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Panthers Problems are Correctable...This Season

I actually grabbed the text from this post from a comment put forth by N Spicer (Neil), a long-time CSR member that puts forth good stuff when he can. I've tried to add him as an Author for CSR but he's playing  hard to get. If you like what he's written please let him know.

Neil Spicer and his latest Two Cents:

To win in this league, I believe...

…You’ve got to win 2 out of the 3 phases of the game. That means two of your match-ups on offense vs. the other team’s defense, your defense vs. their offense, or your special teams has to come through for you all day long. In regards to the Panthers, our offense did its job. They won their match-up and more than held their own. Yes, there were offensive penalties that stalled things for them a few times, but that happens to every team that isn’t the New England Patriots or Green Bay Packers. You’re pretty much always going to have to punt it away at some point.

For me, the Panthers fell through in the other two phases of the game. The defense did a decent job, just not decent enough. Kolb bought enough time to avoid our pass rush and find his open man. Their coaching staff called a smart game and had a decent game plan in place (offensively-speaking) and where things broke down, Kolb extended plays or made the smart read. Defensively, our guys had some serious blown assignments (i.e., the Jeff King TD and the Early Doucet TD). Those were both killers in terms of our defensive "momentum" and chances to control the game. So, to me, we lost the battle on defense. That’s one of the significant phases of the game.

Neil makes some good points...after the jump...

Star-divide

 

Of course, the special teams botched things pretty royally there at the end, too. Even with the defense holding well enough to keep the score tied, the punt coverage team blew any chance of bailing them out. To the contrary, they let a rookie known for being a dynamic punt returner in college cleanly field a ball that should have been a fair catch situation and take off up field with only about seven or eight guys to beat because at least three or four of them ran past him or were already out of position to contain his run back opportunity. Thus, we lost this phase of the game in dramatic fashion, as well. And sometimes, that’s all it takes. A few big plays or mental breakdowns and you’re staring a loss in the face rather than a win.

If you add that up, the Panthers offense posted 21 points (which is significantly better than our woeful average last year). But the defense gave up 14 easy points they shouldn’t have and the special teams gave up 7 more which they shouldn’t have. Even if two of those TDs could have been held to FGs, the Panthers would have pulled this one out. And maybe just one of them, considering Cam could have led the Panthers to a tying FG to force overtime rather than needing a tying TD.

So, if we’re assigning blame for the loss—and I think we are—I don’t believe it lies with just the penalties. It’s primarily the two phases of the game where the defense and special teams let us down. Now, despite that, I think we have two positives we can take from this game:

1) The offense looked MUCH better than anyone thought they would. Cam is maturing before our very eyes into a capable NFL QB and it only took one game and a handful of abbreviated preseason experiences to accomplish that. I think his whole process of growing into the role (as well as his natural charisma and leadership) is energizing the guys on the offense. You can see that in Steve Smith’s re-invigoration. You can hear it in Jordan Gross talking about how inspiring it is to play with Newton, because the kid hasn’t even scratched all his potential yet. You can see it in Jeremy Shockey and Greg Olsen’s eagerness to give Cam some sure hands over the middle. I also think the WRs (especially the younger ones) can draw inspiration from Cam’s maturation process to work that much harder for themselves so they can do the same. All in all, the future looks a lot brighter here than anyone could have initially imagined. Some of that might dim as we go up against the Superbowl champion Packers next Sunday, but for now, you get the immediate sense there’s more things "right" on offense now than "wrong."

2) The problems on defense and special teams can be corrected. The coaches will have plenty of fodder for lighting a fire under these units to improve. After all, if Cam can show as much improvement as he has playing under center as a rookie QB with everyone questioning his ability, why can’t the veterans on defense and new players on special teams study their film and do the same? Sure, we’ve lost Jon Beason for the year. But Dan Connor actually led the team in tackles this past week after coming off the bench. We’ve still got plenty of leadership in Thomas Davis. And problems at the DT and nickel CB positions may get addressed real soon (with a new free agent signing and the possibility of Darius Butler taking the field). Add to that some focused study and practice time for the special teams guys and, even if you just marginally improve in these areas, you can see the Panthers have a chance to take one of those other phases of the game in their upcoming matchups. I don’t expect them to beat Green Bay. And, they still may not win more than 6 games this year. Regardless, that’s a lot better than 2-14. We’ve also got most of our core players locked up and ready to return next year. We’ll have another draft to improve the roster. And we could be looking at a quick turnaround for Ron Rivera’s coaching regime similar to the way John Fox turned things around after taking over for George Siefert. It’s definitely a rebuilding process, but I think we laid a significant "foundation" for our future in the way Cam Newton handled himself and the offense this weekend.

Thus, we may have lost the battle against Arizona due to some deficiencies on defense and special teams. But we haven’t lost the war yet. And I’m not just talking about a war against the opposing teams on our schedule. I’m talking about the war against ourselves. To be better than we were before with many of the same personnel as last year, only a year improved, with a totally new scheme on offense and defense that we can already see paying dividends. I look for good things in the weeks ahead, and especially next season when the game slows down that much more for our rookies and new starters. And, yes, if we can clean up some of those penalty yards we gave up, that can certainly help, too. ;-)

But that’s just my two cents,
—Neil

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I'm glad you posted this Jaxon....

Because now I can rec what Neil said twice.

Again, excellent stuff (as always) Neil.

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by BW Smith on Sep 13, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Well...

That was unexpected, but very much appreciated. My thanks to Jaxon and the rest of the CSR crew (BW, James, etc.). When you guys promote my commentary, it immediately makes me happy and I feel like I’m one of the gang.

Thanks,
—Neil

by NSpicer on Sep 13, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Probably the best two cents I've ever seen.

Would be an awesome weekly feature to see Neil’s weekly Two Cents. Sign him up Jaxon! Or just continue to put his comments front page. Want to see more of his work

by jojoisthemann on Sep 13, 2011 10:12 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I joked about that once...

The idea of creating an article series called “My Two Cents” would be fun. I just don’t know that I’d have the time I’d need to commit to it. I work a normal day-job and already have a freelance writing career on the side (though, not in sports commentary). On top of that, I’ve got a wife and three small kids (ages 6, 5, and 2) that take up all my remaining time. So, it’s a lot to juggle. Even so, I’m a major NFL junkie and an original PSL holder for the Panthers, so I always watch the games and assess them. It’s only natural I’d pop in now and then and offer an opinion on analyzing their play. And I really appreciate how much everyone seems to enjoy my…wait for it…two-cents. ;-)

by NSpicer on Sep 13, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks again Neil for the contribution

and I can appreciate the balancing act you have

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by Jaxon on Sep 13, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds Great!!!

"It is now official... Cam Newton is now the face of our franchise.

by Caro2daheart... on Sep 13, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I took delight in Denver losing last night in John Fox season opener...

Does that make me a bad person?

"It is now official... Cam Newton is now the face of our franchise.

by Caro2daheart... on Sep 13, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

A friend and I were talking about that on twitter last night

We both found ourselves pulling for him…but then again we are both in the camp of folks that felt like it was time for him to go, but he got a bad rap. I think unless he learns from his mistakes (a la the Hoodie in Cleveland) then Broncos fans will tire of his antics soon enough.

He’s a good coach, it’s just hard to stomach that after dealing with him for as long as we did.

Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

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by Vagus on Sep 13, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

the problem with foxy was......

The definition of insanity is in general, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Foxy drove me insane with this. Whether we are referring to the horrible play calling by the marshmallow man (jeff davidson) or the fact that it seems now they didn’t try to teach the young guys as much as they should have. Anyone wonder why guys like lafell, ae, the rook dt’s, and surely cameron newton himself are looking betterthan ur average rookie with almost no prep time for the season relative to normal.

by braves&panthers4ever on Sep 13, 2011 11:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Broncos Have 2 Great 3-4 OLB Pass Rushers In Von Miller & Elvis Dumervil, But Fox Has Switched Back To His Favorite The 4-3 Defense

Fox has Dumervil back to 4-3 DE, where he is less effective than he was in his career best record 17 sack season in 2009 (on IR all of 2010). Miller will be great as either a 3-4 or a 4-3 OLB, and at least Fox has he and Dumervil on oposit sides of the defense. However, though they both got good presure on Jason Campell in the first game, but the Broncos gave up 200 yards rushing.

The Broncos pass rush will be OK with Dumervil playing 4-3 DE, and Miller blitzing from the other side, but Dumervil would be more effective as a blitzing 3-4 OLB. Fox will never play a 3-4 defense reguardless of it maybe being a better fit for the Broncos talent.

by PanthersRoar on Sep 13, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dumervil is IMO a better fit in a 4-3 scheme, although I agree Von Miller would be best

suited in a 3-4 as a rush LB. It remains to be seen what will happen. I think the true problem with Fox is if any part of his scheme isn’t in place the whole thing comes undone. He really has to have all of the pieces healthy and in place for things to work. Rare is the season where a team can manage to be healthy like that. I think that more than anything contributed to the Panthers inconsistency.

Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

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by Vagus on Sep 13, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Denver as a whole is better suited to the 4-3, and if Miller's play last night was any indication he'll do just fine in it...

There’s a good reason Denver had no qualms about switching back to the 4-3, and one need not go any further than watch the defenses of Josh Mcdaniel’s Broncos to see that a change was needed

Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski

by Tomthehomer on Sep 13, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check out this article on Fox at the Denver Post!

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_18881574

The boredom of his medieval, ball-control offense was only exceeded by its ineptitude. Worse, Fox is the guy who’s standing in the way of what the people want: Tim Tebow, America’s favorite back-up quarterback.
Is Fox’s style of play hopelessly outdated? During the featured TV game of the MNF opener, New England quarterback Tom Brady torched Miami for 517 yards passing and four touchdowns. No rookie QB in NFL history has ever come out firing like Carolina’s Cam Newton, who threw for 422 yards in his debut.

Week 1 of the season saw the league set a record for most games with two quarterbacks enjoying 300-yard performances. Can the Broncos or any other team in 2011 seriously compete for a championship with such a conservative offensive philosophy?

Ohhhh of all the great Fox/Delhomme memories I have. I am soooo glad I don’t have to hear things like this anymore about our head coach.

STEVE SMITH!

by southtunnel on Sep 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

When asked if he considered making a change at quarterback, Fox ignored the question.

No matter how many times they ask, they will get the same thing. He will ignore it.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 13, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is what it was.

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by Ivan459 on Sep 13, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

0-1 is better than being 0-2

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Sep 13, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another thing we don't have to complain about... Half-time adjustments!

We actually adjusted our gameplan this week. We responded to their defense switching from an 8-man rush to a zone, by throwing more to our TE’s instead of our WR’s. We also did something on D to sure up the run.

Maybe these weren’t huge adjustments… But they had effect. And did Fox ever make half-time adjustments even once in his career?

STEVE SMITH!

by southtunnel on Sep 13, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

One word - Schadenfreude!

We as fans anguished under his rule for the past 5 plus years (Fox lost me after the Seattle game in ‘05 when his team was grossly out coached and played) and now I take great joy in watching his antiquated, unyielding approach to the game flounder around him. When he’s fired after going 3-13 this season, then they’ll all know it wasn’t Marty/Jerry’s fault. It was what it was.

by blueridgecat on Sep 13, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The issue with Fox is...

…he comes from a certain coaching philopshy whereby you play really tough defense to keep the score down, ball control offense to augment that, and a power running game with opportunistic passing combined with an accurate FG kicker to put up enough points to win. That’s not a bad philosophy, per se. It’s just a lot harder to implement, because you actually need ALL of those elements to work out for you. If they don’t you either won’t score enough points to outlast your opponent or, if it’s your defense that’s lacking, a potent offensive team can absolutely OWN you by making you play from behind with your ball-control offense that’s ill-suited to keep up.

Ultimately, that’s what did Fox in. He couldn’t keep a team together (either due to injuries, a GM who cleaned house, an inability to develop younger players, etc.) that could adequately implement all those areas in his coaching philosophy for him. And, let’s be honest, a great passing offense covers up for a LOT of problem areas. You don’t NEED as many of those other phases of the game to work out to your advantage if your offense can score quickly and easily everytime they take the field…see Peyton Manning’s Indianapolis Colts. But as soon as Indy loses their HoF QB, you can see all the other holes in their team. He covered up a multitude of sins, basically. And, without him, they don’t have the defense to hang around. In fact, for a number of years Peyton couldn’t get Indy past their rivals to win a Superbowl because they still didn’t have a potent enough defense or special teams to “win” two out of the three primary phases of the game.

In my opinion, Fox lost that battle as well in the final years of his tenure in Carolina. He might have a good defense, but the offense and special teams would be atrocious. Or, he might have a good defense and a decent offense, but then injuries at the RB or QB position would ruin an entire season. It’s a balancing act for coaches who walk that fine of a line. And Fox finally fell over the edge once the fans and ownership lost patience with his philosophy. It just takes a long time for that kind of approach to pay dividends. And this is a “win now”…“what have you done for me lately”…kind of league.

I think Rivera understands that. And I think he’s taking the smarter approach to rebuilding this team and getting them to execute on the field. You’ve got to have a more potent offense that can flat out WIN games for you as well as come from behind when your defense or special teams are losing it for you. I don’t think Fox ever had room for that kind of approach in his philosophy. And, in fact, I don’t think he could ever identify or coach up the players necessary for it, either. It just wasn’t a focus for him. Thus, it was what it was…

My two cents,
—Neil

by NSpicer on Sep 13, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Spot on Neil! Stubborn Mule Syndrome

Fox was too rigid in his ‘run first/defense play a close game’ philosophy and didn’t make enough adjustments during the game. How many blow outs did he have while he was here? I bet you could count them on one hand. His was an approach of managing and not coaching. He didn’t teach or want a teaching staff—he preferred to lean on his vets who he trusted already knew what they were supposed to do. His aversion to a forward pass is what will ultimately do him in as this has become a passing league as you so well described in your Peyton Manning analogy.

Rivera seems open minded, tough and fair. He wants to teach and develop. He wants innovation and aggressive play. Couldn’t be more excited about our BAMF! I do feel sorry for Broncos fans because they are in for a loooong year of draw plays and non-answers.

by blueridgecat on Sep 13, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So true! Fox implements a philosophy, Rivera is utilizing a team

Had Double Trouble been running the ball well Sun, once we had a lead, I think Rivera very well would have shifted the load from Cam to our RBs. However they weren’t running well so he adjusted by going to our TE’s.

Fox would never have done this. It would have been all Double Trouble all day, despite their inefficiency… At least until the 4th quarter. And then we’d have been heaving balls to Smitty, despite ARZ at that point shifting coverage to him.

STEVE SMITH!

by southtunnel on Sep 13, 2011 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

or to sum up

he’s stuck in 1991

"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11

by revdwl34 on Sep 14, 2011 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

It made me happy, and I dont consider myself to be bad at all

After watching the way he behaved like a petulant child last year, I dont have any warm wishes towards him

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by manu4t on Sep 13, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd again

The addition of a vet DT (or two) will help the entire defense. The young DTs we have should improve in time, but it will take a while (There is techniques that need to be learned). The current scheme has been using a lot of blitzes that to create pressure up front. Unfortunately, this causes one-on-one coverage in the secondary that can break down quickly (which we saw). Vet DTs should be able to create more natural pressure on passing downs allowing more coverage in the secondary. The blitzes then can be used more strategically at that point.

As for the special team issues, that can all be fixed with coaching. The players were there to make the play. They just played it how it should of been played, not how it was played. I said it in another thread, if PP7 had been a vet that return would have been a fair catch (or let past him). Our guys just did not have the situational awareness that the fair catch signal had not been given. Luckily, this is a correctable error.

We were in a position to win this game. Errors killed us. It happens. Hopefully, the guys will learn from their mistakes and the next time they’re in position to win, they grasp it.

by Scrantsj on Sep 13, 2011 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Rivera said yesterday that they are looking for DT FA's and O-linemen.

So I think you’re exactly on page with Rivera, and we’ll see a starting vet DT come in here soon. They apparently are just patiently waiting for the right guy.

STEVE SMITH!

by southtunnel on Sep 13, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It May Be A Surprise Signing & Not Any Of The Names We've Heard

It seems that if they were going to sign DT’s Pat Williams, Jamal Williams, even rookie Frank Kearse, or DE Alex Brown they would have signed them yesterday.

by PanthersRoar on Sep 13, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see him signed now, and have the week to get settled in.

One more positive from Sunday’s game: I no longer see any hesitancy from a veteran in signing with this team. It must be plain to the league that this team is headed up.

by bigdavis on Sep 13, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Excellent point, Good Sir! That had not occurred to me, yet makes perfect sense

(perhaps explains why it hadn’t occurred to me).

So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.

by Rick Bates on Sep 13, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The one thing that encourages me the most...

…about the coaching staff for the Panthers now, is that I have a lot more trust that they can capably prepare and teach these young players to grow into their roles. I didn’t ever get the sense that Fox and his staff knew how to do that. Hence, the tendency to always trust (and play) the veterans over the rookies. In my opinion, Fox and his staff just “hoped” to land a player in the draft every year that would wow them with immediate inborn talent they wouldn’t have to coach up all that much. And that’s a dangerous way to build a team. One that didn’t pay off very well for him in the end.

by NSpicer on Sep 13, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enjoyed reading this...

twice now! I totally agree and think it’s important to reiterate something else I saw highlighted earlier on another thread which was our ‘offseason’ work/signings. We did a lot of things to make, primarily, our offense better. Signing two TE’s, drafting Cam, locking up D-Will & Kalil, keeping Smitty, picking up Piggy and my point is that we have a trifecta of defensive minds (Meeks, McDermott & BAMF) and this season is going to be a bit strange for most of us but I think their going to do what they have to do -and light a fire under some ST player’s arses- to get the other 2 phases performing as well as they can.

"When I've arrived, close my eyes"

by mcdonaldwr on Sep 13, 2011 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Rec'd the original article; rec'd the repost.

Great stuff.

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Sep 13, 2011 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Special Teams Play

One interesting thought as I consider the 7 returns for touchdowns this year is how much money is spent on only two phases of the game, offense and defense. Just ask San Diego how important ST is. For the few plays that the ST is on the field, you would think that special (no pun intended) coaching would be applied so these guys do not make a mental error. Yet it happen throughout the NFL and it hurt our team. It is easier for me to understand that if the blame is on the defense, it is because they are not talented, bad game plan, etc. However, for both the ST and the defense it comes down to blown assingments. I hope the mantra for next week is to keep your head in the game. For example, when you have a punt returner who is a threat, don’t worry about downing the ball, worry first about stopping the return.

by Deuceklinco on Sep 13, 2011 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I completely agree...

…it’s been a long time since the Panthers had a special teams captain (and coach) who I felt the team could rely on as taking it seriously…as in, like a true career in the NFL as opposed to a stepping stone to becoming a starting WR or CB. For instance, Karl Hankton was never going to make his way onto the field as a WR2 (or WR1, for that matter). But he brought more to the special teams than anyone in recent memory. The Panthers need to invest in guys who can truly bring that kind of mentality and approach to special teams. And then we need a coach who can really teach and drill everyone on that unit to follow that guy’s lead.

by NSpicer on Sep 13, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff! Rec'd the comment and I'll rec this

As a side note… you guys can see my face now, try not to get too turned on

by James Dator on Sep 13, 2011 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Totally not what I expected.

I was expecting something like this:

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 13, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rofl.

At James doesn’t say world-beating things like “Krikey”.

"You know you're in Charlotte when every day while you're having lunch in the city you hear ... "GOD Scott Fowler is a retard!"

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 13, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

*at least

"You know you're in Charlotte when every day while you're having lunch in the city you hear ... "GOD Scott Fowler is a retard!"

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 13, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol true

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 13, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know Dan Connor is a good backup

I just hope Beast can come back at 100% at all.

by chatoka on Sep 13, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Penalties were a killer

and some were bad calls as Neil suggested (Wharton holding was a joke as was TD’s “illegal contact” and the holding call on AE’s nice punt return) but we had some bad calls go our way as well so it could be considered a wash. With more experience, the mental mistakes will dissipate. More importantly, the opportunity to win was there which is all we could want from week one with this young group.

Two players stood out to me unfortunately in a bad way. Naanee’s blocking was atrocious and his lack of effort on the last series deeply concerned me. At least make a play on the ball and maybe you get the call if nothing else. Don’t just jog your route when the game is on the line. LaFell did enough to supplant Naanee as the #2 and I hope we get to see some AE sprinkled in there at WR as well. Naanee deserves a demotion.

Second was Pugh. His play has been mentioned before I know but he does not need to be our nickel CB or S. He flat out blew it on the pass to Doucet. As a safety, you miss the tackle it’s six points. Can’t happen. That was his guy. The punt return I can’t put entirely on him as the gunner he has no contain but still it was a misread on his behalf. Hopefully Butler will be up to speed by this Sunday. Pugh may be a good player down the road but at this point he needs more work. Butler and Considine might be the better choice.

Beason going down hurts but he was playing at 70% or so from what I saw. Not sure but I believe King was his guy on the busted coverage. Just saying that he wasn’t as effective as he’s been in the past due to the injury. Now it’s Connor’s chance to show what he’s got and since he’ll be a free agent next year, he’s got something to play for…his career! Beason will continue to lead from the sideline and hopefully will return better than ever next year for our SB run (gotta believe)!

Lastly, and I may be crazy for feeling this, but I think we can beat Green Bay. They will score their points as Aaron Rodgers is playing out of his mind but if we can establish a run game, sustain long drives, keep their offense on the sidelines and don’t fall behind too much, we might steal this one. Not to mention it’s our home opener! It is early enough in the season that anything can happen. Win or lose if we at least compete, we’ll be making marked improvements from last year. Looking forward to it!

by blueridgecat on Sep 13, 2011 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Frankly...

…I just don’t think we have the horses to be competitive with Green Bay. It’s one thing to hang with Arizona and lose a winnable game. It’d be an entirely different feat to challenge the Packers, even in our home opener. Not, that said…any given Sunday and all…you never know. And that’s why they play the games. The Panthers certainly will have a lot of momentum and confidence coming off a…loss. But still, will that be enough…or will Green Bay’s defense (with Clay Matthews, BJ Raji, and Charles Woodson) completely shut down Cam? I’m expecting the latter, honestly. But regardless, this will be a major step in Cam’s development as a pro-QB. If he wants to be the best, he needs to test himself against this kind of team. I’ll be watching the game with a close eye on how he handles everything. And, at least the good news is that he won’t be facing them with a huge swirl of questions about whether or not his game can translate to the NFL anymore. Instead, people will be asking if he can “do that again” against the vaunted Superbowl champions. It should be a ratings bonanza for the network that covers the game. And we’d all better get used to it. ;-)

by NSpicer on Sep 13, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd expect a better announcing team to be assigned to this one.

We’re no longer bottom feeders, and they’re the World Champs.

by bigdavis on Sep 13, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep...

…the Panthers are playing their way up to respectability again. And, Cam alone is a marquee enough guy that people want to tune in and lean forward in their seats just to see what he’ll do. You bring the Superbowl champions into the mix and it should have a stronger announcing team assigned to it.

by NSpicer on Sep 13, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Special Teams is probably easier to fix than Defense

Unlike our Defense, we have the personel to excel on Special Teams. Goody and AE have had good returns in the Pre-season, it’s just a matter of time before it happens in the reg season. They HAVE to make sure they wrap up when tackling. And we must eliminate penalties, that call back returns or allow them to kickoff from their 40 yd line.

An angry coach and a little direction can cure those things. But you can’t make a D-linemen, or DB play above their ability by barking at them. We still need players!

STEVE SMITH!

by southtunnel on Sep 13, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree...

…special teams actually doesn’t have to be as well-rounded as a defense challenged with implementing a variety of schemes. They can focus on their one hyper-specialization. So, it’s easier to find players (or coach them up) for that kind of role. The Panthers just need to devote the film study and practice sessions to it if they want to take it seriously and improve.

by NSpicer on Sep 13, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are some players that are naturally gifted for ST play, and I'm not just talking about returners and kickers.

Connor is one of those guys. I don’t know if we pulled him (or will) from ST duty with Beason now out. Barnidge was another talented guy in kick/punt coverage, now on IR. Senn basically made the team because of his ST prowess, then went out and screwed the pooch on Sunday.
Special team coverage across the league seemed to be an issue this week (just going by observation, don’t have the stats). IMO, STs took a back seat due to the shortened off-season, and it showed up in week 1. I’m sure our STs will improve when we get our personnel set and coached up.

So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.

by Rick Bates on Sep 13, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's really pretty simple, IMO

1. Get your gunners down on punt coverage, and tackle.
2. The rest of you guys – stay in your lanes.
3. Beat the crap out of the other teams’ gunners, and let Edwards have a little room to get started.

by bigdavis on Sep 13, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: players at WR

I have a feeling that the variety at WR positions has something to do with the limited offseason. If you can only get a limited playbook in due to lack of time, it makes sense to have receivers practice a limited number of those receiving roles so they execute their limited plays well and are able to play at a high level due to limited snaps. I think we’ll see a lot of that this year, but will decline somewhat as Rivera’s tenure goes on.

by ppalm on Sep 13, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I noticed many teams starting 3 WRs

We however started 2 TE’s… And for obvious reasons. Our TE’s are 2 of our top 3 receivers. We don’t have 3 WR’s to start.

STEVE SMITH!

by southtunnel on Sep 13, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

A 2 TE/2 WR Set hould Work Very Well For The Panthers

It allows the Panthers to have a balanced O-Line, so they will have a TE on both ends of the line. Olsen has the ability, and speed to split outside,and go deep, which could allow the Panthers to keep a FB in the play, with Smith as the only WR. This might help D-Will, because he seems more comfortable with a lead blocker. On passing plays theF B can be replaced with a WR.

by PanthersRoar on Sep 13, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Completely agree...

…the difference is palpable. And I think we owe it all to Cam’s natural leadership and inborn charisma. It’s clear to me that other players want to match his accomplishments. He inspires better play out of everyone around him. And, when needed, he’s shown that he’s got the physical attributes to take over a game. Now, we just need the other areas of the team to step up and do the same. And I think that’s what we’re seeing. The vets (like Steve Smith and Jeremy Shockey) are up to the challenge. And, as they lead alongside Cam, the rest of the team will also follow.

by NSpicer on Sep 13, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice bruce, let's make that green

rec’d

"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11

by revdwl34 on Sep 14, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is what we need

I am happy to hear people concerned about moral and things other than this player or that. Confidence in a team goes a long way, and the Panthers have a longer way to go. I feel like the only reason we dont have “cheesehead” fans or “terrible towel” fans is because of exactly what this guys says: http://bit.ly/mQBpvL
Thank you Bruce, this is the
direction we need to go!
GO PANTHERS!

by CarolinaGirl on Sep 14, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way I am still chuckling over Cam making Washington wet his pants.

That interception is was worth it just to see a big bad linebacker cringe and fall backwards at the site of our QB coming in to take his head off. Anyone know how to make a couple second clip out of that. I would love to have it as a permanent part of my signature.

I like collard greens.

by Bruce Guild on Sep 13, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

that woulda been a killer highlight reel play

Newton throws an int – only to force fumble and recover it. Play to win, no playing Brady Cakes in the backfield son.

by ppalm on Sep 14, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Somehow, I missed that play

Anyone know where I can see a replay of it?

I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus

(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")

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by The Duke Dude on Sep 14, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

winning the 3 phases

Offensively I felt that the O-line was putrid ! They were unable to get a push of the ball and open up the running lanes. Some of that I feel falls on D-Will. He ran half heartedly much of the game and when they inserted Stewart he was able to make some good of the situation. The penalties while are going to occur were rediculous. Whartons and Otah did not seem to have their heads in the game and Wharton spent alot of the time on his face, hince 6 sacks. Defensively, I felt we did a decent job in the secondary although we did have some blown assignments but, Early Doucets TD I believe falls on McDermotts shoulders. They stacked the box and Kolb made them pay with A nice hot route call. Up the middle we were not able to get alot of pressure on Kolb but, held our own once we got Wells under control after the first quarter. I was impressed with Gamble aka.“Toast”. I felt he did a suprisingly good job with Fitzgerald. Special Teams were the big losers sunday with stupid penalties and not wrapping up on tackles leading to Peterson scoring. Overall I was impressed with the game and was glad to see Smitty back in full effect. I believe this will be a much different season but, still a 6-7 win team due to strength of schedule.

by camshaft26 on Sep 13, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

If the O-Line was putrid in this game, then they were (insert derogatory descriptive word here) for several games to start last year.

The talent is there for us to run the ball, UNLESS, the box is stacked. Any team can stop the run, but then you may get a rookie QB in his first start throwing for 400+ yards. When we that can prove we can win without running; that’s when the running game will take off.

So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.

by Rick Bates on Sep 13, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

O line was bad, I agree

Gross didnt look up to par either, AZ was getting way too much penetration and there were way too many stupid penalties on that line.

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by manu4t on Sep 13, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a REALLY good read!

Sir, you inspire me to write again. Well done, and quite on point. Rec’d.

by epique11 on Sep 13, 2011 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice summative assesment Neil, and thanks Jaxon for drawing us to its attention.

The worst aspect of the Jeff King touchdown in my perspective, was not the fact that he made the touchdown but rather the fact that Jon Beason went down on that same play. I know that the significance of the reference provided in this piece was not to emphasize that fact but I just wanted to share that thought.

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by Efury on Sep 13, 2011 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Well done

Well written and insightful. Look forward to getting more of your 2 cents worth.

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by Blkcat89 on Sep 13, 2011 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

We should just give him authorship anyway. Haha.

Neil, I think to say that you highly underestimate your own talent for writing is the understatement of the century. You’re really good at writing and you could be a talented journalist even if you tied one half of your brain tied behind your back. It’s quite fun to read your two cents. I fear the day you give us the entire dollar is the day that the internet explodes.

The awesome would be too great.

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Sep 14, 2011 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I always thought while I was on the Inside the Panthers blog, back when it was infinate comments and more of a forum instead of the crappy 25 post cap we have now.

N-Spicer = Light side

P….Pro….he who shall not be named = Dark Side

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Sep 14, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lollllll!

I can’t help but die laughing. That’s literally what appeared in my mind at the time of laughing. Much recs!

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Sep 14, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

At the time of my writing it I meant! Lol

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Sep 14, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

kudos to neil for keeping family first

but keep those two cents comin when u can : )

"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11

by revdwl34 on Sep 14, 2011 2:49 AM EDT reply actions  

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