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Is WR passivity the Carolina Panthers biggest enemy?

Today Joe Person wrote about the decision to bring in Legedu Naanee, and how Ron Rivera is wanting to send a clear message to the WRs not named Steve Smith. For 12 months now we've seen a group of players plagued by passivity, which, if left unchecked can all too easily become apathy. One of Smitty's primary gripes during training camp last year was feeling like the other WRs didn't want it enough, and were unwilling to talk to him about honing their craft, we know the end result. Regardless of how good David Gettis and Brandon LaFell were in 2010, they could have been much better if they showed a little more aggressiveness; not on the football field, but in winning their job. 

Unfortunately, it seems history is repeating itself in this year's camp, and thankfully Ron Rivera won't let passivity slide.

More after the jump

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In speaking to Person, Rivera said the following: 

"Probably the biggest thing is we've had nobody step up other than Steve. We've got to find guys that are going to step up and challenge for the position [...] So this is an opportunity to have a guy that understands the system, knows the system, can help show the young guys how we do the system. What it takes to be a pro."

Unfortunately, it seems the coaching staff is hoping Naanee will essentially be what Steve Smith wanted to be a year ago, and in the end that had little effect. It's important not to throw the baby out with the proverbial bathwater, because there is at least one member of the WR group who has shown the drive and determination needed, and that's Armanti Edwards who has continued to show that he simply wants it more than the two more polished receivers in Gettis and LaFell. 

Rivera has singled out second-year receiver Armanti Edwards several times as one of the biggest surprises from the first week of training camp.

On the one hand it's extremely exciting to think of Armanti Edwards finally getting it, understanding how to be an NFL WR and making an impact, on the other it's very disheartening to not see players like Gettis and LaFell who are poised to breakout being held back by a lack of willpower. Obviously it's too early to make comparisons, but Dwayne Jarrett represents the result if a player never really developed the drive to be great; it's a trait far too many promising players have.

All we can hope is that the signing of Naanee lights a fire under David Gettis and Brandon LaFell, because nobody is going to truly be able to motivate them except themselves. Playing well on Sundays isn't enough, because this is the time that you earn your chances in this league.

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I saw this and was about to post a fanshot about it. This is what I envisioned when we brought in Nanee. I’m really high on LaFell and Gettis and I want to see both of them succeed. But nothing is given to anyone this year. If you want to be an NFL WR… you better get your chin strap on, go out there and take it.

So far, I’m lovin’ Ron Rivera’s uncompromising attitude.

by Fernando De La Cruz on Aug 5, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup.

BAMFs don’t take no shit.

"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!

~Reverend Brown, Coming to America

by ERL on Aug 5, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

With a name like Lesbian I have to be awesome!

by Lesbian Montgomery on Aug 5, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

The Other Guys…you could add a subject line next time Les.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

’specially for a GIF as creepy as that. lol

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by ERL on Aug 5, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like Will Ferrel to me. Not sure with the grillz in his mouth tho.

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by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 5, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Other Guys w marky mark

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by Dirty Dan on Aug 5, 2011 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Gosh

Been a while since I saw it. I wasn’t a huge fan. But it took a second viewing for me to fall in love with Stepbrothers…I suppose I should give this one another chance as well.

by pancanbra on Aug 5, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It has Eva mendes so….WIN lol

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

boooooooooobies.

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by ERL on Aug 5, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

notice how she is holding that wine cork.

I bet she also knows how to mind the stepchildren.

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by Tater596 on Aug 5, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, she does.

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by ERL on Aug 5, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

"soooo hot

Want to touch the hiney"

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by Dirty Dan on Aug 5, 2011 3:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Gotta put in the work

If something is given & not earned, how do you compete against a rival who earned their spot?

by DesertCat on Aug 5, 2011 1:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Trying to see this from another angle

There might be some concerns over the first couple of pre-season games. If LaFell,Gettis et al are struggling to come to grips with the playbook/terminology, it might get ugly on the field. The FO is probably doing whatever it can to make sure that the passing game looks at least somewhat acceptable. Given that, and the opportunity to get someone familiar with the system, the probably decided it was worth it even if he does not make the roster.

by pieterzen on Aug 5, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I know there is vet out there who had some pretty good numbers last year..He is a little long in the tooth but he is in shape….Bad reputation though….

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

TO?? (injured)

"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11

by revdwl34 on Aug 5, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot about that

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the BAMF's coaching style

You never knew where anybody stood to Fox. RivERA tells it how it is.

Gives praise where praise is due, and calls ppl out when he expects better.

I’m a fan of DG and BL but they better get their shit together seeing as how they’ve been put on notice.

by Swamp Panther on Aug 5, 2011 1:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

If this does not send notice I do not know what will.

  I had thought the praiseing of Edwards was a bow shot at Gettis and Lefell but I was nto aware that they had been slacking.

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by bigred28655 on Aug 5, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that Naanee could not take their spot, but I think it has a lot to do with trying to get 2 QB’s to understand a new offense. Wouldn’t it be better if both QB’s could take reps with “the ones” With limited practice time I think you get more quality reps be bringing in some talent that is familiar with what it takes.

DO WORK PANTHERS @THEERNIEBLUNT

by ernie b on Aug 5, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

ernie

from what ive heard, both qbs are switching off with the ones. they are 1a and 1b at the moment

"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11

by revdwl34 on Aug 5, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post James

And i couldn’t agree more. I really expeted to hear a lot about Gettis and/or LaFell stepping it up a notch this year, but all the buzz is about AE. While im happy for AE, we really need one of our bigger targets, DG or BL, to show some fire and help spread te field. But instad both are sitting on te sidelines. Supa Laaaame

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by Dirty Dan on Aug 5, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

Love the praise of AE, but he probably isn’t the ideal #2 WR in this offense. We probably need someone larger that still has some speed flanking Smitty. AE would be optimal in the slot.

I understand that Gettis is injured, but it sounds really minor to me. Not sure what LaFell’s deal is, but he sat out practice last night. I think BAMF wants one of them to grab this bull by the horns, but he isn’t going to wait around forever. Nothing motivates a young player like losing their job, and if it doesnt motivate them, they shouldn’t have a job to begin with.

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by Tater596 on Aug 5, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

however, if they both have tweaked hammys

the last thing we need is them hurrying back from a hamstring to win a job, only to have them make the hammy worse and lose them for a month or two

"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11

by revdwl34 on Aug 5, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling he's dissapointed with their offseason preparation

If I recall, both Gettis and LaFell were off the field recovering from hammies. Hammies are one of the most obvious signs that a player was not in good shape coming into camp (while sometimes that’s not the case, its pretty obvious when it is). Enter Armanti, who worked his ass off all offseason and comes in lighting it up. I think it was Rivera who said in an interview that camp isn’t about conditioning, its about getting time to gel and get the kinks out of the scheme and technique.

It might not be so much that they aren’t good performers, but that they are having to get back up to speed due to poor offseason preparation, and its costing the team. BAMF aint gonna put up with no shit, son.

by ppalm on Aug 5, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

You're right on about hamstring injuries

A sore hammy is a good indication they are not in as good a shape as they should be. This is losing OTA’s and mini-camps rearing its ugly head. That is when you condition. TC is when you learn “the plan”.

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by Tater596 on Aug 5, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also while young shows where they head was at during the off season. AE came ready Smitty came ready…BL and DG not so much it seems

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I don't remember BL having as many tweets about working out as Beast did.

I think Rivera is doing the right thing here. These guys just finished their rookie year, and they had fun like guys in their 20’s who just got rich.

Was it responsible of them? No.
Will it happen again? No.
Did they learn their lesson? Oh hell yes.

This is why AE is being talked up by BAMF right now. He learned this lesson last year and didn’t forget it. These guy’s are auditioning to spend nearly every offensive down on the field lined up with one of the best WR’s ever to play the game. They cannot be out of shape or mentally sloppy. They have to be gym rats, training all the time. AE was, and now he is in good with the coach. These guys weren’t and it is going to bite them in the ass. The only thing that sucks is that it will probably wind up costing Guy, Clowney (though not if he can repeat yesterdays practice), or one of the UDFA’s a spot on the team.

Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.

by Oi2dwrld on Aug 5, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup, when both got hammys, RR concluded

they did not come to camp ready to play. it might not be that they arent practicing well or working hard in practice. but it sounds like their pre-camp prep was found to be lacking and RR called them out, and brought in Nanu Nanu

"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11

by revdwl34 on Aug 5, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO they are expendable!!

I like them too don’t get me wrong….

Things are turning around

by CaptainPanther on Aug 5, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Rivera values hard work over natural talent.

My kind of a coach!

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by BanksyNC on Aug 5, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Ohh Rivera just pulled the playa card...

  That is the one thing the players can have to respect above all else. Rivera was a player for longer then even JR was. Messed up that we have an owner and a coach with rings but the team is still looking lol.

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by bigred28655 on Aug 5, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a bad thing to have. A lot of teams in the NFL don’t have rings. At least we got guys in charge who been there. Know what it takes

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know right. Seems to me that most of the time in todays NFL the coachs with exp

good or bad as nfl players are soild coaches.

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by bigred28655 on Aug 5, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Division just keeps getting tougher and tougher
AdamSchefter: Former Bears center Olin Kruetz reached agreement with Saints.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

+CAM

I think Brees is overdue for a shoulder injury. Not that I’d wish that on anyone, but it wouldn’t hurt my feelings either.

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by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 5, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think yall might be drinking that homeraide. Saints are going to be a tough out for us this season

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"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey

by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya i think he hurting blowing sean payton…

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

hurt it*

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"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey

by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn...

“How far did Braylon Edwards fall? Deal with 49ers is 1yr, $1M, with no guarantees. Only reaches $3.5M max with 90 catches/Pro Bowl. Yikes”

by rscott94 on Aug 5, 2011 2:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That's what happens when you act like a child in a man's profession.

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by ERL on Aug 5, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

and drop TDs on the reg

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by Dirty Dan on Aug 5, 2011 2:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I still say the Panthers should bring in Jerico Cotchery

He’s a really sure handed receiver with speed. I think the Panthers reluctance to sign veteran WRs will be the downfall of the team this year. i now everyone is high on Gettis and LaFell, but honestly, they haven’t really wowed me. I hope the youngsters get their shit together, because if not, it’s going to be a long year again. Whether it’s Cam or Jimmy doesn’t matter as much as the receivers running the right routes and being where they’re supposed to be. Effort means a lot at this stage of the game.

In situations like this when things are bad, the easy thing to do is fold up the tent, just pack it up and accept it. But winners and people who are successful realize that when things get tough, it’s an opportunity to define yourself. They realize that in this moment, you can do something great. - Jon Beason

by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 5, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t call them reluctant. They tried to sign Moss. And have been linked to other vets out there

"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey

by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just listened to Steve Reed on WFNZ. Said Cotch didn’t pass his physical with the Jets one of the main reasons they cut him. Panthers were interested until they found this out…said its still possible but he has a back concern.

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"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey

by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good info

I didn’t know he failed his physical. I thought the Jets figured they were good at Wr and cut him to make cap space. my bad. i would still like to see the Panthers bring in another reliable receiver. I’m not at all confident in Gettis or LaFell yet.

In situations like this when things are bad, the easy thing to do is fold up the tent, just pack it up and accept it. But winners and people who are successful realize that when things get tough, it’s an opportunity to define yourself. They realize that in this moment, you can do something great. - Jon Beason

by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 5, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah i just learned that info as well. I thought Cotch was just a causality to Plex and Mason signing. I do know i saw on ESPN Rex and Sanchez both tried to talk him into staying. Still might not be a bad idea to give him a look if he can pass a physical

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Naanee has is a 5 year vet.

While he hasn’t been a consistent performer, he runs well and has glue for hands. If he starts as our #2 at the start of the season I would be OK with that.

Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.

by Oi2dwrld on Aug 5, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice article and exactly what was on my mind.

Like I said yesterday on a different post, I wanna hear more noise coming from Gettis and Lafell. Both of them have potential but they still have to prove themselves and step up. I love what AE is doing, working his ass off, going the extra mile, working with Moose during the off season. AE is a guy that wants it. For Lafell and Gettis to both be out with Hammy injuries during a period of time when they’re suppose to be trying to prove themselves to a new coaching staff, it just bothers me. This is a new coaching staff, everybody has a chance to prove themselves in those positions where there isn’t already a solid starter(i.e. 3rd WR, CB,Guard,) and I don’t see enough effort coming from both Gettis and Lafell. I hope that they step it up real soon and wish them both to succeed as well as AE.

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by Efury on Aug 5, 2011 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I think a lot of people before they go crucifying Gettis or Lafell too much need to think this is there 2nd season in a whole new more complicated system. WR’s normally don’t starting clicking in the NFL until year three

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Which is why I think Hurney needs to bring in a vet

Let the rooks learn in practice during the season if they need to. If you bring in vet receiver, that can catch and get separation, the Panthers will win this year. If not, they won’t.

Don’t get me wrong, I haven’t given up on BL or DG yet, but if they aren’t ready then we need to find someone who is.

In situations like this when things are bad, the easy thing to do is fold up the tent, just pack it up and accept it. But winners and people who are successful realize that when things get tough, it’s an opportunity to define yourself. They realize that in this moment, you can do something great. - Jon Beason

by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 5, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but still, neither Gettis or Lafell are definite starters and they need to do as much as they can to prove themselves.

I have yet to hear anything positive coming from the coach or other players about Gettis and Lafell. They need to show that they want it and show that they are putting in the effort in the same way that AE is doing and just like Cam Newton is doing.

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by Efury on Aug 5, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure anyone is crucifying either of them

I love them both… I especially like Gettis. I want to see them both succeed. Some strong competition should push them both even further

by Fernando De La Cruz on Aug 5, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steve Smith approves of Thor
On the day of his trade, Olsen got a ringing endorsement from Panthers wide receiver Steve Smith – even though the two had never met.

“He can play,” Smith said. "I wanted Greg five years ago. When he was coming out, I thought he was a fantastic player. I’m going to be in awe watching him play because he can play.

“He can move pretty good for a tight end. If he lost a little weight, he could probably be an outstanding wide receiver.”

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

i thought Greg olsen was great too

i thought for sure the panthers were going to pick in 07. instead we got beason (not complaining at all). but ive been waiting for olsen to really have a breakout year and hesnt been able to do it in chicago despite he being the only real recievving option. im glad that smitty is excited about this. we are going to be so dynamic this year

by pantherpride on Aug 5, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol on thor losing weight, that was funny

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by revdwl34 on Aug 5, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

So much for Floyd
Filed to ESPN: Free agent wide receiver Malcolm Floyd reached agreement with the Chargers on a two-year deal.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

For too long it's been Steve "the lone Samurai" Smith show

Hopefully someone will step up. I don’t really care who it is at this point.

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by Vagus on Aug 5, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Irvin making a comeback

http://carolinagrowl.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=963:comeback-kid-dt-corvey-irvin-fighting-his-way-out-obscurity-hoping-to-land-a-starting-gig&catid=1:articles

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Good news there

I think we would all be very pleased if Irvin could live up to that 3rd round pick we spent on him and either grab a starting or rotational role. Sounds like he worked hard, and if he turns out to be our best UT in camp… let him start. I wouldn’t mind McClain learning for a bit.

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by Tater596 on Aug 5, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya damn right.

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~Reverend Brown, Coming to America

by ERL on Aug 5, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is the type of devotion that I like to hear about.

"My last name is Rivera but I ain't related to the coach, wish I was"
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"

by Efury on Aug 5, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes a kick in the pants or out the door is all a guy needs to get his head on straight. Irvin seems focused and poised to make the most of this new opportunity. This is a new Panthers football team. Feels like a whole new organisation. Gross said he felt like he was on a different football team but he and his family didn’t have to move. Guys need to take note and bust they ass. Ron is a man who gives to those who deserve. Bust your ass and you will be rewarded.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had such high hopes for him coming out the draft.

Seeing BAMF chew him out in the TC video a few days ago was really the first I’ve heard about him in years, good or bad. Hopefully the next handful of mentions for him are positive ones.

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Aug 5, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

what video? Can you post the link?

"My last name is Rivera but I ain't related to the coach, wish I was"
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"

by Efury on Aug 5, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is who he was ripping a new one? I like it

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

this is the one. I’m unable to watch it here at work to make sure.

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Aug 5, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw

Irvin jumped offsides, which is what incurred Rivera’s wrath.

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Aug 5, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which as i touched on before... pet peeve #1 of any defensive coach

Especially as a DT who sits right over the ball.

This comment section has officially been Tater'd.

by Tater596 on Aug 5, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks, i think i already saw this one...damn BAMF was getting on his ass...but you learn from your mistakes though

"My last name is Rivera but I ain't related to the coach, wish I was"
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"

by Efury on Aug 5, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes that just what guys need.

I think that might have been one thing this team has missed for the past three or four years.

"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!

~Reverend Brown, Coming to America

by ERL on Aug 5, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

great news, go corvey

"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11

by revdwl34 on Aug 5, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Side note anybody else find it funny a Coach who hates addressing the media is stuck right in the middle of the biggest story of training camp? Oh Denver if you only knew

"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey

by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 5, 2011 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I loved Foxy...I really did.

But he’s so far off my radar now, I usually forget about him out there in Mile High land until someone brings him up on CSR. My patented “Panthers blinders” are as strong as they ever were.

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Aug 5, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i do mma : )

i think he’s making a real effort to not use IIWII as much also. the new foxy lol

"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11

by revdwl34 on Aug 5, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF are you babbling about?

Good God man.

"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!

~Reverend Brown, Coming to America

by ERL on Aug 5, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fascinating.

I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus

(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")

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by The Duke Dude on Aug 6, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was Beautiful man.

I don’t get it.

Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.

by Oi2dwrld on Aug 5, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I’m giving this a rec for epicness

by James Dator on Aug 5, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmao

Unintentional comedy GOLD.

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Aug 5, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could not aggree more but bacon does have a point.

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When I see or hear sports segments dedicated to fantasy sports I want drive a nail in my ear because it is less painful. --also me.

by bigred28655 on Aug 5, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was awesome found the quote of it.
What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
/

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by bigred28655 on Aug 5, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

lol at big red

"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11

by revdwl34 on Aug 5, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That 89 didn't do enough

didn’t set the example last year, didn’t help during the off season, didn’t put up numbers much better than those he is criticiizing – and should just hush up.

by panthersnbraves on Aug 5, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohhh...so last year was Smitty's fault?

Not Jimmy “Please God just handle the snap” Clausen? Or Jeff “draw to a F’N TE on 3rd & long” Davidson? Or losing our ROCK of an anchor at RT for the entire season? Or Mackenzy “The Turnstile” Bernadeau? Or John “I am so outta here” Fox? Or losing Williams or Davis?

It was Smith all along, huh? Even after he tried to take LaFell and Gettis under his wing last preseason, but they were not receptive and/or appreciative?

That crafty bastard.

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Aug 5, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have to watch out for the small ones.

I am a proud supporter of troll hunting---- me.
When I see or hear sports segments dedicated to fantasy sports I want drive a nail in my ear because it is less painful. --also me.

by bigred28655 on Aug 5, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I feel compelled to change my tag.

Just once; just for this special occasion.

down stir up the Fire if you don’t want get hot

by Newsinz on Aug 5, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never in a thousand years have I heard a more eloquent argument.

Truly you are a hero of our times. Rec! Rec!

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by Revshawn on Aug 5, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umm.. Yeah..

Absolutely, I couldn’t agree more, 100%. What he said… I think.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 5, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec for the "What the Heck" factors.

I am a proud supporter of troll hunting---- me.
When I see or hear sports segments dedicated to fantasy sports I want drive a nail in my ear because it is less painful. --also me.

by bigred28655 on Aug 5, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to log in and say Bravo!!!

Even though I don’t know what is being said but this post is EPIC

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by cedaghost on Aug 6, 2011 1:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

LaFell didn't wow me

last year in training camp. I didn’t think he would make the cut (and probably wouldn’t have on most teams). He eventually did show some signs of productivity during the season. He may think that is still acceptable. BAMF has other ideas. He has a shortened preseason and he wants to be wowed now.

by Mtndancer on Aug 5, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

He was not good at camp at all

Few of the WR’s were. That concerned me at the time, but it was my first camp so I let it go. It sounds like a different experience for everybody this year. Can’t wait to make it up Tuesday.

BTW, you’re right. He did get better as the season progressed. But that was last season, and BAMF doesn’t care about what you could do “last season.”

Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.

by Oi2dwrld on Aug 5, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

too early to make Dwayne Jarrett comparisons

I followed the link in the article. I never noticed this before, but his birthday is 09/11.

by criolle johnny on Aug 5, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Great post.

I really hope that Gettis and LaFell decided to bring the heat because they sure have got potential and are very promising. They are both guys that I want to see around in the future so fingers crossed that they get it in their heads that they need to step it.

Playing well on Sundays isn’t enough, because this is the time that you earn your chances in this league.

Great point, that’s exactly what they need to understand: nobody hands it to you, you have to earn it.

The original DIB

by (DIB) on Aug 5, 2011 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

amen dib. kick your shoes off and enjoy

"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11

by revdwl34 on Aug 5, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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