What does the lack of urgency at WR say about the Panthers coaching staff?
by James Dator on Aug 12, 2011 11:39 AM EDT
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PrintIn the wake of David Gettis' season ending injury Carolina Panthers fans have been scrambling to make sense of the WR position, one that now seems decimated for the 2011 season. This perception seems to be a lot further away from the thinking of the coaching staff who seem quite content to roll the dice and let the chips fall where they may, at least for now.
Wide receiver now marks the third position at which most feel the Panthers are overlooking. The cornerback position hasn't truly been solidified with a true veteran presence, despite the signing of Chevis Jackson while at defensive tackle the team seem content to allow Sione Fua to play nose tackle after putting FA signing Ron Edwards on IR. The same now seems to be happening for the WRs.
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While there were some initial reports the Panthers were inquiring about Lee Evans of Buffalo, ultimately it seems this was a passing fancy at best.
Steve Reed
As per WR Lee Evans, I'm told the Panthers are not going to trade for him. Never serious interest.
One would think that a team who was truly concerned about their WR situation would have some 'serious interest' in a former 1,000 yard wide receiver. So, what is the real situation here? Are the Panthers showing a great deal of faith in their young receivers, or does the lack of concern really project a lack of faith in David Gettis?
I understand the gravity in that statement as I have been one of Gettis' biggest proponents since he became a Carolina Panthers, however, Ron Rivera and company just don't have the same level of trust in Gettis that the fan base does. Panthers' fans developed a fondness for him after he wound up being one of the few bright spots in the 2010 season, but he's been very lackluster in training camp thus far; not just because of performance but in attitude. Granted, he was slated to start the first pre-season game, but this doesn't reveal anything long term about Rivera's plans at the position; in fact, Steve Reed believes Legedu Naanee will be the #2 receiver this season despite being the #4 WR in tomorrow's game.
Steve Reed
Here's how I view the Panthers depth chart at WR: 1. Steve Smith, 2. Legedu Naanee, 3. Brandon LaFell, 4. Armanti Edwards, 5. Kealoha Pilares, 6. David Clowney, 7. Wallace Wright, 8. Charly Martin, 9. Darvin Adams, 10. Trent Guy, 11. Jamorris Warren, 12. Brandon Smith. Think they'll keep six.
Sure, this is just Reed's view, but given Naanee's familiarity with Chudzinski it would seem the most plausible situation. The main problem is that Rivera has been looking for someone to step up and act like they want to have the #2 spot at receiver. He was hoping either David Gettis or Brandon LaFell would show they wanted the job, but neither really separated themselves from the pack.
So, here we are. Less than 36hrs from the first pre-season game and the Carolina Panthers look shaky at WR, but the coaching staff don't seem to be concerned. I don't want to harp on the 2007 Cleveland Browns too much, but it is important to note that the #2 WR on that team was Joe Jurevicius with just 614 yards. There wasn't a true need for a 800-900 yard receiver opposite Braylon Edwards (who had 1,289 yards) and Kellen Winslow at TE (who had 1,106 yards). Perhaps the modus operandi for the Carolina Panthers will be to turn the passing game into the Smitty and Olsen show, as it stands the lack of concern at WR supports this notion.
At least, that's what we should hope for... because otherwise it could get ugly.
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I think we are going to run the ball...a lot.
And people forget that we have two TEs who can make plays in the passing game. I think with those two things, Naanee, AE, Lafell, Clowney, Pilares, etc. can all fill in the rest.
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by ERL on Aug 12, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Shockey was a beast when he was healthy. Maybe a few good #3’s is all we need besides Steve when we have those two TE’s.
by William Ryan Harrell on Aug 12, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup.
I think losing Gettis is somewhat inconsequential. Now do we still need some help at DT? Hell yes…don’t know much about the new guy, Robinson.
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WR is third most pressing need, IMHO
Chud basically used two WRs in Cleveland—Braylon Edwards and Joe Jurevicious. He also used his backs and Tight Ends. We’ve got Smith, Olsen, Shockey, and Williams who are reliable. I firmly believe that between the logjam at number two someone will emerge.
So I would look at shoring up the CB spot first, and then DT. Once we’re comfortable in those areas, maybe I would turn my attention back to WR.
And note that we’re no longer a zillion dollars under the cap.
by Cyberjag on Aug 12, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
bingo
I think you’re right on the money. I have little doubt Naanee can get us the 500-600 yards needed to fill that #2 role, or have a group of players get those yards.
by James Dator on Aug 12, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
+1 and Rec'd
This is how I see it too. Between our backs, Steve Smith, and our TE’s I don’t see a need for another high end pass catcher. I fully believe someone will emerge after the pre-season as the clear #2.
I am still very scared about our CB and DT situations.
This comment section has officially been Tater'd.
Williams isn't a very good receiver out of the backfield imo.
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Williams hasn't been used to that extent since he entered the league. However....
…Williams is the all-time leader in all-purpose yards from his college career. The guy knows how to handle swing passes, just hasn’t seen many of them under Fox & co.
I've seen him drop too many passes to be confident in his receiving ability.
That said, yes I’d look to get the ball in his hands in space this season. Something Fox rarely allowed.
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Yeah, he has dropped quite a few easy balls over the years here
I think given the new scheme it will be practiced more and hopefully he’ll return to form.
We have the types of personnel that are required to make Chuds offense a success. There is a reason why we signed Shockey and traded for Olsen. They are integral parts of his offense (as well all know).
Would it be nice to have a true #2? Sure, but Cyberjag is correct in that WR is low on the totem pole in terms of importance. A true #2 guy at WR simply isn’t needed in this offense.
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So, is there a lack of motivation and attitude with both LaFell and Gettis?
From what I have read, it seems as though they are only shells of themselves from last year. Any thoughts?
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Aug 12, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions
We didn’t hear about either having much drive during camp last year either. Smitty was upset the young guys weren’t listening to him, and until an amazing preseason game three from Gettis many thought he could be a camp casualty.
by James Dator on Aug 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Rookie attitude IMO
They came into the league and got to be starters pretty quickly which spoiled them. So this year they came back without enough preparation or motivation
by pantherdiehard on Aug 12, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
We haven't heard much from them for sure
The names I keep hearing at WR are Edwards, Clowney, and Naanee.
This comment section has officially been Tater'd.
Pilares too… he’s been making a name for himself recently at camp
by James Dator on Aug 12, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know about James but I've seen him brought up a number of times by
beat writers and former beat writers that have a hobby of covering the Panthers.
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Yeah, this is all I meant
As the beat writers have been tweeting they’ve said good things about Pilares the last few days
by James Dator on Aug 12, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been hearing a lot about Pilares lately too..
He’s a special teamer too, so I think he has a great shot at making the roster. Ready to see what Armanti is looking like too, as he’s been much talked about in camp..at least he was early on..
by Ryan439 on Aug 13, 2011 2:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No panic needed, yet
I hope that the reason the BAMF running this team aren’t shopping for WRs is because these young guys are living up to their potential and exceeding the expectations of the coaching staff. Honestly there have been a large number of proven vet WRS who have been picked up fairly cheap: D.Mason, B. Edwards, Burress, TO (still out there), S. Smith, Cotchery. Yet we’ve only made small splashes in WR market based, I think, on the promise of the young guys on our roster. Gettis and LeFell finished last season as one of the few bright spots, but they have to understand every receiver not named Steve Smith came to camp with the same shot at the No. 2 WR spot and all of these guys should be playing to unseat the guy at the No. 1.
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by bleed_in_blue on Aug 12, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad we didn't sign Steve Smith Jr.
Things would just get way too confusing.
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by KaiserBromley on Aug 12, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
For sure, if you want to stay high on the depth chart you need to have a good work ethic
Smitty has made his mark by playing with intensity and always having something to prove. These kids need to understand that nothing is ever handed to them. Now, AE has made improvements and it seems Naane is making a case for the #2 slot. Tomorrow night’s game will be interesting. Since Gettis is injured, LaFell is the only one who can go out there and prove he does belong. But he will need to make some serious noise during the preseason.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Aug 12, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
DT is a more pressing need right now, followed by CB
Besides, we see what we have on the roster in preseason, then wait for cuts and pick someone up at WR if we think they are a fit and the need is there. I think the moves to get Naanee and Olsen more or less meant Gettis wasnt going to get as many balls thrown his way as he did last year anyway.
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I think you guys are going to be surprised by Naanee
I think one of the biggest reasons we’re not shopping for a wide receiver right now is because of what they’ve seen in Naanee. I also don’t think the Jurevicius comparison is applicable because Joe is an aging possession receiver, whereas Legedu is a speed receiver and big play-maker in his prime. I think he will be a bigger threat in the #2 spot than Joe Jurevicius was in Cleveland. I’m looking for big things out of Legedu this year.
by pancanbra on Aug 12, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
It's not a matter of comparing Legedu to Joe
But rather pointing out that Chudzinski didn’t have a huge reliance on the #2 receiver that year. Yes, he was an aging possession guy but the playcalling wasn’t directed at him at all.
by James Dator on Aug 12, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
plus
all we’ve really needed is consistency- someone who the defense will know will make a play. That can open up Smitty- whether it’s one guy or 3, doesn’t matter, WR, TE, RB’s, somebody consistantly making a catch with a little extra YAC thrown in, to get the extra eyes off of Smitty every now and then.
Yes, but maybe the #2 WR wasnt a big part of the offense that year because the #2 WR was an aging Joe Jurevicous.
If Chud designs his offense to play to the teams strengths and for big plays, Joe J wouldnt have fit those bills. Naanee and Gettis (if he wasnt hurt) could fit the bill for being a strength with big play ability..
by Ryan439 on Aug 13, 2011 2:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you look at Norv Turner offenses throughout his history #2 receivers were physically gifted
receivers that stretched the field and created space without big numbers. The #1 WR and TE pile up stats and the #2 helps make it happen by being a legitimate threat. Naanee reminds me of an early Alvin Harper, an incredibly gifted and underrated WR with limited numbers.
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by Vagus on Aug 12, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
there are 11 guys on that list behind Smitty. It would just take 1 or 2 of those guys to decide they are serious about making plays, and being on the field for a reason- the advantage to us would be at this point, they wouldn’t be taken seriously by other defenses early on, which could lead to big plays. But a fire has to be in someones belly, and they’ve got to put it out there on the field with consistency
You can't fix everything in one off-season.
Patience is a virtue. We can solidify our weakest areas in the coming seasons. We’re not expecting to be Super Bowl contenders anyway.
by Panthers FTW on Aug 12, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
But that doesn't mean we don't want to be
If they could get better talent to help the team at a low prica and stay under the cap then why not. If I’m not mistaken that’s what the Patriots did a few years ago when they were building and look where they are now
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by BlackCatFan on Aug 12, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Cornerback scares me more than DT
But each team is going to have to cut 37 players within the next 3 weeks so there will be options out there if who is in-house cant cut it.
Question
Does anyone know of any decent CBs or DTs that are in Jeopardy of being cut that we could sign when the 53-man cuts come down?
by ATL_Panther_Fan on Aug 12, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
DT's & CB's On The Roster Bubble
S Taylor Mays (6-3 1/8, 230, 34 inch arms, 10 1/4 inch hands, 4.31-40, 1.45-10, 24 bench reps, 41 inch vertical, 10-5 broad jump) has slipped to 4th on the 49ers depth chart at SS, and let all 31 other teams know he’s available in trades. He was their #49 pick in 2010, but reports are that ex-Head Coach Mike Singletary was the only one who wanted to draft him. Many believe Mays is a better NFL fit at OLB, but DC Vick Fangio said he will only play him at S. He’s not a CB, but as a backup S he could free up Goodson, Martin, or Pugh to play CB.
CB Darius Butler (5-10 3/8, 183, a Combine 4.52-40, a Pro Day 4.32-40, 1.46-10, 43 inch vertical, 11-2 broad jump, 7.06 3-cone drill, 4.13 20 yard shuttle) was the Patriots #41 pick in the 2009 draft, but has dropped to 5th on the Patriots depth chart at CB.
CB/FS Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (6-0 1/4, 207, 32 1/2 inch arms, 9 1/8 inch hands, a Combine 4.47-40, a Pro Day 4.30-40, 1.53-10, 21 bench reps, 35 1/2 inch vertical, 10-0 broad jump, 6.94 3-cone drill, 4.05 20 yard shuttle) was the Cowboys #126 pick in the 2010 draft, but was placed on IR early in the season. He’s now 3rd on the Cowboys depth chart at FS.
CB Leodis McKelvin (5-10 1/4, 190, 4.38-40, 1.43-10, 17 bench reps, 38 1/2 inch vertical, 10-1 broad jump, 7.06 3-cone drill, 4.10 20 yard shuttle) was the 11th pick in the 2008 draft, by the Bills, but he’s 3rd on their depth chart at CB.
Mays is the one likely to be cut, but the 49ers seem to be willing to take almost anything for him, so it’s likely he will be traded before the final cuts. The 3 CB’s are all trade targets who most likely won’t be cut. Darius Butler may be the most likely to be traded, and the Patriots usually don’t overprice their players. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah might be the cheapest, but he’s also the least experienced, and less likely to be traded, because the Cowboys 2 starting CB’s are injured. Leodis McKelvin wouldn’t come cheap (maybe Bernadeau and a 2nd round pick), because they would take a big cap hit to trade him, with his 2011 salary only $1,007,500 on a 5 year $19.4 million contract, so a trade is unlikely.
The Panthers need a veteran DT or 2, but the ones with experience are over the hill, and the younger ones may have a few years of experience, but little actual playing experience.
NT Pat Williams (6-3, 317) of the Vikings is a free agent, with 14 years of experience, who is still a great run stopper. He still want’s to play (though he faces a 4 game suspension), but would he be willing to play for the team that had the NFL’s worst record last season, or wait for a likely playoff team that suffers an injury later?
NT Jemal Williams (6-3, 348) ex-Charger and ex-Bronco has 14 years of experience, and I believe is a free agent, but he’s running on empty now.
NT Chris Baker (6-2 1/4, 326, a Combine 5.02-40, a Pro Day 4.94-40, 1.65-10, 35 1/2 inch vertical) of Hampton was projected as a 2nd round pick in 2009, but like a lot of Hampton players fell in the draft, and was signed as a UDFA by the Broncos, then cut last year. He was then signed by the Dolphins, but they cut him a week or 2 ago, and no one has signed him yet.
DT/DE Alex Magee (6-2 5/8, 298, a Combine 5.01-40, a Pro Day 4.82-40, 1.66-10, 30 bench reps, 29 1/2 inch vertical, 8-9 broad jump, 7.52 3-cone drill, 4.65 20 yard shuttle) was the #67 pick of the Chiefs in 2009, but was cut last season, and signed by the Buccaneers. He’s only had 7 or 8 tackles each season, but his workout numbers are virtually the same as the Panthers #65 pick this year Terrell McClain. He’s almost a sure cut.
DT Marcus Harrison (6-2 3/4, 317, 5.02-40, 28 inch vertical, 9-0 broad jump, 7.55 3-cone drill, 4.54 20 yard shuttle) the #90 pick of the bears in 2008, is almost a lock to be cut. His production has gone down each year, and he’s now 6th on their depth chart at DT.
by PanthersRoar on Aug 12, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The Panthers...
Have definitely hurt themselves by never finding that true, clear cut #2 WR to replace Moose. They should have been looking for that guy for years – Jarrett clearly was not the answer when he couldn’t bother to learn the playbook, and racked up more DUIs than TDs in three freaking years. The Panthers should have been looking for a clear QB for the future years ago. They had to have known Jake wouldn’t last forever, and it was just reckless to think you could follow up one undrafted QB with another.
We have gotten some good players in that time frame, but they’ve also made some less-than-desirable moves (trading a 1st round pick for a 2nd rounder who’s currently 3rd, about to be 4th on the DE depth chart, and trading a 2nd round pick for a 3rd round project). I do think that they’ve put themselves behind the 8 ball in some areas.
I know that we still don’t have that obvious #2 WR, and ideally, you want one that you know can fill that #1 spot when Smitty no longer puts on that Panthers uniform. But, because of the new creative offensive scheme and creative coaching staff, and because of the addition of Olsen, I don’t think it’s going to kill us this year. I might seriously consider going for a WR with our 1st round pick next season. I think we will win more games than last year, and I don’t think we’ll end up with the worst record. But I do think we’ll be in the top 10, and we likely could land Alshon Jeffery or Justin Blackmon. I think both of those guys will be dynamic. Of course, someone might surprise us and really step up into that role so that we can go with another position, or we may be able to land a high-end WR in the free agency period following this season. Eventually, the team is going to be forced to find high-end WRs, but I don’t think it’s the top priority right now with this new offensive system. And like PanthersFTW said, you can’t fix everything in one offseason.
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by jamiedk on Aug 12, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My thoughts EXACTLY
i mean seriosuly. Dwayne Jarret, Keary Colbert, Drew Carter… we have had NO luck drafting WRs. And by all reports LaFell is about to be added to that list of under-performing WRs. I do think that our #2 reciever is really Greg Olsen, as in he will be targeted the 2nd most other than Smitty. And Im sure D-Lo wont have the 100+ catches that Tomlinson used to put up in SD, but he should be around 50 or so. With all that said, i cant help but be a little nervous about our WRs. God forbid, but if Smitty goes down we are SCREWED. The last thing our rookie QB needs is 8-9 men in the box every play. I think we should make a run at Lee Evans, but thats already been shot down. Soo we wait til next years draft…
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I don't think it's a lack of luck.
It’s a flaw in our scouting programme (which I think is actually really good btw). They all had flaws and obviously those flaws were too big to overcome at the NFL level.
Jarret was sloooooow, Colbert had horrible hands and Carter had two dodgy knees AND horrible hands (although he was a flier).
I’ve been impressed with LaFell and Gettis, especially considering where they were drafted. Hopefully at least one of them turns into a good receiver for us. Lord knows we need one.
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WTF is Baltimore doing?
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 12, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Forgot about his release.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 12, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you see
Last Nites game??
Good move for Bmore.
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I have a question...
how is Lafell all of a sudden a flop? He really started doing well towards the end of last year and he’s been injured half the camp..I think that’s why he’s not sticking out. I think the organization knew we weren’t great at drafting WRs…that’s why they took the shotgun approach last year….drafting 3 receivers (one of them Has to be good)
Rocking the boat and righting the ship! Making the moves needed...Go Panthers!!!
He was not good last training camp and was questionable at the start of the season
IRC he was drafted as someone who could block but had trouble catching (What I want in my wide RECEIVER). He has an injury that is more easily explained by lack of conditioning rather than playing too hard. Plus, his twitter feed was not nearly as focused on preparing during the offseason as Beast or AE’s. He just seemed to be enjoying being wealthy rather than working.
I don’t think we are screaming “Bust!” yet, but LaFell has not been living up to his potential. There is not a lot of time for him to get it in gear before he is replaced by someone who wants it more and will work hard for his spot.
Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.
I wonder if Rivera & Co believe in the 3 year thing?
If LaFell fails to live up to expectations this year, does he get a third?
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Probably
He has shown signs of being a very good WR, and they know that he was not in the best situation last year and still did a pretty good job. I’m sure they will keep him and tell him to work his ass off over the summer like AE did this year.
We got burned by “Him” and Rivera doesn’t seem to be a guy with a lot of patience for slackers. That being said, if LaFell shows that he is willing to do what is expected to work on his craft I would thing Rivera would keep him. But he won’t be starting.
Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.
Maybe LaFell should work on his craft rather than clubbing every night
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by KaiserBromley on Aug 12, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
How is it
That everyone was so high on AE, but now that Gettis is down, people hit the panic button? Relax people. We haven’t played our first preseason game. Give these guys a chance to prove themselves. No, we didn’t plan for a future QB, but Jake took us from a Super Bowl to a 12-4 record in ’08. Under Fox I might add. Give this new regime a chance to prove itself before chastising them.
Somebody help me out
I want to buy a few tickets to a couple games this season, but I’m not sure of the layout. Which side is the “home field”? Is it the side at the top of the pic or the bottom? I would like to buy my tickets where I can watch the players on the sidelines as well as watch the action on the game.
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by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 12, 2011 12:14 PM EDT reply actions
You want to sit on the south side (shade) during the summer/fall
and the North side (sunny) in the cold months.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 12, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And South side is the home sideline.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 12, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, BBA
+1
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by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 12, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
BBA still no email on that LG
This has been a public service announcement.......
by CaptainPanther on Aug 12, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
What is your enail again?
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 12, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It says there's only so much you can address in one off season.
Plus I feel everyone is panicking for no reason. We have talent at CB and WR, they’re just inexperienced.
This is definitely an evaluation year for the coaches. We’re not going to the playoffs – so it’s time to bed in the new philosophies and see what we have on the roster.
Next off season is when I see them targeting specific positions of weakness.
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Who's not going to the playoffs!!!
We’re going to the playoffs until we don’t go. I’m a die hard fan and not saying that you’re not , but every teams record is 0-0 right now. I feel we have enough talent to compete week in and week out. That being said I believe we make the playoffs.
You may say you’re thinking realistically… but so am I.
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by Caro2daheart... on Aug 12, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully one of the wideouts will flash
My money is on Nannee an Clowney although LaFell would be the safer bet. I just like underdogs better. I agree the need is lessened by our talented TEs and RBs. I think the unknown wideouts will find themselves wide open down field many times this year. I just hope our Qbs can find them.
Sorry
My mistake. I felt that Naanee was one of the best Pick-ups by the Panthers this year. Stuck in KC country I get to see a lot of SD. WR is the 1 position I am def.comfortable with in Carolina.
I love the Naanee signing too...
I think he was vastly underrated in SD, and being in KC you know what he did to them week one of last year.
I’m not quite comfortable enough to say I have faith in the position, because it still relies on a lot of factors, but I like the WR group better than the DTs right now.
by James Dator on Aug 12, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't have 8
In the box and Doulbe Smitty and Naanee All at the same time. So i think the biggest concern will be the O-line allowing Clausen enuf time to get rid of it. IF Jimmy is the man??
I Expect A Lot Of 2 TE, 2 WR, & 1 RB Sets This Season
I may be wrong, but I expect to see a lot of 2 TE’s (Olsen & Shockey), 2 WR’s (Smith & Naanee), and 1 RB (Stewart or Williams). A balanced O-Line, with TE’s on both ends will make both QB’s feel more secure in their pass protection, and the TE away from the side a running play is directed can go in motion to the other side as an extra blocker. they might even like this formation well enough to keep Gary Barnidge on the roster as a 3rd receiving TE, with Hartsock as the blocking TE, backup FB, and H-Back.
Naanee will likely be the starting “big” WR, because of his speed advantage over LaFell, with either David Clowney (the 6th WR) of Wallace Wright (the 7th WR) as their backups, but if the Panthers decide to carry 4 TE’s, then they will likely only carry 5 WR’s. The “speed” WR will be Steve Smith, followed by Armanti Edwards (4th WR), and Kealoha Pilares (5th WR).
by PanthersRoar on Aug 12, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
This is also a great set against the 3-4...since every defensive player on the front 7 is 'covered up.'
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Not too worried
The best fit for the scheme at #2 is a big, fast WR. Gettis did fit that mold, but so does Naanee and Clowney. To me, that’s the depth chart at #2 and those two should fill in fine. Edwards and Pilares would fall in behind Smith, and LaFell is moved around as a role player for goal line & possession plays.
I'm not happy about the Gettis injury........
but it actually eases my biggest concern at the WR position. That concern was that we were going to have to cut a good player or try to stash Pilares on the practice squad. (He would get signed by another team very quickly). All of the guys listed above are capable and I’m looking forward to seeing them play.
One thing that I am getting a little tired of reading is this………
Rivera has been looking for someone to step up and act like they want to have the #2 spot at receiver.
This has been stated by a couple of reporters in the last week or so. I just don’t buy it. I think this was more of a mind game by the coaching staff than actual disbelief in their abilities. If Rivera doesn’t think Gettis can play, then he and I have had our first disagreement.
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by ALAC on Aug 12, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed on the last part.
Spunds like the old carrot and stick motivation technique.
by Panthers FTW on Aug 12, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He seems like a tough coach. I like it.
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by OldhamA on Aug 12, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do to.
Just getting tired of media not being able to differentiate between tough coach speak and doubt at the position.
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by ALAC on Aug 12, 2011 1:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This'll only mean something to James:
England 707-6 against India (with Cook 7 away from 300). Apparently they’re the best Test side in the world…
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I'll agree, for now... as much as it pains me to say
But don’t worry… we’ll be back
by James Dator on Aug 12, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Not for a while.
Cook out on 294 – basically he got bored of India putting EVERYONE on the boundary. God they’re awful.
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Main problem is we don't have any decent leg spinners
That coupled with the fact Brett Lee is getting old and we’re behind the times.
That is a pretty low move by India though
by James Dator on Aug 12, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
In tests, yeah...
He still plays one day. I was talking about the state of Australian cricket as a whole
Fair enough. King pair for Sehwag. Hilarious.
And tbf you were the best team for a decade. You’ve had your time in the sun. ;-)
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This whole sub-thread is in a different language.
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by ERL on Aug 12, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I did enjoy reading it, though..
A very long “what… the…. ****….” as I attempted to comprehend what was being said.
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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 12, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Basically - England are going to win.
The ‘King Pair’ thing means that Sehwag (that’s an Indian batsman) got out for 0 in both innings.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Indeed… and getting out for 0 in both innings is the equivalent of striking out on three pitches about 5 straight at bats… it’s pretty pathetic
Interesting.
Gotta love the diversity of CSR, I get to learn about a sehwag batting a kings pair or something. This place never gets boring. lol
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Every hear of a "Golden/Platinum/Titanium Sombrero"?
It’s when a baseball player strikes out 4/5/6 times in a single game…..
by panthersnbraves on Aug 12, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You had me scared for a moment..
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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 12, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
to be more accurate
that’s a pair.
King Pair is the special case where you have two first ball ducks (0s) which is what Sehwag had in this Test
/I’ll stop now
Yeah....
…Heath was always the best at jockying the squam around the hitches.
(pure BS…just felt like throwing in nonsense since the rest of this conversation was nonsense to the rest of us)
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
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by The Duke Dude on Aug 12, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait until you are in India
we’ll find a crumbler or two for you to play on.
That said, I never did believe India was the best Test side. England has a good team and so does South Africa. Australia is going through a rebuilding phase.
+ cook
You guys are english? The CSR community is alive and well in the uk! If calsberg did cricket teams….
by LimeyPanther on Aug 12, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh wait your aussie's arent you?
In that case….. In your face!!!! So sweet to retain the ashes, don’t worry lads…. One day you’ll be good again…. Maybe
by LimeyPanther on Aug 12, 2011 6:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So we play for trophies..
And you guys play for ashes? Don’t tell this woman.
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Do you know..
How hard it is to tell the difference between pom and porn at a glance? For a moment, I’m thinking Oldham’s a porn star.
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lol, I had to have a double take on that as well.
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same here, lol
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Cricket.
England vs. India match.
That’s all I’m getting though.
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by Flowing Willow on Aug 13, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
First off, I think I am comfortable with the players we have.
Now that i said that, I want to know this. Why are people suddenly thinking the Panthers need to go out and sign another vet receiver? They all criticized Fox for not playing Edwards last year. Now is the chance for Edwards to play. He has even shown improvement since last season and if they thought he should have played last year, he surely should be playing this year right?
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I am much much more concerned with the CB position. I love Cap but I’m not sure he is big enough to handle the #2 WR for many teams, especially with how much godfrey struggles get over to the play in time, it has me worried. DT I’m a little worried about, if Nick Hayden starts this year then we are in trouble…he work hard, he just simply isn’t very good. While it sucks that Gettis is gone for the year, he showed so much promise last season, we will be able to absorb that injury much easier. B LaFell, A Edwards, Nannee, Pilares, etc etc, one of them has to step up, and I think one of them will.
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by SouthernPanther on Aug 12, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
Pressure on LaFell
Everybody keeps saying “someone” needs to step up into the #2 WR slot and that is true but Gettis was a 6th rounder! LaFell was a 3rd coming out of the SEC. This guy could and should be our #2! He has all the tools but maybe just lacks heart? Just thinks its odd more people don’t single him out when talking about “someone” needs to step up!
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b/c what round they were drafted in really matters?
LaFell apparently doesn’t work very hard, Gettis is just the opposite. I hope LaFell doesn’t step up, but that isn’t what I’ve heard from camp.
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by SouthernPanther on Aug 12, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope LaFell does* step up
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by SouthernPanther on Aug 12, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Olsen as WR
Read an interesting comment on another forum about running a 2 TE set with Shiockey or Barny as “true” TE and Olsen as a #2 or #3 WR. Pretty interesting to me as I always thought Olsen had the chops to be a top 5 TE in the league.
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Depends - do you consider Dallas Clark a "TE" or a "WR"?
and if so does that make Jimmeh a Manning? (I kid!)
by panthersnbraves on Aug 12, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Big blue dud
I got a google alert showing that the losers over at big blue have posted your responses to their 5 questions. They were good response, but the idiot comments below from the giant lambs had me rolling. They are such dorks.
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I did notice that.
Apparently they think we’re all clueless and giggle at us. That’s ok. We’ll fart in their general direction.
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
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by The Duke Dude on Aug 12, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
I don’t think they realize that we are headed toward the front and they are moving to the back. By mid season we pass them and next season we lap them. (Just some good Ol’ Nascar references from us necks down here!! – Que the Yosamite Sam Gun fire.)
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My dad has...
Yosamite Sam floor mats in his truck.
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
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by The Duke Dude on Aug 12, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
(Headline for hiding purposes)
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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 12, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's the most blatant headline I've ever read on CSR.
Rec’d just for that.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Haha
Classic – I think my dad once too.
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They’ve spent too much time listening to the national talking heads (you know, the ones that hate us).
Good call.
Lookin forward to Davis and Beason lightin up some fools.
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by The Duke Dude on Aug 12, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is Beason won't be playing tomorrow
Probably not till preseason game 2
not concerned
I think we’ll be fine. The new coaches haven’t seen Gettis in live action, so they don’t even have a feel for what we lost. They know he has no experience in this new offense, so it would be easier to role with Smitty, LaFell and Nanee, than pick up another guy and teach him. In a 4 receiver set, Olsen could be the 4th guy…he’s as fast as LaFell. We will run the ball alot, and I think we are deep at receiver. I really wanna see what JaMorris Warren can do. I wouldn’t be surprised if AE, Smitty, LaFell, NaNee, and Olsen have good enough seasons that last season ends up being Gettis’ only season playing for us. I beleive he’s a pro bowl talent, so I hope I’m wrong about that, but we have a lot of talent. We still have Pilares, Shockey, Barnidge, Clowney and Warren. I would even line Goodson out wide on occasion. Goodson in the slot could be very dangerous.
Off the Subject...
here, seeing what Ryan Mallet did for the Pats yesterday, you think if Carolina would have traded down (Bills would have made that move because they like Newton too) pick up a DT and get a another 2nd rd pick and next years 1st and pick up either Mallet or Kapernick (who I liked coming out). Pick up a free agent Vince Young or a Hasselbeck someone to groom or take control we would be in a lot better shape?? just a hypothetical..Should’ve, Would’ve, Didn’t.
Those same opportunities existed before the draft. It was never about what Mallett could do with his arm, but what they were afraid he put up his nose.
I don’t think he’ll ever be the face of a franchise, and that’s what the Panthers were looking for… even if he did look impressive against the Jags third team
I don't think so.
Everyone kind of ended up in the ideal situation… Carolina with Newton, Mallet on a team with no pressure, Young behind Vick… I wouldn’t change anything, if given the chance.
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Prolly did not want to move down
in the first place. Price would have been really steep because the Panthers really liked Newton.
We had been trying to trade down for weeks.
Never had any biters.
by Panthers FTW on Aug 12, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It was one preseason game.
And you are questioning whether we should have buyer’s remorse already?
No way in hell. Not two days ago somebody commented about how their buddy went to Pats’ camp and Mallett looked awful.
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by ERL on Aug 12, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We need to practice a little patience..
We were 2-14 last year, calm down, we’re in an extremely tough division, but we’re clearly headied in the right direction. I see us having 5-7 wins this year, which I think would be a success, then we’d be drafting in the Top 10 in next year’s draft. Putting us in a perfect position to draft one of the three guys I think we’ll need/go after, either WR’s Alshon Jeffrey or Justin Blackmon, or CB – Dre’ Kirkpatrick. So settle down this year guys, temper your expectations and just enjoy the small things this season. Because our future is extremely bright with Cam at the helm, and with our new HC and coordinators. Looking foward to this year and the years coming..
I have money on us having 6 wins this year - but then I blame Fox for everything.
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I think 4-6 games is a good place to put our expectations.
Actually, 6 wins would be a coup.
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I can respect that...
And I know I’m one of the more optimistic fans on here… I just keep pointing back to the history within our own division. Last year we handed our division rivals 6 games. How often does that repeat itself? Teams at the bottom usually rebound with a minimum of +5 game differential and as much as +7 game differential.
I’m not expecting a playoff run… but I think 5 wins would be a disappointment for this team. No way I would be satisfied with that. Of course, I’ll cheer them on each week regardless of the record.
by Fernando De La Cruz on Aug 12, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm definitely with you on our big fat division donut
No way do we get swept our NFC South rivals this season. We only even lost our first game to the Saints because of two horrible back to back plays towards the end of regulation that knocked us out of field goal range.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
This is a side note
Not that i get worked up about what Brad Evans thinks, but he is really bashing our organization with his 10 fantasy players he hates and one of them is Smitty. I am tired of Yahoo’s crap.
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I'm a homer, but
Panthers players do NOT make good FFL players. Steve Smith MIGHT have a decent year this year, but I have drafted him for the last 4 years hoping he would “shock” the world, but sadly he did not. Same thing with Williams and Stewart. they are both great backs, but they split the carries so much, you really can’t count on them for big numbers. The only player I would seriously consider drafting in this year’s draft is Olsen.
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by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 12, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Got that right..
I had 2 Panther players last year and they lead me right to 2nd to last place. lol
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Maybe Cam Newton as a backup QB
If he’s still there with one of your last picks…
His potential rushing yardage and TDs is what is appealing.
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You don't pick up a rookie QB in FF. Not if you want to win.
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Clearly you didn't read the comment, aside from the title.
If he’s still there with say the 15th pick, and you already have a proven starting QB, I’d take a flyer on him.
He’s better than some other options for a backup FF QB. Let me guess, you prefer Tavaris Jackson or Rex Grossman as your BYE QB?
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I read the entire thing. You still don't pick a rookie QB in FF.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
To each his own.
You’ve gotta have 2 QBs. Its Cam or its Rexy. You can have Rexy.
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I'm thinking the same thing you are...
It’s a risk/reward pick… if you pick him up late in the draft then the risk is low. There’s always going to be an “acceptable” option on the waiver wire if you really need a different QB… but if Newton takes over the starting role and puts up some decent numbers with rushing yards adding to his QB stats… I think you win out big.
Besides… if your late round picks make or break your team… you’re not doing it right.
by Fernando De La Cruz on Aug 12, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
His rushing ability makes him worth a flier.
But not until the picks before kicker, I’d say.
by Panthers FTW on Aug 12, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you.
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Hell
You give me the first pick in the draft, but let me take Cam Newton in the last round as my only QB and I could win…I am a FFL Legend around dease parts
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Thank you.
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Yeah
I was saying more, that I didn’t like his comments. He could have chosen better words. He said he was a waste of talent. Check it
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I agree
to an extent. It was the way he said it. I mean if your drafting Smitty in the top 4 or 5 rounds then you are probably are a homer. Steve shouldn’t be on the list because you shouldn’t be wasting a top fantasy pick on him any way. It’s his last comment that gets me “What an incredible waste of talent.”
I mean com’mon man. Waste of talent because he doesn’t provide you with fantasy points? I am sorry but what he does for this team is far more important than some fantasy ranking. That’s all I am saying.
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If Steve is an incredible waste of talent..
What does that make Evans? An incredible waste of no-talent? This one is confusing.
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Exactly.
You get where i am coming from.
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Panic is setting in before they even take the field
I think it’s a bit premature for fans to be heading into panic mode before the first preseason game. Even though JR opened his checkbook this year, I don’t think the front office is going to be able to address every single problem we have all in one abreviated offseason. This team is still young and I think the coaches are trying to get a feel for what we already have in hosue before giving away draft picks to bring in more players. This team will be improved, but not great. No matter what QB starts, they will still struggle at times. They may add some castoffs from other teams once cuts are made, but I doubt we’ll fill any of the needs at WR, DT, or CB by going out and making a trade. Not unless someone is giving a player away for a very low draft pick or a player we don’t need.
The down and dirty is...
we can’t address every need like the Eagles or Pats do…with short inexpensive contracts because of our record last year (and the past couple years for that matter) We aren’t looked at as a winning team right now. I believe if we show true promise..especially at QB play, we will start attracting big name talent..
Rocking the boat and righting the ship! Making the moves needed...Go Panthers!!!
Signing another WR
There is a very good WR still available. He release a video showing he is very very very close to 100%. His name is Terrell Owens. I know that he can and will be a head case, but he is productive and would be great opposite Smitty. Any thoughts on TO? I would be for it, just don’t think good ol’ JR will sign off on this one.
Noooooo thank you
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
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by The Duke Dude on Aug 12, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Very, very, very close?
He had surgery a few months ago (speculation as to when it actually happened is all over the place) for a torn ACL. I’m really not convinced that he will be ready for the season opener as his camp has insisted.
Oh and by the way, he’s 37, quite full of himself, and (most importantly) bringing him on board would stifle the growth of at least four promising young receivers for an entire season. See Weinke dog above for further thoughts.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Just a thought
fans have been scrambling to make sense of the WR position, one that now seems decimated for the 2011 season. This perception seems to be a lot further away from the thinking of the coaching staff who seem quite content
That’s why fans are fanatics and coaches coach. One doesn’t think because of emotion and the other is generally logical and methodical.
progress
I hope we do well but I feel loke thisyr will be about development for our young guys. However in that theme I think if we don’t have anyone step up big time as a wr we have a great opportnity for say alshon jeffrey out of sc. Nice fit to compliment smitty for a year our two and develop another smitty in the meantime.
by braves&panthers4ever on Aug 12, 2011 5:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Gettis was servicable
In a season of epic forgettable failure. I think Nanu will make folks stop crying over his being out. I think it opens up a spot for Clowney who I keep hearing mentioned in reports from camp. I wrote him off earlier but he might surprise us. Worst case scenario, as teams cut down for numbers and cap, we can pick up a veteran who can produce at that position while retaining the promising young guys we have.
Not worried, more excited
As has been stated, this offensive system has a history of getting several WRs looks and numbers, without the need of a true #2. We were sweating who we were having to cut before, now one of those bubble guys gets a chance to step in and make an impact. With Smith/Olsen/Shockey and this running game? I think we’ll be just fine with what we have at WR.
But man am I excited for tomorrow. I think this feeling of doom and gloom over injuries the past couple of days will dissipate once they step onto the field. The first game under a new coaching staff is a W more often than not, because everyone wants to show what they’re capable of, coaches included. I think this will look like a team that needs to improve in areas, for sure, but I think the product on the field will be much better than ANYTHING that they rolled out with last year, at least preseason wise. Fox never cared much for preseason, but Rivera has already said he wants to win…always. Looking forward to the Panthers marching out there, surprising the Giants (can you surprise in the preseason?), and more importantly, giving us our first taste of FOOTBALL for the year.
Here’s to a new season.
"We are what we are and that is what I'm trying to change so we're not that."
-John Fox on team's 0-3 start
I'm sad that Gettis went down
But by no means did I think we should go out and acquire anybody else. I’m glad we didn’t trade for Lee Evans. I lived in upstate NY for 7 years and he’s really just a one trick pony. Granted he never had legit QB play, but he was really only a deep threat. And he’s getting older so he’s going to lose his only weapon soon, speed. I have utmost confidence in Naanee. He was drafted late but moved up the depth charts in SD and performed admirably. Sure his numbers don’t look all that impressive, but there were only so many balls to go around with V-Jax, Gates, and Floyd around too. I think he’ll surprise many this year. I’m not concerned with WR to be honest. We may not have a rock solid #2, but we do have a stable of WR’s that have proven that can contribute in some capacity. IMO, you either need to have elites at the top of the depth chart, or solid depth, and we can at least say we’re solid at WR for now.
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by KaiserBromley on Aug 12, 2011 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
pilares on the practice squad?! are you crazy?
Pilares and naanee have one advantage over the other wr’s, they are part of the rivERA. BAMF had a part in their selection. They will both be on the team. Plus KP is stupidly fast. 4.4 at the combine, thomas davies said he was the fastest in the ota’s. I expect big things from him, maybe even this year as a slot player. Plus he is in the mold of 89, apparently too small for the nfl…. He’s gonna have a big ass chip on his shoulder.
by LimeyPanther on Aug 12, 2011 6:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Any chance we can get an open thread for tonight's games?
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Anybody go check out the 5 questions posted over at Big Blue View for Jaxon?
We got ripped a new one in the comments section (the word redneck) came up a few times.
Oddly enough a few of those yankee pricks couldn’t wait to see Cam Newton hit the field.
I’ll be in the 8th row tomorrow night, best seats I ever got, look for me to be heckling Giants fans in a blue 89 jersey.
by Swamp Panther on Aug 12, 2011 9:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I read the comments
and there were lots of folks saying we were bad-mouthing the Giants and calling them old. I’ve seen nary a disparaging word about the Giants, so I don’t know wtf they are talking about. Having traveled a lot/military days I’m used to the “dumb redneck” and “racist” generalizations from folks. I’m guessing there is irony in there somewhere…
It’s easy to find idiots anywhere I suppose.
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I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
I just finished rereading our Giants thread for that reason..
And I’m with you, can’t figure out what they’re looking at exactly.. Perhaps a bit delusional?
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You can find rednecks everywhere, too.
FWIW
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I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 12, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol, absolutely!
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
You guys were badmouthing the Giants. And honestly, they were right about the not knowing anything about their team thing, which is funny since people around here bitch about us being a small market team.
by SlayerGhaleon on Aug 13, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I must've completely missed it..
I’m not being sarcastic, or an ass, either, completely legit. I really only seen 1 comment that referred to the Giants. The rest were talking about random stuff. Were some comments removed? I just read the thread for the first time today. Or did I just miss some things skimming?
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Uhh, I don’t know where you were looking, but nobody really was badmouthing the Giants at all dude. Unless you count things like:
Just my thoughts…
But I think the Giants are on the way down. They are an older team that is losing talent not gaining it. It will be fun watching the game Sat between a very talented but youthful team vs an aging but experienced team.
as badmouthing. Or this:
Eli is the WRONG Manning. Their Secondary sucks and Prince is hurt. I just think they are going to have to go back into rebuilding mode very soon.
This was meant as a joke:
I know RIGHT!!!!
Little fucker comes in the league and plays a little bit & these retards want to crown his a THE Steve Smith. I don’t think so New Jersey Giants. We can throw down if we have to. I ain’t skeerd. What’s really funny is that now Eli Mannings two favorite targets are in Philly, Steve Smith and Asante Samuel.
So I don’t know where you getting this idea that we were “badmouthing” anyone. Perhaps you should recheck what people said. There were even some Giants fans who came over and commented (politely) and didn’t have a problem with what was being said.
Like I said, not sure where you are getting that idea from. Compared to the crap they are saying about us, our comments are basically praise.
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lol, that stuff is kind of badmouthing them
Not as bad as some but it is a little. I remember i replied saying maybe they helped their team by keeping their core like we did & not to count them out so fast.
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Well, if someone is going to blow a gasket over those kinds of comments they need to chill the F out. If you want badmouthing check out what the iggles and giants fans say to each other on a daily basis. That is badmouthing. This stuff here is nothing.
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I agree it wasnt too bad.
hell, if you really want to see badmouthing, go look at the “panthers fans” posts on the charlotte observer site.
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The best one is this:
You know its a good thing when you are dismissed by Panthers fans of all people. Those guys have seen so much bad, they really don’t know what good is, so in my eyes, its a good thing.
We’ve only finished with less than 4 wins three times in the team’s history, were in the NFC championship in the franchise’s 2nd season and in the Super Bowl 2 years after a 2-14 season. It’s not really a franchise that is accustomed to seeing bad. Plus, if we’re talking about seens bad player-wise, that’s laughable. We’ve had one of the best WRs and DEs of the decade, a duo to run for 1,000 yards each (albeit so has New York, but you’re kidding yourself if you thing Brandon Jacobs & Derrick Ward are on the level of DeAngelo and Stew) Plus, we had Sam Mills.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Aug 13, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Lemme throw a few more hundreds on that stack.
Double Trouble gave us 1,100 a piece…no other team in NFL history can make that claim.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
*Fail on placement of parenthesis
Heaven forbid I look like an uneducated redneck to uneducated Brooklyn trash.
by Swamp Panther on Aug 12, 2011 9:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm not sure we should be doing the same name type calling to them that we were up in arms about.
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I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 12, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed, no reason to stoop to that level
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
Bucs aren't looking bad, btw.
Blount makes me so mad the way he won’t just go down when he’s hit.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 12, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I tryd joining da lg it was full!
Oh well next time.
This has been a public service announcement.......
by CaptainPanther on Aug 12, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me see what I can do. I was under the impression 12 teams were allowed
and we only have 10. I’ll email you back when I have a minute to figure out what the issue is. Sorry, I’ve been swamped.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 12, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Did they already send out invites?
I played last year and replied this year to rejoin. If someone could tell me what’s up I would appreciate it.
Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.
Well then thanks guys. Appreciate that.
Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.
I did 2 weeks ago
That’s why I was surprised that I didn’t hear anything. Maybe Jaxon will reply to my email and let me know why I never heard back.
Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.
Last I heard..
Thought they were still filling leagues?
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I was going to post my thoughts on the Bucs, but I got sidetracked
Watching the Bucs tonight I get the impression their offense is going to be one of those maddeningly tough squads to get off the field. They have guys that make key plays at key times and keep moving the chains.
As for their defense, they aren’t as quick off the line as I figured they would be, and their linebackers seemed out of position on cutbacks quite a bit. There is a fair amount of room to run for a read offense against the defense I saw tonight.
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
Yeah, for the most part I wasn't too impressed with their D
KC just seemed like they weren’t moving the ball well.
But on the offense, good god they’re going to be frustrating.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 12, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ironic huh BBA
It won’t change anything to take the high road. A week after this game all will be forgotten on both sides and both teams will be off the radar for each other.
When we play again the redneck/yankee/loser/whatever will come back out. In the words of a dinosaur coach “It is what it is”.
by Swamp Panther on Aug 12, 2011 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Theyre resting Johnson also.
no Smith, Johnson, Beason, Davis, Hardy. Munnerlyn, Gamble, & Schwartz are questionable.
Thats according to an article from Person.
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Pretty good for a shortened period to practice..
Hopefully he was a victim of Fox and Davidson and we’ll see similar improvement with Clausen.
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Moore was not a victim of the coaching staff.
He was a victim of an injured front line that had players playing in positions they didn’t belong in. Moore had the same coaching staff when he won the games the year b4 last. Moore was starting to do well last year too when he got hurt.
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agree
Moore is doing well in Mia because his skill set translates better to that system than Henne’s since its the same system that he ran here. The funny thing is, by comparison, the Panthers are switching from the Patriots offensive system to the Chargers system. Clausen was trained in the Pats system in college which is why he was brought in last year. Everyone is going to have a rough adjustment period
I'm realizing more and more how much of a fan I am of Moore.
I really feel like he was a victim of our former system.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
I'd say it was a shame that we let him go...
But truthfully, I think he’ll be starting in Miami before half the season is up and I’d rather him start somewhere than sit behind Newton and possible Clausen here.
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by D-Ranged1 on Aug 13, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What's his competition down there, anyway?
hmmm…Chad Henne, Kevin O’Connell, Pat Devlin…yep, I like Matt’s chances, too. I’m sure we’ll see him at some point on the 19th.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Yup, that looks like the Matt Moore I remember.
Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.
Doing extremely well against a second unit in a meaningless game? Yeah, me too...
by James Dator on Aug 13, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, everybody's got his special talent.
Meaningless Matt – that’s his.
Absolutely
Jumpy Jimmy… the pass rush comes and he gives footballs to fans in the stands
by James Dator on Aug 13, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
At least he's considerate to the fans :)
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I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 13, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure he will ever be a first string QB
But he may be one of the best back ups in the league.
Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.
Mark it in your books - let's see who's doing better in, say, 3 years - Moore or Clausen.
My bet: Moore will be a starter, Clausen warming a bench at best.
(Hearing murmurs from the gathering crowd of torch-bearing villagers.)
I'd agree..
Clausen may yet still have some potential but we’ve seen what Moore does with a talented team around him.
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I would guess that it proves he at least has recovered from the injury.
A lot of people said he would not be the same after it.
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It's only because is preseason
doesn’t count.
by LovePanthers on Aug 13, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
For comparison purposes..
Henne went 4/8 77yds, 1 TD, 2 INT – 83.8.
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Anyone know where I can watch the game?
I no longer live in NC and I don’t feel like paying the $19.99 to watch a few quarters of quality preseason football (though I plan on getting NFL Sunday Ticket for the regular season). Does anyone know a free website or two that will have the game streaming LIVE online? My main website that I used last year was shutdown by the government. Imagine that. I don’t want to miss Cam’s Panther debut and I’m really pumped about Panthers’ football returning! Please help.
wow
I was typing this up just not and it was word for word the same…..minus the Direct TV part. Hook us up with some links please!
Here you go guys, enjoy it while it lasts.
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by MrBernz on Aug 13, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks!
I’m hoping it doesn’t get shutdown
by keebler elf on Aug 13, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Knowing what Homeland Security has done with the other sites like it, won’t be long before it is gone unfortunately.
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Why does Homeland Security give a crap about sports programming??
Am I missing something here?
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
It appears they are in charge of securing "cyberspace".
The Department has the lead for the federal government for securing civilian government computer systems, and works with industry and state, local, tribal and territorial governments to secure critical infrastructure and information systems.
The Department works to:
analyze and reduces cyber threats and vulnerabilities;
distribute threat warnings; and
coordinate the response to cyber incidents to ensure that our
computers, networks, and cyber systems remain safe.
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Lack of urgency???
How is the position over-looked when you bring 13 competitors to camp? I wonder how many gems drop through the cracks when you have that many warm bodies to review. Since Newton is clearly going to be our future at QB, I thought Adams was an execllent pick-up, but he may get lost in the shuffle.
My biggest concern is the unspoken, the forgotten third team – Special Teams. The only moves I have heard so far are to ditch Kasay and that Edwards can now catch a punt. I’m hoping some of these WR’s can tackle — remember Hankton?
Wouldn’t it be nice if someone could pull a reverse Hester and convert to a functional CB?
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