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Cliché-Free, Rivera Returns To Chicago

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In many ways you really can’t blame them. If they say something halfway interesting, those words could get massaged into all sorts of meanings. So usually it’s just easier to essentially say nothing.

That’s the game athletes and coaches play with the media these days. The media wants substance. They lust for quotes that are somewhat meaningful and honest. But when athletes or coaches pull back that curtain, they could get burned.

 

For nine years as the Panthers head coach, John Fox refused to allow even a slight glance into his true thoughts. He knew how to play the game and played it well. At least, for him. The media and fans were left to interpret what exactly "it" is.

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That’s why it’s so striking to hear his replacement, Ron Rivera say, well, anything. Folks around here aren’t used to hearing the truth, true emotion or even some gameday strategies.

Before his NFL head coaching debut earlier this season in Arizona, Rivera admitted to having "a moment of reflection" that week in his office. He also revealed plans to search for his wife in the stands before the game. He would point to her. The message: "We made it."

 

This week, Rivera returns to Chicago, the place where most of this started. It’s the city where he earned a Super Bowl ring as a player and where he began his coaching career. 

 

So the media’s job this week is to ask about "an extra meaning." Most would deflect with clichéd answers. Not Rivera.

 

"I’m not going to downplay it," Rivera said Monday. "People say it’s just another game. No it’s not. They’re all big, but this has a little personal meaning for me because it’s Chicago."

 

While Rivera came to Charlotte via Chicago, Julius Peppers went in the opposite direction. And the two couldn’t be more opposite regarding their public emotions this week.

 

Again, Rivera said: "People say it’s just another game. No it’s not."

 

Now here’s what Peppers told Panthers reporters in his conference call Wednesday: "All of that stuff about me returning, that was two years ago," Peppers quipped. "This is really like another game for me."

 

To be fair, Peppers did go through the whole "playing against your old team" thing last year. 


For Greg Olsen, this is his first time through.

 

A first round pick by the Bears in 2007, there’s no question Olsen grew frustrated by his limited role as a pass-catching tight end. After dealing him to the Panthers in July, Bears general manager Jerry Angelo said Olsen had previously requested a trade.

 

Wednesday, Olsen again denied that ever happened.

 

"I played well for them for four years," Olsen said. "They wanted to go a different direction at that position and they made that decision. It worked out well that I landed here to a team that wanted me and a team that wanted to use me."

 

Just like Rivera, Peppers and Olsen, Bears head coach Lovie Smith was peppered with questions Wednesday about the myriad of ties that bind his team and the Panthers together. Some ties are tight. Others are somewhat awkward. 

 

When Smith took over the Bears in 2004, Rivera was not his first choice as defensive coordinator. But Rivera had that job for three seasons until Smith chose to go "in a different direction."

 

"Each year, you as a head coach decide on what direction you’re going forward," Smith said. "That’s what I decided. No more than that -- nothing personal. I wasn’t disappointed in the job he did here."

 

So do we believe Smith? Did he really let Rivera go if he wasn’t "disappointed?"

 

How about Peppers? Even though he played the Panthers last year, is this "just another game"?

 

There’s no way to tell, really. 

 

But what we do know is this week does mean something extra for Rivera. There’s no need to massage words to make his return to Chicago mean anything more than it is, because it means a whole heck of a lot.

 

"It’s been a good city to me," Rivera said. "I’ve got a lot of great memories. A lot of friends are going to come by and see me and it’s exciting to me. I’m not going to shy away from that, I think it’s great."


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There's a lot of demons to exercise this weekend

I am expecting some heavy hitting and heated players. Hopefully 90% of them play for the Panthers.

by Swamp Panther on Sep 28, 2011 9:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

ugh...did you have to use the number "90"?

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Sep 28, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember one of our playoff years

We got beat by the Bears then beat them pretty good in the playoffs. Don’t really have a point to that just reminiscing.

by doug2626 on Sep 28, 2011 9:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

LOL

I love that photo. Those commercials are great.

by doug2626 on Sep 28, 2011 11:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Against the Bears and Cutler it shouldn’t be a problem. I expect him and hardy both to get a Sack in the game.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Sep 28, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...not quite, it seems.

He didn’t have a sack in the final game last year against Atlanta.

I don’t want to take anything away from what Big Money is doing, though. He has been outstanding for us these past two seasons.

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Sep 28, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure he did.

because week 2 they said on Tv “9th consecutive game with a sack”

by kasayfan4 on Sep 28, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were wrong. Norwood got our only sack that game.

CJ was leg-whipped and went out early with that injury, and Norwood took his place.

by bigdavis on Sep 28, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, the statement made by the broadcast crew

Was that he has 9 sacks in his last 9 games not that the has a sack in each of the last 9. He had 2 against Pit the week before Atlanta

by Kris Mynatt on Sep 29, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If Peppers goes 1-on-1 against Gross

Newton will have to create with his feet, and I don’t mean throwing off of his back foot…This is gonna be a physical game. We must run the ball effectively and often…

by kittylover on Sep 28, 2011 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Peppers doesn't like competition

Expect him to pick on Otah’s subpar pass-blocking skills.

by ppalm on Sep 29, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gold!

Solid gold! Put it in the books.

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by Thee Steve Johnson on Sep 29, 2011 12:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

+Cam

Put it in the CSR glossary!

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Sep 29, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Listening to Pat Kirwain on NFL radio when talking with Rivera, he kept calling our stadium “the nuke.” I wonder if he came up with it in a similar fashion or if it was related to the plants around the city.

by ppalm on Sep 29, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

or if it was related to the plants around the city.

For a split second my brain read this in the sense of “related to the foliage around the city”, and I thought “Good God, what kind of plants do they have in CLT?!”, and then I came to my senses and realized “Oh, nuclear plants, duh!”

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by BW Smith on Sep 29, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd much rather call it "The Vault."

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Sep 29, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Id really just like to get a W. How nice would it be to match last years win total in only week 4. I think we have the offense to score on the Bears. We just got to execute. Fingers crossed Newton shows up on target. If he does i think we can pull out the victory. I expect a big game from Smith Olsen and Shockey.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Sep 28, 2011 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Running the ball worries me.

We will need to. Right now, we can’t. Big problem.

The coaches have better been doing anything and everything to get that running game going. Obviously we can pass the football… W have you done with my beautiful running game?! Chud, Rivera, please put it back where you found it. Thanks!

I hope they are having fun throwing the football. I’m glad the worked has paid off. But we need to get back to football here. I want to see 200 on the ground, at the very least. That’s not even trying. 34+28+33+Cam = way more that 200 yards a game. Throw for a couple hundred on top of that and we’re ridiculous.

They need to figure out how to run and pass out of the same formation, effectively, like yesterday.

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by Thee Steve Johnson on Sep 29, 2011 12:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This offense is not set up for that. We are a air out it offense. Want the running game to be more effective? Start 28. I do think the games of both guys going over 100 are over. NFL is a passing league and our new system solidify that

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by MMA_PITBULL on Sep 29, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

How is it not set up for that?

The pieces are there. We just aren’t using them.

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by Thee Steve Johnson on Sep 29, 2011 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think we can get the run game going still

I rewatched the game yesterday and Stewart was pretty solid in general and Williams was as Rivera said and just a block or move away from a big play.

In rewatching a couple of the Williams runs it was kinda weird how it looked like there was a pretty big pile of players in the middle and he was headed towards the outside of that pile and then changes his mind and tried to cut back only to be tackled. There was at least two plays in the first half had he continued to go to the outside of the pile he only had one linebacker to beat for a big gain.

by MindMachine on Sep 29, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Im saying this offense isn’t nearly as run heavy as our past. Running the ball 30 times a game just isn’t going to happen anymore. We still got the players to do it but we aren’t using the same offense.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Sep 29, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we win this one and think the spread us way to big

I think a realistic spread would be Chicago by 1, although I think we will win by 10 or more. Our defense and offense are better. Chicago has no running game, which is a great match for us. We played well against Green Bay a better team. We just have to win the turnover game. Even when Cam couldn’t hit the broadside of the barn last week, he played out of his funk and we still won. We get this one easy.

by Panthster on Sep 29, 2011 8:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah they did, that guy is practically gushing

The more I read, the more I think we have the next great head coach right here in Carolina.

This comment section has officially been Tater'd.

by Tater596 on Sep 28, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just another game?

Peppers is making over $16 million a season.
EVERY game should be a big deal at that price.
The Bears re-worked his roster bonus into a signing bonus to make it cap friendly and rub salt into the Panthers memories. Try to remember that this weekend. Think of all the free agents the Cats lost while waiting for him to (not) sign his tender. Think of the season they had with nobodies on the bench.
If he’s signed, they could have traded him and at least got a couple of high picks. He walked and the Panthers got nothing.
His teammates welcomed him back with no hard feelings.
Right. Show him no hard feelings Sunday.

by criolle johnny on Sep 29, 2011 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Now I know this won't be a favorable opinion round here, but I wish we still had Pep!

Could you imagine Pep AND CJ, with Hardy and Selvie backing them up! It would’ve been the most fearsome tandem in the NFL…

by jkp1516 on Sep 29, 2011 3:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Ill take CJ and Hardy over Peppers any day of the week. Peppers is STUPID talented…but like Vick he does what he can to get by. Some people are too talented and they never learn to apply themselves or become driven. Ill take two guys who bust their ass on EVERY down over Peppers who shows up when he wants. Honestly im glad we don’t have him under the heavy contract. CJ is young and will give it his all and is costing us less. Peppers will only decline in the coming years and when the talent goes all he will be left with is his work ethic…scary thought if your a bear fan

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by MMA_PITBULL on Sep 29, 2011 4:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Direct quote from Peppers on reputation of taking plays off....
“Sometimes, you’re on the field, you get tired,” he said. “If I’m not playing as hard on play 66 as I was on play No. 1, then … come on.”

Some may be fine with this but play 66 could make or break the game….if your too tired to do anything then get your ass off the field. You can’t tell me a man of his freakish nature is any more tired then the other players on the field.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Sep 29, 2011 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amen!

I hate a slacker. Especially one that gets paid 2 million for every quarterback tackle behind the line if scimmage. I mean really, the qb (except Cam) is way easier to tackle than a runningback.

by Panthster on Sep 29, 2011 8:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That would be suck a beastly line.

Can you imagine Pep in Rivera’s defense, yikes.

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 29, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Off subject

Does anybody no a reliable streaming website to watch the game Go! Panthers!

by pantherfanallday on Sep 29, 2011 4:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Slipstreamtv and firstrow (or frontrow?) sports are the best ones to go to

they stay on top of the streams

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by Tomthehomer on Sep 29, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

lions fan here

cmon panthers knock the shit out of the bears!!! im rooting for u guys like crazy! the bears are the most overated team in the NFL. you guys can beat them, there offense is shit there deffense is overated. your D line should get 5 or more sacks and cam can light them up. I want to see your coach win in his old place. good luck panther fans

by sandvet on Sep 29, 2011 7:51 AM EDT reply actions  

My fellow cat from the mota city

We do this for you’s guys, ayite. But now yous’ guys are gonna owe us a favor.

We’s gonna collect when we play you… Suh and Vanden Bosch, will need to be hurt or sick, see?

Kapeish?

by Panthster on Sep 29, 2011 9:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Now there's an offer that can't be refused.

pictured above: The BAMFfather

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Sep 29, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

will see hahaha, I realy hope u guys smash cutler in the dirt and have him tast grass

by sandvet on Sep 29, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big Money is on it.

He has quite the repertoire of making QBs hit the dirt.

And here he is playing the world’s smallest violin for all of them (well… small for him)

This comment section has officially been Tater'd.

by Tater596 on Sep 29, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Just watched Mike and Mike and they predicted Cutler to have a better game than Cam and for the Bears to win. Mike Golic quote " Carolina isn’t know for its pass rush" Not like we had the top DE FA in the market last year…CJ and Hardy are going to have Cutler running scared

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by MMA_PITBULL on Sep 29, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Mike Golic, but

If you’re not the Eagles, Jets, or Patriots, he has no freaking clue about your team. He and Greenie get by on ESPN stats and stuff. They really don’t know anything about smaller market teams like the Panthers. He just like all the other national sports media. “The Panthers went 2-14 last year, got a new QB in the draft that surprized a few people in the first two weeks, and basically are still just a scrub team nobody needs tro worry about.” I’ve heard it so much I’m really just tired of it.

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by Tarheel Soldier on Sep 29, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the picture of CJ chasing Eli, Manning looks like he’s about to take a shit, lol.

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by BW Smith on Sep 29, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

To be fair

he takes one on the field every Sunday.

I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.

by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 29, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol well played

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by BW Smith on Sep 29, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

That Picture of Cambell

The man looks terrified, I mean just got out of bed and she tells him she has some sort of crotch rot terrified.

"I kinda just sling it" -Jake

by bleed_in_blue on Sep 29, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by BW Smith on Sep 29, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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