Newton Dazzles in Opening Loss to Cardinals 28-21
by Jaxon on Sep 11, 2011 7:40 PM EDT
in Panthers Game Recaps
Email
PrintFor all the Cam Newton detractors out there Panther fans have one thing to say: Suck it! Yes the Panthers did lose to the Cardinals on a late punt return by Patrick Peterson but outside of that the Panthers were oh-so-close to starting the season with a win.
Newton sets the rookie record for passing yards in their NFL debut. That's right, you are reading this correctly:
24 for 37 for 422 yards, 2 TDs, INT one TD rushing.
That's a staggering 17.6 yds per catch average. It's a bummer the Panthers lost this game but there is plenty to be happy about.
Here are my quick hits:
- Cam Newton - encore mention on the awesome debut!
- WR Steve Smith is back in a big way: 8 rec for 178 yards and 2 TDs, a 22 yard per catch average
- CB Chris Gamble held Cardinals WR Larry Fitzgerald to 3 catches for 62 yards and no TDs
- TE Greg Olsen took a little while to get going but finished with 4 receptions for 78 yards
More after the jump...
- WR Brandon LaFell also had 4 receptions for 70 yards with a couple key 3rd down catches
- LB Dan Conner filled in for the injured Jon Beason and finished to lead the Panthers with 5 tackles
- DE Greg hardy had 4 tackles, a sack and a forced fumble the Panthers almost came up with
There is plenty to fault in the this game for the Panthers but we will save that for another time. I would do a poll for Panther player of the game but why bother? Who else would it be but Cam Newton?
438 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Other than Cam Newton, the biggest shocks of the game were
Brandon LaFell and Chris Gamble both looking good out there.
The proverbial ball didn’t bounce our way today… but we should all be very excited, because it will, and sooner than I ever expected.
GO PANTHERS.
This comment section has officially been Tater'd.
I disagree that we were unlucky.
The punt return was bad coverage by the kicking team – they assumed he was going to let the ball go/fair catch it.
Also there was the blown coverage on the King TD and the missed tackle on the other TD (whoever that was – Ducette? Or however you spell it).
Certainly problems that are eminently fixable, but nethertheless the reason we lost.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I think its spelt douchette. Lol
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 12, 2011 5:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just too bad our next game is against Green Bay
I was really hoping that we could take this game, so that we’d be a game up on the NFC South. That way after we lost next week, we’d still be tied for 1st.
STEVE SMITH!
Curiously, we could still be tied for 1st, even if we lose.
Our division foes have no locks, eithe.
The Saints host the Bears, who looked like they could play against anybody, after manhandling the highly-regarded Falcons.
Tampa Bay has to go to Minnesota, and the Bucs looked horrible, vs the Lions.
Atlanta is still wondering what hit them, and now they have to host the Eagles.
Anything can happen in this league.
I think Tampa Bay could handle Minnesota.
I’m not a fan of the Bears this season, but I definitely could be proven wrong for sure this week, as if last week wasn’t very convincing. Atlanta/Philadelphia is a tossup for sure, I give the edge to the Iggles for now. The fan in me says an upset against Green Bay is certainly possible (look at what we did in ‘95), but I certainly don’t hold any serious hope that it will be anything more than close.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Would have liked a win
but things are still looking good. I thought we had it but no go. very promising future ahead. While Cam did do great I don’t think he is a automatic Player of the game. You gotta throw Smith in that hat. If the year continues like this then i could see Newton with ROY and Smith with comeback player of the year.
Smith had a great game, but Newton broke one of Manning’s records while becoming the first rookie QB to ever open with a 400 yard game (422)…accounted for all 3 of the teams’ TDs…with virtually no running game…on the road. So yes, he would be the automatic player of the game.
by LuvMeSomePanthers! on Sep 11, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, with barely an offseason to practice with the team to….just saying =).
by LuvMeSomePanthers! on Sep 11, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
acturally he tied for the most yards in a game by a rookie
Matt Stafford had 422 yards passing as well with 5TD his rookie year….. but that was in week 8 of the season lol…
Newton did it in his first game….impressive
But Stafford did it with
a dislocated shoulder :)
Nothing against Cam though. Hope he breaks that record when we play a sorry team.
by CamNewtonSBMVP on Sep 13, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
And...
Peyton Manning went 21-37, 302 yds, 1 TD, 3 INT at home with OTAs and mini-camp
Cam Newton went 24-37, 422 yds, 3 TD, 1 INT on the road without OTAs or mini-camp
Stafford threw for 422 yds in WEEK 10.
Cam just blew up the record books.
"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson
Oh c'mon... Newton had a record setting day
Cam set a rookie record, and will likely have more yards then any QB in the league today. Smith’s day was great, but doesn’t compare.
STEVE SMITH!
Exactly
There is no comparison; Cam eviscerated Peyton Manning’s rookie debut record.
He took it to a new level out there. Smith played well; Cam was spectacular.
"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson
Cam is special
He completely blew me away. We have our franchise QB folks.
"Excuses are a disease." -Cam Newton
This may be premature and stupid too
But thank you Troll/Neckbeard for staying. Seriously.
"Excuses are a disease." -Cam Newton
by Smitty89 on Sep 11, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
This!
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")
Jerry Richardson: "Bitch slapping the NFL one signing at a time" - MMA_Pitbull
by The Duke Dude on Sep 11, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Cam spread the ball around really well
Maybe LaFell can thrive as a #2 in an offense with multiple receiving options.
STEVE SMITH!
+1
I was just thinking the same thing. At least Clowney played hard.
I was really upset at Nanee for not fighting for one of those last few balls that Cam threw.
I think Dick was covering him, and (as usual) was not even looking for the ball. Could’ve easily been a pass interference call if Legadon’t would have just FOUGHT for the catch instead of just giving up on the route. So terribly sad.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
What a game
I thought we were gonna have a win but now we all can see that they chose correctly in April.
"Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental." -Doug Plank
by Imisshooooooooov on Sep 11, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
Oh and 313
fuck neckbeard
"Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental." -Doug Plank
by Imisshooooooooov on Sep 11, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
Not THAT concerned
But concerned.
The game plan was clearly to throw becuase AZ was looking for lots and lots of running.
I feel like we should have ran the ball in a lot more situations than we did.
This comment section has officially been Tater'd.
I'm thinking
somewhat pessimistic
"Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental." -Doug Plank
by Imisshooooooooov on Sep 11, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm more concerned about our O-line
Cam had to move around a lot to make plays, and they constantly had to use 2 TE’s for max protection and have Stewart block as well. With the O-line needing so much help, it’s no wonder Double Trouble couldn’t run the ball.
STEVE SMITH!
Oh I think it was way worse than just bad
It was horrible. There’s no excuse for allowing that much pressure. Hope BAMF fixes that.
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")
Jerry Richardson: "Bitch slapping the NFL one signing at a time" - MMA_Pitbull
by The Duke Dude on Sep 11, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Expectations...
AZ was consistently stacking the box and blitzing like crazy. Of course we’re going to be in max protect. We would be retarded not to. There were very few busted blitz pickups and the OL held together long enough to give Cam a chance to make big plays. What more can you ask of an OL against a blitz happy defense?
When the other team brings the house, it is the job of the QB and WRs to make something happen quickly. They did just that and we made them pay.
They stopped blitzing after Smith's 1st TD
Because it wasn’t working. So they started dropping everybody back in coverage to make sure are receivers were locked up. They didn’t blitz much the rest of the game until they took the lead in the 4th.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Sep 11, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don;t think that is correct… the cards were blitzing almost all of the game. Every time Cam got pressured or sacked was when the blitzed.
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
Purely a guess having watched the game
It looked to me like the Cards blitzed about 80% of the time.
Even the replays showed all our WR's and TE's multi-covered
Maybe they blitzed one or two guys, but far from a stacked box.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Sep 11, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I will rewatch the game
My recollection is that although they blitzed less, they were still bringing plenty of heat. I’ll take a second look though. I could be mistaken and caught up in the moment.
We did not stop blitzing.
You guys were eating up our terrible Zone blitz coverage. When we were in Man coverage our rookie corners could not cover Steve Smith. Adrian Wilson only can do so much and Kerry Rhodes was not helping much over the top becouse he spent too much time peeking into your back field.
I hope Cam becomes a Pro-Bowl QB. and it was not becouse of our terrible secondary. I thought we were going to lose, but you threw the ball to the one spot we were kicking ass all game. You should have threw it to who ever was on Kerry Rhodes side of the field. Dont get me wrong, Rhodes was one of the few bright spots last year, but he was looking for the big hit today and that put him outta position too many times. You guys got picked twice over the middle and our LB’s had been playing well all game. 3 of our lb’s are old, but they were all on winning SuperBowl teams(Rams & Steelers) Glad you didnt pick on our rookies corners that last play.
Nice start
Who would have thought the would have the leading passer, leading receiver, and leader (tied) in touchdowns in the NFL after one game?
What a heartbreaker....
Really upset about the loss, but at the same time SUPER excited about Cam! Smitty was abck to 2005 form out there and burned Peterson all day long. Upset but still a great game, we have a lot to be excited about in this loss.
Exciting game
All of us were really frustrated at RotB, and I was impressed by Newton. I saw a lot of plays where the Defense just left people wide open (Smith’s first TD) but Cam showed better accuracy than I have seen from him in the Preseason.
Good game Panthers fans.
Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan
Phoenix Suns, Arizona Diamondbacks, Phoenix Coyotes, Arizona Rattlers fan
[I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
Leading the NFL in swagtangibles
Wow guys
I am pumped! guys i honestly think the NFC south is up for grabs, I predict Falcons will lose to philly next week and we will be tied 0-2. This team looked like our 2008 Panthers! Cam is a monster! Dude was playing like Peyton Manning out there. If we stay healthy and keep playing like this i say we make a playoff run. Cam had what, like a 150 QB rating?
by NewtoniumPanthers57 on Sep 11, 2011 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
That's ridiculous
He played way better than Manning did as a rookie.
;o)
This comment section has officially been Tater'd.
145.4 QB rating
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Im sorry, but where did you get that number?
ESPN said 110.4
Kolb had 130.
We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time. ~ Vince Lombardi
by ThePanthers! on Sep 11, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn leave it to Yahoo Sports to lie to me.
You’re right man, I got that off the stat tracker. Sorry everybody :/
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He was at 151+ at the half, but the INT knocked his rating down a lot.
Big deal. I know HE doesn’t give a damn about it, so why should we?
It sure is... no NFC South team won... correct?
I know we had an easier first game… but it is wide open.
Especially in that division
Lopez: "I'll stop being lazy and go after every rebound"
Cat Scratch Reader -
Where Becoming Great is More like Collard Greens!
Can we say a big thanks to Mike Shula for getting Cam ready? And even Chris Weinke for helping him out.
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
I'll sign it. Can we put the Weinke dog on it? lol
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It's about time Weinke did something for this team
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Sep 11, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+422
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")
Jerry Richardson: "Bitch slapping the NFL one signing at a time" - MMA_Pitbull
by The Duke Dude on Sep 11, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm for re-naming Weinke (the dog) to Lucky. Do Not Want
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
It gives me chills to think about how little prep time he got too… moreover its the speed that he learns and improves week to week which is stunning
by James Dator on Sep 11, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He has shown clear improvements every time he steped on the field.
And really, when he was drafted people weren’t sure he should even play this season. Looking this good in week one just blew me away.
Due to the little prep time, most of this was probably instinct
Imagine once he’s well familiar with defensive schemes.
STEVE SMITH!
Though Green Bay will be better prepared for him
The Cardinals didn’t have much to work with. Not to take anything away from him, but he should take a big step back next week.
STEVE SMITH!
We were looking for the run too much.
Thats why Smith was getting man coverage in the begining of the game. We had two rookies starting at corner and should have spent more time in Zone coverage during the pre-season. So when smith started burning our rookies and we saw you were not trying to run over us, we switched to zone and Kerry Rhodes was out of position and the rookies were not dilled enough, so that was not working well. It looked like we had guys all over your recivers, but it was on blown coverages and Wilson was the only back doing what he was suppose to do. Our LB’s & Line is what kept us in the game. Your OL started 2 rookies at guard? I couldnt tell. That was what was being posted on AZ site.
Glad we won, I realy thought you were gonna throw it to the corner on a fade over SS Rhodes. You had it open the last two plays, becouse he was looking into your backfield first then covering up top.
Green Bay's defense is vulnerable. They pretty much sucked at home against NO.
It’s their offense that’s scary
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Cam leading passer in NFL?
The NFL webpage hasn’t been completely updated from the 4pm games yet, but his 422 yards exceeds Drew Brees 419 from Thursday
Stop the Blitz
The Panthers are not ready to blitz…. yet.
How my heart wishes that the Defense had won the game for Cam. I tip my hat to you Cam.
You have proved all your detractors wrong…some on this very forum.
Here’s to many more wonderful 300+ yd games and some FANTASTIC VICTORIES.
"Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a good carpenter to build one"
What you saw was a good Arizona play call to exploit our blitz
I hope our new coaches can learn from that and teach our offense how to exploit the other teams blitzes better.
Any word on Beast?!
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
Ahhhh I'm scared for tomorrow.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
We lost this game on disclipline. Rivera is going to rip some ass this week
Penalties killed us all game. We woulda had 35 points at the end of the game easy if we didn’t stall four drives with stupid mental errors. Same thing on defense and special teams. Poor tackling and penalties are going to make Rivera a very angry man.
I think it's to be expected
I doubt he’ll be too hard on them, because it wasn’t from a lack of effort… They just need time to gel.
STEVE SMITH!
I wonder
Just how good can Newton get. It’s going to be fun watching his development.
by Cwilly1 on Sep 11, 2011 7:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Don't hold your breath
I haven’t seen ANY credit given yet, and I’m watching 2 recap shows at a time
Cam is the real deal.
His play exceeded even my wildest, most optimistic expectations. Best debut by a rookie QB ever, by far! Not only statistically, but the fact that he only had, what, 5 or 6 weeks to prepare. Special teams played like ass. We had no discipline, Rivera will and should be pissed as hell. Cannot wait to hear what defensive tackle we pick up Tuesday, although the interior of the line played far better after halftime. Gamble played terrifically, IMO. Poorly timed blitzes, blown coverage, penalties and special teams did us in today.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
Richardson's about to rake in the dough on Newton Jersey sales
NFLN is still drooling over him. They barely even mentioned the fact that Arizona won.
STEVE SMITH!
I was in the mall the other day and every sports outfitter place was either sold out or had only a couple Cam jerseys left
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
finally i have a signal
california panther checking in from the cards redzone section….man what a game…cam looks amazing…..steve looks young again……just a handful of plays from a w
by CaliforniaPanther on Sep 11, 2011 8:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Joe Namath....ENOUGH SAID
More importantly than the stats was the WAY Cam Newton played. With the exception of his TD celebration (can’t blame him), he was terrific.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
He took command of this offense and looked like a 6 year vet out there. So damned impressive…
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
he had a better game in his debut then some QB’s have in their career
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
No...the most he ever threw for was 365
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
hardy was getting some pressure today
we going be good this year
Based on my highly unscientific eyeball analysis...
Hardy looks like he’s playing faster this season, and he seems better against the run.
"One play can win a game, but one play cannot lose a game." - Coach Peterson, Boise St.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
by jamiedk on Sep 12, 2011 12:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I only saw him bit inside once
and the LB’s were flowing over the top so that mitigated the gain quite a bit.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody say something about a "scam"?!
I hope all the haters are feeling stupid about now. Even the Johnny-come-latelys that begrudgingly “warmed up” to Cam. I was pulling for Cam to come to CAR before he won the National Championship. Glad to see the higher ups had some common sense as well. All you Andrew Luck lovers, go somewhere else please.
just wow
Well worth staying up for! I know we lost but I haven’t felt this good about the panthers for a long time. Yes there were things to be concerned about (especially beast) but just the buzz this game has created is awesome!!!
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 11, 2011 8:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Arizona was overload blitzing on just about every play toward the end.
The line had no chance, but soon Cam will be able to recognize and counter that.
That was weird
I thought the bigger problem was gonna be on the D line, but they came together and played tough after a slow start. The O line, looked pitiful at times.
Cam got the Best In Class ‘award’ by the Bradshaw crew on Fox… by ANY player, not just rookies. Then Bradshaw says he doesn’t take anything back on what he about Cam in the pregame…. what a douche
what a prick...I did your hear what he said on the pregame show?
This douche bag said that all the other QBs taken after Cam were way ahead of him in QB play, that he wouldn’t have taken him that high, and that he was not a Cam supporter. What a fucking stupid ass prick.
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
Cam's the real deal!!!!
If he doesn’t get to hard on himself from the loss and the coaches keep coaching him up and with more time to grow the sky is the limit. It is just so amazing with 5 weeks of game play how much he is growing so fast. I mean the real bullets were flying today with schemes and what not and he looked so poised out there, like he knows he belongs and that he want’s to be the leader this team needs.
Very happy
Man can you ask for anything more from your qb? I do have a question though, what did you all feel about Nanee? I was almost shocked that he could go up to 6 seconds before even looking at his QB. He had Severn chances to make big catches but never got his eyes around on his QB or the ball heading his ways.
by Adam on Sep 11, 2011 8:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I seem to recall he had a couple penalties as well
LaFell outplayed him
LaFell made me eat crow today. Guy played great and was very clutch out there. Definitely deserves the start.
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
BAMF must have threatened to burn every pair of shoes LeFell owned
Brandon did good today. Naanee should be let go after not going for that catch in the end zone. I don’t want a guy like that on our team.
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
He hasn't showed a damn thing since we signed him
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
shown*
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope. He does not deserve to wear #17.
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
If you're gonna wear #17 on the Panthers you gotta have heart, and a lot of it.
He didn’t even look like he wanted to be out there today.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I was really frustrated with him.
Twice near the endzone he was thrown the ball and didn’t even jump for it. The guy shows no effort. I didn’t like him when we picked him up and i like him even less now.
On the other hand Lafell looked really good and made great catches.
I didn't either
I didn’t dislike or like the Naane pickup but I hated the Clowney cut. I’ve cried about it before, but I’m starting to think the Panthers should really consider bringing him back and throwing him out there with SuperCam. Probably won’t happen though.
How about T. Davis. I’m VERY glad he’s back and is shaking the rust off rather quickly.
by IsaidgoodDAY! on Sep 11, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
For the first time in his NFL career, he had other receivers to take pressure off him
He was pretty wide open on most of his catches.
STEVE SMITH!
You're doing a disservice to Mushin Muhammad. He was a very good receiver.
So was Proehl from the slot.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I'm pretty sure he was talking about Lafell there, not Smitty.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Indeed I was
I wonder what damage Gettis could have done today
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Sep 11, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
:drools:
would have opened up that middle for LaFell and the TE’s considerably more with both Gettis and Smith stretching the sidelines. If you notice we liked hitting the TE’s on the sidelines a lot Sunday, especially that little comeback route.
Another bonus of still having Gettis is that bum Nanee wouldn’t be on the field. >_>
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Cam was fantastic!
I think we pick up a DT or two to solidify that line, and when we do that, look out! Steve Smith abusing the next elite CB! D-Will didn’t play great, but a lot of that had to do with the non-stop blitzing. And our two DE’s played outstanding as well! If we only could have gotten that fumble early in the first, this would have been a different outcome.
With a name like Lesbian I have to be awesome!
by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 11, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions
almost the family's perfect gameday...
steelers lost, everybody else in the nfc south lost, eagles won, even the bengals won. the panthers was the only one that didn’t hold up.. :(
by Penn Panther Fan on Sep 11, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions
Eric Edholm (hate to be the bearer of bad news)
Eric Edholm
#Panthers must prepare for life without Jon Beason. Sounds like injury is bad.
Its ok
It sucks but our D still played solid after Beason left and we are deep there. Im more worried about DT and hope we sign someone good.
by NewtoniumPanthers57 on Sep 11, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
A solid big body DT would soft the blow. Connor is not Beast but he is more then worthy to fill in
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
I was scared of this
I was worried when i heard he was playing. It seamed like they were rushing it and i thought this might happen. We will hurt from leadership more than talent. At least we have a solid player in Conner
Reed:
Breaking: I’m told by a reliable source that Jon Beason’s injury is “very significant” and he will be out a lengthy period of time.
:( damn Beason...WHY DID YOU PLAY??
Panther Pride 'till I die.
by mangoes52 on Sep 11, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Even Skip Bayless giving Cam his due
Extraordinary debut for Cam. Far more accurate than was at Auburn or in preseason. Ariz kept blitzing, Cam kept killing it. Great start.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
Wow even Skip Bayless?
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Skip continued
Cam burned Patrick Peterson deep, but PPet upstaged Cam in the end with winning punt return. 2 extremely talented rookies on display here.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
He didn’t upstage Newton… idiot. He got extremely luck on that in that he didn’t get knocked down. I still don’t have a clue as to how that happened. But Cam and Smitty torched his ass all night.
He didn’t upstage him at all…
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
Our ST was sleeping, had FOUR guys around him and he didn't call for a fair catch
They clearly thought he did.
My Mom is in her mid 50’s she doesn’t even watch Football and she was like WTF they just stood there
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
who has dvr?
i could have swore Peterson signaled for a fair catch. FOX only showed replays after the catch tho…
I watched the play several times
and he didn’t call for a fair catch. It is obvious that the gunners thought he did. one ran right past him and the other stop right in front of him, then the rest of the team saw that and assumed it was a fair catch. It sucks and was a cheap play but that one was on us.
If cam would have been on the coverage team, he would have takled PP7 LOL
by bird2jasun on Sep 11, 2011 9:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Steve Smith ate some rookies for lunch period.
Then the Cards forgot how to play Zone coverage. Your line did better than your sites posts. ESPN said 4 sacks, but Porter got one that was nulled. As much as we blitzed the sacks/Ints should have been higher. We got the win, but your rookies out played ours. How many rookies were on your OL?
You should have won. You had the Fade to the corner of the end zone the last two plays of the game. For some reason our SS was slow cover over the top all day and he is a Pro-Bowler(Rhodes).
The rookies we started were at DT, not on the OL.
I really feel like we beat ourselves, but congrats on the win.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 12, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Skip said that?!
The Black Ranger says "THE MIGHTY MORPHIN CAROLINA"
by Panther down South on Sep 11, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
this is why
when you guys were on the clock I was crossing my fingers and saying “Please dont take Newton, please dont take Newton, please dont take Newton”. Obviously, Im happy with beastly Marcell Dareus but Cam Newton is going to be a star and I would have loved to have him groomed behind Ryan Fitzpatrick
The loss doesnt matter, congratulations on having a young star at QB Panthers fans, your franchise will reap the rewards for over a decade.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
Thanks man
I used to live in upstate NY and all my friends are Bills fans. They all wanted him sooo badly. But I’m sure you’ll be happy with Dareus. Congrats on the win today! Great win for the Bills. But couldn’t you have let Dwayne Bowe catch a couple more passes. Killin’ my fantasy team :P
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
appreciate it man
Im loving the Bills this year…
Thanks for the love
Nice win today for you guys, Fitzpatrick is no slouch.
"Excuses are a disease." -Cam Newton
From Person, sounds pretty bad...
Doesn’t sound good look good for LB Jon Beason. Ron Rivera said situation was ‘dire.’ But will await results of MRI on his left foot.
Dire is never a word you use unless it is obviously bad.
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
I knew it. I could feel it before the game started...(sigh)...:(
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
Off subject
Anybody got a link for the game tonight? TV is in the shop and all I have is my MAC. Can’t stay at the bar…WAY too expensive…HELP!
they believe he tore his achilles
With a name like Lesbian I have to be awesome!
by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 11, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
per steve reed
With a name like Lesbian I have to be awesome!
by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 11, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what it looked like to me
Just judging by the way he collapsed running and where he grabbed when he was on the ground. Beason should have just sat the fucking game out and came back when he was actually healthy.
Damn.....just looked back and saw the news
Connor will do great if it is that bad.
by NCBAMAFA on Sep 11, 2011 8:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I received an ESPN alert text stating that Cam's debut was best EVER (not just for a rookie).
This is the kind of record that never gets broken. EPIC.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Probably said that about Manning’s record… records like laws are meant to be broken
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
Yeah but Cam didn’t just break it he shattered it
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
Exactly...previous record holder was some guy named Otto Graham (sorry, WAY before my time) with 346 yards...
Cam put 76 yards on top of that. I’m going to go ahead and call it unbreakable.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
And Graham's record deserves an asterisk
because he played for four years in the All-America Football league before coming to the NFL. I read somewhere that today Cam tied the record for most passing yards for any rookie QB in any game with Matthew Stafford.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
As one of Cam's biggest and loudest detractors pre-draft
Let me go out and say that I am completely stunned and very pleased with the way he played today. He was pretty damn phenomenal out there in the face of some pretty constant pressure. I didn’t go into this game expecting a win, but I couldn’t be more pleased with how that has turned out.
My vote for unsung hero of the match though would be Chris Gamble. He did very well in holding Fitz to few catches and no TDs, with only 2 real exceptions that I can think of. Great game.
agree on unsung
The D line did well after the first few drives. Brandon L …..hats off. Some great catches. AE…..scared the shit out of me waiting to catch them balls, but for now I will eat crow on AE…….for now! LETS GO GET THE PACKERS!!!
by NCBAMAFA on Sep 11, 2011 8:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Word
Every time AE gets a punt I cross my fingers
by CamNewtonSBMVP on Sep 13, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Even those like me who were Pro-Cam were wrong
I saw him as an exceptional athlete, that we should take a chance on based on his rare talents. But I never once thought he could throw for 422 yards. Never thought that would ever be his game.
STEVE SMITH!
I always saw him primarily as a pocket passer w/a dangerous run capability
That said, the 422 is higher than Peyton Manning’s debut, don’t think many could have foreseen that. I certainly didn’t.
"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson
I thought he would have a strong game
I thought/think he is a very fast thinker and fair more accurate then he was given credit for in preseason. I thought we would win this game and am upset that we lost although I am happy for Cam and he did outplay my expectations as well.
Let me go ahead and second you ace.
I wanted us to draft Blaine Gabbert, or even A.J. Green. Boy was I wrong (so far). Cam exceeded my wildest expectations, midway through the second half I said to myself, “dang he’s about to go over 300 yards.” When I saw his statline at the end of the game my jaw dropped. Just think, we’re a play away from talking about Cam winning his first game instead of just his statline. I may not have been in Cam’s corner pre-draft, but after he put on the silver and black I was fully behind him, like any of our players. And I’m looking forward to the future, if today is any indication it’s going to be a bright one.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
leader
He will be missed, but that is the one area we can take that big of hit. I wish they would have set him in game 1.
by NCBAMAFA on Sep 11, 2011 8:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
it sounds like an ankle injury though...
which is unrelated
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
Tendon issues are usually due to not being in shape
which makes sense, considering Beason’s resting period for surgery. The tendons in the human body can’t withstand the strain football players put on them, and is made up for by surrounding muscles. When you get tired and your muscles give, that’s when the tears happen.
truth
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
by Tomthehomer on Sep 11, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I was really upset until about 10 minutes after Goody's missed 1st down
Then the NFLN highlights came on, and the drool dripping off of Deion Sanders lips over Cam, shook me out of the funk.
STEVE SMITH!
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
The Panthers believe LB Jon Beason has torn his Achilles, but will wait for wait for an MRI Monday to confirm, sources said..
Does anyone know if Achilles tears tend to impact players when they return?
i.e. do they players who suffer Achilles tears tend to lose speed or agility as a result?
unfortunately yes
Achilles tears are very serious and have ended/ruined careers. They rarely heal 100% and the play usually loses speed and stability. It isnt always disastrous but it’s not good. On an optimistic note it might not be a tear. A lot of times people assume the worst before it’s properly examined and the injury ends up not being that bad. He may have strained or pulled it. That happened to Pilarez. Everyone thought he tore his ACL but he only strained it.
Crap. That's what I thought but I was hoping I was wrong.
I’ll keep my fingers crossed that it isn’t a tear, but after seeing the way he went down I’m starting to move the needle to “extremely pessimistic.”
please dont be torn
That’s the kind of injury that can haunt you :(. Takes the shine off and brings a tear to my eye. Nobody dissing conner now!! Heal beast!!! HEAL!!!!
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 11, 2011 9:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Panther fans you are in for a thrilling season with Cam Newton.
NFC South better take notice. Lot of Cardinals fans were throwing in the towel halfway through the 3rd quarter because he was tearing up our defense. Hard to say I didn’t underestimate him with that performance but it seems like some folks underestimated the kid way too much. Only gripe I had with the game was some of the officiating. (The INT they took away from us and a couple other bad calls. Sure there were some going the other way too but I wasn’t looking for those.) After today I think Cam is going to get some viewing time from me on the nfl rewind just to see him play every week.
You guys played a great game.
You earned the win…best of luck to you for the rest of this season.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Congrats on the win.
There have been a helluva a lot more painful losses than this one in Carolina, and if not for losing Beason, we would’ve come out smelling like roses with this L.
Kolb looks primed to help his team make some major noise in the NFC West. Who knows; maybe we’ll see each other again this season. Stranger things have happened…
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
The roughing call was perfectly legitimate.
Marshall left his feet to hit cam. You are not allowed to leave your feet to hit a QB or receiver, its called launching and is a defenseless player penalty.
no fear
Connor will do fine. We have great depth there.
by NCBAMAFA on Sep 11, 2011 8:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Can’t wait to hear the guys on WFNZ talk about this. I know some guys like Jensen have really been hammering Cam hard and saying they don’t think he will be a NFL QB
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
yep
Mac will be gushing. The old man will be giddy
by NCBAMAFA on Sep 11, 2011 8:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Celania was giddy prior to the draft
He just might be speachless on Monday. Mac was more critical… And it’s always nice, and common to hear him eat crow.
STEVE SMITH!
I guess we will see some new names posting now.
People that bashed Cam constantly will have to make new names so they arent laughed out of the www. Not people here, I mean mostly at the C O but on nfl too.
Official member of the 2011 Panthers Mafia
Just wait till he has a bad game… they will all be back at it.
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
So next week?
Not to put a damper on things, but it was only the Cardinals. The real test will be against Green Bay.
I said earlier today i believe it was,
that even if the Panthers won, people sould say “it was only the Cardinals”.
Official member of the 2011 Panthers Mafia
Just tempering my expectations a bit
Today was a great surprise that showed a lot of promise, but the Cardinals aren’t in the same class as the Packers. I’m very concerned about our offense.
I’m concerned with the run offense. It was almost nonexistent. Hopefully they can fix this going forward.
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
I attribute that to the O-Line
There weren’t many holes for the RBs today. With Otah being out so long and Piggy just getting into the line up that was always going to be an issue.
It's already been said elsewhere...
but honestly, who’s to say that the Cards won’t be awesome this year? We have seen first hand what a competent quarterback can do for an offense. Kolb looked pretty damn competent to me.
I know I’m nuts, but I don’t sweat the Packers. They put their jerseys on one arm at a time just like our guys do. Let’s see how the “wine & cheese crowd” gets behind Cam at BoA next Sunday, and maybe we can rattle the champs a little bit. Anything is possible.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Just don't see how we can stop them on offense
That’s really my biggest concern. I’m not sure how to really evaluate our offense. Is this going to be the norm? Was it just an exceptional showing? I’m waiting to comment on that. But we do have some big holes on defense that the Packers will probably be able to exploit.
I don't think they can exploit them any more than the Cardinals did.
Green Bay is a good team but theyre just like every other nfl team, all filled with pros. I believe the Cards did just as much to the holes as any team can. But hopefully we are going to pick up some help this week from all i have read. The announcers said we are at 52 & will be getting a dt this week. If Beason goes to IR what position will we seek for his spot?
Official member of the 2011 Panthers Mafia
GB doesn't have a good OL and run game, so it'll be sorta like this week against Kolb on O
Mobile QB with good receiving weapons, where our pressure can get there and we can manage their run with our suspect run D. It’ll be up to the CBs and Safeties to win the matchup. Their defense vs. our offense will be a wildcard, depends on how well we run the ball.
Probably another DT
But that is an awesome question.
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
Fairweather fans never register on my radar, anyway.
Here today, gone tomorrow…and then back next week. Hell, there were some people already abandoning ship earlier today when we got behind after that punt return! lmao
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
too right mate
I notice oldham is being fairly quiet? Lol. Let him off tho, its half 2 in the morning here. Well worth It tho :). Take it easy fellers….. Night night
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 11, 2011 9:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
I did, was joking. Nice pick up of a point for blackburn t’other day?
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Sep 12, 2011 6:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey guys
In a way im glad Panthers lost. Here is a intresting thing I found. The only rookie QB to win a opener in the last 14 yrs was David Carr and some other QB i forgot the name of. Point is.. Vick, Manning, Stafford, Eli Manning and Bradford ALL lost a season opener. With that said, i will take a loss any day on opening day if it means our QB will be more manning and Less Carr.
by NewtoniumPanthers57 on Sep 11, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
Hey PantherTrain...
New Username? Interesting.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Maybe the other person on PantherTrain's account got his own?
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez won their first NFL starts.
I can fully understand how you couldn’t remember these two guys; it’s not like they’ve done anything noteworthy in the NFL. Also, Chris Weinke won in his debut, which along with Carr I guess would add credibility to your theory that Cam would have been in “bad company” if we won today.
Regardless, to say you’re “glad Panthers lost” is absurd. Or maybe I’m just not nearly that superstitious.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
He only looked at first overall picks
We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time. ~ Vince Lombardi
by ThePanthers! on Sep 11, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You're absolutely right.
I didn’t even notice that! In my defense, though, he only said “rookie QBs,” and made no mention of when they were selected in their respective drafts.
At any rate, good catch.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
So looking forward Jacksonville!
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
I will be at the Jacksonville game
But GB should be exciting too.
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
...
Guys here is another intresting tidbit. Out of us, the saints, bucs and falcons. We lost our game by the less amount of points by only 7. Guys i have a great feeling about this season. After next weeks loss against green bay i see a turnaround of wins coming, NFC south is up for grabs.
by NewtoniumPanthers57 on Sep 11, 2011 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
Every week the team is going to be that much more in sync with eachother.
I cant wait for next year.
Official member of the 2011 Panthers Mafia
I'm not buying this at all yet!
The Saints got beat by a VERY good, SuperBowl winning team. And everyone knows the Lions, who beat the Bucs, are seriously on the rise. We very might have gotten mutilated by those teams today.
ATL should take a step back… But they’ll still win a lot of games. We’re definitely going to make things VERY competitive. But making the playoffs is still going to be VERY tough in this division.
STEVE SMITH!
This is definitely PantherTrain.
He always did the “…” at the beginning of his posts.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Special teams looked sloppy
I saw a couple of guys run right past Peterson on that PR
Offense looked GREAT Cam and Smitty great combo and LaFell stepped up. Defense looked great Greg Hardy and CJ are a beast (LB looked great besides Beason going down :/)
by rscott94 on Sep 11, 2011 8:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
And Chris Gamble shutting down Fitzgerald… awesome
by rscott94 on Sep 11, 2011 8:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
on that TD punt return by the cards
Who was the player that totally blew that coverage? The one that ran by peterson without trying to put a hand on him?
Not sure, but he had been blocked off and lost the angle.
The lack of wrapping up the tackles is what allowed that run to go like it did.
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
From what i saw it looked like four guys had Peterson surrounded
How they managed to let him break away is beyond me.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Sep 11, 2011 8:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
idk
But if I remember right it was like two or three of them and it looked like they thought he called for a fair catch and then Senn went for a big hit instead of tackling him
by rscott94 on Sep 11, 2011 8:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It looked to me like they were expecting him to let it go & they were trying to stop the ball from making it to the endzone.
Official member of the 2011 Panthers Mafia
That would be Mike Goodson...
Mr. If I would have rolled over the defender and stretched out my arm we woulda had a 1st down and won the game.
CJ had a good game as well
The defense looked more aggressive than what I am use to seeing. Good day all around, too bad we couldn’t lock down the win.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Sep 11, 2011 8:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
We got to aggressive at times though… the TD to Doucet was an example. Guy had nobody covering him, because they blitzed to many guys. That is McDermott’s MO though, so we might have to work through that as the season goes along.
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
next week
With that start for Cam, I think the stadium will be rocking Sunday. This will be a HUGE test for the DB’S. I think we can put pressure on Their QB. Cam proved pressure will not bother him. You all know Dom Capers will dial some up! I think the teams performance gave me hope we will compete with the Super Bowl champs!
by NCBAMAFA on Sep 11, 2011 8:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Its a big test for everyone realy
Our WRs, DBs, DL, OL and ST
by rscott94 on Sep 11, 2011 8:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You gotta believe!!!!
Before this game I would have told you the only way we beat GB would be turnovers and getting them with a short field. Now…..the cats may just compete!
by NCBAMAFA on Sep 11, 2011 8:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Its always a possibility
And if we beat Greenbay… I’m happy for the rest of the season
by rscott94 on Sep 11, 2011 9:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hate to think this way...
But in watching the Sunday night game it would be scary if we kept the Everette Brown draft pick and used it on Dez Bryant
With his pre-draft issues, do you really think we would have picked him even if we didn't have Brown?
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
Blackmon
Or whatever his name is. The guy’s gonna be a monster.
by CamNewtonSBMVP on Sep 13, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I expected a draw on 3rd and 10 since the cards kept blitzing
Problem was our blockers were having trouble managing the inside blitzes so I dont think it woulda worked. There was no running space, unless we used Goodson on the outside.
Yup, and I would have given to to stewart.
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
I was expecting a run by Cam on a couple of those plays inside the 10
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Sep 11, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like to see some zone blocking for blitzes this season
If they create holes in the pocket on blitzes, Cam is going to destroy teams on the ground (like the gash against CIN). The blocking against Zona’s blitzing was not good and Cam had nowhere to go.
I'm shocked we didn't do anything other than Cam dropping back and passing
I guess he had been playing well all game to do that… But I for sure thought in 4 downs we’d mix it up a bit.
STEVE SMITH!
No, but I would have gone to one of my two Awesome TEs for the W
Instead of Nana and Goody (had a bad game all day long).
Me too or
at least roll Cam out for the option
I was rised they didn't run more screen plays.
Everyone always says thats how you stop the blitzing, & they were blitzing nearly every play of the game. At least thats what it seemed like to me.
Official member of the 2011 Panthers Mafia
Ya, they need to game plan against the blitz a little better
They did handle alot of them, but that was all Cam swimming through their defense to make the play, imo.
B4 I GO!!!!
Early morning for me. I will leave yall with this. Anyone else glad Davidson is GONE! “Don’t let the door hit cha”!
by NCBAMAFA on Sep 11, 2011 9:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just watching my points load up like mad
Have Sanchez, Greene, and Holmes all playing for me today.
Thisis the first time I've been truly excited about this team in a while
Watching Cam tonight was magical. I have no clue whatsoever where this came from, especially after his average preseason. As much as I’m excited about Cam, I’m probably more excited to see Smitty finally be able to be himself and produce as he normally does. He was AMAZING.
I liked what I saw from the defense, as well. Overall, it was shaky, but the interior DL played surprisingly well. I liked seeing them drop CJ in coverage a bit, as well. It was interesting, and nearly resulted in a pick. Greg Hardy was outstanding tonight as well. He was chasing Kolb all over the field.
I expect to see a lot of optimism and few pessimistic things (DeAngelo) tomorrow in the optimist.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Sep 11, 2011 9:03 PM EDT reply actions
I thought Cam played like he did in preseason
He just had a better supporting cast with Smitty and LaFell. As soon as we went back to Naanee, Cam started racking up the incompletions.
He was faaar more accurate today than he was at all this preseason
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I SAID
… this season was gonna be fun to watch.
Four hundred plus yards in his first game?! I have to admit I did NOT see that coming.
The Kraken looked fine with four tackles and a sack, I even think I saw him in on a fumble.
I think the personnel moves this week will be VERY entertaining.
Years from now you’ll be able to say “I saw it developing”.
he was not in, he forced the fumble.
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
by Efury on Sep 11, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
was it Bo Jackson that said Cam was Scary good
I think he summed it up nicely. Cam will be special this year.I think our potential just went up several notches
by Panthersfan1968 on Sep 11, 2011 9:07 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah... but he said he'd be faster than Vick
Cam definitely will have some big run plays this year. But today Cam was not explosive enough to escape ARZ’s defense. Vick would have made more plays with his feet.
STEVE SMITH!
+420
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
well played
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Agreed, the only thing I was somewhat disappointed in was how many times Cam went down.
I figured he’d be more explosive off of broken plays than what I saw.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Accuracy
Did anyone see any problem with Cams accuracy today , I saw a few over throws but nothing thats not in a normal game.
by Panthersfan1968 on Sep 11, 2011 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
He overthrew a few passes, but they were all to players who can make the catch
Smith had two leaping grabs and Olsen got one too. If he gets those dialed in, there will be more YAC. Guess you don’t need much YAC when you’re getting 15 YPA because of a cannon, though.
Yeah his arm strength is really really impressive, i cant think of another QB in the leaque that can do that like he does
by Panthersfan1968 on Sep 11, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else laugh when Dick Marshall screwed over the Cards?
On the last drive in the 1st half, when Arizona picked Newton but Dick got a roughing the passer call and the INT was overturned. I was laughing pretty hard.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Sep 11, 2011 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
Great game by Cam...
and most of the offense. I’m a bit surprised how average our running game looked, but I’m not too worried about that. I am a bit worried about our defense though, as the Cardinals put up 28 points on us, and should have been 35 if Beanie didn’t fumble that toss.
Before we go proclaiming ourselves playoff contenders, let’s remember this was Arizona, probably the most winnable game on our schedule. With that said, I do believe we will at least be competitive in all our games this year, which is much more than we could say about last year. And for that I’m excited! Go Panthers!
yes they went in 09 lost to the steelers 27-23
by Panthersfan1968 on Sep 11, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
After what I saw today..
I think Arizona may be in the top half of the league. I’d wager that they are most likely better than Minnesota, Indy (w/o Peyton) and Washington.
Another point in the pessimistic column for Pugh...
The guy that ran past Peterson on the PR…was Pugh
About the lines
O-Line and D-Line looked terrible. I think our O-Line will get better. Piggy is back and will take a little while to warm up and get use to the system. Otah is also back from injury and is not at his best. D-Line is a little more of a concern. The DTs looked overwhelmed and kept getting blown back. The fact that the Cards ran all over us is embarrassing. They are young and will likely improve but it’s not looking good. Hopefully we sign someone competent soon.
I dont think the D-Line is something to be concerned about
CJ and Hardy were solid at DE. While the DTs weren’t great, they played better than I expected. Keep in mind they only used three guys there today (two rookies and a second year player) so DT play should get better throughout the season. I also expect them to sign a vet DT in the next couple days, which will also help.
Maybe , maybe not…. first game ,i think they did fairly well
by Panthersfan1968 on Sep 11, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Win or lose
I just want to see effort and be entertained and I was. There was not a single give up draw play on third and long. Lots of motion. Very entertaining game. Im not gonna get into evaluating until I watch the DVR. It was fun and entertaining and that why I watch to be entertained. Winning is a bonus.
In Fantasy Football I drafted Cam...
As my backup and had him on the bench behind Phillip Rivers. FAIL!
by doug2626 on Sep 11, 2011 9:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i have him to, benched behing matt ryan
could ya learn to love me? - Old Greg
by numero uno panther on Sep 11, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
ha HA! Now you have to decide who to start going forward.
The proven guy? Or the inexperienced rookie who could excel or take a huge stop backwards.
STEVE SMITH!
Same
I started Freeman, and had Cam on the bench. I’ll probably roll with Cam for a while now…
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Sep 11, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I had the same
I’m not ready to start Cam quite yet, especially with GB next week. Still, it seems likely that Cam will be starting for me this year.
If I have Cam I'm definitely starting him against J-ville week 3.
Smith too. Look at what Kenny Britt did Sunday.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Same here on my other team, played Ryan,had Cam on the bench ..but who knew??
by Panthersfan1968 on Sep 11, 2011 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
Judging by what i saw today , Thats not a bad idea....
by Panthersfan1968 on Sep 11, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. Judging by NFLN's analysts reviews and highlights, I'm not so sure we lost.
All they talked about was how special Cam is. They barely mentioned that Arizona won and that Kolb had a great game.
STEVE SMITH!
Anyone else think should
Start Stewart? He was awesome in blitz pickup and Deangelo looked like a guy that just got his money.
They're both very slow starters early in the season.
It seems like this conversation pops up every year. Give them both a few weeks before cutting bait.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
I wouldn't worry too much
AZ schemed to take away the run by stacking the box and blitzing like crazy. It’s one of the reasons why we were so pass happy and Cam had a record setting day.
This.
We had a few nice runs wiped out by penalties.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
If your league is deep enough Im stick with DW Arizona's game plan was to stop the run cause they didnt think Cam could pass
by Panthersfan1968 on Sep 11, 2011 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
no... two different backs DW is the sneaky one minute there next gone Back and Stewart is the tank.
by Panthersfan1968 on Sep 11, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
but watching
the DVR a couple of cams deep throws would not have been possible had stewie not picked up the blitz and deangelo just looked lethargic
Stewart should be starting with Goodson as the change of pace back
And DWill’s contract should be invested in a couple D-linemen or O-linemen.
STEVE SMITH!
Not to be mean but
you fans make me sick. I’m sometimes embarrassed to be a Panthers fan, not because of the team, but because of the fans. I HATE seeing fans who dump players at the drop of a hat and praise guys with one solid performance. so 1 bad game erases 3 years of elite play? D-Will starts for a reason, he averages 5 yards per carry through out his career. If you actually watched the game you would have seen that Arizona blitzed him every time he got the ball and he never had a hole to run through. Both of Stewarts big runs were made because he had good blocking in front of him. Williams is a great RB, give him a chance and he will make plays. Don’t dump a guy who has been great for us after 1 game (especially the 1st game of the year)
Ask anyone... I've been saying this for 2 years now
Not that I’ve turned on DWill… But being stacked at RB, while extremely thin at other positions is just dumb.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Sep 11, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not a bad thing to have a bunch of good RB.
that being said i believe that we over spent on Williams. he’s getting just over 8 mill a season i think he’s worth more like 6.5-7.0 million per season
This is about a month too late.
Oh and something you’ve jammed down our throats for a few years now.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
My quick thoughts:
- Newton was awesome but scared the crap out of me with some of his throws and how he was taking forever to get rid of the ball on some plays. I loved how he utilized all of his receivers and seemed to make plays out of nothing, though. Guy is way more accurate than I thought he would be.
- Steve Smith. That is all.
- Defense was spotty and Beanie Wells had his way with us early on. May want to sign someone at DT for depth purposes because I felt that Fua and McClain were getting pounded early.
- I knew Beason’s injury was something serious when I saw it happened. Seriously bummed even though Connor did well in his place.
- Gamble played well overall but I felt that Kolb wasn’t targeting Fitzgerald as much as he should have. He was utilizing his slot guys and tight ends more.
- Pass rush looked pretty great, I thought. Johnson and Hardy were making Kolb scramble a lot and forced quite a few questionable passes.
- Are we looking to sign a fullback? I’m not 100% sure what happened to Fiametta but I saw that we were using Olsen in the backfield on a lot of plays and it seemed to really effect our running game. Stewart looked a lot better than D-Will did, in my opinion.
- That Doucet TD should have never happened. We sent at least six guys after Kolb on third down, left the slot wide open and that happens. If we kept at least one more guy back in coverage, then it’s still a tie game. That’s the one thing from the game that pissed me off.
www.shutdownline.com
good points
The one thing that pissed me off was letting PP7 return that punt for a TD. The coverage unit looked like they were lost out there.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Yeah, the punt return was awful but the Doucet TD made me want to break my TV because I knew something like that would happen when I saw how many guys we were blitzing.
www.shutdownline.com
by MyFriendCorey on Sep 11, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The one thing that pissed me off
was the Punt return. Why in the world did those gunners just run right past him. It was ridiculous.
We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time. ~ Vince Lombardi
by ThePanthers! on Sep 11, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
FB
We cut Fiametta a little while ago and claimed a FB cut by Detroit (forgot his name), but he was inactive tonight. Richie Brockel played FB in his place.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Sep 11, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting. I felt like we didn’t use him at all because I saw a lot of single-back sets and when we weren’t Olsen was in the backfield. Speaking of recently signed players I didn’t notice, was Butler active today?
www.shutdownline.com
by MyFriendCorey on Sep 11, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure
i believe he was active, but I didn’t see him on the field at all.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Sep 11, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Brockel made a couple nice blocks that I saw.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
-I will be shocked if they don’t sign a vet DT this week. We have one open roster spot right away thanks to cutting MJG, and may have another if Beast is put on IR.
-I haven’t really looked, but I’m hopeful that Kobb wasn’t targeting Fitz because Gamble was blanketing him.
- The Doucet TD was definitely blown coverage, but it still wouldn’t have been a TD if Pugh wouldn’t have taken such an incredibly bad angle. Even if he hit him but didn’t get the tackle, it might have slowed him down enough for someone else to catch up. But instead he took a terrible angle and didn’t even come close to make a tackle.
"taking forever to get rid of the ball"
It takes time in the pocket, and not being afraid to stand in there, under heavy pressure, to complete 8 passes of 20+ yds. And these weren’t embellished by YAC, either.
That’s not an average of 20, that’s 8 different completed passes of 20+ yds.
FYI, that’s 2 more than any other QB this week.
If we’re gonna play a vertical passing game, we need a strong, efficient, confident QB with a big arm. Not what we had last year, a wimp who folds like a napkin, at the slightest hint of pressure.
I'm sorry DWill fans, but DeAngelo is NOT a good receiver
He’s had questionable drops in the past. And he missed another catch-able, likely 1st down today. Goody on the other had, missed the game tying 1st down… But that was still a receiver catch. He needs to be more involved.
Also, Stewart was flat out running harder than DeAngelo. I’m sticking to my story that we should have let DWill go. Stewart running hard + Goody catching out of the backfield might very well be a better combo… And would have provided serious cash for resources elsewhere.
STEVE SMITH!
I've argued that he's not a good receiver for a while.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
He's also not the work horse type back that Stewart is
He’s a guy that makes big plays when he has a hole. But sometimes, like today, there’s just not much room to run.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Sep 11, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
As a stout DeAngelo fan
I really want to defend him, but you are right. He has great vision but sometimes, like today, there just isnt anywhere to go unless you drive right through someone. Maybe in the long run letting him go would have been better but I’m still glad we have him
I agree with you on some level
I will give you that he isn’t much of a receiver. But he is still a great RB. They didnt give him that contract for shits and giggles. He may have the best vision in the NFL, the down side is that when theres no where to go he can’t utilize that. When holes open up he will be making big time plays.
THIS.
I bet we’re glad Dan Connor is starting for us now instead of, say, Green Bay.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That's just the way the backs are.
D-Will is a more relaxed runner, he’s always looking for that cutback lane, which is why he’s such a deadly weapon. Stewart isn’t as capable of that 60 yard dagger to the defense that D-Will rips off several times a year. Give D-Will a 7, even an 8 man box, instead of the 9 and 10 he was seeing during the game, and you’ll see why we paid him to stay.
As far as receiving, idk what is going on. He hasn’t played very well as a receiver this year including preseason, but he looked decent his rookie year, and he’s the NCAA’s all time yardage leader so the talent has to be there somewhere. Rust maybe? I know the backs are a point of emphasis in a Chud offense, but we have had limited practice time.
One last thing, we had enough money to sign another vet at DT, we just chose not to. It’s also not D-Will’s fault starters at other positions got hurt. You’re not going to have top notch depth at every position coming off of a 2-14 season, that’s not realistic.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I just finished replaying(about 10 times) the 4th and 10 play...
when Arizona was off sides. Did anyone else besides me think that Olsen actually came down in bounds on his side. There was never a replay that I saw with the vantage point coming from outside the endzone(which would have been the absolute best angle), but I think it was overlooked. What do you all think?
he was out of bounds
They review every potential TD play now. They would have called the refs to officially look at it had he gotten his feet down or if it were close enough to warrant an official review.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
His feet landing in bounds had nothing to do with it. He fell on his hip.
Did you see the angle from the outside of the endzone because I sure didn’t?(I know they replay it upstairs, by the way). His hip looked in bounds to me.
by Derek Leazer on Sep 11, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought he might have been in bounds as well.
I was pretty pissed they didn’t show a replay of it on TV.
the hip doesn't count...
It’s elbows, knees, and feet that count.
Trust me, if he landed in bounds, it would have been reviewed.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
If he clearly landed in bounds...
they wouldn’t need to review it. Flawed logic. They miss calls all of the time and plays are challenged. Again, I know that plays are reviewed with 2 minutes and under only by the replay booth upstairs. I believe you when you say that hips don’t count, but that is illogical as well. An elbow or a knee isn’t any more of a body part than a hip is. Just ask Shakira.
by Derek Leazer on Sep 11, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Whether it's logical or not doesn't matter...them's the rules.
The replay officials don’t “miss calls”. They review EVERYTHING. If he landed in bounds, it would have been reviewed and the officials on the field would have been notified.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
And since they didn’t even bother to call the officials to look at it again, it’s apparent that he didn’t “clearly land in bounds”.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
If hips counted for something....
it may have been a TD. Understood and satisfield, almost.
by Derek Leazer on Sep 11, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
I hate it just as much as the next Panthers fan…but, as you said: “shit happens”.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Really?
If his hip landed first I’d think it would count?
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
You would think it would...
But it doesn’t.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Didn't Lito Sheppard get a pick against us a few years back
by landing on his hip inbounds in the endzone?
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 14, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
I would imagine that either his knee or elbow would have touched the ground as well, otherwise it wouldn’t have counted, or he didn’t land near the sideline. If you catch a ball and land on your hip in the end zone and stay in bounds the entire time, the play counts because you crossed the plane of the goal with the ball, but if you land on your hip and roll out of bounds, then it doesn’t because you were “down” out of bounds.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
So, single cheek equals live ball, double cheeks equals down inbounds... interesting distinkshun.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Another goot thing about tonight
In a way, the outcome doesn’t matter. We’re all still tied for 1st (or last, lol) in the South.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Sep 11, 2011 9:52 PM EDT reply actions
No we're a game back
Because next week is an obvious loss. And everyone in the NFC South won’t lose again!
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Sep 11, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah
Green Bay’s pretty laughable. We’ll steamroll them.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Sep 11, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
As some genius the other day said Green Bay's defense is bad
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Sep 11, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
They haven't been playing very well in 2011 so far.
Talent notwithstanding.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 12, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone in Rivera's inner circle should try and convince him to forfeit our home opener.
There’s no need in risking injury to any more players if the game is already lost before the coin toss. We can gameplan for the Jaguars for two weeks straight, which will give us a decent chance of being 1-2 at the end of week 3.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
If that the case, the RR shouldn't be the hc
forfeit the game? Na I want a coach who will have his play their with effort/pride to fight for a victory no matter who it is. Injuries can happend any given game or play, can’t escape it.
by adam carter on Sep 12, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to nit pick on the play calling at the 11 yard line...
at the end of the game(great offensive game plan overall). The last play to Goodson should have been called on first down. Imagine if we would have had the ball on the 2 yard line on 2nd down. Of course, hindsight is always 20/20.
No we wouldn’t have. We were 5 yards closer due to the offsides by Porter on 4th down. Granted a play like that would have helpful, but we wouldn’t have been on the 2 yard line.
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
Should have killed us on a fade to the corner of the end zone.
Last two plays Rhodes was not paying much attention to the out side WR that he would have to take over the top.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Cat Scratch Reader
Related FanShots on Cat Scratch Reader
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
