Panthers Fall to Steelers in Final Preseason Game 33 -17
by Jaxon on Sep 1, 2011 11:09 PM EDT
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PrintThis game had a little bit of everything, the good, the bad and the ugly. Yet the end result is I feel a little better about this team in spite of the loss.
The Good
- QB Cam Newton led the offense to a touchdown on his only drive, a drive that featured a nice mixture of running and passing culminating in a 10 yd TD pass to Jeremy Shockey
- RB Mike Goodson was very active with 7 carries for 31 yds (4.4 ypc) and 2 receptions for 39 yards including an electric screen pass for 38 yards
- WR David Clowney continues to run good routes and make plays with 2 receptions for 45 yards including a 41 yard score from Derek Anderson
- QB Derek Anderson was 11 for 19 with a TD in a little more than 2 quarters of play. He may have just jumped Clausen on the depth chart
We've got more quick hits from this game...after the jump...
The Bad (Injuries)
- RG Garry Williams went down with a broken leg and is most likely lost for the season. It goes without saying the Panthers are a mess at RG and most certainly will have to claim a player on waivers this weekend.
- QB Jimmy Clausen had a scrotal contusion (per James Dator)...lol just kidding
The Ugly
- QB Jimmy Clausen was pretty terrible going 7 for 17 for 87 yards
- The run defense was gashed early by the Steelers so we still have a need for some veteran depth up front
Now check this photo:
Caption that!!!
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Definitely
I really hope we can find a roster spot for him. He’d be a heat seeker on special teams.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
I think Clausen drilled in the final nails tonight. Just can’t see how anybody in the org can feel comfortable with him moving forward.
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To be fair, I think Anderson did as much to EARN the 2nd spot as Clausen did to lose it...
if not more so. Anderson looked really good tonight. I never like to blame quarterbacks for “tip drill” picks, but Clausen was borderline awful tonight.
God forbid Cam gets hurt or crumbles under the pressure of games that count, but if he does, I definitely want Derek out there in his place.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Derek can still be an effective QB in this league.
He’s shown that in every appearance he’s made, and his sideline camaraderie with his teammates is surprisingly (to me) goos to see.
A couple months ago, when we were all posting about who our vet backup should be, I wasn’t in favor of him, but now I’m happy with the choice.
Yeah that's what shocked me
Anderson always came off kinda… dickish… to me. From what we’ve heard about the Cardinals, that locker room was kinda toxic. It’s nice to know it didn’t follow him.
Don't want to gloat...BUT
it was nice to see him finally get some reps, and like i’ve said before, he can be a very capable back-up/starter still. Stays in the pocket, doesn’t panic, and is a very good game manager. He’s not going to be the flashy guy, but sometimes the steady hand is a winning hand!
After all that we as Panther fans had to tolerate last year, he was a model of steady.
He won’t be the template for long-term playoff teams, but appears to be good enough to win as many games he loses.
That’s probably the job description of a good backup.
Definitely agree
nice to see level headed QB play- for the most part from all 3. Clausen has shown vast improvement in that area. Cam, also has exceeded expectations in that area, no doubt. Very impressed with his poise under pressure.
Cam could get hurt but i dont see him crumbling under any pressure. He showed that last year. Wasn’t the NFL but most people couldn’t of delivered game in game out like he did under that spotlight.
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Oh I'm with ya 100%. Can't see Cam folding under any circumstance.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
There is no way Jimmy is still #2 on the depth chart
I can’t see a scenario where Cam gets hurt and Rivera decides to put Clausen in instead of Anderson. Anderson can at least step up in the pocket and doesn’t run backwards the entire game.
He takes his fetal position serious
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by John Chilton on Sep 1, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He looks like a Civil War re-enactment guy
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by manu4t on Sep 1, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
but doesn't fumble
like some of our more recent QB’s…
Get out the Trash Cans
We’re practicing some Stomp!
I don't see "2" in the picture...
oh wait, maybe he’s the butt…
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Yea. Unfortunatley for Jimmy his future isnt looking so bright. Dereck Anderson is all but certain to be our NO 2. Kind of sucks, I hoped Jimmy would show enough improvement for trade reasons bit oh well.
Cam looked very good against Steelers 1st string defense. He looked a lot more comfortable and poised in the pocket and his passes looked a lot more accurate and his mechanics showed much improvement.
I think we can put to rest the whole “Cam’s running wont translate well against NFL defenses” argument. As he proved tonight against the best defense in the NFL and last week against the bengals, his running game is more than good enough for the NFL.
by PantherTrain on Sep 1, 2011 11:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
thing about it is if you watch the Bengals and the run tonight it doesn’t really look like he is running that hard. He picks up chunks quickly. Big man big stride
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I...I agree.
With everything you said. Rec’d?
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Hahaha +1 for thag
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
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"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
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by KaiserBromley on Sep 2, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
that**
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- Ricky Bobby's Dad
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by KaiserBromley on Sep 2, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
oh
and that celebration pic of Cam and Anderson, damn! how can he jump that high? It would be embarrasing if he got injured doing that lol
by PantherTrain on Sep 1, 2011 11:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
then Clausen just gets a fist pound. Newton gets a better reaction from everybody its kinda sad.
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I think you get what you give
I think Newton is more emotionally plugged into the team then Clausen. Jimmy still looks like he’s waiting to go somewhere else. DA is clearly our #2 right now, and I feel good about that.
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Steve Reed Breaking News.....LOL
Ron Rivera names Cam Newton the team’s opening day starter.
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Response from a "fan". God some people
@carolinagrowl This coach and this qb will be a failure.A 1 year wonder is not the guy who should start. Andrew Luck here we come!!
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My god the hate is unfounded
I cant wait until I can prove my friend wrong that Cam isn’t ‘the next jamarcus russell.’
how'd you get my twitter account!?
i dedicated this signature to my dog
by scatterbrain on Sep 1, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to push whoever said that
Down a flight of stairs…Fans like this make me sad…I do not want to read the name Andrew “Neckbeard” Luck again!!!
I've used my power of deduction on why this 'fan' may be upset...
I am a sports fan. I love the Baltimore Orioles,The Carolina Panthers and the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame.
Good Catch James. Id think even ND fans would have had seen the light by now…Guess they are dumber than i thought. Look at Brady Quinn right now for the Broncos…Weis messed those kids up!
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Wow...
My neck-veins are pulsating in rage…
I don't get ND fans...
From what I’ve gathered, ND fans didn’t actually liked Clausen while he was at ND. What’s this about them liking him now? Head scratcher for sure..
I think it's this:
Notre Dame fans have developed a serious inferiority complex lately where they want desperately for rest of the college football world to believe their still an elite, top flight program when in reality they’re little more than Indiana’s basketball program at this point.
Because of this their quest for legitimacy transcends performance by the team on Saturdays as they want everything that’s touched the University to be spun into gold. So, whether they like Clausen or not they will talk him up, claim he’s the best thing etc. all in some vain attempt to make people believe they’re not a two bit program anymore.
by James Dator on Sep 2, 2011 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's not really necessary to post shit like this.
Unless you’re trying to start a riot.
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Sry i read it and it pissed me off..i wanted to share the rage lol
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Lol....
It pisses me off too. I just don’t understand these fucking people. Anyone that doesn’t think we’re better off than we were just isn’t looking.
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a lot of hate is from bitter gamecock and Bama fans that just cant move on that Cam pwnd their team. I dont watch college and i dont give a crap about college, so doesnt phase me either way. I know tons of people are college fans, but I just dont get the appeal.
I understand if you went to the school then yea pull for em. I never went to a college wo i guess thats why. Anyway, sorry for the digress.
by PantherTrain on Sep 1, 2011 11:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont watch a lot of college ball other than the occasional hot match up. Its just blow out after blow out to me.
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yes!!
lol so suprised.. I just hope he names DA our 2. I have a small football man crush on DA. Lol, ive always said DA was one of the best moves we made this season and I even said he should have started the 1st few games. Still very happy Cam is our man though.
by PantherTrain on Sep 1, 2011 11:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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but is Cam a converted muslim or something? Why does he always wear that black cap and he always wraps a towel on his head like a burka. Not saying anything wrong with it at all, just an observation i noticed.
by PantherTrain on Sep 1, 2011 11:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not that religion matters but Cam is a Christian. He thanks god for his ability in almost every interview. His dad supposedly donated the infamous Auburn money to his church.
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Thats cool also, again i dont care if he was a scientolgist aslong as he wins us games. I just noticed he seems to always had his head covered. Me personally im a Christian, but I wouldnt think any less of him no matter what religon he was.
by PantherTrain on Sep 1, 2011 11:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wave cap its called
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New Wave do-rag.
I don’t get the towel, either. Maybe it’s like a security blanket.
Although it really isn’t that bad a idea considering the side line Camera pans on him every chance they get. With the Towel they can’t see his face. He seems to TALK and Cuss A LOT. Might not want grandma to see it lol
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Speeking Of The Money, Did Anyone Else See ESPN's "Outside The Lines" Last Friday? 2 Reporters Claim To Know The Name Of The Auburn Booster That Delivered The Money
by PanthersRoar on Sep 1, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I know Sherridan got reemed by the NCCA by saying he knew the bagman. Most are likely just using it to generate interest in their columns.
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honestly
i seem to be the only person on earth who wouldnt care whatsoever if Cam took money. More power to him. Infact im glad we have such a good QB that top colleges are willing to pay 6 figures for him.
College players should get paid anyway. College ball industry make tons of money off these players and they dont get paid a dime, oh yea. " but they get a scholarship to a great school" bump that! Money talks BS walks.
Dont get me wrong, i dont think college stars should get paid millions, but 6 figures is fair. Seriously, if Cam held a press conference tomm and announced he got paid, I would just shrug my shoulders and say “so?”
by PantherTrain on Sep 2, 2011 12:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
im same boat. NCCA makes billions off these kids. Newton earned his money if he got what they say.
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i agree
I bet Auburn made about $12-15 million on the championship game, and the SEC gets a separate cut. I would pay any of you $100,000 if you can bring me tens of millions.
But what if the booster gave his dad the money, and Cam didn’t know about it (kind of impossible, but you never know), could the NCAA then say Cam should’ve been ineligible. They can ask him to give back his Heisman, but the school won’t give back the money they made. Then maybe Goodell tries to suspend him like he did Pryor….that crap makes no sense at all.
by usana_gaines on Sep 2, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, they wouldn't suspend him.
If Cam does end up being guilty and what not, it’ll be more like Reggie Bush. Bush didn’t have any problems from the NFL. Pryor only had some problems because he was already suspended and the NFL suspension helped him get into the supplemental draft.
We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time. ~ Vince Lombardi
lmao...that has NOTHING to do with religion.
You’ve never seen athletes drape towels over their head before? And a wave cap (black cap) is fairly common for black football players. My friend, you read WAY too much into things sometimes.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Clausen...
He had a chance, playing against the steelers’ 3rd stringers, to really mix up the battle for the #2 spot but instead he bellied-up and just handed it over.. It feels like the team quits playing when he gets under center, as if no one is convinced of his leadership or abilities. I feel bad for the guy
Not that Clausen did himself any favors...
but my GOD, how horrendous was that scrub center failing to clear his own legs with the shotgun snap? I couldn’t help but to laugh my ass off at that turnover. Poor Jimmeh…
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
It was sad, wasn't it?
Weren’t those 3 plays back-to-back offensive snaps? The tipped INT, the bungled non-snap, then the sack?
Ouch. Welcome to the land of the clipboard, Jimmy.
Don't you see the irony?
Even his own center didn’t want to give him the ball. Lol
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
That ...
Was the last time we will ever see Clausen @ QB for our Panthers…
I knows it's random but..........
I finally got the new madden and they captured Jimmy’s “OMG I got sacked again” face very well.
dude!
speaking of Madden im owning online with the Panthers! My online record is like 7-1 now with the panthers. Ive beat guys online that chose the Falcons, Jets and eagles. Panthers are beastly on this years madden.
by PantherTrain on Sep 1, 2011 11:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yup solid D great running game and Mobile QB. Cam is good short and deep. middle accuracy is a struggle though.
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i don't trust it
last year millions of people had their identity stolen from playing PS3 on-line.
by usana_gaines on Sep 2, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats because PlayStation online is shit. people knock Xbox but it was made by Microsoft. Internet cost lil $$$ but it never fails.
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people knock Xbox but it was made by Microsoft
So was Windows ME, Windows Vista, and the Zune. Not everything Bill Gates touches turns to gold. :-)
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Im just saying when it comes to internet i trust Xbox over PS3. i have both for what its worth. But i am also not a member of the cult that is Apple…LOL
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Neither am I…I’m a proud user of Linux.
(But I do get what you mean about using XBOX’s online service over PS3’s. I don’t use either, but it’s because I refuse to pay money to play video games online.)
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PlayStation’s is free….that should tell you how good it is lol
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Agreed...you get what you pay for.
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by Flowing Willow on Sep 3, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
That sir is your nerd card
Linux is great
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
by gdhood on Sep 2, 2011 1:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'll never get my card.
I don’t even know what Linux is (I take it that it’s an operating system) or why you’d use it.
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Two reasons:
1. It’s better than Windows.
2. It’s free.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
Fellow tux fan...
I didn’t know you were a man of impeccable taste and discernment. # tips his cap #
I can't believe you doubted me. :-)
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Linux is actually the foundation for both the Windows and MacOS operating systems
But don’t tell that to the apple cultists. Just like don’t tell them their hardware is made in the exact same factory in taiwan as PC hardware and that there is no quality difference at all.
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depends on the hands of the user
my PC is faster than any Mac I’ve yet to come across, and I built it for about 1/5 the price of an equivalent PowerMac.
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depends on the hands of the user
twss (couldn’t help it)
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
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by The Duke Dude on Sep 2, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
you can supe-up a buick
all you want to, but a ferrari it will never be…
pfft
You need to learn something about PC hardware and come back.
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^^^^^^This
tater, I guess we do see eye to eye on some things, lmao
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grant I have to get a step as i am only 5'6, lol
Yes I is Short
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that's the problem...
i work ALL DAY on PC hardware, and it’s the most frustrating, and aggravating thing I’ve ever had to do… love my MAC at home….
maybe true
but my software performs much better and faster on my mac than on the pc…
But that has nothing to do with the hardware.
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Technically it does and doesn't
The hardware can help to optimize your software and applications. What you use at work is generally very under powered and the cheapest thing a company can get away with to do the job. Now if you had a PC with the same amount of money spent on hardware, you would notice a vast difference. I have built PC gaming rigs for PC’s and trust me, they can get downright nasty performance wise.
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Actually Unix is the foundation for all
Linux is the updated GUI version also containing a command prompt. There are several flavors of Linux. But yeah Windows and Mac OSX are based off of the Unix kernel. Google is ran on Linux as are most databases and power computers. I finally got to use my degree, for the this one explanation, sad, lol.
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Extra little fact for Alac
Pointless I know, but once I get started, lmao. Linux gets it’s name from Linus Torvalds who made it. He took the original Unix kernel and modified it.
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It's amazing how it took off too...
Linus made it as a “hobby” way back when, and now Linux (Ubuntu specifically) is the 3rd most popular OS in the world. Granted it’s way behind Windoze and OSX, but still…
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I have a ubuntupc
I prefer my redhat fedora though
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I've never played around with Fedora
I honestly just started using Linux exclusively a little over a year ago. I tried OpenSUSE once because I liked the way their KDE desktop looked, but I never could figure out how to use the RPM package manager. (Perhaps you could give me pointers, lol.)
I think once my Ubuntu 10.04LTS gets to end of life I might have to give it another shot, because I absolutely despise Unity, and will have to figure something else out if I want to continue computing with a Linux system.
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the fedora core is the free download
It has the gui but you really need a good bit of command prompt to get all the juice out of it. Suse isn’t bad, I agree with you on Ubuntu, I just learned on redhat in college, so just more familiar with it.
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Very informative gd
I even took some notes. Thanks
Cool. Thanks.
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It's exactly why
Microsoft has more holes than swiss cheese. On a security note, nothing is safe. Anything, anywhere can be hacked given time.
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Side note
Xerox actually invented the GUI in Palo Alto. Steve Jobs introduced Bill Gates to them, and some of Bills people essentially reversed engineered it and took it to market as windows. Xerox also invented the mouse as well. This was back in the early 80’s. Xerox had it stored and just laying around and never took it to market because they figured it had no use. Bill Gates actually got started because Microsoft originally wrote programs for Apple.
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Thing is..
There are games we lose where I am thoroughly disgusted with the team.. This is not one of them. Besides the bed-wetting Clausen performed I’m feeling pretty optimistic about this team even after a 16 point loss.
Without Clausen we lose 23-14
So I’m not too worried
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I think we would have had a chance to win if we kept Anderson in there.
Everything turned to shite on offense (aside from a handful of run plays and screens) once Clausen trotted on the field.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Yet they had to give him his turn, to see if he had anything.
Evaluations at this time are cruel, but necessary, for QBs, just like CBs and WRs.
If you’ve got IT, it shows – if you don’t, that shows, too.
True...no biggie, though.
I’ve never lost sleep over losing preseason game #4. Then again, my name isn’t “Jimmy Clausen.”
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
It wasnt a too bad loss
Yes it was a loss but I believe we actually looked good and kept up with the Steelers for 3 1/2 quarters. Everything seemed more fluid than the past games.
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tonights loss im fine with. All i really wanted to see from tonight was Cam improvement and he delivered in spades.. Prove he can run through the best defense in the NFL? Check. Show improvement in mechanics and accuracy? check, get his first TD from the pocket and not rushing? check. Still hasnt fumbled or thrown an interception? check.
Infact, he hasnt fumbled or thrown an interception all pre season which alone speaks volumes considering hes a rookie. Also glad to see Goodson playing good and NOT fumbling!
Overall despite the loss, very optimistic after tonight’s performance.
by PantherTrain on Sep 1, 2011 11:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I look for a lot of action, picking up DL, OL, and CBs, that come available after Saturday's cuts.
Those are our glaring weaknesses.
But if those weaknesses are corrected…voila, we don’t have any!
We are sooo stocked with quality players at RB, TE, LB, S, and Kickers, we can then play with anybody.
In limited action, there were a lot of bright spots tonight: J-Stew, Otah, Hardy (these last 2 looked fine in their first appearances), Thomas Williams, Edwards (a few drops, but he’s coming along), Newton (getting better and better), Derek Anderson (makes me feel secure knowing he’s there at backup; his experience shows), Godfrey and Pugh at S, Goodson (Mr. Ball Security now), Sutton, even Vaughn, Kaiser at DE (glad to see a DE get a Sack), Shockey, Clowney great TD catch in stride, and even Corvey Irvin made a play.
Despite his QB pursuit on one late play, however, Everette Brown showed no penetration against their 3rd string blockers, and along with Norwood, has shown me nothing.
Very interesting weekend coming up, and many new faces on the roster, I hope. Big burly men, who can block and tackle, and aren’t nice or friendly.
They are talking about Tim Tebow on NFL Network and they brought up Fox and Elway. Deon said didn’t Fox stick with Delhomme? Warren Sapp said who? oh the gift that keeps on giving…Ouch! lol
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Foxy and Elway are gonna lose big together
I don’t understand how a 4-12 team hires the coach from a team that went 2-14. Raise your hand if you would’ve done it. Now there’s this big mess about Tebow because they decided to make him the starter without seeing him play, and now that they’ve seen him play, they make him 3rd string. Quinn was the 22nd pick when he was drafted, and Tebow was the 25th pick. I hope the Broncos are ready for a lot of 7-9 seasons.
by usana_gaines on Sep 2, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
People can slam Fox all they want
But, he took us to a Superbowl and is hands down the best coach we have ever had…Don’t underestimate Fox…He will have his team ready, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up with a better record than we do…He is an excellent coach.
I believe Fox WAS a very good coach…he is too stubborn in his ways. The type of conservative football he likes to play is going to be difficult to succeed in todays NFL. When it all clicks you look brilliant but more often then not your going to come up short and .500
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Lack of adaptability
If the game plan isn’t working, or the team has had injuries, he was not able to change to fit the situation.
by panthersnbraves on Sep 2, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
The new FB, Jerome Felton, looked very impressive.
Also Wallace Wright made a good case for making the roster at WR, as did David Clowney.
I’m afraid it might be too little, too late for Wallace. But, Clowney I think will make it and Felton did look impressive
I’m honestly not sure… I’m starting to wonder if they aren’t just planning to carry DeAngelo/ Stewart and Goodson with Felton at FB and Brockel as an h-back
I have always liked Sutton
Think this staff is gonna go in a different direction though…
Felton for sure - he's a consummate pro to step in as he did on short notice, and play like that.
But Brockel I don’t see any need for – can’t Hartsock fill that role?
It’d be a pity if Sutton were cut. He’s always done everything that was asked of him – and well, too. He’s hard to bring down, doesn’t fumble, gets the extra yard, disguises and runs the screen to perfection, and oh, that beautiful blitz pick-up he made tonight, which allowed the pass to Wright to be completed.
They seemed to showcase Vaughn on more reps than Sutton got, but maybe they were advertising Vaughn to the league. Sutton’s a keeper, IMO.
with our history of getting 3 RBs hurt many seasons
i hope we keep TSutt big time.
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Possability...
They have a trade lined up for Sutton… didn’t want to get him hurt before the trade was finalized??? Just postulating, no evidence or even rumors… just know we have rb depth and need OL DL and CB…
i said he was a solid player when we picked him up
Things not looking so hot for fi right now, any more news on the balmer thing?
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 2, 2011 5:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Felton really left a strong impression on me.
Fiametta should be concerned.
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The defense is still disgusting and Armanti has hands of stone
I love this team more then anything but I with the way are defense is playing unless they pick up some help on D I cannot see us winning more then 3 games this year especially with the schedule we have.
He gets open, which is admirable, and he made, I think, 3 catches, but could have had 3 more, which were thrown right to his hands.
I’m not counting the tipped ball, which was INT’d – that was well defended.
But the slant at the GL went right through his hands, and hit him in the grill.
If Goodson can cure his fumbling problem, through remedial learning, then Edwards needs to have bricks (or hatchets, or something) thrown at him, until he catches, say, 20 in a row.
Im not giving up on Armanti. WR normally break though in the 3rd year. He is a project convert. He improved greatly since last season it seems. If he does the same this season and off season. I think he can pan out. he deff has break away speed to get open. And in the NFL that cant be over looked.
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yeah i can understand the frustration i was as well and called him out a few times in the game thread. I just have to remind myself. QB convert. Kid has come a long way but i think he has a ways to go
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Armanti and Newton
Both will make some WOW plays for us this season as well as a few WTF was that plays as well…Gotta be patient. Both are still very, very raw, but with HUGE upsides…
They will probably have more chemistry than him and Smith
They will grow together
by Panther_Pride on Sep 1, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Just give Armanti time. He JUST got acclimated to the position.
He is only going to get better and I would bet, knowing his work ethic, that he will be on the Jugs machines machine incessantly like Moose was when he was here. We’ve got a young and DANGEROUS team people.
It is also very hard to convert to a new position in the NFL
He has gotten much better at returns as well and I cant wait to see some wildcat plays
i think Wildcat could be one of his brightest spots. He has rocket on him. I remember Smitty commenting on it last year
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I cant wait to see it in a game
He nailed a 65 yard TD pass in TC running the wildcat, as well as many other productive plays. Chud is clearly keeping that one OFF the game film for now. He wants to surprise someone.
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speaking of which. Rivera said the other day during the remaining practices leading up to opening day that he wants no media present covering the practices because of brand new plays and schemes they are going to be installing and he wants to take no chances.
by PantherTrain on Sep 2, 2011 12:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah a lot of the media made a stink of it but most coaches today in the NFL allow limited time for media to be present. Fox was one of few who didn’t hide anything…might be because we only used 4 plays. run run pass punt
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You are mistaken...
the Draw was Davidson/Fox ultra conservative short yardage pass play, it’s not a run…you don’t call runs on third and long- everyone knows that…sheesh…beginners…
by toonman on Sep 2, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm not giving up on him, either - just pointing out what I saw.
IMO, he’s come a long way since last year, and his will to compete, succeed, and excel, and to improve himself, are commendable.
The drops were all part of the learning process. At least, they’re calling his number, to get him the experience.
And I have a strong feeling that he’ll have some more exotic plays designed for his skills, which aren’t to be shown in pre-season games.
Yeah although this isn’t technically his rookie year the amount Fox and Co used him last year it might as well be. Live Game can not be mirrored in practice.
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This...
At least, they’re calling his number, to get him the experience.
Sadly, this is something Fox and co. did not do at all last year, effectively putting him a year behind. I think considering how little help he got from the coaching staff last year, he has improved tremendously. He is getting open better than any of our receivers right now, if he can just learn to make the tough catches, he will be golden.
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He just needs to learn to catch with his hands
And concentrate on the ball till he catches it.
by Panthster on Sep 2, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure if hatchets would be the right tool to use...
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Sharpens one's concentration, I'll say that.
(Maybe put rubber over the sharp end, how’d that be?)
That would work...
And you’re absolutely right…it will ensure that you keep your focus.
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Seriously, I think he's progressing really well.
He’s running crisp routes, which he didn’t have a clue about last year, before working with Moose. He’s getting open, where the QB can locate him. And he’s getting his hands on the ball.
Now he’s only got to improve that focus, so as to make the reception of the ball his only goal, ignoring the hit he’s about to receive.
The fact of the matter is.........
If we win 6 games this season, it’s going to be like a playoff run. Rome wasn’t built in a day. It’s not fair to expect the new staff to turn a 2 win team into a 10 win team with one draft and a few free agents. We’ll get better as the season goes on, as long as we don’t have a huge rash of injuries.
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Just to get some wins and a highlight package will be nice. Im excited to see this team grow. We are only going to get better the more exp our young guys get and more we learn this system as a whole
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Exactly man.
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We've already HAD a huge rash of injuries.
After Garry Williams goes on IR, it’ll be 7, won’t it (not including Tony Pike) – that’s a starter at WR, 2 starting OGs, and a TE who was essential on ST.
I'm talking about moving forward.
We either have already or are getting ready to address these positions. Moving forward, I think we’ll get better as the season progresses.
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Agreed. Enough already.
We HAVE to find an effective RG, and now. MacBern can’t be depended on. BTW, was he even IN the game tonight, or was he banged up?
macbern has turf toe
i dont think hes expected to be out for long
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I never saw him tonight.
I was hoping they locked him out of the stadium.
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by toonman on Sep 2, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well played.
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
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by The Duke Dude on Sep 2, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I am quite curious
As to wtf we are going to do across the middle of our D-line…Once again we got pushed around…That is bad juju…Running out of time fellas…
run defense was slightly improved
yes there was the 50 yard dwyer run. but we stopped the run on a lot more plays tonite.
im still wondering if sutton is behind vaughn on the depth chart??
give thomas williams the preseason POY for this year
looks like were stuck with macbern at RG unless we pick up a starter there
did charly martin’s penalties last week move him so far down the depth chart that he didnt even get to compete this week?
is goody ok?
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Armanti just needs to learn to catch the "tough" catches
He did drop one easy one, clearly his fault, but he needs to learn to make catches with defenders draped on him or when he needs to fight for a ball.
The slant, it was high and behind him a tad, but you gotta make that catch even if you are getting hit immediately. There is room for improvement in his game.
But this shouldn’t be all about the drops… Armanti showed he can get open and get separation. That is more than most of our receivers can do. You can tell the position is becoming more natural for him. I think the coaching staff needs to have him catch more balls in practice “under duress”. We know he can catch them wide open, now its time to work on the finer points of catching in traffic.
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yeah him getting open is deff something that separates him from everybody not named Steve Smith
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im with u tater
if u have to choose, id take AE catching 3 out of 6 per game, than LaFell getting upon once every other game
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The worst part about LaFell is all he has to do is put his body into those DBs
Like the did on that catch. If he would just start cracking some skulls out there, he would be fine. He is bigger than all those guys he went up against. Just throw a body into them and insist on making the catch.
He needs a fire lit under him and fast. He is not playing to his potential, and it worries me. We need a possession receiver who will fight.
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I sense the coaches were targeting others tonight - Edwards for experience, and Wright, Clowney, and Darvin Adams, even Jamorris Warren, to see if they had anything to offer.
It wouldn’t help evaluate which WRs to cut, if they just threw to LaFell. He’s locked into the rotation, and we’ll see that next week, I’m sure.
The fact still stands that LaFell needs to use his body more
If he would just bully some DBs (like he did in college) he would have a lot more catches and touchdowns.
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i guess the combo of never seeing him open
and being targeted so rarely by our QB’s makes you assume hes struggling with that
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Good Post
Armanti is running good routes and getting seperation well soon as he trust hes hands more he will become a solid weapon and chain mover.
Any chance...
Clausen can be cut for the Roster Spot? Why have edwards be the 3 QB..because chances are it will never get that deep..the Panthers have done it before with Delhomme and Winke going 2 deep at QB and the TE was named 3rd QB..
im not even sure you have to name a 3rd QB anymore. Id be for it but i doubt Hurney could swallow the Clausen pick yet
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Hurney, during the 4th quarter, was gushing about how professionally Clausen had "handled the situation".
Didn’t sound as if he were soured on him just yet.
But his normally pitiful performance tonight, contrasted with how efficiently Anderson went about his business, must make it difficult to keep defending. Granted, he had no passes batted won at the LOS, and there were a few drops (and the tipped INT wasn’t on him), but we still saw the TopCat lobs, the fetal sack acceptance, the overthrows, the slow decision-making. I guess there’ll still be those supporters of his who’ll say they see “improvement,” but I don’t. I’ve never seen a single sign that he could be counted upon to do anything exceptional to – oh, let’s say, win a game. He is a very pedestrian QB.
i agree JC's attitude has been very very good
but i hope that hurney is man enough to see his performance level is not good enough to make this team
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He is brady quinn 2.0. NO CLUE what Weiss did to them at ND. Both guys who ran such a NFL ready system are constantly lost. Clausen was a highly ranked prospect coming out of high school too. Kid with the Golden Arm….
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I would love
If they got rid of the FB and the 3rd sting QB position in place for people who will already on the team..Get rid of the FB for the blocking TE they picked up and get rid of 3rd string in place of Edwards
not a chance of this happening
Ae has been practising wr for the past year and felton is gonna be a good player for us. No way they drop him or jimmy
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by LimeyPanther on Sep 2, 2011 5:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Felton will be our FB until Fiametta gets well
and if he impresses in his oppty more than Tony did in the past month, he might steal his job. Jackson cut today, and Brockel will be cut Sat.
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Felton was a steal pickup.
It shows they know their rosters, and the quick cuts of Balmer and some passing LS show they face up to a bad choice quickly.
I think we’ll see some “surprises” as cuts this weekend, which will free up spots for new blood that we see set free from other teams, just as Felton was.
Felton looks like a major upgrade from Fi
I would cut Fi and keep Felton, hang onto Sutton, Clowney and cut Claussen if it makes financial sense. Replace everybody on the defensive line (lol) except hardy and cj from waiver wire (if possible). Get a couple new OL for the RG position. Pick up another cb and maybe a wr and cram the playbook into them as fast as possible. Hope it only takes a couple weeks for the newbies to learn.
by Panthster on Sep 2, 2011 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree
He did look solid and has some tough running ability. Cutting Clausen would be nice, don’t think it will happen though. I think we should at least keep Fua and McClain to see how they develop.
watching Bronco game..3&26 and they run a draw in pre season in the 4th quarter…DOWN…haha..so glad that is over with.
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Good to see some offense
It was good to see the Panthers move down the field in the first drive. Defense looked a little slack but we are missing Beason and have a fresh Hardy in there. Here’s to hoping for a couple nice free agent pickups to help a little.
Andre Gurode is suddenly looking very good
If Seattle did not lock him up, we’d better start bidding. Losing Garry Williams to fractured ankle leaves a 300 lb hole at right guard. Having Andre next to Jeff Otah would make some truck size holes on the right side. They could play together for 2-3 years while the cats bring in replacements and train them BAMF style.
If we cant get Gurode id take Leonard Davis. 6’6 355. He could make that a huge wall on that side of the ball
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Yes to this^^
We needed to get someone before this game. Now we need 2 OL, I just can’t live with Turnstile on our roster anymore.
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by Newsinz on Sep 2, 2011 12:56 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
FTW!
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
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by The Duke Dude on Sep 2, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I always cringe when I hear the phrase "curb stomp"...vicious
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All I can think of is American History X on that one
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by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 2, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Slightly off topic...
Too bad the front office did not realize the impact of the new kickoff rules, because I believe that Kasay would have been able to handle those duties IMO. Gonna be interesting to see if NO keeps 2 kickers on their roster.
Kasay isn’t a kick off guy. 5 yards doesn’t change that. Mare led the leauge and that was before the rule change
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i can understand that and the franchise players and FO loved him as well. it was a business move nothing else.
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he had a hard time getting it to the 10 even a few years ago
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A lot of what happened wasn't so much Kasay not kicking it deep enough,
he was kicking it out of bounds, which let the other team start on the 40.
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by Lesbian Montgomery on Sep 2, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
The words Kasay and kickoff always makes me a lil' sad on the inside.
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by KaiserBromley on Sep 2, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Makes me want to puke.
I’ll never totally forgive that kick.
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I'm going to have to watch this again...
I just finished watching it and came on here to see the reactions… the reaction to Clausen’s play didn’t quite match how I felt about it. I really thought drops from receivers was a pretty significant issue tonight. Receivers had plenty of chances to make plays tonight.
I’m not saying Clausen was tremendous… he was clearly outplayed by Anderson. His receiving corps didn’t do him any favors, though.
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You know the worst part about Clausen's situation
Some of the stuff that happened just wasn’t his fault. It’s like he came into the line up and the wheels fell off. His INT came off a pass that was tipped directly out of AE’s hands. His Oline was really struggling in blitz pickups. And what the hell was that botched snap about where the center snapped it into his own foot?
For that, I do feel kinda bad for the kid. We’re moving in a new direction and the only fair thing to do for him is to try and move him somewhere else after next year.
I do kinda feel bad for him
It just seems like since we drafted him, nothing really broke his way. Has he been a great QB? No. But a lot of the things he catches sh!+ for were bad luck as much as anything else.
Has he made the most of every opportunity he’s had? Mmmmm….not so much. But you kind of feel like half the time he’s lucky not to have been hit by a meteorite out on the field.
Oh, and how the fnork does the center manage to screw up the snap that badly?
I watched that deep ball to AE on my dvr about 10 times
The ball never even really touched AEs hands, the DB popped it before it even got there. Then because Clausen is cursed, it tipped back into play and was picked.
I don’t think it was anyone’s fault really. Sometimes you gotta give the defender credit for making a great play. That was absolutely a pass that Clausen should throw against single coverage.
It still wasn’t a great throw though. He wasn’t hitting anyone in stride. It was your classic jump ball gone wrong.
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If Clausen bears any small blame for that throw, it was maiking it in the first place, with the safety over the top in double coverage.
Not the ideal circumstance to be throwing to anyone but your tallest, fastest WR.
Any even then, with that coverage, a top QB wouldn’t make it.
I think you summorized AEs prob right now
He keeps waiting for the ball to fall into his cradled arms. He doesn’t attack and meet the ball which gives the dbs time to disrupt his catches.
by Panthster on Sep 2, 2011 10:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think this is fair
And im sure the coaches know what to work with him on after last night. He needs to learn to attack the ball.
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Loved Goodson running with the ball in both arms
when he felt pressure. Kid was solid last night, and shows he’s teachable.
Amen
I wonder how/why Rivera was able to teach him that so fast vs Fox?
I guess not
It’s kind of amazing though that Rivera forces him to carry around a football during practice and the next game he plays he carries the ball like it’s a gold brick. I love it.
Goodson likely tuned out while Fox was trying to "teach him."
“Mike, it’s a mind-set. Anytime you run the football, it’s going to be a very tough affair in a very hostile environment. I know you’d like to have that last fumble back , but you couldn’t change it and couldn’t erase it. It was a mistake. You’ve got to admit them and fix them and not let them happen again. A lot was made of last time. Our focus is now on this time. You have the confidence of your coaches and your team, I think that’s the key. We have a couple of guys in front of you. Those couple of guys got hurt a year ago and those couple of guys may get hurt this year. We’ve been down this road before. It was dumb luck, when you get right down to it. The defender came in here and picked up on the things that we were doing, and it’s all history from there. It’s not how big the wand is. It’s how much magic is inside, and you’ve got a lot of magic. You’re a guy that gets it done. Id be hard pressed to find a better measurement for a heart than yours. … you’ve been big for us in a lot of different spots and we’re going to need you to be that way again.”
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heh...kinda sorta
I just took a bunch of his quotes from over the years, and mashed them together.
Newton for '11 ROY!
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Well they didn't seem to make an impact
My youngest son kept hitting on my older boy who was 3 years older and twice his size. Everyday he would start hitting the older boy and the older boy would refrain from retaliating due to the size differential. After this went on for a week of me lecturing the youngest after each incident, it was clear he wasn’t getting my message. So when the younger more aggressive son started hitting the older, I told the older boy he had my full permission to defend himself. The younger son’s eyes got real big and sure enough later that day the younger son got popped by the older. It was never a problem again.
Sometimes you words just aren’t enough to teach.
You ever see the movie "The Program"
A similar situation happens with running back on the college team in the movie. He has to carry it around all over campus for weeks. Even in class people tackle him trying to steal it.
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Oh yeah
Good movie. It seems freaking ridiculous that an NFL head coach/running back coach that’s making millions of dollars didn’t think about having him do that. Of course they may have done that and Goodson just blew them off which would mean he knows Rivera will get rid of his ass if he continues with his old habits.
Stomping on his career...heh
That’s kinda how I saw it, too.
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