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How we as fans approach players

At its heart the NFL is a business, we all know that. Players talk about this business aspect when it comes to signing new contracts, being traded or holding out for more money. Teams also understand this business relationship when it comes to cutting players, choosing not to re-sign veterans or trading players. 

As fans we straddle the middle, and much like the CBA negotiations this off-season we saw splintering of NFL fans who sided with the players or the owners. Ultimately there is no true 'side' that fans are on when it comes to these issues, and this is because we have a greater emphasis on emotional attachment to players and teams.

Never was this issue of business vs. personal attachment so prevalent today with the news of Thomas Davis' third ACL tear in two years. The reaction from fans was equally heartwarming and disgusting as the initial news came across Twitter and I'll talk about this range of emotions after the jump. 

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It's easy to forget the human aspect of the NFL when all we concentrate on is business. When it's all said and done these are still men, husbands and fathers who are trying to make a living and provide for their families. Sure, they make an amazing living as they provide us with entertainment each Sunday, but that doesn't mean we should view players as disposable like paper towels.

I often kid that the biggest mistake a fan of the Carolina Panthers can make is reading the comments on the team's facebook feed. However, I couldn't help but be utterly disgusted by some of the comments on the announcement of Thomas Davis' injury. I've decided to remove names to protect the innocent, but this gives you a good idea of what kind of people are part of our fan base:

Plzzz cut this dude asap thank !

(on Davis and Beason) Get rid of both of them! I think they prefer riding the bench!!!!!

Exactly, just another Dan Morgan, we have to release him....

He signed a 5 year contract & turns around and have a 3 peat of the same injury.....he needs to be sportscenter C'mon man this friday

What can you say to these troglodytes people? This is what happens when any semblance of humanism is thrown out in window in favor of some selfish motivation. I'm not saying all fans need to be altruistic all the time; after all, one of my jobs as a writer is to constantly talk about who should/could be cut, who is on the bubble and letting you know which players are 'camp fodder'. In this way it's a necessary part of the job, however, to take that one step further and immediately start calling for a player to be cut who was injured goes beyond being a steadfast fan, and becomes cruel.

This isn't a new phenomenon. Sure it happened today, and will happen each and every time these situations arise, but I just think it's so callous and wrong to begin balling up and tossing away a player like Thomas Davis, even if the unfortunate truth is that his career as a Panther could very well be over.

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Wish Davis and Beason nothing but the best

So they can comeback next season and beast on some bitches

by rscott94 on Sep 19, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Those guys probably don't show up for the games.

To be honest, I care little about those kinds of people. They’re haters.

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by Revshawn on Sep 19, 2011 10:25 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

They're not fans, plain and simple.

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by KaiserBromley on Sep 19, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

is there any way we can restructure TD's contract?

i know we have the injury opt out clause, but i don’t want him to no longer be a panther if he comes back. But once again, we cant pay that enormous contract that he would have without the opt out clause. Any way we can bring him back on a new deal…again? I love TD and I really don’t want to believe this is the end of his carolina career, or his career at all.

"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain

by SouthernPanther on Sep 19, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Well, was trying to keep it a little PG… though I failed further into the post.

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by Ivan459 on Sep 20, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

We see it still and it finds ready support even here. Case in point Julius Peppers or Clausen.

Visceral dislike for player for his lack of competence. Seething hatred for a player based on incomplete information and assumptions. I’m just as guilty of it as others at times. We let our emotions get out of control and the impersonal nature of the internet leads people to say things they’d never dare to do in person. We even do it to one another here.

Generally speaking I try to live my life in a manner in which I do not say anything about a person that I would not say in front of them. It’s not easy, but I’d like to think I hold up to that standard. I do my best to let that carry over here and fail often enough that I force myself to stay away for awhile until I can gain some semblance of class again. Anyways, I’ll try and get off my soapbox now.

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by Vagus on Sep 19, 2011 10:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

You Are Certainly Right "Vagus", I'm Shocked By The Many Ungreatful Post Today That Only Dwell On Cam Newton's 3 Ints Sunday

They blame Cam for the Panthers losing the game because of his 3 ints, but mostly ignore that he was 98% of the Panthers offense, with 432 yards passing, and 53 yards rushing.

How many points they think the Panthers would have scored on the only 18 yards of offense not provided by Cam Newton.

They dwell so much on those 3 ints that they must longing for the good old days of 2010, when Jimmy Clausen was averaging slightly less than 1 int per game.

by PanthersRoar on Sep 19, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen James, Thanks For The Post, & I Hope Everyone Reads It

The people who made those post only consider the time actually spent in the NFL games each week as what is required for their salaries. They don’t understand the lifetime of training and preperation for their their NFL careers. They don’t understand these athletes have to train each day of their lives, for more hours each week than most of them work on their jobs. These players work harder in their “free time” training than they have ever worked in their own lives. They don’t understand that proper nutrition, in strictly measured quanties is a part of every meal they eat, and enhanced by a reqular routine of nutritional supplements. Those are just some of the demands placed upon each NFL player. They don’t understand that winning and NFL roster spot is like winning a lottery, and that while their own careers may extend over 40 or 50 years, a NFL players chosen career may only last for 4 years (if he’s not injured before then), and at most only around 10 to 12 years or so. They don’t understand that some players like ex-Ravens CB Chris McAlaster wind up totally broke, and living with their parents just a few years after retiring from the NFL.

For having to go through all that, maybe these players are under paid, and those fans that post such things are just jealous.

by PanthersRoar on Sep 19, 2011 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I found myself arguing with more than one of person during the lockout about how NFL athletes are underpaid considering how short their careers are and how much work they put in during their “free time.” Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to convince anyone — they all seemed to be very hypocritical in their views in the end :/

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by crooked5 on Sep 21, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally Agree

CSR is the best Panthers site there is because of the level-headedness when it comes to Panthers news. Nothing more annoying than an armchair general manager.

by Lakewell on Sep 19, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're absolutely right.

I don’t post a lot, but this site is the only Panthers site I browse for all the latest news. It gave me a lot of hope during the lockout.

by EricUnltd on Sep 20, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

The internet is a mask of anonymity, and a source of "digital courage."

There are scores of cowards, lowlifes, and sociopaths across the globe that hide behind it 24/7. Nothing turns me off more than a forum where there are several dozen comments from “Anonymous.”

Unfortunately, even when a site requires some semblance of identity in order to post, people will still type things that they would never dare to whisper in someone’s ear out in public.

I canceled my Facebook account a few months ago for these very reasons. In an odd way, fan blogs like CSR and RoF were much more genuine to me than Facebook ever was.

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by Newsinz on Sep 19, 2011 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate to say it but people seem to be revealing their true nature and intent on digital media

A society full of foolish and uneducated/misguided people is not going to get any better as time goes by. This type of hateful expression will only get worse, no laws will make it better. Educating people at a young age about how to treat their fellow man would be an ideal way to solve the situation. However, I feel it may be way beyond repair. It’s only a matter of time before the majority of these knuckleheads allow their emotions dictate their actions in public. We are seeing cases of this periodically with violence at the Raiders/49ers and Cowboys/Jets games, it may end up being the norm.

by jdough on Sep 20, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's a name for this phenomenon:

It’s called the Greater Internet F@#kwad Theory:

by Floods on Sep 21, 2011 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

His generous charity work...

shouldn’t be forgotten when measuring his impact on this team and the community. He’s sacrificed more than just his body for the city of Charlotte and that is something you can’t put a price on.

by Derek Leazer on Sep 19, 2011 11:05 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Those guys...

are a minority..the business aspect of it is that players have a short career and have to make all the money they can, it’s very rare that a player goes past 10 years, unless they are kickers, when you look at a player like Julius Peppers, you can’t really hate’em for going to “greener pastures”, you can hate him for talking smack but he was going nowhere at the time with the Panthers and he was expected to hold up a team..The fan favorite leaves for more money and as a fan it’s a let down, but if the same player who is on the decline a fan would want the player cut or traded..People tend to forget that they are men and humanbeings that are husbands and fathers, but that make a lot of money in a business driven by customer loyality..

by ams6378 on Sep 19, 2011 11:08 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

there are alot of idiots out there.....

They just don’t have the capacity to have genuine care and admiration for these guys as they should. That beng said, the wondrful thing about this whole situation to me is that the real definition of a man isn’t about what he has accomplished in life, its about the people he has touched. TD has been amazing on and off the field, and while I doubt that he will play again, we as admirers should back him up and lift him up to help him through the hard times as he has for others. TD, have faith, unless you decide to take your life in a different direction, you can make it happen. If you do choose a different path I will gladly support u there as well. Once again, u have my undying admiration!

by braves&panthers4ever on Sep 19, 2011 11:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

WOW

off subject, but just seeing the stats on tonight’s MNF game. Against the Packers cam had just 99 less passing yds then Bradford and Manning COMBINED in tonights game. That is flippin insane!!

Sorry, for the change of subject lol. And yes a lot of these “fans” are douchebags.

by NewtoniumPanthers57 on Sep 20, 2011 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

i felt bad

After thinking about my first reaction to the situation. I instantly was mad because the panthers wont be as good on defense. Then I started thinking "why am I being so selfish? ". This guy has been working for two straight years to get back on the field and then this happens? Man, I can’t imagine how disappointing and frustrating this injury is tgo mr. Davis. Its easy to get caught up as at fan and start to have bad intentions. One of my friends was talking about Vicks concussion and said he deserved it for trying to run all the time. His statement really upset me because I will NEVER root for any player to get hurt or say someone deserves to get a serious injury as serious as a concussion. I know at the beginning of the year everyone was complaining about the new kick off rules and I wanted to ask them, if they can stop one player from being paralyzed, isn’t it all worth it? There is a point where you have to realize that these are these people’s livelihoods at stake. Sometimes it just makes me sick the way fans treat each other and some people rooting for people to get hurt. I guess that ends my badly written rant.

by JStewart28 on Sep 20, 2011 1:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

We can put him on IR, obviously... and see how things go...

But for the best interested of Thomas Davis, the man not the player, I don’t think he should play anymore. This isn’t a case of “lightning striking twice” but 3 times now. As tenacious as Davis has been, I really think that this will only end worse for him if he keeps trying to come back.

The only way I can describe my mindset now is… cathartic.

by aceofsween on Sep 20, 2011 1:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I fear that his playing days are over

His family needs to sit down with him and have a real talk. If he doesn’t stop now he may never be able to walk again after he turns 35. I love the player, and I wish we could have him here and healthy forever, but he should make his health and family a priority now.

This comment section has officially been Tater'd.

by Tater596 on Sep 20, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, and it's strange that we here on CSR use complete sentences and punctuation...

Reasons I don’t look at stories or comments elsewhere? The cryptic and illiterate button pushes of neanderthals and the general stupidity of people everywhere else. Am I proclaiming CSR and it’s people are better than everyone else? YES, actually, I AM. I’m very thankful for this community.

More on topic, although these injuries give me sad faces, they’re happening everywhere. Too many here, too many everywhere. Sadly, it’s probably going to keep piling on the league throughout the year. As always, all my best goes out to Beason, Davis and all our boys on IR. Miss you!

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by SwankTheTank on Sep 20, 2011 1:51 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

No need to return to silence...

We’re always up for new people joining the conversations.

Welcome to CSR!

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by BW Smith on Sep 20, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

The more sane people we can gather in one place, the better.

This comment section has officially been Tater'd.

by Tater596 on Sep 20, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

all we need is one more and we'll have

the same number as Cam wears on his shirt on Sundays.

by Floods on Sep 21, 2011 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I stopped reading the comments on the FB feed

People there are so incredibly ignorant, it’s like they have no filter between their brain and mouth. They aren’t fans.

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by Smitty89 on Sep 20, 2011 2:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely!

There are so many dumb-asses on the Panthers Facebook page and it’s sickening to read some of the things they write. I usually troll with a cause and give them a hard time. I just get tired of senseless banter from so-called “fans.”

by EricUnltd on Sep 20, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

What else would you expect?

You have to be pretty self absorbed to be on Facebook in the first place. Tip: No one really cares about what you’re doing and your status.
Come, join the real world.

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by Wildcat on Sep 20, 2011 4:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Now you’re going too far in the other direction.

I use FB mainly to keep in touch with my friends up north after I moved down here to SC, and they like hearing from me.

by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 20, 2011 5:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd have to agree with you there.

Even though I closed my FB account, there were a LOT of good reasons to keep it. It was a really tough decision that I struggled with for about a month (believe it or not), but I really just wanted to let go of some of the “extra” stuff in my life and refocus myself. I lost contact with a lot of good, genuine friends in the process, though.

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by Newsinz on Sep 20, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am with you whole heartedly about dropping FB

Deleted my FB account a month ago and now just use Twitter. I find that I actually call friends and family more now that the FB time suck is out of my life. Plus, it is a really shitty company. They exist at this point to sell you to companies, where twitter exists to sell companies to you. It is a fine line, but I would rather be sold to than sold.

Plus Twitter got me on stage with Michael Ian Black, FB got me nothing.

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by Oi2dwrld on Sep 20, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is how I use facebook too

It’s my easiest, most reliable way to keep in contact with all my friends in Australia without worrying about time zone differences.

Thanks to FB I have a basic understanding of what everyone is doing in their lives, and I like that

by James Dator on Sep 20, 2011 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I don’t really care to know that you’re waiting in an elevator or eating an ice cream sandwich and it tastes really yummy, but it’s nice being able to check in on friends and see what’s going on.

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 20, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

But my ice cream sandwich WAS really yummy. Asshole.

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by BW Smith on Sep 20, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

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by Ivan459 on Sep 20, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glad you liked it.

It was filled with my AwesomeSauce.

I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.

by BusyBeingAwesome on Sep 20, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ewwww

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Walker for '11 ROY!
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by Newsinz on Sep 20, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I just threw up in my mouth...

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by BW Smith on Sep 20, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree Slayer.

I’m just about the only member of my family that doesn’t live in NY or PA. I wouldn’t have a clue what was going on with my old friends and family without Facebook. It definitely has it’s place in society. Truthfully, I probably don’t use it more than 5-10 minutes per day, yet I am able to keep in touch better than if I were to spend hours per week on the phone.

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by ALAC on Sep 20, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

These people just aren't "true" fans of the team.

If they were, they would know and understand the contributions of our players.

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by ALAC on Sep 20, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Future

I feel Beason has the inner drive to come back and play at the upper level. With TD it’s a different situation, he has the heart but the knee might not respond to treatment. I hope I’m wrong but if not maybe they can find a spot on staff so his present can still be felt.

by Cwilly1 on Sep 20, 2011 8:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think every one of these assholes deserves to have their knee blown out, to see how they like it

These people make me sick… I cannot even fathom what it takes to say such things about a person. My only rational conclusion is that they have never felt pain in their lives, and assume that anyone who does is weak and doesn’t deserve the life given them.

Beast and TD – Real fans understand your pain, and that you are just like the rest of us. You may be professional athletes, but when you’re hurt, you hurt just as much as we would. I wish you both a speed recovery, and a fulfilling time spent with your family on and off the field.

This comment section has officially been Tater'd.

by Tater596 on Sep 20, 2011 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Beautifully said Jamie. Rec'd

This comment section has officially been Tater'd.

by Tater596 on Sep 20, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nicely said Jamie.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 20, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great post.

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by OldhamA on Sep 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

You hit that Jimmy part right on the head!

I felt bad after reading that lol

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by Panther down South on Sep 20, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's funny to me is these so called "fans" are mad at TD for giving it his all.

He goes out there every time and gives us what we need and more. Yet I haven’t heard one negative Nancy bring up the surgeons who continue to operate on his knee. I think it is pretty clear, that the only thing we need to do with TD is restructure his contract. He is not ready to give football up, and I don’t want to lose him, even if he is injury prone. He is a leader, a fan favorite, and a pleasure in the locker room for the other guys. Most importantly he is a fighter, and until he says he is ready to call it quits, then I don’t think we should quit on him.

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by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 20, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry James, but as the players tell us all the time: it's a bidness.

I can’t fault fans for showing the same loyalty to the players that they show to them.

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by OldhamA on Sep 20, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

well put oldham

as much as i like thomas davis its probably time to part ways, he is a big time playmaker when healthy but it is hard to make plays on IR especially when your there 3 years in a row.

by amart012 on Sep 20, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey everyone new to cat scratcher. Question to James do you think we could pick up lofa tupa to help our LB

by poundthosecakes on Sep 20, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Sad

I know Beason will be back next year but I fear this could be the end of Davis’ career. I feel terrible for him. He had just finished up his college degree, rehabed from his second ACL tear and was ready to come back and give us one of the best LB cores in the league, now he might never play again. I wish him all the best and hopefully he can fully recover.

by bow465 on Sep 20, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I couldn't agree more... sickening.

The comments on ESPN and Yahoo are bad as well and I can’t help but fill with rage at the insensitivity and lack of emphathy. People’s true colors are easily displayed while hiding behind their computer. I am so glad you wrote about this, James.

by IsaidgoodDAY! on Sep 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I actually started off commenting on Facebook before I came to Catscratch

And I couldn’t take the immature and childish comments that were posted. I think it was said above but it wasn’t the majority but it always seemed to be one idiot to ruin a conversation. That’s why I love CSR, the base here knows what they are talking about (except a certain person who needs not to be named.) and we are truly passionate about our team. Shout out to the editors who keep the calm here and help keep the blog on track.

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by cedaghost on Sep 20, 2011 1:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i love all of you

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by Night_Scratcher on Sep 20, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Your profile pic is rad...

Hahaha! Die Falcons…

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by SwankTheTank on Sep 20, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet they won't say it to Beason face!

Haha these suckaz will get smacked up quick! Haha

by DeeCamz on Sep 20, 2011 1:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

they won't say it to anyones face

because they are pussies

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by Night_Scratcher on Sep 20, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Ignorance is bliss...

I hate reading such negative comments about our team. Our players. I don’t want to hurt these people, but I would love to maybe critique them as they slug through their worthless lives. I bet they hate themselves. They loath their wives. They eat shit on a daily basis at work and can’t stand to see someone make their entire lifes finances in the matter of a few years, and they want you to know it. Let them hate. Let them bitch and moan. They cannot be helped. They cannot be saved. They will, however, be the first to tell you I told you so, I have always loved so-and-so, and I’m the biggest Panther fan ever…

by kittylover on Sep 20, 2011 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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