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An Early Panthers Camp 2-Deep Depth Chart

Joe Person psoted on Charlotte.com the Panthers two-deep depth chart, with one change. I think he has the back-up tackles in the wrong spot. Just as we discussed on the radio show last night we will look at the surprise developments on several positions

The Panthers two-deep depth chart:

OFFENSE

QB – Cam Newton/Jimmy Clausen

TB – DeAngelo Williams/Jonathan Stewart

FB – Tony Fiammetta/Ben Hartsock - Indicates the Panthers will only keep one FB

WR – Steve Smith/Armanti Edwards - Will Edwards run in the slot?

WR – David Gettis/Brandon LaFell - Speed over size

TE – Jeremy Shockey/Greg Olsen

LT – Jordan Gross/Lee Ziemba  Garry Williams

LG – Travelle Wharton/Zack Williams

C – Ryan Kalil/Mackenzy Bernadeau - MacBern has to get better at snapping the ball to stick here

RG – Geoff Schwartz/Duke Robinson - Robinson getting his last shot?

RT – Jeff Otah/Garry Williams Lee Ziemba - I definitely prefer the rook at RT

 

Defense & ST...after the jump...

Star-divide

 

DEFENSE

DE – Charles Johnson/Eric Norwood

DT – Ron Edwards/Sione Fua

DT – Terrell McClain/Nick Hayden - Nemblett has to be breathing down Hayden's neck

DE – Everette Brown/Greg Hardy - Will Brown start once Hardy gets back?

OLB – James Anderson/Omar Gaither - Gaither is a McDermott favorite

MLB – Jon Beason/Dan Connor

OLB – Thomas Davis/Lawrence Wilson

CB – Chris Gamble/R. J. Stanford - The first of two 7th round picks to fill out our nickel & dime packages

CB – Captain Munnerlyn/Robert McClain

SS – Sherrod Martin/Sean Considine - Where's Kenny Payne?

FS – Charles Godfrey/Jordan Pugh

 

SPECIAL TEAMS

K – Olindo Mare/Adi Kunalic

P – Jason Baker/Anthony Santella

 

Thoughts?

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Not sure about the TE but I like both of them alot.

by Smith is alegend on Aug 3, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

burney

I think burney has been making some big plays and being fairly consistent in practice.

by jc51119 on Aug 3, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Newton Declared Starter Already?

Is this an official depth chart or just speculation?

I’m not a Clausen fan at all other than the fact that he plays for Carolina but I find it hard to believe they would declare Newton the starter after two full pads practices. I thought they would have a competition. But I also figured that Newton would win out in the end because of sheer athletic ability and the fact that Clausen sucks.

IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG

by BlackCatFan on Aug 3, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

This is speculation...

Probably based mainly on what was seen last season from some players, and also based on reports from people at camp.

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by jamiedk on Aug 3, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then who is working with the 1st team offense?

IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG

by BlackCatFan on Aug 3, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jimmy and Cam are sharing reps.

I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.

by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 3, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

jimmy has been first with the 1st team offense.

they have kinda begun as JC 1A and SUPERCAM 1B

i look for Cam to start week 1 preseason. RR is trying hard to be diplomatic and compliment JC, but it’s obvious to everyone who our #1 QB is, it’s just a matter of (not very much) time before it’s made official, IMO

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're making a LOT of assumptions

I don’t think RR is trying to be diplomatic, I think he realizes he has an athletic stud unlike the game has ever seen at QB…but he’s a rookie AND has serious accuracy issues. If RR is a good HC at all, he’s noncommittal at this point; he has a QB with no NFL experience, one with a single bad year at the helm, and one with experience in the system, but with massive questions about his ability.

If he’s already made his decision for a week 1 starter, he’s not the HC we think/hope he is.

by Mr_Sticky on Aug 3, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize that BW was at camp yesterday...

But seriously, I think you are right with switching the backup OTs. I think you need to switch Norwood and Hardy as well—Hardy behind Johnson and Norwood behind Brown (for now).

The starting safeties need to be switched, as well. Godfrey at strong Martin at free.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice.

The incandescent mullet.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least now you know how to find me if you go Saturday...

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by BW Smith on Aug 3, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice description. I wasn't sure what color to call that.

BW, what did the stylist call it?

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 3, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Flamer...

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by BW Smith on Aug 3, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol nice.

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I do it awesomely.

by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 3, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

How'd you find me?

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by Shockers on Aug 3, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like Jeff Davidson when the Krispy Kreme "Hot N Fresh" light comes on...

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by BW Smith on Aug 3, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCoach43

Found this youtube channel. Lots of interviews from players and coaches from camp

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Sweet, thanks.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome channel!

Also, check out nflpanthersO7’s channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/nflpanthersO7
The audio is pretty good. I found it while watching some of TheCoach43’s videos.
I just listened to the Greg Olsen interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY7cp4zLV84)
He and everyone else seem genuinely excited to be here, which is friggin’ awesome!
Olsen is going to be on my fantasy team! DeAngelo too!

What we do is what we do.

by WilkesViking on Aug 3, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

The guys backing up the #2 corner and wide receiver

are actually the slot/nickel guys. So, LaFell is our slot receiver and Armanti is our 4th option. On the other side, McClain is our nickel back and R.J. Stanford is our dime back. Overall, I’m pretty content with the depth chart. It is evident that the new coaching staff is more competent than the former coaching staff. Can’t wait for August 13!

by rtb285 on Aug 3, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Olsen is probably 2nd just because he hasn't practiced with the team

I’m sure he’ll be the starter going into first preseason game. Shockey is too past his prime to be ahead of Olsen. Plus if Shockey is to be a contributor for 16 games, then we’d better limit his minutes… Maybe more of a Ricky Proehl type role.

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by southtunnel on Aug 3, 2011 10:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i wouldn’t be shocked when the season is done if Olsen isn’t 2nd on the team in receptions. Guy has great hands and is very consistent. I could see Newton/or whoever starts going to him early and often to get things going

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I hope so...

I’ve said it before but I really love how this offense seems to be being built to chew up clock time. I’m completely fine with taking 5-10 yard chunks all day long!

The longer we can keep the Brees, Ryan and Freeman on the bench the better chance we have, not to mention this defense will be nasty if they get time to rest.

by MindMachine on Aug 3, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think keeping the Running backs and bringing it blocking TE shows we are still going to be a run first team. Good TE and strong running game is any QB’s best friend especially guys so young. I think we will be a bruiser football team on both sides of the ball. Hit you in the mouth type football. Can’t wait to see this team gel under this system. I think we have the chance to be really really good. Least our division rivals wont know what we are going to do every game…Like Beason said they are going to have to start doing some homework now. We were too Vanilla in years past. No creativity nothing ever different we ran our system to a default.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

I’m very excited to see some wrinkles on both sides of the ball that may actually confusing the opposing team.

And yes, it certainly does look like we are going to retain focus on the run game (which I like too), but Shockey and Olsen both bring the short passing game as well. If we start killing defenses with the running game and the short passes to TE’s that is only going to open up Gettis, Lafell and Smith down the field.

by MindMachine on Aug 3, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

but in this league now,

seems like you have to pass to set up the run sometimes. it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that teams continue to put 8 in the box until we give them reason not to. so this year’s passing game will have to be improved to avoid a repeat of last year’s rushing game being really not very good (because of the 8 in the box)

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right...

But if those 8 in the box just crash in on our line and RB’s like they did last year Shockey and Olsen should be wide open over the middle.

When they start taking a couple guys to make sure Shockey and Olsen covered thats going to open up Smith/Gettis/Lafell as well as take pressure of the RB’s.

by MindMachine on Aug 3, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

until our QB can prove he'll make the defense pay...

…we’re going to see 8 in the box all the time. Granted, I’d like to see us play a lot of 5 receiver sets on 1st and 2nd down, just to force more of a prevent defense so Cam can make some things happen with his legs if the defense puts 7 or 8 in coverage to handle the receivers.

by Mr_Sticky on Aug 3, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree man

we are going to be a smashmouth football team next year with the occasional big play. Anyone remember the dolphins going 1-15 a few years ago then the next year they went 10-6? They followed that smashmouth football mentality and made the playoff. Although they had a better qb in Chad Pennington than we will have this year, I believe that we have a much more talented roster than those dolphins did.

by mlrupert on Aug 3, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chewing up clock time

I do believe that was John Fox’s strategy, which is why we ran so much. Not saying we shouldn’t do that, because it is the right strategy.
The difference will be that Fox used the run for short gains to move the chains and then set up the play action long bomb.
Rivera will get those short gains with short passes and runs. All the short passes will hopefully stretch the field and let the run game break into the open field more often.

by Beny on Aug 3, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

But Fox’s problem was when it wasn’t working he stuck to the plan instead of trying something different.

That and our TE situation wasn’t nearly as good as it will be this year. I think that alone takes a ton of pressure off the QB, RB’s and WR’s.

by MindMachine on Aug 3, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Similar strategy but more modern and effective. Fox stuck with his system regardless of down and distance or how the game was going. im sure we could pass or run on any down under this system which really helps keep the defense on their toes.

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"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey

by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I can't wait

to see us do something creative and unpredictable for a change.

Fox’s system did not set us up for any play other than play action.
Remember the play last year where we actually tried using AE by having him streak across the backfield and tried running it (like Smitty would do now and then)? That play seemed like it was just thrown in there, with no strategy as to when to use it. The other team saw AE in the game for the first time in the season and Captain Obvious basically latched on to AE’s back.

This year I expect more moving parts, more deception, more options. It will be great.

by Beny on Aug 3, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

That’s the first thing I thought when we landed him. Awesome pickup!

by BeerRunner on Aug 3, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be shocked if Olsen has more receptions than anyone on the team by the end of the year

I don’t think he’ll have the most yardage, but I see him overpowering safeties and outrunning LB’s for 7-11 yard gains.

by Mr_Sticky on Aug 3, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like the list

Just a quesiton, is it possible to put tables into SB? It would make it easier to read, and because I want to put together a depth chart currently for the Clemson blog

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by AParker on Aug 3, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Clemson has a blog?

Even bigger question: Clemson people know how to read?

(just messing with you)

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by BW Smith on Aug 3, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's picture based.

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 3, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're right...

I just checked them out, and here’s the latest entry:

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by BW Smith on Aug 3, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Im just...

Great look at the dept chart, but im just not content with our depth at corner. It worrys me

Its CAMMY CAM TIME!!!!!

by Tedy_78 on Aug 3, 2011 11:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

yeah out of everything secondary worries me the most. In a pass happy league and a division with stud QB’s we are going to have to rush the QB A LOT. Get pressure get knockdowns and sacks. If not we could be carved up on a regular basis

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think they are clueless that are secondary lacks depth

It’s Aug. 3, not Sept. 3, so I’m withholding judgment on our secondary until Week 1. Look for a pickup when final roster cuts come down.

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

i hope. If we can add a quality #2 id feel much more confident. I like our depth we just are lacking near the top. I love Captain but i love him at nickel.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Given how well Ron Meeks knows our secondary...

I would think he would have told Hurney he needs more talent. I’m thinking they like what they got

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by Jaxon on Aug 3, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

who though? IYO

stanford? mcclain? hogan? (wont play this yr)

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know. i think thats what we were originally hoping but

reports are not optimistic, “not as close as they’d hoped”. being a rookie makes it harder on him to join in midstream. but its possible.

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a very good point, Jaxon

If anybody on this team knows our secondary, it’s Meeks. If he felt that there was a serious gap in what we need vs. what we have, then I’m sure he would have raised the red flag.

However, I think it should also be said that there may be some bias from Meeks concerning the talent he helped assemble when he held the DC position. He may, in fact, be looking through rose-colored glasses when it comes to “his” guys.

In situations like this when things are bad, the easy thing to do is fold up the tent, just pack it up and accept it. But winners and people who are successful realize that when things get tough, it’s an opportunity to define yourself. They realize that in this moment, you can do something great. - Jon Beason

by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 3, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

We were 11th in pass D in the legue last year, with zero pressure up the middle and Marshall at corner

Would be nice to have a more solid nickel as Munn moves up, but I’m not too worried.

by ppalm on Aug 3, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

With all due respect, ppalm...

We were 11th in pass D partly because teams could just run the ball. They didn’t have to pass to move the football.

I’m with you though, I don’t think we are that bad off in the secondary. I think people are selling Cap’n waaaaay short (pun clearly intended).

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry Cap.

Love the cereal, BTW. ;)

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Very nice...

Well played. =)

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by jamiedk on Aug 3, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harstock FB

I heard that discussed last night and I’m intrigued. I would like to see Fiametta step up. I thought he was ineffective last year but I’m willing to give a pass on last year. I’ll liken it to the entire season of Dallas that was just a dream and never really happened. Last year was a nightmare.
Oh, and 2nd team punter & kicker? Um, okay.

by Mtndancer on Aug 3, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Hartsock will be the 2nd FB on the depth chart...

But will be used as a FB on 3rd and short situations when the defense knows we’re going to run.

It’s just a smart use of the rule “Don’t use two people for two things if one person can do both effectively”.

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by BW Smith on Aug 3, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is kind of tall for a FB

But if he’s a better lead blocker then I feel the same way, LP.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and too slow

i think there’s a reason why teams dont put 270 lb guys at FB very often. if they are slow they will be in the tailback’s way, IMO. hartsox will be used at FB in short yardage and goal line

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or as the 3rd TE. But I’d like them to actually make Bernie or Ziemba the 3rd TE (but put him next to the tackle) in the goal-line set

That way you could put Hartsock in the backfield, as you said.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also... and who knows...

Hartsock might be hiding some pass catching potential behind that “I will crush you” facade of his. You don’t get to be a TE at that size if you can’t catch the odd football.

I think we are going to see a lot of bootlegs near the end zone where Olsen, Shockey, and Hartsock all are on the field. Cam gets to roll out of the pocket and threaten to run it in, you gotta think on of the 3 of them will be open. Hartsock will be expected to make that catch.

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by Tater596 on Aug 3, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Auburn did that a lot with Cam...to validate your point (not that it needed validation).

His target who fits your description of Hartsock would be their TE Lutzenkirken. Think he wore #43.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lutzenkirken is an epic name.

I would buy a Lutzenkirken jersey.

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by BW Smith on Aug 3, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

I’m not sure if he’s still at Auburn, but he must be…otherwise we would have signed him. ;)

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're exactly right... Philip Lutzenkirken

His stats for 2010:

15 recs, 185yds, 5 TDs

Sounds to be like he was the big bruiser who got to catch the odd surprise pass. His 12.3 ypc is a testament to that.

Hartsock will be the same way. Defenses will forget about him until he catches one in the end zone.

Just like this TD pass from Cam to “Lutzie” to win last years Iron Bowl

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by Tater596 on Aug 3, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

How fast is he?

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by BW Smith on Aug 3, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

...

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

wating...

I don't always fail, but when I do...
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 3, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Faster than me.

So somewhere between… Free burrito fast and 2 for $2 sausage biscuit fast.

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by Tater596 on Aug 3, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

that really depends on who's making the burrito now doesn't it?

free taco bell burrito = slower than free Moe’s burrito

by Floods on Aug 6, 2011 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

MacBern

After his performance last year, I’m not against the idea of someone beating him out on this year’s roster. Who would be the prospects? The Auburn kid?

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

This is the only thing that would be worse.

An actual matador, instead of the pretend one we had last year.

He also has been known to imitate one of these……

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by ALAC on Aug 3, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

That is all.

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by BW Smith on Aug 3, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marc Bulger retired today

Wow, guess he really did want to start, wow wow

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Lawrence Wilson

Being a fairly low pick, I don’t see him being a lock until we hear something about him. Who will be his stiffest competition to beat him out?

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

OLB Jason Williams Would have Backedup Davis, But He's likely Going On the PUP List

Williams is a very good WLB (6-1, 246, 4.44-40), but he’s still recovering from his December torn ACL.

by PanthersRoar on Aug 3, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harris is more a SLB guy, if I recall

We picked up some Eagles OLB and also have the versatile big man Connor on the roster

by ppalm on Aug 3, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was upset when I read about Jason Williams still not being ready to go...

I really, really liked him. He would have been good TD insurance.

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by jamiedk on Aug 3, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said on the show last night...

I love switching Sherrod Martin and Charles Godfrey. I think both of them are better suited for it.

From the safety position review on 6/2:

“The answer is staring the organization in the face, and I hope it’s a move Coach McDermott makes… swap the two players. Sure, Sherrod Martin is a smaller player, but he plays far bigger on running downs that Godfrey. Conversely, Godfrey does have a knack for being opportunistic in the passing game, so why not move him to FS where he can use those skills more readily?”

by James Dator on Aug 3, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

So they did swap Godfrey and Martin's positions?

I guess I’m not as familiar with that position as the rest.

Last year Godfrey played SS and Martin played FS and they have now switched?

by MindMachine on Aug 3, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That appears to be what happened, yes.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wow. I didn't know that they were going to do that.

It makes sense. Godfrey is a coverage guy. Martin is a better all-around safety.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but you are always going to have Cover 1 and Cover 0 looks, too

And with those you have to know who is who.

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by ERL on Aug 4, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly my point, kind sir. :-)

Unless Meeks, Rivera, and McDermott come up with a brand new scheme, I don’t see us playing the standard Tampa 2. If you have the right players, it can be a beast of a system…but I don’t see us having the proper pieces. I expect a chaotic blitz system that will bring LB’s and DB’s straight to the QB on passing downs…and LB/Safety run blitzes a lot as well.

Does it really matter what we call Godfrey or Martin? I don’t think so. I think they are both adequate in pass coverage (different strengths…one ball hawking and one the better tackler), but if we’re getting the most out of confusing an offense, we’ll blitz them each equally and won’t label ’em so we keep it unexpected.

by Mr_Sticky on Aug 4, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know, honestly.

It depends on the system. But typically with a blitzing system like ours, your SS will more often blitz (because he’s a better tackler) and your FS will more often drop back (because he’s better in coverage). But that is just me commenting on a hypothetical, generic blitzing defense. I have no idea how we are going to do it, other than watching some Philly and some Chargers games last year.

From those observations, it looks like BAMF’s safetys were more interchangeable (Weddle and Gregory).

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by ERL on Aug 4, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omar Gaither

I hope this kid gets some PT. I don’t know if it’s been mentioned or not, but he went to Myers Park High School and had some good years in Philly. I love seeing some home grown talent doing well in the bigs. Especially when it’s someone i got to see play in high school.

by BeerRunner on Aug 3, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

im sure he sees the field i just dont know how much. Beason said he was excited to have him on the team and really liked what he saw from him in Philly.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 3, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Primary backup at MLB and SLB.

And he’s insurance in case they decide to move Connor.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

doubt if gaither would be backup at MLB, that would be connor

but defly makes connor more expendable now that we have him, agree with you there

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops. I put the cart before the horse.

He’d be the primary backup at MLB if Connor is traded. He would be a primary backup at either MLB spot in our 3-4 look, too.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That says a lot when the heart and soul of this defense, and team, is excited to have you on the team.

by BeerRunner on Aug 3, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

No room for injury on OL or secondary....

I certainly never hope anyone gets hurt however it does happen.

by docnolz on Aug 3, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

i tend to agree with you on OL depth, unless

our two draft picks pan out and can play. so time will tell

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nick Hayden????

WHY IS THIS GUY STILL AROUND!?

I pray that he’s gone before the regular season starts, because I don’t feel so good about our depth at DT if he’s the best 3rd or 4th guy they can find. We’ve all seen what happens when Hayden is on the field.

A credible source has told me Hayden uses Heelys for cleats that’s why he gets man handled at the line. Here is a photo of the source:

by JAKE_OB on Aug 3, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, honestly they would probably do some shuffling again.

Unless Ziemba shows them he can handle it.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

schwartzy is otah's backup

so the bench guy would come in at RG. roll tape from last year, u know the drill

by revdwl34 on Aug 3, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flagged!

JK.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The downside of having a lot of big money starters at a position

Is you usually have to either sacrifice solid depth or sacrifice another position. I think that’s where we are on the OL, having over $20m/yr tied up in three players.

by ppalm on Aug 3, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

UDFA OT/OG Byron Bell Could Be In The ROT Mix As Well

OT/OG Byron Bell (6-5, 339, 5.40) could also be in the mix at ROT and ROG.

by PanthersRoar on Aug 3, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Good point.

Dude is enorgantic.

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by ERL on Aug 3, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gettis has size....

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by MikeTrain on Aug 3, 2011 10:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think Gettis is slighty better at running routes.

But Lafell is better at the YAC.

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by ERL on Aug 4, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll admit, I'm talking out of my ass right now (don't smell my breath)

…but I thought the knock on Gettis was his route running and hands. LaFell, was supposed to be the more polished receiver with blocking skills, but without blazing speed.

Then again, what players are supposed to be doesn’t factor into what they are once they get here. :-)

by Mr_Sticky on Aug 4, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I saw last season...

Gettis is actually better at running some of the short/intermediate routes. But he never really broke any tackles.

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by ERL on Aug 5, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

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