Carolina Panthers UDFA overview pt.1
by James Dator on Aug 3, 2011 11:02 AM EDT
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PrintWith signings finalized the Carolina Panthers reached terms with thirteen undrafted free agents (UDFA) who are currently competing for spots in camp. It's far too easy two write off these players as 'camp bodies' or throw aways, but in reality often these are players who are lacking just a couple of elements to their game. We have numerous examples of players who were able to put it together and become valuable players- from Kurt Warner and Wes Welker to Panther favorite Brad Hoover. I will be breaking down our UDFA crop four players at a time in this thee part series.
Jamorris Warren, WR - Central Missouri
Warren could have the best story of all the Panthers' UDFAs. Barely on the radar for the 2011 draft, he wowed scouts when he was asked to assist 1st round pick Blaine Gabbert with his pro day. The result was the small school receiver shooting up draft boards only to finish undrafted. As it stands, he could be the most likely UDFA WR to make the roster.
2010 stats: 109 receptions, 1,458 yards, 20 TD
More after the jump
Malcolm Tatum, DE - Louisville
At 6'5", 253lbs Tatum is a DE on the smaller side, but that doesn't mean he can't make an impact for the Carolina Panthers. In a game against Rutgers (pictured) Tatum closed out the 2010 season with a dominating 7 tackle, 2 sack performance. With DE depth very much in the air he could earn himself a spot.
2010 stats: 44 tackles, 4.5 sacks, 2 FF
Greg Smith, TE - Texas
A big, primarily run blocking TE, Greg Smith didn't get many opportunities at Texas. Unfortunately, this is a situation where that same scenario could be echoed in the NFL as he will have to be fighting Ben Hartsock for the 3rd TE spot, which is an unenviable position. That being said, a good camp could put him on the practice squad to become the #3 when Jeremy Shockey's contract is up.
2010 stats: 9 receptions, 60 yards
Brandon Smith, WR - Arizona State
Smith is definitely the most puzzling out of the UDFA signings. An extremely promising WR out of high school, Smith missed the entire 2007 and 2009 seasons due to injury. The result of this is a 24 year old UDFA who really hasn't mad much college experience. It seems the Panthers were willing to roll the dice and hope he still shows the potential he had when he was a top 100 recruit.
2010 stats: 1 reception, 9 yards
Next installment will feature Anthony Santella, Ryan Pugh, Adi Kunalich and Thomas Keiser
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If I had to pick, I'd say Warren and Burney find a roster spot...
but that’s just my two cents
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Well, I don’t really care what school he played for honestly, because this kind of stat line:
2010 stats: 109 receptions, 1,458 yards, 20 TD
is damned impressive no matter how you cut it. Hope the guy can stay with the team and show us something.
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Indeed
That sounds like a situation of the defense knowing they’re gonna throw to the kid and not being able to do anything about it.
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
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by The Duke Dude on Aug 3, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like old school Smitty
Double team, Triple team, it didn’t matter… he got the ball
How Did Everyone Get Drunk On The Warren Kool-Aid?
Yes, Warren had a very good season last year, just like dozens of other small college WR’s did, but he wont make it in the NFL. Warren (6-1, 197, 4.58-40) was ranked as the drafts 84th best WR, and 662nd best player by nfldraftscout.
Warren is a poorer version of WR Freddie Barnes, of Bowling Green, from last years draft, who wasn’t drafted, though he was ranked as the drafts 27th best WR, and the drafts 212th best player. He spent last season on a Practice Squad, and has already been cut this year, with no takers. If you want eye-popping stats, then here are Barnes 2009 college numbers.
155 catches – 1,770 yards – 19 TD’s
by PanthersRoar on Aug 3, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Because catches, yards, and TD's are more important than 40 times, height, and weight.
It’s not always about what Player X does/did at the combine. It’s about what he did on the field too.
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
by BW Smith on Aug 3, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
So, Quick Run Out & Sign Freddie Barnes!
WR Freddie Barnes (6-0, 212, 4.58-40).
by PanthersRoar on Aug 3, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure...bring him in to camp.
Which is where Morris is right now. Camp.
I think he’ll make the roster because I think he’s a diamond in the rough. He’s certainly comparable to the greats Wallace Wright, Charly Martin, Trent Guy, and Darvin Adams.
We’re talking about the 6th WR on the chart…not the starting WR opposite Steve Smith.
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
What did Jerry Rice do at the Combine? A 4.6? You can’t take what a guy did in pajamas for a weekend and make it trump his entire football career.
You can’t measure good hands and clean routes statistically, dude.
I’m not saying the kid is going to be awesome but give him a chance.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
I’m not saying the kid is going to be awesome but give him a chance.
That’s all I’m saying.
I’d rather see Warren get the shot as the 6th guy on the chart than Wright, Martin, Adams, and Guy (well, maybe not Guy, but you can’t keep ’em both).
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
Sure you can, just ask Al Davis
It works out quite well for him.
+cam
it would be nice if some of our beat writers would start to give us more info on the young/fringe guys. there’s a ton of guys i’d like to hear about and haven’t heard a peep yet. maybe i’ll try to tweet some of the writers and request this
Dangit.
Now the Kool-aid tastes like urine.
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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But will it improve your 40 time?
Because you have to have a sub-4.5 40 if you want to make this team…
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
Just putting it out there, so feel free to disagree...
But it might be worth drinking urine to run a 4.3
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 3, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Me either...
The only time I’d need to run that fast is if I were being chased by a bear…and if that were the case the time I would take to stop, whip it out, aim up, and drink would negate the time saved on my dash.
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
TWSS
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~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
That would be awful, wouldn’t it?
“Wake me up when you’re done.”
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~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
How could someone fall asleep in less than 2 minutes though?
/not that I know anything about that
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
Good point.
But dude…its 2 and a half.
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~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol. Yea right.
She’d wake up with her eyes crusted shut.
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The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
True. I was thinking of it from Warren's perspective.
He’d be well served to have a faster 40 time. Me? I can’t catch a cold, so it wouldn’t matter.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 3, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I was referring to the
being chased by a bear scenario
And he was referring to the comment you replied to. :-)
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
Small Schools can produce big time players.
I am not the biggest college fan but I think that state lines for either big schools or small schools can be as miss leading as reading an inverted map in the dark. Names like Jarret and Colbert come to mind for that. WRs benift from systems as much as QB ex Danny Warffel and Chris Weink. Heart is something that can not be measured but can been seen upon the feild. that said I have not clue about Warren as player lol.
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It’s called giving someone with damn good numbers a chance to see what he can do at camp. You can call it whatever you like, fact is, I’m not saying he is going to supplant #89, Gettis, LaFell, or anyone else. This is TC, and I think he was a smart UDFA signing.
Let’s see what he can do before we start accusing people of drinking kool-aid.
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Thanks James I've been waiting for this info
Can’t wait for the next one
CAN'T WAIT!
The question is not how far. The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far is as needed? - El Duche
I Don't See an Empty Roster Spot For Warren
The Panthers probably have 5 WR’s (Smith, Gettis, LaFell, Edwards, and Pilares) locked into roster spots, and they may be forced to carry only 5 WR’s on the roster if they go 4 RB’s (Williams, Stewart, Goodson, and Sutton), 1 FB, 3 TE’s, 3QB’s and 9 O-Linemen. If the Panthers find a way to add a 6th WR, then it will likely be a special teams standout like Wallace Wright, or the slightly cheaper Charly Martin.
We got rid of the KOS...
So there’s an extra spot for Warren.
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
Wow! I had no idea Warren had such gaudy stats!
Crazy stuff… numbers like that, doesnt matter what your competition is, that is ridiculous.
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I think Warren could make the team
If he’s willing to plat ST or play on the practice squad. I’d hate to release a talent like that to the open market, especially since we’re so unsure in the WR dept.
In situations like this when things are bad, the easy thing to do is fold up the tent, just pack it up and accept it. But winners and people who are successful realize that when things get tough, it’s an opportunity to define yourself. They realize that in this moment, you can do something great. - Jon Beason
by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 3, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
Exactly what I thought
The guys stats say that he could be very good. Let’s keep him until we know for sure.
CAN'T WAIT!
The question is not how far. The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far is as needed? - El Duche
UDFAs don't get a choice in whether or not they play special teams :-)
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Yeah, but whether or not he wants to play ST is another matter
A player that wants to play ST is normally gonna do a lot better than a player who is forced. If he’s willing and wants to make the team by playing ST until his number is called as a fill in WR, I think he can make the team.
In situations like this when things are bad, the easy thing to do is fold up the tent, just pack it up and accept it. But winners and people who are successful realize that when things get tough, it’s an opportunity to define yourself. They realize that in this moment, you can do something great. - Jon Beason
by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 3, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
When filling camp positions
I have no problem with giving a spot to a WR with starter potential (in the future). If it doesn’t pan out, oh well. If it does, watch out!
by Scotch on the Prowl on Aug 3, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
How does a guy with Warren's stat line go undrafted?
I don’t care what system, what coach, what QB you have. Catching that many passes for that many yards is awesome.
"Excuses are a disease." -Cam Newton
Warren over Pilares?
Way too early to speculate, but… Hypothetically, if Warren is better than Pilares in preseason, is it OK to part with your 5th rounder because you found something better? Especially since it’s at least possible now that AE might be our slot guy, making Pilares’ skill set less valuable than if AE were struggling.
If Warren is that much better than Pilares...
Then yes, it’s ok to cut a 5th round pick because a UDFA does the job better.
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
I think once you get down to the 5th round, you are taking fliers anyway and hoping someone emerges
So, I think if Warren shows that he is great in camp, you put him on the 53 and knock Pilares down to the practice squad. If he gets taken from there… then so be it.
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Warren
He is the only one out of this bunch that has a chance. More than likely we will try and hide him of the PS.
Coach Rivera, is a BAMF..
I think he makes the team.
I think we’re keeping 6 WR’s…
Smitty, Gettis, LaFell, Edwards, Pilares, Warren
Not having a KOS and using Hartsock as the 3rd TE/2nd FB adds 2 roster spots, and I think they’ll use one of them on Warren.
The other spot will either be a OL/DL or a DB.
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
Bingo
I think we go 6-deep at WR also.
Smith/Gettis/LaFell/Edwards/Pilares/Warren… I think Wallace Wright is a casualty because of Sean Considine, and two extra roster spots are freed up by Kasay and likely not carrying two FBs
Even with Hartsock?
I actually like the idea of Hartsock being on the 53, for being able to bring playing TE and FB to the table, but it depends on how he shows at TC and preseason, I suppose.
Or am I screwing up?
I may be thinking about Brockel (sp?) instead, unless Hartsock is also capable of that. I’m confusing myself now, I think. Too… many… names…
And I'm really screwing up...
…because I glossed completely over what BW said. I fail horrendously.
to make the team he might need to show value on special teams,
otherwise guys like Charly, Wright, and even Guy would have that value over him. But if he shows potential, lets at least practice squad him
He wold more likely make PS
than Pilares. Obviously Pilares was more known and Warren slipped under the radar.
Extra Roster Spot and practice squad
Without carrying an extra kicker this season someone gets an extra spot… Sure looks like we need CB & WR help.
As it stands we have 8 CBs on the roster
26 Burney, Kendric CB 5-9 190 23 R North Carolina
20 Gamble, Chris CB 6-1 200 28 8 Ohio State
25 Gordon, Cletis CB 6-1 212 28 5 Jackson State
21 Hogan, Brandon CB 5-10 190 23 R West Virginia
36 McClain, Robert CB 5-9 195 23 2 Connecticut
41 Munnerlyn, Captain CB 5-8 186 23 3 South Carolina
35 Stanford, R.J. CB 5-10 183 23 1 Utah
27 Wilson, C.J. CB 6-1 195 26 5 Baylor
Remains to be seen how they shake out, but we have an abundance at the position
you can scratch Hogan off the list. His injury doesn’t look to be going away any time soon. We got good depth id just like a quality corner who could start. If not one of these young guys is really going to have to step up
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"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
My money is on this...
Gamble, Munnerlyn, Standford, McClain
Hogan goes to IR, which frees a spot for Burney.
If we carry 6 corners, i think it will be a free agent before we roll with Cletis.
Also… correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t CJ Wilson go elsewhere?
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CJ Wilson isn't that bad, as a backup. Not great, but not bad.
He did create a couple of TO’s last preseason
Munnerlyn did a very admirable job on Fitz last season actually
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captain gets up in big guys' personal space and gives em the fidgets, IMO
he is fun to watch challenge the bigger guys. like a little brother that just won’t leave you alone
Mr White in ATL was having a fit with Munn covering him last season, too
Guy was acting like a baby when Munnerlyn schooled him on out routes
There are only 2 DB's in the league that would...
Darelle Revis
Nnamdi Asomugha
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
Those numbers are BANANAS
How is warren looking in camp?…..i haven’t heard anything about him
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by Justin704 on Aug 3, 2011 11:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
James
What are your plans of doing this 4 players a day? Would like to see your thought on Thomas Keiser and Ugo Chinasa both were pretty d@mm good player in college.
Coach Rivera, is a BAMF..
Greg Smith TE
I bet he chooses elswhere to try and make a roster if the Greg Olsen trade hade been earlier.
Off topic, but @merrilhoge is bangin on Tebow hard on Twitter.
I combined some of the quotes.
Sitting watching tape off bronco offense from last year! Orton or Tebow? It’s embarrassing to think the broncos could win with tebow!!
Orton or tebow? QB play is not just about who works hard gives rare rare college speeches or who is a good guy!! Because orton works hard and is a good guy as well. It’s about who can play!! I just watched Tebow throw 5 out routes to a wide open WR! He was 1 for 5! 2 went in the dirt 2 in the stands! That throwing motion he changed? U can’t change who u r! Just watched 2 throws and he throws like he did in college!!
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true, but Tebow is a Jake kinda guy character wise
i just don’t get why they are so anxious to deal Orton. Orton is a playoff caliber QB IMO. Maybe it’s a contract/money thing. But if it were me, I’d let the two of them compete through training camp and let the best guy play. And I think, that’s Orton. If he’s better than Tebow, then why would you deal him? Is the FO/Elway mandating Tebow start??
Big talk about that on ESPN lately. Mutiny perhaps. Locker room will be split. Some guys are behind Orton some are behind Tebow.
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
Could be bitterness from last season....
But personally I think it would be great if the Panthers go out and really compete this year with much of the same roster Fox failed with last year and Denver follows the same path the Panthers did last year.
I love what Fox did for the Panthers in his time here but I really feel like he mailed it in last year and that our team suffered from it. We have WAY too much talent on this team to finish 2-14.
Denver picked second for a reason…they weren’t that great either and i they have done less to improve the team then we have. Orton or Tebow Fox has his work cut out for him.
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
I personally didn't get the Fox move for them....
I do think he is a good coach and did a lot for us here….
But why a team who finished with the second worst record in the league would go out and hire the head coach of the only team that finished even worse than them to turn them around is beyond me.
You have to look at Fox's "body of work"
He’s an above .500 coach for his career. Someone with that record, plus eight years of HC experience is a hot commodity. And I think they understood the less than desirable situation he was in last season.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
Plus...
Elway may be hoping lightning strikes twice. Remember, Fox came in after our 2001 1-15 season — we went to the Superbowl in two seasons. Could be Elway believes Fox has the potential — and the Broncos have the talent — to make that potential repeat of history happen once again.
It's true...
Hence why I said “I do think he is a good coach”.
I’m just looking at it from a Bronco fan’s perspective in that respect.
If I was a Bronco fan I would have been looking for something more than the coach who’s team finished last in the NFL.
After the bitter taste is gone, I really do wish Fox well and think he’s a good coach, it just kinda upsets me the way it seemed like nobody really cared last year.
That’s why fans don’t hire coaches.
Just think…if the majority of Panthers fans were in charge of hiring coaches, we’d have Bill Cowher right now, instead of BAMF.
The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. ~David Foster Wallace
If Cowher had been willing to come to us, that is.
I’m not sure he would have, though it would have been intriguing to see. But we have BAMF, and I’m quite happy with BAMF thus far.
Plus, he is an experienced DEFENSIVE head coach.
Broncos had to do something to get their defense in order. Say what you will the Panthers defense still played well last year. The Broncos absolutely had to address their disconnected defense with an experienced coach.
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he is just bearley above 500.. like a game or two!!
Things are turning around
by CaptainPanther on Aug 4, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Well above .500 is above .500.
It is what it is.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
by ERL on Aug 4, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think you're right
It is bitterness from last season.
j/k
In situations like this when things are bad, the easy thing to do is fold up the tent, just pack it up and accept it. But winners and people who are successful realize that when things get tough, it’s an opportunity to define yourself. They realize that in this moment, you can do something great. - Jon Beason
by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 3, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i think john fox knows how to win.....in 1988
all he needs is a time machine to get to another super bowl
Maybe it's just because I am in NFC North country where I live...
But having watched Orton and Grossman battle for the QB position in Chicago I personally don’t care for either one of them and am not sold that either are a franchise/playoff caliber QB. Just my opinion.
i still say give orton a good offense and decent WRs he will get you 8-11 wins a year
i dont know if tebow does, yet
I saw the highlights from the Chargers game.
He had happy feet in the pocket, a long windup, and was missing his recievers by a mile. He looked absolutely awful. Hodge has a valid point. If it wasn’t for the mythical ‘intangibles’ everyone loves, he would be a 3rd round project QB. He does not look ready to be a starting QB, Kyle Orton gives them a much, much netter chance to win.
by Panthers FTW on Aug 3, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I give them first dips on Luck next year. Gonna be a long season in Denver
Poor Foxy. Gotta hate all the good news coming out of the Carolina’s
I like collard greens.
either that or SF tanks the season on purpose so harbaugh can get his QB
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It's terrible to admit..
But that would set them up for many, many years to come.
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Marc Bulger retired, i didn't see that coming
i thought he turned us down because he wanted an oppty to start. but retire instead of being a backup? guess the boy really did want to play. o/wise he could have road the Cam Train and been paid big bucks to “mentor” the young bucks wearing a Panthers cap on the sidelines
He also wanted something like $5 million per season.
He’ll be with a team before the season’s over. Injuries will happen.
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that's what i expected too, just wondered why he felt the need to announce a retirement
instead of just sit at home watchin the kids waiting on the phone to ring, a la BSP
Leverage.
ie: You have to make a significant offer to bring me out of retirement.
"I may be old but...eh, I forget the rest!"
Brandon Smith is probably a return man in the works...
…and has the speed to be a satellite player. For an UDFA signing I like it.
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