Panthers Offense Has Gone From Total Horror to Scary...in a Good Way
by Jaxon on Sep 2, 2011 1:04 PM EDT
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There is no denying the Panthers offense was terrible last season. They finished ranked #32, dead last in offense with a paltry 12.2 points per game scoring average. Easily the worst showing in franchise history. Yet with the new coaching staff and more importantly the selection of QB Cam Newton at the top of the draft the Panther offense has shown improvement this preseason, rising to... 25th. If that doesn't sound like much improvement to you Bo Jackson sees it another way:
"There isn’t another quarterback in the NFL that has all of those tangibles," Jackson said. "And when you put all of those tangibles together with the quality of receivers and linemen that he’s got blocking for him, and the running backs that he can get the pill to, this guy is scary. The Panthers are scary."
He means 'scary' as in good scary. I had to do a double take on that. Yes, I'm happy with the improvement and I do think on paper the Panthers have a lot of talent on offense right now. But we haven't seen anything too scary on the field in my view. So do you think Jackson might be wearing his Auburn Tiger-shaded glasses?
Oh it gets better, scary better...after the jump...
When asked to compare Newton's skills to other QB's he doesn't shy away from the big names:
"When you speak of Cam Newton, I’ll put it to you just like this: He has the arm strength and power of Dan Marino and John Elway combined," Jackson said. "He is quicker than Michael Vick, faster than Michael Vick. And he will run over you with the power of a Jerome Bettis, Bo Jackson, Earl Campbell. That’s the kind of guy he is."
Arm strength of Dan Marino? Agree. He threw a 28 yard dart down the sideline... while being tackled on the run.
Quicker & faster than Mike Vick? Probably not before Vick tore up his knee but I'd just have to see these two run side by side to decide.
Running power of Jerome Bettis? Let's not get carried away Bo. Bettis wasn't called 'The Bus" because it kind of rhymed. Newton does run with power I agree but come on, the Bus? What Newton does though that I agree is completely unique is run really fast with a massive stride. The dude runs like a tall gazelle racking up about 3-4 yards a step once he gets going.
Yes I think Bo has gone a little Homer on this one and that's okay. I agree with the premise of his position and that, in due time, the Panther offense will be scary with an experienced Newton at the wheel. But I'm not seeing many OC's out there being scared of him just yet.
But Jaxon likes the way Bo thinks. ;)
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Bo knows jangles
I hope he’s right… but in the end Bo is saying a lot and all I’m hearing is “WAR DAMN EAGLE!”
Since when does Bo Jackson have a platform?
Clearly he’s a homer, but if you scale back some of the hyperbole…I think he’s right.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
Look Bo has ran with the thugs (Raiders), eatin’ with the kings (Royals), and looked death in the face (Al Davis), I just have to trust what he says. Also he is the only one who has been on Beckett with an outstanding pose including a baseball bat and shoulder pads.
With a name like Lesbian I have to be awesome!
by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 2, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
I'll make it green.
funny stuff LM
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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looked death in the face (Al Davis)
LOL, you force me to do this. Be thankful I am allowing everyone to hide it.
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Someone kill it!
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~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 2, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that for real? Is that really Al, and if so what the heck happened and what was he up to?
I like collard greens.
Whatever curse he was dishing out in that pic...
I’m pretty sure that person is dead by now. Or comatose.
Or maybe he was sapping their life force a la Sheng Tsung. (which oddly seems to be the most likely scenario in my opinion)
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
I hate that picture
Hate it. Creepy looking bastard….
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 2, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew he reminded me of somebody.....
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by MMA_PITBULL on Sep 2, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just Holy Shit
Seriously, how the hell has Al Davis not sued Lucas for using his likeness in Star Wars for the emperor?
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
Settle down, Bo.
Cam’s good…but he’s not a hybrid of Marino, Vick, and Bettis.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
He went on to say that Marino, Vick and Bettis touched their pp’s together and that’s how Cam Newton came to be.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 2, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Can
we get ESPN to make a hybrid pic of that, like they did with the white vick?
And over there in the tree, is a chipmunk nest. And that right there, is our corn, best in the city, it's delcious. And that is a crazy lady. So now you pretty much know what I do. Pretty dang exciting, huh?
Jason likes Bo's assessment
jason thinks cam is gonna kill some people this year….Jason is also excited to see football in 9 days or so.
Haha
is that in reference to him saying he runs like Bo?
HAHAHA
And over there in the tree, is a chipmunk nest. And that right there, is our corn, best in the city, it's delcious. And that is a crazy lady. So now you pretty much know what I do. Pretty dang exciting, huh?
Or was it like the seinfeld episode of talking about yourself in the 3rd party?
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Once he gets going, perhaps.
But I think Vick gets to top speed faster…hence his faster 40-time. (Cam had horrible starts to both 40s at the combine, but I’d wager that you could put his 20-40 yard split up against anyone.)
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 2, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
that vick looks quick cause of his size. Cam is a monster and looks slower, but isn’t. Kind of like Bolt running.
And over there in the tree, is a chipmunk nest. And that right there, is our corn, best in the city, it's delcious. And that is a crazy lady. So now you pretty much know what I do. Pretty dang exciting, huh?
That’s kind of what Buckner said that Cam is so fluid in his motion
by David Threatt on Sep 2, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Threatt
Who is that huney you are holding on too in that pic? meow!
And over there in the tree, is a chipmunk nest. And that right there, is our corn, best in the city, it's delcious. And that is a crazy lady. So now you pretty much know what I do. Pretty dang exciting, huh?
haha easy there killer that’s my fiancee.
by David Threatt on Sep 2, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, congratulations to you sir!
Excellent, excellent work my friend.
I agree with this.
On that run last night that got him 19-20 yards it looked like it was only 10 yards to me until I rewatched it. He has such huge strides that he picks up more yards with less steps and hence doesn’t look like he’s running as fast.
Lol
No kidding man! After the run I punched my couch out of anger because I didn’t think he got a 1st down then I heard the announcers say " a 20 yd pick up from Newton" then I was like, wtf? How the hell was that 20 yds?
I think Cam could have thrown the ball to Smith,
and then outran the ball to Smith so he could block for Smith too.
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so there's a play in the play book where
cam throws to cam, then laterals to Smitty and then blocks for Smitty.
how exciting!
If Brad Johnson can do it
Then Cam can.
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by Jake Humphrey on Sep 2, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah maybe
I wouldn’t have argued Cam is faster than Vick either until I heard it from former NFL players. Not sure if that interview is on podcast but, it was on bret jensens show and Buckner sounded like he wanted to date Cam. It was a good interview.
by David Threatt on Sep 2, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard bits and pieces of it.
LOL @ Buck wanting to date Cam.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 2, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t like listening to Jensen, I disagree with everything he usually says. And I couldn’t stand listening to Buckner bash the Panthers all day when it was Frank and Buck but, Buck sounds like he turned the corner. He said, Cam’s upside is greater than Vick’s
by David Threatt on Sep 2, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Me either.
I probably email him daily just to tell him he’s an idiot, in so many words.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Sep 2, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He won’t admit it on air but, the night we drafted Cam he was up at Angry’s and said that drafting Cam was the dumbest thing the Panthers could ever do. You can tell he hates Cam
by David Threatt on Sep 2, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Buck said, "Cam's upside is greater than Vick's".....
I can live with that. But I’ll wait to see if Cam can levitate in the air for more than five yards before I make my decision.
Ugh...
That play where Vick literally flew 6 or 7 yards into the end zone as all Dan Morgan could do was tap him to try and down him by contact…. It still haunts me.
Here Are Those Combine Numbers "ERL"
Here is how Cam ranked among QB’s at the combine.
Name (Size) – 10 Yard Split – 20 Yard Split – 40 Time – 3-Cone Drill – 20 Yard Shuttle
Tyrod Taylor (6-0 3/4, 217) – 1.50 – 2.50 – 4.51 – 6.78 – 4.08
Cam Newton (6-5, 248) – 1.59 – 2.60 – 4.59 – 6.92 – 4.09
Jake Locker (6-2 1/2, 231) – 1.60 – 2.58 – 4.59 – 6.77 – 4.12
Christian Ponder (6-2, 229) – 1.57 – 2.62 – 4.62 – 6.85 – 4.09
Blaine Gabbert (6-4 3/8, 234) – 1.59 – 2.70 – 4.62 – 6.84 – 4.26
Colin Kaepernick (6-4 5/8, 2330 – 1.60 – 2.63 – 4.53 – 6.85 – 4.18
This was the most athletic, and fast QB’s I can remember.
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Cam is going to be a beast. If someone showed you Cam’s full drive from last night then told them this is from a rookie QB that never played under center in college and has only been in the pros for 4 weeks, they would tell you get mental help. The point is Cam is looking phenomenal considering his situation. That one pass to Shockey as Cam was getting knocked to his knees was like watching art. (still don’t know why a pass interference call wasn’t made). Also, after Anderson’s stellar performance this season, I hope that makes the coaching staff even more open to letting cam run a lot more, if he does get injured at least we got Anderson.
I agree with you for the most part
I think Cam has really been the highlight of this team this preseason.
Considering the situation he has been put in and the time he has been in the league he has done very well.
If the defense could keep games close this year Cam is the kind of player that could make a miraculous play at any moment and win the game in the 4th quarter.
I posted an article of Bo talking about Newton in the pan souts b4 i read this.
I didnt know it was mentioned in this article.
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Tangibles?
Doesn’t he mean “intangibles”? Either way, his tangibles are great – his intangibles are yet to be seen. My hope is that he takes the same attitude into the regular season that he has had the whole preseason: “I won’t be satisfied until I get it all right.” He has shown improvement so far and that all-important intangible, humility, is what will separate him from early Michael Vick (as Vick self-reported in ESPN the mag). He will only have potential until then.
Yeah...he correctly used tangibles when talking about his athleticism...
but I fully expected him to then bolster his argument by talking about the intangibles…but he left me hanging. Bo could carry the football but he couldn’t always carry a thought
Well he did go to Auburn...
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
BW, that was wrong
I went to NC State and don’t have a dog in this fight; but that was wrong!! I did laugh!!
Bo is smarter than given credit for now
He is on the board of one of the top 5 small banks in the country, founded during the “recession”. Perhaps Bo just has a hard time stringing together a coherent sentence, lol. I still wonder what would have happened if he hadn’t busted his hip.
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
Oh
And about the article. I expect a big stink to be raised over his comments about Cam being faster than Vick, the similar uproar we heard when Pippen said Lebron is better than MJ a few months back.
I expect any day now for Skip Bayless to go ape shit over Bo’s comment and that’s all we will hear about for weeks then Bo will come out and claim he " mis spoke". Seen this song and dance a million times.
nice
"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson
Can't wait to see him do that in a Panther uniform.
I will never forget that time Mike Vick when playing for Atlanta was running for the end zone and I forget which Panthers had him in their sites and Vick from what seemed like 20 yards away leaped off the ground and stretched out for the endzone , and you knew he was going to land 10 yards short, but he stayed about 2 feet off the ground and kept going and going and stretched out for the TD. Could’t believe it.
I like collard greens.
Found this when I was looking for the pic above and thought I had to post it just cause it so funny!
Dog looks pretty hungry.
I like collard greens.
Newton/Smith run
Ok is it just me or was that run kind of funny to watch(exciting but funny) We had Smith blocking for Newton size wise it just looked odd(I know it wasnt a play it was just what happened)
I thought the funniest part of it was the eye contact prior to the run
Newton broke through the hole the instant Smith came over on his cross…there was a glance like “oh its on!” and Smith turns upfield with cam to run people over.
Yeah
Only thing missing was a “head nod” of sorts
"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson
There was a front facing camera view where you could see just how far newton towers over smitty
it was really entertaining to see.
This comment section has officially been Tater'd.
Bo knows football
and I hope he knows what he talkin about with Cam
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
Another big upside to Cam is his attitude.
That locker room is going to be a great place to be this year. Between Cam and the way he handles himself and Shockey with his constant smile and enthusiasm. Going to be cool to see where this goes. You know I hope they win a lot of games this year even though the chances are slim, but I look forward to watching this team grow week by week, and I am sure that every game will have at least a few jaw dropping moments just like that pass to Shockey last night as Cam was being dropped to the ground. That was amazing!
I like collard greens.
I agree, I am a firm believe in the "Any Given Sunday" mentality.
Although chances are slim at this point everybody is 0 – 0 and anything can happen.
As long as we at least compete this year I will be happy. Last year was tough to watch, I hope this year is at the very least interesting watching these young guys develop, compete and hopefully win some games!
Bo must be smoking crack
The quality of receivers and linemen? Has he been watching the games? So far I don’t see a lot of quality receivers and the O line has been a bit of a mess.
Oh OK
Good idea. I should have done the same but that part really stuck out to me.
Yea
Hope Bo is right.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Sep 2, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea...
Panthers Defense is scary badd…I doubt to many DC’s are losing sleep planning for the game changing brandon lefell or the “Homerun Hitter” david clowney or even Edwards the Second Coming of “Slash”..or to many OC’s are worried about putting there WR on Munnerlyn Island
Good Point
We should just forfeit every game and try hop scotch or dodge ball.
With a name like Lesbian I have to be awesome!
by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 2, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
We could always try Jinga or scrabble.
by doug2626 on Sep 2, 2011 3:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good point!
Cam’s athleticism should really help us on Scrabble
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by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 2, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Newton, playing scrabble:
LAPTOP: that’s a triple word score.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
by BW Smith on Sep 2, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hopefully...
Cam wont have the distractions that Vic had….woof woof. If he stays focused, in a few years we’ll be sayin Vick who?
Bo knows
Bo may have exaggerated a bit on the Bus comment but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong. My concern with Cam has nothing to do with any of the abilities that Bo talks about. And it’s not the stupid verbage garbage that some reporters talk about. The guy will learn that stuff and probably pretty quickly. Furthermore he has about as much poise as any QB I’ve seen. My concern is in two areas. Being able to make the best reads and more importantly consistancy with his accuracy. For example the big run he had last night where smitty was blocking for him. Smitty was blocking because he was wide open and a quick pass to hime might have resulted in an even bigger play. As for the accuracy, he can hit a dime at times and other times he misses it by ten feet. Furthermore, this is not easily learned while your on the field. I just hope that starting him so early doesn’t come back to haunt us.
Ummm
For example the big run he had last night where smitty was blocking for him. Smitty was blocking because he was wide open and a quick pass to hime might have resulted in an even bigger play.
Let’s analyse this shall we. Here’s a link for you:
Starts at :47
Smitty ran a shallow cross and was probably the 3rd read on the play. When Cam felt the pressure and ran between the tackle and guard, Smitty had just came across in front of him. Sure, he could have shoved a little push pass out to Smitty, but at a dead run, with he and Smitty running at each other, he made the correct decision by keeping the ball. As for a “bigger play”, if he flicks the ball to Smitty, he has nobody in front of him. Instead of the 2 DB’s freezing and trying to not get blocked out of the play by Smitty, they can close at full speed, break down and make the tackle for probably 5-6 less yards.
As for the accuracy, he can hit a dime at times and other times he misses it by ten feet. Furthermore, this is not easily learned while your on the field.
Actually, the best place for this to be corrected is on the field. Accuracy, whether its throwing a football, throwing a dart, throwing a baseball over home plate, throwing a booger on a loudmouth in a theater, is fine-tuned by repetition. The more reps he gets, the better he’ll get, and you don’t do that sitting on a bench. You have to remember, during all 4 of those games, they are still installing the offense. The more familiarity he has with the offense and the concepts of the offense, the more he can simply play, and not have to think about where everyone is going to be, maybe being a little late on a read, and trying to force the ball with his very strong arm. Again, you accomplish that with repetitions.
Cam being on the field gives the team an equal or better chance to win than with Anderson, and a much better chance to win than with Clausen. Add that to the fact its getting him game experience, and it amplifies how much better he will play in years 2-15 with the team. There is no downside to starting him, as he has the mental constitution to play through adversity and setbacks.
by FF Companion on Sep 2, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Remind me to be quite in the theater...
“throwing a booger on a loudmouht in a theater” LOL!!
Brilliantly summarized, sir.
The original post, that is, not the booger explanation.
Point taken
I’ll say this, I’m not an expert. But what I saw in the replay was a wide open smitty that had the same open field that Cam had. You are absolutely right about the usefulness of smitty as a blocker on the play. Unfortunately Smitty wasn’t able to do much blocking because Cam caught up to him around the same time as the defense. My point is that Smitty has made a career out of YAC. Cam is pretty awesome at running the ball and criticizing a 19 yard run seems a little picky. I pointed to that play because it was fresh in my mind. Your perspective is valid and really probably a better analysis than mine. I was just trying to think of a good example of how he still needs to expand his ability to read coverages and failing badly.
Now on the other hand I do disagree about where to best learn how to be accurate. IMHO, I believe accuracy is about proper mechanics and repetition of those mechanics. Getting those motions down so that when game speed kicks in and a linebacker is in his face, he can fall back on those mechanics and put the ball where it needs to go. I truly believe Cam will do well. I’m just concerned that starting him so quickly before those practice reps happen will prevent him from becoming the next great QB and instead he only gets to being above average to good.
Every QB in the NFL throws the ball off his back foot on occasion when they've got pressure in their face.
It’s human nature to protect your knees and livelihood when you’ve got a 330 lb gorilla bearing down on you.
This is just an issue because Cam is under a microscope because of the stigma of being a spread QB with poor mechanics. I feel like his real issue isn’t accuracy, it’s more about consistency. His mechanics are fine, he’ll learn how to get the ball off and still avoid contact with time, limiting his off balance throws, and his accuracy will increase. Just my opinion in this case, with this QB. There are many who say sit the rooks, and many who say throw them in there. With Cam, I think you throw him in there. I could be wrong, but I hope I’m not.
Agreed on the consistency
When I say accuracy I mean consistant, reliable accuracy which I think is what you are saying. I’m slightly on the side of sitting him a year but we are on the same page with everything else. And I think it’s fair to say every Panthers fan in the country wants Cam to succeed. So I’ll happily be wrong about when is best for him to start.
Nobody knows when any qb should start.
You never know because it never happens until it happens. If a qb is good and he sat, there is no way of knowing if he may have been good b4 he sat. If a qb plays right away and sucks, there is no way of knowing if he would have ever been good. It’s ll speculation.
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Smitty is 5'9"
On your great discovery where Smitty was open, you fail to use Cam’s perspective as the passer. The Steelers were playing zone and you will notice that Smith was open with both blocking and rushing linemen between him and Cam. I submit to you that at 5’9", Smitty was not seen by the QB until he has started to run and the alley opened on the left between DE and DT. Cam made the absolute right read to run. If he even sees Steve, in order to to hit him, he has to throw high to clear the line, meaning Steve gets a very short pass that his high. His hands go over his head to catch a bullet pass(it can’t be floated at that distant and area) if he misses it, it’s intercepted.
Cam was right to run.
Since you linked the highlight reel, let's look at the next play shown...
This was the 10 yd TD pass to Shockey.
Cam was under center, and took a perfect 3-step drop, balancing perfectly, and getting the pass off with velocity and accuracy, as quickly as any top NFL QB can be expected to.
I would think it rare to see a rookie QB, with so few reps in his experience, show this combination of skills.
As this is demonstrated further, in games ahead, think what the fear of such quick-hitting plays will do to a defense’s hesitations, and how it will in turn help our rushing attack.
How many QBs can break off a 20-yd run, off-tackle, when being blitzed, and then throw a dart to a big TE, after a quick 3-step drop, coming from under center? How many?
That was rhetorical, but I’ll wait while the counting begins. (I can’t think of any.)
Vick, Randal Cunningham, Fran Tarkenton (not today though), Roethlisberger, and I've seen David Garrard do it a few times.
But it’s impressive nonetheless (sp?).
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 3, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, I'll buy those.
Still good company to be in, after so little NFL experience.
i just dont get it...
I read about this on PFT and all the comments were how unintelligent and inaccurate Cam is. Do these supposed “fans” of football not pay attention or do they just not care how inaccurate and unintelligent they look.
by doug2626 on Sep 2, 2011 3:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Stupid is as stupid...
I’m not sure I have seen a single person say Cam is not smart but accuracy is a different subject all together. And when we talk accuracy, it is a consistancy thing. At times he is crazy accurate but it’s too unpredictable up to now. Things can change but I’ve seen him hit guys in stride and I’ve also seen him miss a guy four yards in front of him standing wide open in the end zone (see national championship). The big pass to Edwards in the first preseason game should have been a TD but Cam under-threw him. So we “fan” have a legit point even if you disagree.
Maybe not you but I have sen a hundred people saying he isnt intelligent enough to learn a pro play book.
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Cam must be intelligent to get past Rivera and JR's concerns
With that being said, if Cam isn’t intelligent according to the “other people” you are referring, I wonder what that really says about them.
99% of them
probably never seen him and just read stats and other news (that doesnt watch the games) about Newton. He has impressed the coaches and owner with his ability to learn the play book and thats good enough for me.
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The first minute I heard him in an interview my impression was....
Cam is an intelligent choir boy with great manners. He is blessed to have had a family teach him the tools to survive in this world. I researched this to see if he was doing a con job and “absolutely” nothing in his past public exposure shows him to be different than what we are hearing from him now. JR or Hurney have made a great decision. Now let’s hope that Cam has an unbelievable career. It will be so fabulous to experience a hall of fame quarterback’s games.
Ok
My bad. Sorry if I came off as a prick. I thought you were talking to me and I couldn’t resist replying.
No I wasn’t talking to you. Sorry you thought that. I have no idea what your prior feelings about Cam or the Panthers for that matter have been. I just started paying attention to names on here.
by doug2626 on Sep 2, 2011 10:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My prior feelings are...
Personally, I am a huge Panthers fan. I’m from PA and started following the Panthers when they drafted Kerry Collins because I was a fan of him too. When he got himeslf into all that stupid crap and was released, I stuck around. Now I live in MS. It sucks hardcore to be around Saints fans all the time and to only see saints games on tv but it is what it is.
As for Cam, I will honestly say I didn’t like him in college and I thought the decision to draft him was not smart because he was a risk. With the first pick, I wanted us to grab the best sure thing we could in the positions we needed (P. Peterson, M. Dareus, or J. Jones are all pretty much locks to succeed and do it immediately). I was also affraid Cam might be thrown in too soon and get caught up in having a good time off the field (like Kerry Collins did) both hurting his development. But so far, I’ll say this, it’s looking like I might have been wrong. Sure, Peterson and Jones have have good preseasons but Cam has shown good leadership, played well on the field, had an excellent attitude on and off the field, and worked very hard. No one can ask any more of him. Which is why I’m a converted Cam Fan who’s just affraid that starting him too early might hurt more than help. But hopefully I’m wrong about this too.
You must have NEVER been on the Charlotte Observer website.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Yeah, your right about that.
I was refering to people on here. I tend to avoid the observer at all costs.
I would have to say there is a difference between being inaccurate and inconsistent. Right now its inconsistancy and my main point is that there is a lot of Cam hate out there for no reason. It wasn’t too long ago that it took a year or two to label someone a bust, now before he took a preseason snap you had analysts and fans calling him a bust. Ignorance and impatience is rampant.
by doug2626 on Sep 2, 2011 5:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think many are going to get this...but well played.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I would have to say No
F=ma
Newton weighs 256lbs or 116.1kg.
He ran the 40 yard dash (36.6m) in 4.59 sec
I read somewhere that the average athlete accelerates in the first 27.6 yards and the velocity is constant for the final 12.4 yards, so he accelerated from 0 to 20mph (8.94 m/s) in 27.6 yards (25.2m) in the first 3.1 seconds according to video. So his acceleration was 8.94/3.1 = 2.88 m/s^2
F = 116.1 * 2.88 = 334.4 Newtons
But, I will say that anything over 333 Newtons feels like you got run over by a truck.
So...
what would be the minimum weight of a movable object(let’s say a DB for argument sake) need to be to absorb 334.4 Newtons and stop said object?
Hmmm
If Newton is running at a DB, he breaks down and “explodes” into the tackle, he’d be accelerating through a meter in about .5 seconds so that would make a=2 m/s^2.
So m = F/a, so that would make his mass have to be, m = 333.4 N / 2 m/s^2 = 166.7 kg
So the DB would have to weigh about 367.5 pounds.
Conclusion: Cam will truck a bunch of DB’s this season, better bring a linebacker or lineman.
by FF Companion on Sep 2, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Those DBs who were back-tracking and side-stepping (check them out in slo-mo), when he was in the open field, must have done their physics computations before the game...
…because they were surely trying to avoid being his poster-child.
I think this season we’ll see some Safeties auditioning for matador roles.
because i thought it was an excellent bad pun
i love bad puns.
oops, thought you were asking why i liked your comment.
well, that answer still stands. but i liked FF companion’s comment because i’m a part-time physics nerd.
He's the starting QB for the Carolina Panthers who
doesn’t eat crayons
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Dont you mean DC's?
But I’m not seeing many OC’s out there being scared of him just yet.
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The Essence is on point
Bo may have exaggerated some, but the essence of what he’s saying correct. Cam Newton has all the tools to be special. I think that’s all Bo meant.
Been forever...
I refrained from posting my usual hyperbole and outrageous predictions (some came true). I wanted to wait till the preseason was over. Now I can go ahead and say what I felt after watching these preseason games. Cam Newton is going to be alot better than I expected. I want so bad to say toldyaso about Pickled speedo, but seeing as how I snuck it into this sentence using a qualifier….I’ll press on.
Defense will be alot better than the preseason showed…though we do need ONE DT who can stand up without spraining his food processor.
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