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CSR Blogger Reports from Panthers Training Camp

i am back at this year at training camp, and will post updates as i can throughout the evening. I'm writing this from my phone so I apologize for how this appears. Also I have my son with me so I might not be that frequent with my updates.

Here's some of tonight's highlights from Little King:

i havent been to that many evening pratices

But there are definately more people out here. Although it could be the cam affect


clausen to shocley across middle

But now no o or d lines

More after the jump...

Star-divide

deep to smith

nice placement for the TD

 

cross route by 10

1 (Newton) hits in stride

A sign from the Gods?

a chinok (sp?) just circled the field, it was low

Pretty cool,

Now Panther fan in Ga takes over:

At practice,too

Live fire starting – 11 on 11. Cam with the ones

cams 1st play a pass

Should have been picked

Clausen In...

Clausen deep to Wright

TD – got behind Munnerlyn and Godfrey, too.

Don't like how this ends:

Cam to 89 across middle

Plenty of zip – off target low. Smitty dives and comes up slowly – sort of limps off.

We got options returning punts:

starting punts and catches

Munnerlyn, Armanti and 19 (who?) catching them. Munnerlyn looks solid – Armanti almost looks non-chalant. Much better than last year at getting under the ball.

End of report

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practicing kickoffs

Currently no helments

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

thanks

we appreciate you big time

YOU CAN GET THE PAW

by the BlackPanther on Aug 3, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You Sir, are my hero!

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by The Duke Dude on Aug 3, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

ive seen

10 and 33 fielding returns

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

im sure he will get his chance again

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

did AE take many kickoffs last year?

its a whole diff animal than PR’s, way less pressure to make the catch, time to get AE up to speed

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a single kick return, if I remember correctly...

Just triple checked; noting in that stat column on sports-reference.com (I can’t recommend this site enough), NFL.com, or ESPN.com

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!

by Newsinz on Aug 3, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad i guess i was thinking Punt returns. Kick off will be limited impact this season with the rule changes. Maybe with his speed he could take out deep of the endzone and make it up i dunno. We well see

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 4, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i forgot about the 35 yard line mma

maybe when the winter winds blow in dec. and january. pigskin gets harder to kick then… i wonder why the NFL did that. sounds like less excitement to me. player safety?

by revdwl34 on Aug 4, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah long wind up on Kick Offs so they shortened the distance. New kicker we got is really good at kick offs. Big reason we got rid of Kasay. Touch backs aren’t his specialty.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 4, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

drill over, qb now on the main field

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

okay, nm, more warm ups

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i havent been to that many evening pratices

But there are definately more people out here. Although it could be the cam affect

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks LK!!

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by Jaxon on Aug 3, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks LK

Would love to be there… just a long ass drive unfortunately

by rscott94 on Aug 3, 2011 6:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

be back in a bit

Have to take a bathroom break for my son

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Then people think you're talking to yourself in the bathroom..

And that’s way weirder than just talking to yourself.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the live updates!

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by jamiedk on Aug 3, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

That's why we love ya!

Any and all updates much appreciated for those of us that cannot attend and are dying for every bit of news, such as myself.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah man much appreciated. Nice for you to take the time while your there to update us who aren’t.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

back

Lb in front of us, qbs on far field

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

next drill, horn just blew

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

clausden up, hand off to 22

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

22, short gain

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

correciont, 28

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

about to ask why Sutton was running with the 1’s.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

33, cuts back ledt big gain

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

this time goodyh stuffed at line

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

again no gain

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Would it be wrong to play “My Goodies” every time Goodson scores? Wrong impression maybe?

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

wouldn’t play that often….lol

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

cam under cnter

Hand off to 22, 1 yard

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

who’s number #46?

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

LB Thomas Williams..

Someone I’m not familiar with.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah im pretty good throwing names out with numbers but i was stumped on that one

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

there were a few more plays

Sorry I didn’t get them all. Son said he wants to leave but now he has a movie, see how long it lasts

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 6:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Side Note...
Just debated on Sportsnation should cam sit or start game 1. All three said start. Nation said 51% sit 49% start…

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah i was thinking similar…Id much rather have to worry about a traditional QB who struggled last year then the unconventional Newton.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or two, pending approval.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

clausen to shocley across middle

But now no o or d lines

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 7:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

comp to 80 again

1 now up

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 7:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

deep to smith

nice placement for the TD

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 7:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

it was a TD so i kinda figured it was 1…..

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it was Cam
Cam’s first 2 throws: 9 route to smith, TD, 7 route to Lafell, 30 yd. Loud roars from hopeful fans. #panthers

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha again

you’ll be here all week right?

STEVE SMITH!

by southtunnel on Aug 3, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

cross route by 10

1 hits in stride

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 7:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That's AE good stuff

This comment section has officially been Tater'd.

by Tater596 on Aug 3, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

1, middle to 80, comp

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 7:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

1 seems to be getting the hang of this

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by shaun_bass on Aug 3, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

who’s number 1???

by ams6378 on Aug 3, 2011 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Cam.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some guy named Cam Newton

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

How DARE you!! ;)

RABBLE RABBLE!

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by The Duke Dude on Aug 3, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heard he was a walk-on..

Not much chance of the bum makin’ the 53, I’d say.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 to 15, couldnt see if it was comp

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 7:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

finished the drill

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 7:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

good thing bout 3and 16 not able to practice

1 and 3 get more reps

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 7:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

a chinok (sp?) just circled the field, it was low

Pretty cool,

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 7:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

so it sounds to me like the #2 just starts the drills before #1 comes in,

like a warmup band plays before the concert begins, am i right??

lol lovin training cam-p

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

well, i forgot to charge my sons player

So in order to stay he’s loading up netflix on my phone.

I’ll try again tomorrow. Till later

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by LittleKing on Aug 3, 2011 7:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

BillVoth just retweeted this guy on twitter...looks like he is tweeting camp results

http://twitter.com/#!/johnellis212

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL!
Running to field, Tony Pike tripped up by tacking dummy….falls. I’m not lying. #panthers

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA
Funny to see Cam in same huddle with 89 Smith. They might be a foot difference there. #camnewton #panthers

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

At practice,too

Live fire starting – 11 on 11. Cam with the ones

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by Panther Fan in GA on Aug 3, 2011 7:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Ahh thanks man!

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice pick up!!

Preeesh!!

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by Jaxon on Aug 3, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

cams 1st play a pass

Should have been picked

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by Panther Fan in GA on Aug 3, 2011 7:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Clausen in

Completes an out to gettis

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by Panther Fan in GA on Aug 3, 2011 7:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Clausen came out to Gettis?

I knew it.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol...

Sorry for the delay. Just got back from puking.

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by ALAC on Aug 3, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clausen deep to Wright

TD – got behind Munnerlyn and Godfrey, too.

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by Panther Fan in GA on Aug 3, 2011 7:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Seriously

Nice to hear some positive things about Clausen.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better late than never though!

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm confused who he's running with

In Jimmy running with the twos but playing against the ones?

Trying to work out why Wallace Wright, Captain Munnerlyn and Charles Godfrey would be on the field at the same time

by James Dator on Aug 3, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i believe jimmy is running with

the bulls. queue matador in tights with the jimmy head

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LMAO!!

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by Jaxon on Aug 3, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s running with….

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah he’d be better had he sold his soul D-ranged lol

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clausen and Cam rotating with the ones

Personnel changing so fast hard to see the method to the madness. Saw 89 and Armati both in at same time

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by Panther Fan in GA on Aug 3, 2011 7:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ha!

He oughta be nice and shiny every game since he won’t be seeing the field.

by Swamp Panther on Aug 3, 2011 8:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ok. Good luck with that.

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by OldhamA on Aug 3, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm thinking.

WCO fits his skillset to a “t”.

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by Flowing Willow on Aug 3, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cam to 89 across middle

Plenty of zip – off target low. Smitty dives and comes up slowly – sort of limps off.

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by Panther Fan in GA on Aug 3, 2011 7:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Dammit Cam don’t injure smitty

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

RLLY?!111

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to hear...
Armanti’s been reading up on the “Parcells Way” of fielding punts. Great form. No fumbles yet. #panthers

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I watched him at 6 practices last year.

He never dropped a ball from Baker or the Juggs machine. I believe he can do it, but I’ve got to see it in a game.

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by ALAC on Aug 3, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

starting punts and catches

Munnerlyn, Armanti and 19 (who?) catching them. Munnerlyn looks solid – Armanti almost looks non-chalant. Much better than last year at getting under the ball.

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by Panther Fan in GA on Aug 3, 2011 7:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Nice to see he busted his ass in the offseason. Really seems like he came to camp with a chip. Last staff never gave him a chance. He isn’t going to let this one do the same.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of Clausen, yesterday..
Looked like Romo/Brady in pocket when under duress.

Ummmmmmmmm.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Read

But the Romo/Brady thing may be a bit out there for me.

by John Batista on Aug 3, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was a insult b/c Romo and Brady collapse under pressure but i agree i don’t think you should mention Clausen’s name in position with either men even in a negative.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Brady’s excellent in the pocket, he’s the textbook of example of keeping your eyes downfield and not on the rush. Although granted he’s not that mobile.

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by Flowing Willow on Aug 3, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brady is good in the pocket but his one knock is if you can get to him you can rattle him. At least for a little while. Example NY Giants in the super bowl

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

Rocking the boat and righting the ship! Making the moves needed...Go Panthers!!!

by UNCMattyt99 on Aug 4, 2011 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

SUPERCAM does

WHOOOSHHHHHHH, BYE!

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by revdwl34 on Aug 4, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still here

Group drills again – lull in the action. Offense working on sets and timing as a group and Defense doing the same

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by Panther Fan in GA on Aug 3, 2011 7:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Starting to rain

Sorry all – headed home to Flowery Branch.

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by Panther Fan in GA on Aug 3, 2011 7:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks dude!!!

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by The Duke Dude on Aug 3, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm having trouble with my CSR pages the past 2 days

The article will come up with a partial download, but the comments don’t come up. The processing feed says “transferring data from facebook.com” but it continues to process and never comes up.

I wouldn’t mind just redoing it. Problem is, I lose the yellows, because the page has already partially downloaded. Which is problematic on a page with alot of old/new comments.

Any thoughts?

It’s never happened until yest.

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I've had that same issue a few times before..

Not sure why, seems to happen randomly.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know this is random but...

does anybody have a address that I can put in my gps for panthers training camp? me and 3 of my friends are lookin to head down there for tomorrow practice

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by Keller Sipe on Aug 3, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

all i got is turn by turn

Fom I-85 North – Take I-85 North to exit 72 (I-585). At the end of the exit ramp, turn right toward Spartanburg. Cross over Business I-85. I-585 becomes Pine Street into Spartanburg. After crossing over Business I-85, turn right onto Twitty Street and into training camp at the second stoplight. Free parking is provided at the top of the hill on the right of Twitty Street. The practice fields are on the left, and the Panthers Experience is located between the practice fields and Gibbs Stadium.

From I-85 South – Take I-85 South to exit 72 (I-585). At the end of the exit ramp, turn left toward Spartanburg. Cross over Business I-85. I-585 becomes Pine Street into Spartanburg. After crossing over Business I-85, turn right onto Twitty Street and into training camp at the second stoplight. Free parking is provided at the top of the hill on the right of Twitty Street. The practice fields are on the left, and the Panthers Experience is located between the practice fields and Gibbs Stadium.

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright thanks alot..

are autographs impossible to get? i figured that with all the kids its hard to get em but Im bringing my smitty jersey and a sharpie just in case.

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by Keller Sipe on Aug 3, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't miss it.

Just get to Spartanburg and take the Wofford College exit.

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by ALAC on Aug 3, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...Wofford College...Spartanburg, SC

or punch in Pine ST…which is actually I-585 that branches off of I-85….585 turns into Pine

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by Jaxon on Aug 4, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Twitty Street

It’s off of Pine/I-585 … it’s where you park, etc.

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by BW Smith on Aug 4, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

the twitter has fallen very quiet the past 30 mins

dont tell me they stopped practicing for the rain? storms?

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Clausen putting heat on Newton here. Not missing any throws inside 20 yards. None. @Jonathanstewar1 running very strong #panthers

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Greco sounds like a good pick up...Newton struggling with accuracy
Goodson-Greco, part deux. Combatants in Tues fight meet again. Greco knocks Goodson down at end of run. 2 plays later, Greco picks Newton.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

From what I'm reading on twitter

Clausen is making improvements and Cam is sounding like a rookie. Clausen is 4/4 and Cam is 3/5 and forced a pass to Shockey that should’ve been picked (but it sounds like Clausen is only throwing around the 20 yard line sooo maybe that’s why he’s playing good)

by rscott94 on Aug 3, 2011 8:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah one of Clausen strengths and Cam’s weaknesses.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what i was thinking

But Clauses did throw a deep pass to Wright so who knows maybe Pickles is getting better :o

by rscott94 on Aug 3, 2011 8:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

hey im all for it. He can’t get any worse

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good

Better he is, the better we are and the higher his trade value gets.

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by ALAC on Aug 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't be surprised if Wright makes the team

The guy was doing very well for us last preseason until he got injured. I expect him to be a big competitor for the #6 spot.

by ppalm on Aug 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That spot is going to be one hell of a competition. We got a lot of WR’s loaded up

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

will depend on

if other backups also excel in ST’s. if they do, he’s still susceptible to being cut, because he’s really not needed in our passing game bar an injury or two

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

id think that would be a big claim chatoka…but if he impresses that much i can deff live with it. I want best chance to win.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont see it that way JC is doing what JC has always done. Dump it off to the closest WR before getting pancaked.

by Dcredible on Aug 3, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is 7 on 7 drills…Doubt there is much presser and zero contact. Shouldn’t be overlooked.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any word on whether the new signings will be able to practice with the team tomorrow?

by Dcredible on Aug 3, 2011 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Cam trying to block in practice wearing a Red Jersey..got to love the effort i guess lol
Newton blocks McClain on Sutton reverse-field run. Sean McDermott apparently didn’t like it. Says smthg to Cam, who’s in a no-contact jersey

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Newton then slaps hands w/ McClain.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that he's eager to play

But if you’re in a no-contact jersey then you shouldn’t be hitting people.

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by Jake Humphrey on Aug 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jimmy in rhythm
He’s thrown over 10 passes now in 7on7’s, and Clausen has yet to miss one reciever. Mostly slants, shallow X, screens though #panthers

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

The coaching staff is playing to his strengths.

I love the fact that we now have a staff that is smart enough to play to the strengths of our QBs.

by SlayerGhaleon on Aug 3, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he didn't hit these then there would be little hope for him

These are WCO type throws. Should be Jimmy’s bread and butter. Glad to hear he is doing better.

by patosan on Aug 3, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any more news on the CB front after CR is signed with the 49ers?

by Dcredible on Aug 3, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

guessing we now wait for final cuts in sept.

until then, the young guys will have plenty of time to impress and convince RR we don’t need another corner

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Practice is now over

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Clausen is throwing against

Lower name corners not trying to short the guy but Gamble is out and the best one is Captain which he did throw a touchdown on so…

by rscott94 on Aug 3, 2011 8:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

people really do need to relax and remember this is TC not preseason and not a real regular season game. Its okay to be excited but be realistic

by Dcredible on Aug 3, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where was this logic when Cam was completing some nice throws?

by SlayerGhaleon on Aug 3, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's right here... I misplaced it

Cam is also throwing against the lower name corner

by rscott94 on Aug 3, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be honest

i realy dont know. I thought Jimmy was working with the # 1 but Cam threw a touchdown to Smitty and Clausen threw a touchdown to Wright so I have no clue

by rscott94 on Aug 3, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta hand it to Joe Person

He’s really been on it as far as practice updates

by chatoka on Aug 3, 2011 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe Clausen just wasn't in the right offensive system last year

Passing to TE’s and RB’s and quick routes, was barely in Fox’s playbook. However that sounds exactly like Jimmy’s strengths. Maybe… Just maybe… Clausen might be a better fit for the offense Chud’s been installing???

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by southtunnel on Aug 3, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Wouldn’t be surprised. He excelled in the WCO in college.

by SlayerGhaleon on Aug 3, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

in chud's last interview, he made a special point of

saying they’d be implementing an offense geared to the strengths of our players, not just a Chud system

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The system relies on deep throws to open up the middle of the field

Its how the system creates mismatches on the receiving TE: Safety can’t come down and help the LBs because of the consistent threat on the deep routes.

by ppalm on Aug 3, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where did you hear there's a "consistent threat on deep routes"?

I mean, other than your own logic? Of course every team will go deep occasionally, but.all the camp reports I hear suggest that’s NOT the bread and butter of what they are implementing.

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by southtunnel on Aug 3, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see anything like that on panthers.com

Other than this… http://goo.gl/6P61c
Which he just says the offense will be aggressive and balanced… nothing like using a consistent deep threat to setup other plays.

I’m not saying you’re wrong… I just want to read about it.

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by southtunnel on Aug 4, 2011 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then google Air Coryell

I’m not here to provide a thesis on offenses that we’ve already been over, but I guess I will since people appear to be lazy and uninformed:

Per the ever famous <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/whttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coryell_offenseiki/Coryell_offense" target="new">Wikipedia:

Overall the goal of the Coryell offense is to have at least two downfield, fast wide receivers who adjust to the deep pass very well, combined with a sturdy pocket quarterback with a strong arm. The Coryell offense uses three key weapons. The first is a strong inside running game, the second is its ability to strike deep with two or more receivers on any play, and the third is to not only use those two attack in cooperation with each other, but to include a great deal of mid-range passing to a TE, WR, or back.

As someone stated in a previous thread, the term West Coast is a misnomer. It was originally used to refer to such an offense, but is now commonly linked to a spread short pass offense that dinks and dunks. When players keep saying West Coast, they are not saying we are going to be the 2010 Rams. There are two West Coast offenses, and the Coryell is the one that doesn’t follow the current nomenclature.

by ppalm on Aug 4, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you not heard all the reports that Chud is customizing the offense to fit inexperienced rookie QB's, and Cam's unique strengths?

John Fox and the days of running one system despite personel, are long gone. Is the Coryell an option offense? Nope… but guess what? It will be for us when Cam is behind center. I think you’re mistaken if you think our playbook is Coryell verbatim.

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by southtunnel on Aug 4, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

No shit

But that doesn’t mean we’re running a NO spread 80% of the time because we have Clausen as a QB, it means we’re working in a few packages for those players specialties. People are hearing the term West Coast from players descriptions and getting confused, if you read the posts in this thread you’d see that. What they fail to grasp, is in those conversations, its been followed by the word “terminology” or “numbering,” and the topic has been adjusting to the new offense. They are referring to different terminology (as different offense trees have a different basis), not what fans refer to as a West Coast Offense.

by ppalm on Aug 4, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Backup a sec... Here's all I'm saying...

I’m sure Chud would love nothing more than for Cam to be able to stand tall in the pocket and consistently deliver deep balls like Philip Rivers. But he’s not Rivers. He’s a rookie with unique running ability. Therefore, as the camp reports suggest, the bread an butter of the 2011 Panther offense will be running the ball and easy passes… Hence the signing of 2 premier TE’s.

Now, I’ll I’m saying is that maybe Clausen is better with those mid-short range passes that we keep hearing have been added to create a more inexperienced QB offense.

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by southtunnel on Aug 4, 2011 12:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

K, I see where you're going

I still feel Clausen needs to prove himself on deep routes for those short-mid options to be open. Even if the play is called for a pass for short gain, the defenses won’t give you those passes unless you open up the field. As an example, NE gets huge chunks on swing passes to RBs out of the backfield. The reason he’s able to do this is their system has a WR clear out the area prior to the RB timed release and swing pass. If the WR running that route isn’t a threat b/c Brady can’t reasonably sling it deep, that RB will not have room for his YAC. Even if Clausen is good at short-mid range passes, those guys aren’t going to get open if he can’t sling the ball deep in the system that’s being deployed. The safeties will stay closer and help the LBs on TE and run coverage, and thus you have poor YPC, poor completion percentage, and a cluttered run game. To address that issue would require a complete revamp of the type of offensive plays we’d be running, and I just don’t see it happening.

by ppalm on Aug 4, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think our offense will look more similar to Gus Malzahn's than Coryell's.

At least for much of Cam’s first season. Obviously Cam will be under center more than he was in Malzahn’s offense, but either way, I will be surprised to see him attempt more than 20-22 passes a game, on average.

We resigned D-Will for a reason. We are going to pound teams now that Otah is back and our backs are healthy. With that said, hopefully we will not see the same slow starts with the running game that we have seen under Fox.

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by ERL on Aug 4, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

One thing I loved about him as a prospect, and something I saw flashes of even last year.

was his mid-range accuracy and ability to squeeze it into tight windows. From what I hear Chud loves to use intermediate crossing routes. I think if Clausen can correct his other issues like poor pocket presence and general skittishness he could really prove himself a valuable trading chip/quality #2 QB.

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by Flowing Willow on Aug 3, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

that skittishness is what has me worried. He looked good today in practice but it was in 7 on 7s with majority of our defensive talent on the sidelines. Really wanna see him and Cam get some run with the 1’s against the Giants

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 4, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

That will be a much better test.

Especially given the talent they have on the DL.

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by Flowing Willow on Aug 4, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Id like to see Jimmy lead a good drive for a TD. that would convince me he has improved. Considering he had all of 3 last year. I know he is in better shape and looks more focused but when the lights are on and the rush in in ya face is where it counts.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 4, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

and one of them was a COMPLETELY blown defensive assignment

Can’t remember who we were playing, but Stewart was practically on my TV screen by himself when he caught the ball. Might as well had been a pregame warm-up toss.

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by Newsinz on Aug 4, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO it was the saints!!!

I can remember all three!!

Things are turning around

by CaptainPanther on Aug 4, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok

Lets say Jimmy finally clicks and turns into a pro bowler this season and suprises everyone.. What do we do with Cam? Pay him his 23 million as a bench player? Then again, it could be a catch 22. If we didnt draft Cam to begin with then maybe Jimmy wouldnt have had that fire under him to get good..

by PantherTrain on Aug 3, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

You trade whichever one doesn’t look as good.

by SlayerGhaleon on Aug 3, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather trade you off of this site because you’re not very smart.

by SlayerGhaleon on Aug 3, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

trading clausen sounds smart to me

he looks awful, just yesterday we were calling him worst than last year

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by PughDaddy73 on Aug 3, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard Cam looked awful to

should we trade him now… lets see how they play in preseason

by rscott94 on Aug 3, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't know we drafted Clausen this last draft..

Oh, we didn’t. You’re comparing rookie Cam to 1 year starter Clausen.

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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 3, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by PughDaddy73 on Aug 3, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

you people are zombies.

whatever steve smith can do, i cannot do better

by scatterbrain on Aug 4, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

and yesterday he was wowing coaches

he is just a rookie, Clausen should be showing major improvements

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by PughDaddy73 on Aug 3, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently you didn’t read the hypothetical that PT brought up.

by SlayerGhaleon on Aug 3, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking reality

not fantasy

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by PughDaddy73 on Aug 3, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then why comment on a hypothetical situation at all?

by SlayerGhaleon on Aug 3, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he's basing his comment on PT's hypothetical situation...

Given the information he has, I understand where he’s coming from, and agree with him.

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by BW Smith on Aug 3, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reality is....

We have 2 Horrible QBs and things aren’t looking good. How’s that for reality? I’m pulling for Anderson or Pike!

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by BiggerRedMachines on Aug 4, 2011 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm.....

Wrong and No. Nuff said.

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by ALAC on Aug 4, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s subtle…

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by Ivan459 on Aug 3, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

You’ve got to get a handle on Cam’s development, see if it’s worth it to trade a (hypothetical) Pro Bowl QB, at the same time you also have to make sure Clausen isn’t a one year wonder. Having two quality QB’s is a good problem to have though.

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by Flowing Willow on Aug 4, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

much better then having two shitty ones lol

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 4, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, unless Cam bombs the preseason, Jimmy is in all likelihood not going to start (barring injury).

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by Ivan459 on Aug 3, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we should slow down here on Clausen. The guy has had one decent day throwing (from what I can tell) mainly short passes. He didn’t do well in the previous practices. I’m not ready to say he will be anything more than a backup, just like I am not willing to crown Cam as ROY.

This is the early days of training camp, and our main starters on D are almost all waiting for that August 4th date to get back on the field. Perhaps this hypothetical thinking will have more credence after the 3rd preseason game comes around.

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by Ivan459 on Aug 3, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why have two QB’s that are number one calibur why not get some value for him at the end of next season I dont see that as dumb. If clausen shows some flashes we may get some other pieces to help this football team.

by Dcredible on Aug 3, 2011 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

The stupid part is just picking Clausen automatically despite on field results. Oldham put it best. You let them compete in the offseason, then whoever doesn’t win you put on the trading block.

by SlayerGhaleon on Aug 3, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

IF, and thats a big IF...

Clausen turns out to be a good QB, and Newton progresses into the QB we all hope for, you have to test both on the trading block and see who brings the most value. Are you telling me that if Newton can bring 2 1st’s an Clausen can only bring a 2nd..or vice versa..we should still keep one over the other? You have to see whats out there..accepting that possibly taking the lesser of the two could be best for the team..

by Ryan439 on Aug 3, 2011 10:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You never take the lesser of the two when the position is QB

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did that Rivers Brees sitch work out?

My point is, if they both turn out to be really good QB’s but some other team strongly coovets one over the other, then you get the most value not necessarily trade the one you like least.. Especially with the rookie wage scale..you can really improve your team for years on the cheap with solid 1st round picks.

by Ryan439 on Aug 4, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Brrees left on his own free will. His shoulder scared SD and other teams Saints took a gamble it worked out.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 4, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i predict

10 years from now, to suggest cam and jimmy are similar/comparable talents, will be cause for a good LOL. maybe not today, aug. 3, 2011. but history will prove we have one great QB, and 1 career backup. IMO

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you think for a second that they’d trade Newton over Clausen… Mercy.

The best we can hope for is a Brees-Rivers situation…But the way things are running now, Clausen’s going to have to play 2 or 3 times better than Cam to beat him out. And if Clausen plays like a Pro Bowler and Cam plays like (whatever your favorite euphemism is for terrible), you’re not going to get any trade value for him anyway.

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by NotSoBigPoppa on Aug 3, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

and by “him,” I mean Cam (in the final sentence).

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by NotSoBigPoppa on Aug 3, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have no reason to discuss this

Clausen has shown no reason to have any value in a trade whatsoever just like notsobig said Clausen would have to improve substantially over last year. I have no doubt he is playing better than Newton in camp now. He is coming off of almost a full NFL season, he should be leaps and bounds ahead of Newton. I think what surprises me is that it is so close of a competition. I think that’s why Newton will get the nod at the start of the season.

by Dcredible on Aug 3, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

JC had a better practice today.

but in camp so far? Cam has played better, from the reports I’ve heard. Jimmy has had a couple of terrible practices, moreso than Cam

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, that’s not true. Cam has had a terrible camp, but he gets a flier because he’s a rookie.

by Blahbla on Aug 3, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking...

It was Joe Person who said that Clausen has had the better camp so far. Cam has had a lot of really awesome throws and some really awful picks. Exactly what we should expect from a rookie.

by patosan on Aug 4, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Newton turns out to be not as good as they hope, they will. Mindlessly sticking to a paradigm was a Fox trademark.

by SlayerGhaleon on Aug 4, 2011 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

They would trade clausen and bring in a rookie to learn behind cam.

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by Billmania on Aug 3, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA

After 3 practices people are debating which QB to trade… Here’s an idea, let’s wait until AFTER the season to discuss such things. Right now I don’t care who it is, I just want to have better QB play than last season.

by chatoka on Aug 3, 2011 11:10 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

we really must be bored, right?

think how much fun this is going to be after a “real” preseason game…

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by NotSoBigPoppa on Aug 3, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

i agree with chatoka. it’s the beginning of camp. save the trades and bates and master bates for the preseason. critics mean nothing as coaches initiate rule. idk about after season, but 4th day of camp…. we should be thanking the things that are going right.

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by scatterbrain on Aug 4, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I read a report we could have as much as 22 people step on the field for the first time tomorrow. We haven’t even seen this team yet

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 4, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

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by Billmania on Aug 3, 2011 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

No Clausen played well, so he is the franchise guy. No worries!

/sarcasm

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by Ivan459 on Aug 3, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you think the QB situation got a little confusing today with JC outplaying

SUPERCAM, wait till tomorrow. It wouldn’t be surprising if “the vet” #3 starts practice tomorrow, and looks relatively more effective than the two young QBs have been. as much as i didn’t really care for the pickup, you would almost expect him to “get it” more than the other two do, at this point in camp.

and so, what do we do then, if DA outplays them in practice? Could he end up starting week 1??

by revdwl34 on Aug 4, 2011 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

yes. I think DA starting gives us the ebst shot to win. Let CAM watch and learn.

We need Brandon Larson to Play 3rd! Can't be worse than Rentawreck, right?!?

by BiggerRedMachines on Aug 4, 2011 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

shouldn't clausen outplay cam anyway

with one year already under the belt? not to be on either side, but clausen does know (in a way) how the game’s played in nfl speed. whether clausen starts or not, i think the organization knows who their guy is anyway, but if clausen ends up out-playing cam and plays very solid this season, it still puts us in a very nice spot for the offseason next year. by next year, if clausen plays well, he’ll just have that much value for trade or to keep. even if the organization decides to go another direction and looks for buyers in cam newton, he will still have very good value in my opinion as he wasn’t the most “nfl ready” player in the draft anyway.

all in all, i welcome the qb competition. may the best win over the starting job and take us to the superbowl, please.

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by Shockers on Aug 4, 2011 12:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely

All in all, we are the fans and we can all be happy when we start winning. If drafting cam was the catalyst to clausen who ends up playing like a pro-bowler, that’s awesome. If cam takes us to the playoffs, that’s cool too. It is a performance-driven league, and whoever can take us to the promised land, whether it’s clausen, supercam, moses or tim tebow, I will fully support the man.

I definitely understand where the clausen vs cam debate is coming from, but it is “what have you done for me lately” league. unfortunately, talents aside, neither have done much yet.

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by Shockers on Aug 4, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

+cam

just tryin out my new sig

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by revdwl34 on Aug 4, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was great.....

I was there from about 6 til 9 and it was pretty impressive! Cam through a amazing block for Stewart, he did throw a int. but……cant complain. Jimmy did surprisingly good, he looked very very confident. Smitty wasnt as energized with the fans as usual. He didnt say nothing while signing autographs or even crack a smile! Beast on the other hand was great! He was joking around laughing, smiling and taking pictures. I got about 4 autographs Beast, Armanti, Brown, Wharton. I think il be there all week so I will update as much as I can also!

by cpanthers11 on Aug 4, 2011 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Can we at least give TC another couple of weeks here before we start crowning Clausen as a pro bowler? For crying out loud people…

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by Ivan459 on Aug 4, 2011 2:04 AM EDT reply actions  

+Cam

Next week will be interesting

by rscott94 on Aug 4, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say this is more a reflection

of the 2nd string defense we are playing. Won’t be the same with CJ, Beast, Anderson and Gamble out there. Rivera was not kidding, we have a long way to go.

by pieterzen on Aug 4, 2011 5:25 AM EDT reply actions  

We didn't draft Cam #1 to sit behind Clausen.......................

And he is clearly the superior pysical specimen and athlete. So unless Clausen outplays him say 10:1 Jimmy will be on the bench. However, there’s always the possibility of injury, so if Clausen signficantly improves it gives us some insurance, along with Anderson. This may be as deep as we’ve been at QB in a number of years and I think it’s great. Remember Wienke and David Carr when our top QB goes down?

Cam will get coached up and be fine. There will be growing pains. Think Vince Young, without being a head case.

by magicman56 on Aug 4, 2011 6:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I can't wait for the Chicken Littles later on today

OMG! JIMMY IS AWFUL TODAY. WHO DO WE HAVE NOW?!!?!?1

by GMallory on Aug 4, 2011 7:04 AM EDT reply actions  

+cam.

but im more surprised at JC having ONE good practice and their opinion of him changed

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by revdwl34 on Aug 4, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just explaining the Rules & Regulations to the youngster.

I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus

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by The Duke Dude on Aug 4, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

The best part is the title of the video...

“Carolina Panthers Training Camp 8/2/11 Smitty Clowns RJ Sanford”

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by ERL on Aug 4, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would have been funnier

if Clowney was the WR. Is he still on the team?

by Beny on Aug 4, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

For now, I think he is.

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by ERL on Aug 4, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

regardless of Smitty messin' with Sanford...

…that was a GREAT out pass from Claussen. Well timed and on the money. If he can do that under pressure, we have decent QB.

by Mr_Sticky on Aug 4, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do ya'll think we'll see

Clausen and Cam on the field at the same time?

With Cam’s unique abilities and physical traits, he can play RB, WR, TE. Clausen can pass to Cam in the flat, pulling the defense in, then bombing it to Smitty or Gettis or running it up the field.

I know we’ve talked about doing this type of play with Armanti and DWill (he’s talked about it himself). The only reason I see to not do this is it increases risk of injury to Cam.

by Beny on Aug 4, 2011 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

No.

Armanti could do whatever they would have Clausen do, except he can still run if the play breaks down.

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by ERL on Aug 4, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think Jimmy can run like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gZ6YFOc3Vk

I agree with you, btw… if they’re going to do that kind of trickery, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it as a Cam – AE combo.

by Fernando De La Cruz on Aug 4, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

He’d slide once he saw a defender coming over to cover him.

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by ERL on Aug 4, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair

I was not envisioning Jimmy as the one receiving any sort of pass. I’m thinking more along the line of the classic NFL Blitz plays that result in the off the screen passes that were pretty cheesy.

by Beny on Aug 4, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I wasn't seriously suggesting installing that play

But I remember when that play happened… I remember being really surprised at how successful that play was for them. So I dropped it in here just for kicks.

by Fernando De La Cruz on Aug 4, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can we say...

First play of the season, just to show how BAMFs we are?

Stuuuuuuuuu

by Gnuff on Aug 4, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Updates from Steve Reed via Twitter...

Gettis said he worked out with Clausen in Cali during the offseason.

The most interesting update:
Rivera has said that AE is in the running for the #2 spot with Gettis and LaFell.

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by jamiedk on Aug 4, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow...

I knew he worked hard in the offseason, but that’s really impressive progress. Really, really good news.

I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus

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by The Duke Dude on Aug 4, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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