-line, but Mac-Burned is not even backup worthy.
I agree that we need help on the D, and will get it. But I think our focus on RG needs to be put before a DE and maybe a CB at this point.
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Another perspective on it
We don’t want to fall behind in games and have to ask our rookie QB to beat them with his arm.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 4, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That is a fair point
I do not envy Hurney and Rivera right now. We have way more than 8 million dollars worth of need right now.
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I'll agree to disagree...
Though I can understand your concerns about protecting your rookie franchise QB, Cam’s not made of glass or apt to hold the ball too long and take unnecessary hits. The offense is going to be dicey this year anyway. It’s a rookie QB. Cam’s got accuracy problems even when he isn’t hurried. So, it’s going to be a major learning year for him anyway. Offensively, if he can just do more in terms of keeping plays alive on offense (and he can with his feet, size, and elusiveness), that’ll be enough…for this year. And then, we can focus on shoring up the O-line with some premium draft picks and free agents next year. Or, maybe address it as our second or third priority via the waiver wire right now. Still, if you’re depending on the waiver wire to net you a starting quality RG, I think you’re reaching a bit. I’ll agree anything is better than Bernadeau right now, but it’s still not as big a prioirty as the defense.
Why? It’s not simply because defense wins championships. It’s because a good defense is necessary to pair with the type of offense we have right now. In other words, we don’t have a Peyton Manning with a stable of awesome WRs, TEs, and RBs to outscore people at will while fielding a mediocre defense. Our offense isn’t that high-powered (yet). We’re built for a slow methodical pace to beat our opponents. And it’s going to take time (and different personnel) to mold our offense into something that better fits Chud’s philosophy. He’s working on it in stages. Hence, all the TE upgrades. But it’s still going to take time. That means we need a defense that can slow down the scoring of our opponents.
If you look across our defense right now, the only area of strength is the LBs and they’re completely neutralized in both the passing and running game by the weaknesses in the other areas. Especially on the D-line. If you don’t have DTs that can command double-teams and hold their ground, your premium LBs can run to the ball and stuff it minimal gains. Likewise, if your DEs can’t get QB pressures and sacks, that puts a lot more pressure on our your LBs and especially your CBs to cover their man for far longer than it should take. Our DEs aren’t getting to the QB. And, our CBs can’t cover well enough to buy them time, which has our LBs trying to compensate for them either by blitzing (and therefore opening up more seams) or dropping back to augment coverage (which isn’t their strongsuit).
So, to me, the imperative is clear. We’ve got to address DT in a major way first. It’s important to stop a team’s running game or they don’t even have to bother with throwing the ball, which means they eat up clock, pull ahead in the score, and then we’re left in a losing position because we’re not built as a comeback team. Next, you’ve got to address the DE or CB position. One or the other…and preferrably both. We paid big money to Charles Johnson and we’re counting on Greg Hardy to own his starting position. They’re decent DEs still growing into their roles as starters. If we want to stick with them, we need to upgrade the CB position so we can find some good cover guys to buy the DEs time to get to the QB (i.e., coverage sacks).
Once we address those two major needs, then I think we turn our attention to RG. And, after that, maybe another DE to enhance the rotation. And, the cool thing is that we don’t have to pursue these things in sequential order. We can go after addressing all those needs at the same time. But again, the waiver wire isn’t necessarily going to find you your long-term fix. To do that, we either need to make a splash in free agency for a guy who’s proven himself. Or, we need to strike gold in next year’s draft. Hence, this season, I think everyone needs to curb their expectations. As Rivera says, it’s a “work in progress”…and that’s both for him as the new coach, Cam as the rookie QB, and Hurney/Rivera in finding the right personnel mix to carry out how they’re trying to remold this team.
All of those are bold moves to be taking on at once. But, a rookie head coach can’t go slow. Rivera only has limited time in which to make an impact. So, why not address all these things as fast as he can? He has a window of opportunity to shake things up. And, because of all these foundational changes, it’s going to take time for everything to come together.
Just my two cents,
—Neil
I thought Bell played LT against the Steelers? He's now listed as a G.
Also Ziemba has always played RT as far as I’m aware.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I thought...
…Ziemba played LT in college on Cam’s national championship team at Auburn. So, he’s got experience there. Maybe they like his size at RT to do much of what Otah can do in case the big man goes down again?
I meant for the Panthers. I've no idea where he played for Auburn.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Correct...
For the Panthers, I think he’s been playing RT almost exclusively…unless they’ve been trying him out at LT, too. I don’t recall seeing him at LT against the Steelers, but I admittedly wasn’t scrutinzing that game all that closely after Cam went out in the 1st quarter.
he guarded newtons blinslide at auburn
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 4, 2011 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Add 2 DT's, 1 OG, and 1 CB and I think we're set................................
I think that would mean cutting Bernadeau, Jason Williams, Keiser, and Payne?
I’d like to see Bell get a shot at RG.
I don't agree with
Lafell ahead of Nanee or Shockey ahead of Olsen but I can live with it. Also Macburn, Stanford, Neblitt and Keisler shouldn’t last the week IMO.
by Swamp Panther on Sep 4, 2011 10:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Like it or not, LaFell is more versatile than Naanee.
The Shockey/Olsen thing doesn’t bother me since I think they’ll both be on the field a lot. MacBurned needs to get the hell out of here. I’m sick of thinking about his sorry play. Of the others, I think Andre Neblett could stick around. Stanford and Keisler will probably be outie like a belly button.
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I think we're going to see a ton of two TE sets this season.
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Me too.
Best way to help the young QB and struggling O-line.
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It's going to look a lot different than Foxy's 2TE sets
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 4, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Today sometime
I believe claims have to be in 24hrs after the player gets waived.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I read somewhere that 4pm is the earliest we can put a claim in.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
nope its 12pm, league announces who is going where at 4pm
Think that’s right
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 4, 2011 11:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
CB Joselio Hansen was cut by the Eagles
By no means All Pro material, but he has been an NFL starter and has familiarity with McDermott’s defense.
Former Panther DT Derek Landri also cut by the Eagles despite having a solid training camp.
I'm watching Oregon vs LSU now.
What the hell happened to the Ducks?!
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I know we have the best LB core
But that MLB core is just ridiculous!!!
by rscott94 on Sep 4, 2011 11:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
where did you hear that?
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 4, 2011 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The Bears tweeted it too.
One year deal.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
What hell i thought we had 1st dibs..
Bears agreed to terms with FS Brandon Meriweather on a one-year contract… Sep 4 – 11:30 AM
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/211502/pats-cut-two-time-pro-bowler-meriweather
Coach Rivera, is a BAMF..
He's a vested veteran. He doesn't go on the waiver wire.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
oh well
I can’t help but feel there’s a reason the pats let him walk. I think he’s a little overrated anyway
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 4, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Obviously.
Whatever Merriweather was doing wrong or not really doing very right had to be sufficient enough for the Pats to let him go without any really proven talent at the position. All they got is a couple of Safeties who’ve done nothing and a “potential” riser at the position.
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Apparently he freelances, which the Patriots hate.
Reed freelances too – but obviously he makes amazing, game changing, plays every other week so he gets away with it.
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Meriweather
he was the one headhunting a defenseless receiver when the league was reviewing some of the concussion hits last year, a la James Harrison. I for one am glad he’s going elsewhere.
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Turns out Ingram is basically Stewart.
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DA??
Did Derek Anderson really out play Clausen????
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yup
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Wow! RT @AlbertBreer: RT @caplannfl Shocker: I’m told the Panthers have waived DE Everette Brown.
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
so much for the "we cant cut him that would make marty look bad"
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I know, and I like it
BAMF isn’t worried about making Marty looking bad, he is making the Panthers look good.
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steve reed retweeted adam caplan nfl
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i sure hope they arent keeping keiser instead of brown
i’ll wait out all the moves before criticizing
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I guess they're keeping Keiser and bringing in another DE.
To be honest I’m gonna have to watch the Steelers game again – I didn’t notice Keiser at all.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
more specifically, for a DE, which is really a surprise since
our priorities seemed to be: RG, DT, CB and WR.
i thought EB was a decent backup. itll be interesting to see who replaced him
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Is Everette or DJ the bigger bust?
At least DJ played for us longer.
"Excuses are a disease." -Cam Newton
HIM is the biggest bust
More DUI’s than touchdowns sums that up perfectly.
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I'm surprised LaFell is ahead of anyone
Clowney, Edwards and Pilares have looked more impressive. Plus we need guys who can stretch the field. And LaFell is looking like Dwayne Jarrett 2.0 trying to get separation.
STEVE SMITH!
Actually I'm not even sure LaFell's role is that necessarily anymore.
With Shockey and Olsen, we have to big bodies to play similar to a possession receiver. Honestly it seems like AE or Pilares running quick routes or in the slot, or Clowney going deep make us much more versatile than anything LaFell can do.
STEVE SMITH!
we have a #2 receiver and his name is
the Tight End : )
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Yes, Shockey/Olsen will be the second read on most plays.
But LaFell can play. There’s little doubting that.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
You there's a lot doubting that???
If not, what exactly is his game that isn’t in doubt?
STEVE SMITH!
The kid had nearly 500 receiving yards on the worst offence in the league as a rookie.
That gives him a pass for a quiet pre-season.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Yeah, but now there's much better receiving options on the field
With Smitty, Shockey and Olsen running routes, if LaFell isn’t open, he’ll never get the ball.
STEVE SMITH!
Jesus. Look at his rookie season. That tells you much more than camp/pre-season. The kid can produce.
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Thank you
LaFell did more in his rookie season than HIM did in his entire career. Any comparison between the two is lazy at best.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
They're actually very different receivers. Jarrett has much better hands and LaFell is a hell of a lot more physical.
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LaFell's MO so far is
he will give you some spectacular plays now and then. decent blocker. yet to prove he can get consistently open for 4-5 catches per game. personally i dont think he has the drive to get better. i hope i’m wrong. and being the beg’g of his 2nd year, its far too early to pronounce judgment on him
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Old Saying
The president of a company I used to work for had a saying “Don’t tell me all the good things you did yesterday, show me the good things you’re doing today”! Nuff said.
Jim
If we had reached the regular season and he was playing like this, I’d agree. But it’s the preseason. Look where playing well in the preseason got Dwayne Jarret.
by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 4, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Did the President of said company expect you to prove yourself without actually being allowed to work?
Cos, erm, the regular season hasn’t started yet.
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Lafell started slow last year, too. By the end of the year, he was producing more than any other WR.
Takes a few ‘real’ games for some players to get their swag on, know what I’m saying?
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
pats snatch waters
Sept. 04, 2011 10:41 a.m. – by Greg Bedard – Report: Patriots add veteran guard Waters
The Patriots have agreed to terms with former Chiefs Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters, according to a league source. The team hasn’t announced the corresponding roster move. Patriots RapidReports
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Looks like Carolina is getting S Stevie Brown from Oakland
Per Chris Kroger
New #Panthers safety? RT @scbr3 goodbye Oakland…HELLO CAROLINA!!!
Had 30 tackles and 2 PD’s last year for the Raiders, and is almost 6 ft tall.
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What the...
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by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
What is this, 6 safeties now? No offense BAMF, but we need CB’s on D not S.
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i heard Tater is going to be a two way player
RG and DT. he’s a beast
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Probably means bad news for Considine
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Maybe this move means Kevin Payne
will now be released as well?
Your Probably Right "Adam"
I was actually surprised Payne made the roster, with his injury history, and seems more of a special teams player than a S.
S Stevie Brown wasn’t invited to the 2010 Combine (the top 330 or so players), but he had a good Pro Day workout (5-11, 212, 4.51-40, 23 bench reps, 34 1/2 inch vertical, 6.61 3-cone drill)
Seems like Safety is one of our stronger positions
I’m surprised we keep addressing that, and not these other glaring needs.
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7th round pick in 2010
again, strange
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stevie brown
S Stevie Brown, waived by the Raiders on Saturday, has apparently landed a job with the Carolina Panthers. Brown tweeted: "goodbye Oakland…HELLO CAROLINA!!!" Last year the Raiders cut and re-signed Brown multiple times before he stuck with the team and turned in an impressive rookie season. Raiders RapidReports
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steve reed is now calling him a corner
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
Panthers apparently have claimed Oakland CB Stevie Brown. Played one year with Oakland. RT @scbr3: goodbye Oakland…HELLO CAROLINA!!!
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
Stevie Brown not exactly the No. 2 CB the team is looking for. He played in 15 games last year, one start.
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
everywhere else i see him listed as a safety tho.
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
sorry for the misinfo
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
My bad, Stevie Brown is a safety, not a cornerback.
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Well, BAMF and Chudz faced the Raiders twice a year, so they know what he's got.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Rookie
5th round pick from this year.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
should we give up on hanson now?
sigh.
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No
Hanson is going to have options. There’s no harm in picking up a few kids to see what they’ve got before the vets sign.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
that would make more sense on aug. 4 than sep. 4
but i see what youre saying. he’s not waver wire so today is more about getting the waivers immediately, while also trying to sign the vet FA’s
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Gantt
Thinks we’ll see a lot of roster turnover today.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap!
This kid LITERALLY has a bullet for a head.
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by Oi2dwrld on Sep 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oi, who is it
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Josh Thomas
the guy we just picked up.
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I won't be tough to find a nickname, but he has to make a play first
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Holy shit?
Is that picture real? Reminds me of the movie with the cone head aliens with Dan Akroyd. lol
his mama could not have found that experience to be pleasant.
by Penn Panther Fan on Sep 4, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a strange move with all these veterans available.
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Another Short CB (5-10 1/4, 191, 4.50-40, 1.58-10, 38 1/2 Inch Vertical, 10-6 Broad Jump) Pick #143,
He was the highest drafted player cut yesterday.
fiametta is now a cowboy
daringantt Darin Gantt
Per agent. RT @DennisBoyev Cowboys have claimed FB Tony Fiammetta – he is ready to keep the tradition going of great Syracuse FBs in big D
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Meh
I never really cared for Fiametta. Felton has some Tolbert in him, IMO.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Not unless they hand the ball to him. He can't block for toffee.
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AE's location on that depth chart
potentially says a couple things to me
1. he’s getting open more than the other guys and the coaching staff feels like he can pull it together and catch the ball in traffic with a little practice
2. they are planning on picking up a WR or two today
BAMF!!!!!
HE is really putting his stamp on this team,it want be long before we are in the hunt for the NFCsouth again.
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Too bad the Ron R experiment couldn't start
1 year earlier. Would have liked continuity with every player knowing the system etc. Heck the draft selection could have been better, seems like both 09 and 2010 draft class are being cut with ease
Tate gone
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
Some had asked about Tate. He’s now a Bengal. RT @ProFootballTalk: Bengals claim Brandon Tate on waivers, per league source.
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Damnit!!
Tate and Green…that’s a mean combo..
Rocking the boat and righting the ship! Making the moves needed...Go Panthers!!!
I guess they didn't see him as an upgrade to any of the guys we have
Good for us.
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George Selvie #67 DE
St. Louis Rams | Official Team Site
Height: 6-4 Weight: 251 Age: 24
Born: 3/6/1987 Pensacola , FL
College: South Florida
Experience: 2nd season
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Defensive end from the Rams. This is who we cut Brown for.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The only advantage George S
have over Brown is height, can’t defend the run well is my guess.
1.5 sacks his rookie yr
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Expected to be a situational pass rusher. He's looked good in camp this year (per rotoworld)
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
i dont like him already
his name’s too close to george seifert for my taste
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
it's early, but i'm underwhelmed by what we're doing today
none of these make a ton of sense imo
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Its pretty simple
The coaches/scouts like the players we’ve claimed more than the guys we’ve got on our team. Signing the “names” everyone wants will come later, right now we’re just filling out the roster.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have liked to see us claim Tate though. Pretty good return man and better than Clowney. Hell, I think he could have grabbed the spot opposite Smitty.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you sure he is better?
From what I have read, Tate’s production dropped of dramatically the last half of the year. Clowney is still young and a proven commodity with this team. He may not be here next year, but he is making plays for us now.
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In my opinion, yes.
Tate did more last year than Clowney has done in his whole career and had a pair of return touchdowns.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 4, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
doing a comparison of who was throwing to tate and clowney......
lol
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
While the return factor is nice
I think BAMF Co. are giving AE a shot at being that guy. If Tate was available next year, maybe AE would be gone, but he won’t be cut this year. Clowney has done enough this year to warrant one more look.
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DE George Selvie Is Very Slow (4.96-40) & Lacks Explosion (30 1/2 Inch Vertical & 9-1 Broad Jump)
Those look like the number you would expect from a 300 pound DT. Hardy ran the same 4.96-40 time at the Combine, but he was injured, but improved to a 4.79-40 at his Pro Day (a little over a month later).
Not to mention that Greg Hardy is heavier.
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
all 3 moves on defense so far
sure hope weve got hangartner coming
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
So far the waiver claims have been extremely underwhelming to me.
I would like for the panthers to at least get Robert Callaway off of waiver claims.
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
DT signed
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
Breaking: Panthers have claimed DT Marcus Harrison off waivers from Chicago. There’s your defensive tackle.
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
bio
Marcus Harrison #99 DT
Chicago Bears | Official Team Site
Height: 6-3 Weight: 316 Age: 27
Born: 7/10/1984 Little Rock , AR
College: Arkansas
Experience: 4th season
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Insight on why he got cut:
Harrison happenings
It was indeed not a day for Bears defensive-line draft choices. The Indianapolis Colts released former No. 1 pick Tommie Harris, whom the Bears arguably held onto too long after making him the highest-paid defensive tackle in the game at one point.
Harrison had his opportunities but failed to seize them. He started nine games in 2009 and had flashes of production. But even after Harris was released earlier this year, Harrison did not work himself into competitive condition and reported too overweight to practice the first week of training camp, not the first time for a camp conditioning problem with him.
Even a few late performance surges were not enough to get him past Anthony Adams, Henry Melton, Amobi Okoye, rookie Stephen Paea and Matt Toeaina, and the Bears were never going to keep six defensive tackles.
Honestly one of the DT’s on waivers that have been proclaimed to be potentially solid starters is DT Robert Callaway from the Lions and I really want the panthers to bring him in.
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
3rd round pick in 08, only played in 5 games last year, was more productive his 1st two seasons
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Underwhelming to me too !!!
DAMN!!! I was expecting every player we picked up would have had at least one year as an all-pro.
Come on guys — – - – - get real. Let BAMF do his job – - have faith!!
Jim
burney looking like hes on the PS
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
Sounds like Kendric Burney’s back on the practice squad. RT @Kburney3: Help me out I have to find an apartment by Tuesday here in Charlotte
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Awesome!
Maybe some time in BAMF Camp will get him in shape and have him ready for next year. Too much talent to let go to waste and it won’t cost us a roster spot.
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he reminds me of a poor mans captain munn
same heart and work ethic, but im not sure if hes the athlete captain is, which might limit him from ever being more than a nickel
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
alex brown
just a rumor, but he must have heard it somewhere
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
One Brown for another? The Panthers are sniffing around free agent DE Alex Brown, a 9-year pro who played under Ron Rivera in Chicago.
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Please I hope that's true
He would be a nice pick up to add some depth
keary colbert made the chiefs
is it just me, or does it seem like he played here 16 lifetimes ago?
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
the jets claimed marty gilyard
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
5-time Pro Bowl O-lineman
We let a 5-time Pro Bowl O-lineman in Waters, go straight to the Pats. Not to mention Gurode. What is Hurney thinking?
panther cuts!
panthers Carolina Panthers
Panthers make 5 roster moves Sunday, cutting DEs Everette Brown and Thomas Keiser, WR David Clowney, S Kevin Payne and G Bryant Browning…
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
dang, i really liked clowney
are we picking up a WR?? pilares is hurt….leaves us with 4 healthy, right?
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Apparently...
We claimed WR Seyi Ajirotutu from San Diego.
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
must be a speed guy
UDFA 13 catches for 262 yards and two touchdowns.
really dont see why we passed on tate to get this guy. dang it chud
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
panthers add
WR Seyi Ajirotutu.
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
former charger
im not in love with all the homerism we see from Chud. Is knowledge of the system the only criteria for us to pick someone up?
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
to clarify, shockey and olsen are proven vets
Naanee and Ajirotutu, are not
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
With the season starting in less than a week?
Maybe not the only condition, but an important one.
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
Obviously obsessed with acquiring WRs with difficult to spell names
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Mybe we just hope it will confuse the hell out of man defenses.
“Who the hell was I supposed to cover again?”
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
Steve Reed:
The Panthers are now done with the waiver wire. They claimed five players and cut five players. Here’s the scoop. http://t.co/29RB1Ob
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
You know...
does this say anything that no one has claimed any of our players of the wavier wire? You don’t here Duke Robinson name coming up as a steal, only if he’s stealing your food…and Cory Irvin should be feeling kinda stupid after paying 1,000 bucks for sunglasses, don’t think they make that kinda of money in the Indoor Football League..
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