Kasay's impassioned letter to fans characterizes Panthers organization
by James Dator on Aug 10, 2011 9:29 AM EDT
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PrintA few weeks ago during CSR Radio I went on a small rant towards the end of the show about what this organization means to the fans and players. We should be thankful that Jerry Richardson has built an organization that is more family than buisness; not all teams can boast that their players are emotionally invested in their teams, both for the good and the bad. Over the years we've seen myriad occasions where players break down in tears, or lash out in anger when they leave this team, because strong bonds were built.
The original Panther John Kasay wrote an emotional letter to every member of CSR, to every PSL holder, to every fan who has ever watched him play and cheered him on and simply asked the Charlotte Observer to share his letter with the fans. In doing so he not only cemented himself as one of the greatest players to ever wear the Panthers uniform, but also as one of the classiest players in NFL history.
Dear Panthers Fans,
I wanted to personally write this letter to every Carolina Panther fan. Words cannot express how truly thankful my family and I are for the most wonderful 16 years of our lives.
We came to the Panthers as a young family with a 3-month-old baby. We leave with 4 children, 2 of whom are in high school. In between, you have loved and cheered and blessed us way more than we ever deserved.
It's easy to forget just how many life events a person goes through in 16 years, far more than staring at a long list of NFL season stats can ever tell you. As much as Kasay was our kicker it was Charlotte that became his home.
More of Kasay's letter after the jump
It is my hope that the greatest years in Panthers history are still to come. A franchise decorated with numerous Lombardi Trophies. Dozens of Hall-of-Fame players. And a region that swells with pride whenever they speak of their beloved Panthers.
Straight from John's lips to the football-god's ears on this one. It just shows the kind of man Kasay is to see past the tough business decision that resulted in his departure and still wish well for an organization, and fan base that has been at his side.
I pray that this will be a wonderful season and we will all get to watch the Panthers return to their rightful place as one of most feared teams in the NFL.
May God bless you. Thank you for the memories.
Blessings, John Kasay
God bless you and your family too John, than you for all the memories. I'm not sure what Canton holds, but regardless you're in our hall of fame and we hope your statue will soon adorn the grounds outside BoA Stadium.
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That is a man.
There are few left in the world. John will forever be remembered.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
Jerry, build this man a statue!!
I don't like leaving my own country, Doug, and I especially don't like leaving it for anything less then warm sandy beaches, and cocktails with little straw hats. - Snatch
by BanksyNC on Aug 10, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Great Idea !!!
But rather than Jerry doing it why don’t we fans setup a building fund for the statute. Couldn’t PSR be the base for such a fund?
I think John would really enjoy and cherish such an outflow from the fans.
Jim
by goofygolfer on Aug 10, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Aug 10, 2011 10:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Great idea, Rec'd
I would donate for sure.
by elgatonegro on Aug 10, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
This won't work...
…because I don’t think the ever-humble John Kasay would accept such a statue. He’s a deeply religious man. He doesn’t believe in casting idols in stone or metal. That goes double for himself. Honestly, even if the Panthers offered such a thing to him, I sincerely doubt he’d approve of it…or take part in it. It’s just not John’s style.
I see your point...
…and I agree he’d probably request that it not happen. But I think it would make him cry (in the beautiful way) should it happen. Who wouldn’t? It’s a tribute to his ability, his dedication, and his spirit.
The man is a class act, a stalwart, one of the best kickers EVER, and the original Panther. He carries the cross (apologies for this metaphor, especially since I’m not religious) Sam Mills had to lay down when cancer overtook him; and no person could have shouldered the burden better than #4.
I seriously hope Kasay knows how much Panthers fans love him…he’s the consummate kicker, player, silent leader, and man…and we were blessed to have had him as a Panther for so long. Most fans of other teams will never understand what it means to have that presence.
Kasay, you deserve every accolade that may ever come your way….and you will always be remembered by the Panther fans who grew up with you. You will always be an inspiration to us.
This is from the Charlotte Observer...
But for those who don’t go to the CO’s website, here’s a visual of the handwritten letter.
I will be incredibly disappointed if the organization doesn’t retire the #4 jersey. Those cleats are too big for anyone else to fill. (And please, no one turn that into a TWSS moment – not what I’m going for.)
"One play can win a game, but one play cannot lose a game." - Coach Peterson, Boise St.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
by jamiedk on Aug 10, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
TWSS is REALLY old and hackneyed now, IMO (thanks for nipping it in the bud, Jamie)...
…but this is a beautiful tribute to Panther fans who mostly believe he deserves a beautiful tribute, as well.
I’m not Christian…but I AM profoundly respectful of people who deserve it…and #4 deserves it. He’s a class act by ANY definition of the term. As much as you thank us, we hank YOU for the memories, Mr. Kasay. You’ve blessed us by your presence…I hope we can somehow find a way to bless you in return.
One of the Few True Greats
So many times you have a great player with a bad attitude, or a bad player with a great attitude and many in between. But it isn’t often when you have the pleasure to cheer on that special player with a great attitude and wonderful skills. John may not be remembered as the greatest panther of all time but is is definately at the top of the order. He has been one of my favorite players for a long time and while he may be replaced on the field he will never be replaced in the hearts of the panther faithful.
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
Do you mean number?
Retiring his jersey is good thing. But retiring the number, to commemorate the last original Panther, along with the fact that no one else can wear it would be in my mind, the right step. But his name on the Ring of Honor, build him a statue, and retire his number. Kasay meant more to the Carolina’s than for us to allow someone else to wear his number
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
I've heard of grammar and spelling nazis
looks like we’ve got a semantics nazi now too
by Beny on Aug 10, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I was gonna say
How can you retire a jersey without the number associated with it?
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
It is different
I get what he was saying, I just don’t want them to retire only his jersey. I think that would be hollow to what he has meant to the team and fanbase.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
I think LovePanthers meant 'retire his number.'
You’ll hear a number be referred to as a jersey at times. At least that is the way I took it.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
So much appreciation for John and what he's stood for throughout his career
I sincerely hope the team makes some sort of gesture on his behalf whether that be a statue, retiring his jersey or both. Pure Class.
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
Its official
I will rock out my Kasay jersey for the first regular season game. He is a classy guy.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Aug 10, 2011 10:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Thank you John!
Retiring his jersey is not debatable in my opinion. Not that anyone would argue against it. But the Panthers Organization better make this happen or I will be one dissapointed cat.
Thanks again for the memories John. God bless you and your family.
True class act...
to play that long in the NFL and only play for 2 teams says a lot about his skills as a kicker. I’m so proud to have had the privilege of watching him for the last 16 years.
On another note…didn’t anyone realize we’re playing the Ravens on Thursday night? Or am I missing something? Why is someone who covers the Bears reporting (wrongly) on the Panthers?
Biggs is wrong
The Panthers opened preseason on a Thursday LAST year against Baltimore.
This year our first game is on Saturday against the Giants, and we’ll have a preview here on the site later in the week
by James Dator on Aug 10, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
That's why
I thought this was so amusing…lol And he’s a Bears reporter writing on the Panthers. Really? What a douche!
I think that bitch smack we did in the Olsen trade made them slightly retarded.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
by MMA_PITBULL on Aug 10, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Yeah
I got a little choked up while reading it as well.
by pantherdiehard on Aug 10, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
as a person of faith
JK has always been an inspiration to me. And now in adversity, he continues to be. Well done #4
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Kasay will be missed. And it won’t just be his on field presence, but his calming off field influence as well. One can say the reason Smitty has calmed down so much over the years has been the influence of John Kasay. People on the outside and fans of the team that are just fair wheather fans will say “Oh he was just a kicker. Who cares?”.
He was more than a kicker. He was friend to his teammates, a positive locker room influence, and loved by all us Panthers fans who understand the things he has done for this organization. Kasay deserves to be immortalized for those reasons.
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
"Thank you for your encouragement when I failed. Thank you for the celebrations when we won."
Note how he takes personal responsibility for failure, but gives credit to the team for success.
Class personified.
by Beny on Aug 10, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 13 recs
+4
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")
Jerry Richardson: "Bitch slapping the NFL one signing at a time" - MMA_Pitbull
by The Duke Dude on Aug 10, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I see what you did there
=-)
In situations like this when things are bad, the easy thing to do is fold up the tent, just pack it up and accept it. But winners and people who are successful realize that when things get tough, it’s an opportunity to define yourself. They realize that in this moment, you can do something great. - Jon Beason
by Tarheel Soldier on Aug 10, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure where to post this today but finally some good news about gamble
Aug. 09, 2011 2:28 p.m. – by Steve Reed – Gamble to get top WR
CB Chris Gamble said he’s been told by coaches he’ll be covering the opponent’s No. 1 WR, rather than having to stick to one side of the field as in the past. Gamble, who was benched late last season, said he’s confident he can be a shutdown CB. Panthers RapidReports
for some maybe this was obvious, but the lack of practice time had some of us getting worried about where chris’ head was at
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
I may be in limited company in the following opinion
but my confidence in Gamble is very high. I think he’ll return to strong form and have an excellent showing. With all of the blitzing there will be a great deal of pressure on him and I think he’ll step up. I’m looking forward to it.
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
I rag on him from time to time
But the truth is, I think he is an absolutely excellent corner.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 10, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Classic interview with Steve Smith!
http://www.catscratchreader.com/2011/8/10/2355353/smitty-interview-on-the-mac-attack
Never a dull moment with this guy. I love what he’s saying about the new offense.
STEVE SMITH!
?
Steve Reed
Ron Rivera said he still hasn’t decided who will start at QB on Saturday.
This will get interesting
This morning on WFNZ Reed said it would likely be Clausen on Sat
And that Rivera said both will alternate starting in PreSeason games. He said you can’t really determine the starter in practice alone… Need to seem them in the spotlight against real competition.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Aug 10, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
May the best man win!
Who really knows how good Jimmeh can be now that he’s in a system that actually caters to his strengths…as opposed to John Fox’s coaching approach (during his last season here, anyway):
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
I'm interested in seeing how the players react to the different quarterbacks!
"Let the haters keep hating and I'll keep cashing the checks"-Steve Smith
by stnecldcr8z on Aug 10, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
today's updates from the twitter
SCHWARTY update
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
G Geoff Schwartz had a shot in his hip to alleviate inflammation. Nothing seriously wrong other than pain.
TD foot
josephperson Joe Person
Ron Rivera says LB Thomas Davis getting his foot examined. Said injury did not happen on a specific play.
olsen at WR
billvoth Bill Voth
Olsen lining up some as a wideout. I’d put good money on bet that he’ll lead #Panthers in receptions.
hardy update
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
Should be very soon. RT @Larger20: @carolinagrowl When will Greg Hardy start practicing? Any update on his injury?
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
Players who need to step up at Panthers camp: WR Brandon LaFell, DE Everette Brown, OG Duke Robinson, CB Robert McClain & TE Gary Barnidge.
Steve Reed
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
Players on the rise at Panthers camp: DE Eric Norwood, DT Corvey Irvin, WR Armanti Edwards, QB Cam Newton and TE Greg Olsen.
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
by revdwl34 on Aug 10, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Any chances that LaFell gets cut?
"Let the haters keep hating and I'll keep cashing the checks"-Steve Smith
by stnecldcr8z on Aug 10, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he gets every oppty to make the team
by bustin his butt for the next 4 weeks and making plays. RR is really stressing that guys are not given spots on this team, they earn it. so if the other 6 WRs outwork him and outplay him, it’s possible he gets traded/cut, IMO
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Probably not, but he's definitely on a VERY short leash
Naanee is impressing by busting his tail. Gettis is still toggling between #2-#3. Armanti is lining up all over the place. Olsen is lining up at WR. LaFell is the odd man out.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Aug 10, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think practicing LaFell at PR is very interesting.
To me it says you are no lock to make this team, and you need to bust your ass to make it. I doubt he’ll get cut being a third rounder, but on the other hand I could see Riv cutting him as an example.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 10, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
+cam totally agree awesome
esply with guys like clowney and pilares taking reps at the gunner, and AE at PR. so, brandon, what are YOU willing to do to make this team? no entitlement on a chico team
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
They could let him go to open up a spot for a guy like Barnidge
Rivera seems to not have much patients for laziness. Guys like Barnidge, Naanee, Armanti have a strong advantage over LaFell… Could be the next Dwayne Jarrett.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Aug 10, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I've seen in a few videos, Barnidge has already stepped up.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
yeah i didnt follow that one
would have to wonder if the rest of camp we have not seen has barny playing poorly? maybe his excelling at fanfest was not indicative of how he’s done the rest of the practices
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
then again, (sorry)
hurney praised barny 2 days ago, so i really dont follow that comment by reed
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Reed said on WFNZ that Rivera's been pretty down on Everette Brown
He said Norwood is starting ahead of him, just based on effort. And that he needs a DE that can do more than just rush the passer… implying Brown cannot.
Looking like Hardy will be the starter, with Norwood getting a lot more snaps this year. And Brown once again limited to obvious passing downs only.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Aug 10, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that's a pretty big assumption (re: Hardy)
There’s no telling what Rivera will think of Hardy’s attitude/work ethic either, but getting into a motorcycle accident before camp doesn’t exactly endear you to the new staff.
He’ll have to prove himself just as much anyone on the roster. I think Norwood is going to get the starting nod based on what they’re seeing from him and Hardy and Brown will battle for the 3D spot when CJ rotates to DT.
Steve Reed said he thought it would be Hardy
The assumption being that Brown’s size hurts him against the run. Hardy is a more natural NFL DE… And who’s left to start? Norwood? He’s small too… he’s just getting an A for effort. We are thin at the line. I think Hardy starting is a safe guess at this point.
STEVE SMITH!
I have the same perspective.
Unless we get a true NT for a 3-4, Norwood and Brown will always be back-ups or 3rd down specialists.
Norwood is 6-1 255.
That is not too small in this defense.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
I almost wonder if we need CJ to rotate to the DT position during obvious passing downs...
…we’ve seen Irving and McClain as penetrating DT’s in this defense. I think taking out the NT and putting those 2 in as the pass rushing UT’s, while leaving CJ and Hardy/Norwood or even Brown in as DE’s will still put PHENOMENAL pressure on the offense, while helping to limit draw plays.
Great updates revdwl. What happened to TD now? He injured again?
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
Probably not serious. They are looking at his foot.
I bet he has just been hard on his foot while babying his knee. Probably just painful.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
hopefully
schwarty’s “sore” hip, TD’s “sore” foot, and Duke’s “sore everything” are nothing to be concerned about, just run of the mill camp stuff. with 5 weeks until real games, there is some margin to let the guys rest adequately to let the soreness subside so they can jump back in full strength, even if it means missing several practices in early august
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
All I know is that Saturday can't come fast enough
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Aug 10, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 15 recs
those were the days my friend
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
rec'd, +1, +boberry biscuits
I don’t know what to call it, but awesome gif. I’m saving this for future use. THANKS!
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
just made that bad boy GREEN
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
This.
Is the very play I watched when I first thought “Steve Smith is something special.”
"You know you're in Charlotte when every day while you're having lunch in the city you hear ... "GOD Scott Fowler is a retard!"
by The Kackalack Kid on Aug 10, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
How old are you?
This was in 2008! How did you not realize he was something special in 2005, when he led the league in receptions, yards AND TDs???
STEVE SMITH!
or 2001 even when he took his first ever NFL return to the house.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 10, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
This was actually 2007.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
My thoughts on the mechanics of the fund
1) Have James/Jaxon co-chair the fund drive
2) Setup a special bank account “John Kasay statue fund”
3) Rent a P.O. Box with that name
4) All checks, M.O.s, etc. should be made out to the fund.
5) Attempt to get “free” advertizing from local paper, radio stations, etc.
6 Any funds left over should be given to Johns favorite charity in his name
Jim
Dang
How much money do you think will be donated? Leftovers…
And over there in the tree, is a chipmunk nest. And that right there, is our corn, best in the city, it's delcious. And that is a crazy lady. So now you pretty much know what I do. Pretty dang exciting, huh?
looks like we have our DT
josephperson Joe Person
Panthers DT Corvey Irvin not setting his goals low for what could be his first season as a starter. Mentioned the Pro Bowl among his goals
no wonder RR didn’t want another DT when Edwards went down. Corvey’s goin to the Pro Bowl!!!! woo hooo!! lol
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Regarding DT's
I think that we will be fine at defensive tackle
"Let the haters keep hating and I'll keep cashing the checks"-Steve Smith
by stnecldcr8z on Aug 10, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we'll be fine at -under- tackle
Personally, I’m quite worried about the NT position. Fua will prob take a bit to come into his own, and probably won’t command double teams consistently until his 2nd or 3rd year. Not having a guy who can eat up 2 blockers on the line will hurt our blitz-heavy defense a lot.
by the sound of corvey, he will take up at least THREE blockers lol
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Setting goals and achieving them are two different things.
Personally, I’d be offended if any one of our beloved Panthers came into camp thinking anything different than they’re going to a Pro Bowl. I mean, I really wouldn’t expect him to say anything else. He’s yet another in a long list of our guys who have to prove themselves. But that means that they’re going to be pushing hard, they’re going to be hungry. I think they’ll be successful, but let’s reserve the idea of the Pro Bowl until we’ve actually seen them play at that level. I don’t want to get too far up, you know? Lol.
"You know you're in Charlotte when every day while you're having lunch in the city you hear ... "GOD Scott Fowler is a retard!"
by The Kackalack Kid on Aug 10, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
im with you kack, i just got a kick out of it
and it’s great to hear things are looking up for corvey
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
tribute to kasay.
I say we definitely make some sort of tribute. The only thing I would say is we should maybe come up with something else, an original way to salute the original panther. Let Jr do the statue and retire the jersey. But hey just my opinion.
by braves&panthers4ever on Aug 10, 2011 12:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
OK - I don't care.
As long as the tribute is on display at the stadium for all to see showing our gratitude to John. Maybe a plaque at the main entrance – - – - something permanent that John can be proud of.
If CSR decides to do this, I’m in for $100.00
Jim
today's AE news for the Tater fix
carolinagrowl Steve Reed
Armanti Edwards said the Panthers have five plays in for him at QB, but more will come as the season progresses.
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
they will run one during preseason and that will be the last we see of Armanti Edwards, j/k
"Let the haters keep hating and I'll keep cashing the checks"-Steve Smith
If I remember correctly, that was all the plays that they ran for him
"Let the haters keep hating and I'll keep cashing the checks"-Steve Smith
"They" meaining "The Fox regime"?
This is a new RivERA. We may see more of Armanti this Saturday than we saw of him all last season.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Any chance we have to many trick plays and such for our own good?
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
time will tell
i was wondering: why take up practice time now instead of working more on our core packages. but im not a coach, and dont play one on tv, so…
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
I don't think so
As long as they use them sparingly just to keep the defense on their toes. They don’t want to run an exclusively trick play offense like the wildcat was in miami a few years ago but if they have a situation where the defense is bering down on them and they need to change things up a bit then they have a lot of options to go with.
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
and you can't underestimate
the time it takes for opposing DC’s to prepare their guys for:
gadgets
wildcat
QB called run plays
option
spying #1
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Exactly
Just because they are there doesn’t mean they have to be used all the time. Just often enough that the other teams know they are there and need to prepare for them.
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
When you can't win with polish, win with trickery
As teams like the Browns have shown, thinking out of the box against teams you can’t beat on paper is a good recipe for upsets. Going into week 2, we can’t honestly expect to win against GB without a trick or two up our sleeve. Play to win, not to the status quo. I think a lot of NFL coaches could definitely take that lesson away from college Cinderella upsets.
Like all the Ideas...
one thing we HAVE to do if he he decides to retire is re-sign him to a contract so he can retire a PANTHER!
+4
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")
Jerry Richardson: "Bitch slapping the NFL one signing at a time" - MMA_Pitbull
by The Duke Dude on Aug 10, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't undersand the idea of placing the QB wide in the wildcat
If you swing him out as a WR, doesn’t that give the defense a free shot. When I was playing CB in HS, if the QB hsd lined up in front of me as a WR, I would have tried to take his head off when I had the chance without any blockers in my way. I would think if I was making that decision I would line him of at tailback or even take him off the field completely.
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
In the NFL refs will be looking out for that sort of thing. Then after the game the commish
will hammer you with a ~150k fine. On top of that everyone on the opposing team will know precisely what you were up to and then you can expect permanent retribution for going after their leader.
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
But if he's a WR
you have five yards of free contact with him before it’s pass interference. You may piss off the other team but as far as penalties, that’s just football. If you don’t want him to get hit then don’t line him up out there.
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
Back in the day it used to be "just football"
but nowadays things like that can be construed as detrimental and they fine or suspend folk for it. Not saying its right…but just how it is.
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
I think Jake lined up there once
and at the snap, promptly sprinted backwards away from the line. Not much of a chance of him getting clobbered.
by panthersnbraves on Aug 10, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. I remember that. The goal is to make the defense account for you and get out of the way
but can you imagine having to face off against a 6’5" 250lb QB with ~4.6 40 that might be running a route on you with a guy known to have a cannon arm taking the snap (AE)?
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
by Vagus on Aug 10, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There are also logistical considerations
The goal is confusion and pulling your QB off the field immediately lets the opposing defense know something is up as opposed to realizing it after the team breaks the huddle. Also shuffling personnel like that could be a good way to get an illegal substitution penalty unless you’ve already let the rest of the offense know that the formation is coming.
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
Very true
But I still think I would keep him in the backfield behind the line and somewhat out of danger.
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
One of my favorite games was against Atlanta.
We had a bunch of running plays where there was literally no QB on the field. I mean they KNEW we were running and couldn’t stop it. That said, it doesn’t always work like that.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 10, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you know we set a record for most rushing attempts since the merger with that game?
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
I liked that game too
One that stuck out to me was 2009 against the Vikes. Best run D in the league, stacked the box, and we still bruised our way down the field. God I love our run game.
J-Stew was a monster towards the end of '09.
That Tampa game I’d say was the pinnacle. We ruined Jon Gruden’s NFL career.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
That Tampa game was in 08, I know.
Just jumping from thought to thought.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
only good games we had in the last 4-5 years
we ran the ball…..
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
I used to get sooo pissed at Fox/Davidson when they would waste downs throwing the football when it was clear our passing game was getting us nowhere. I realize you have to keep the defense honest (assuming you can’t just run them over no matter what), but man we had two studs back there and crap at QB yet we continued to try and force a square beg into a round hole.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
thats what Ive come to call the Fox Effect! if it doesn’t work….shake your head and try again!!
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Nice.
shake your head, smack your gum, clap your hands and try it again.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
LMAO
Exactly….. now I hope RR and Co watch the same games we do and come up with new game plans every week or even change it at half if it’s not working
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I recall that game
That’s when I was sold on DWill being an absolute stud.
Atlanta has gotten better since then, that’s for sure.
just wondering
about every third time i open this page, it can’t download the comments section; i have to reload the page, which loses all of the yellow boxes, so i can’t tell what’s new.
any chance that the cause might be: the video/pics? i’m not trying to be a downer, but wondered if others are having the same problem, and if we could figure out a solution.
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
It could be a myriad of things
With this small of an amount of replies it’s probably local to you as opposed to something on CSR’s end. Odds are it is your connection. Best things you can try though are to clear your cache or try a different browser. Another thing to try would be to reboot your browser., flush your dns cache, etc…
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
*router*
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
I was having problems like that when using Explorer. I downloaded Mozilla Firefox and all was well.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
tks vagus
can you tell me how to clear a cache?
tks
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firefox
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Click Tools > then click Options > Click “Advanced” in the list of options at the top > Click the “Network” tab > Then find the button that says “Clear Now” (should be next to dialogue that says “You cache is currently using…”
Hope that helps.
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by Ivan459 on Aug 10, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
don't see "advanced" at the top, rats
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
I understand your frustration, but that's old news.
Besides, he’s gone anyway, and we now have a BA…oh…wait, you meant…OH. Never mind.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
lol that was awesome news
"We want them to play fast, we want them to play physical, we want them to play hard and most importantly we want them to play smart." RR 8-3-11
Sorry to say but......
Does any 1 remember the super bowl…and why we lost???
Great guy but i’m personally still bitter!!
the biggest kick of his career and he pooches it OUT OF BOUNDS!
with led to brady taking over on the 45..
thanks john for the good memories but no thanks for costing us a SB win!
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So...
Are you still vindictive towards your 4th grade teacher for putting you in timeout and that guy who accidentally stepped on your foot when getting off the bus? Surely its obvious you’re still mad at the guy who pissed in your cheerios.
“One play can win a game, but one play can’t lose a game.” Time to grow up, kid.
So.....BTW I'm No KID
Are you having fash backs of your child hood??
I have my opinion!
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You can have an opinion, but it doesn't change how pathetic it is
If you expected to get a free pass on a dick move, you were wrong
lol
I could care less of your opinion of me!
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Technically it's his opinion of your opinion...
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Aug 10, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG
Really???
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Big difference there.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Aug 10, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Me/My Opinion
Same thing!
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
OK WTF ever dude
I didn’t know we were in grade school still! lol GET A LIFE BRO
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
by Vagus on Aug 10, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Loved that flick.
‘specially when he’s breaking down Phil Collins’ music.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
I knew I was gonna marry my wife when she sat there and laughed her ass off at that movie.
We watch it every Halloween. We always try to make sure none of the nudity is on when kids come to the door. We always seem to screw it up once a year.
Sorry Kids!
Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.
I have no idea what movie that is from
But I rec’d it anyway. LOLz
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
American Psycho
Classic.
Goddamn quebecios! It is 35 miles per hour, not 35 kilometers per... whatever is metric for hour.
I second that being a dick opinion
On the original Panther. Let him have one post for god sake and keep your opinion to yourself.
by Swamp Panther on Aug 10, 2011 8:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not the sole reason we lost that game, without him we would have never been there
to begin with. We won I believe 7 games that year in the last minute, many off of his foot. Not to mention the 50 yd field goal he hit as time expired before the half.
His poor kickoff made the Patriots job much easier, but the defense still gave up a number of 13 yard+ pass plays while playing soft which should have never happened.
One play can win a game, but one play does not necessarily lose one. We had plenty of chances.
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I don't always dress like a pirate...but when I do, I do it in this picture.
by Vagus on Aug 10, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
much better response!
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This, a thousand times over
Fact is, we lost the superbowl because of the defense… not because of Kasay; he’s just become the convenient scapegoat.
During the 2003 season the defense allowed 295 yards a game. When it came time for the Superbowl they all forgot to play at the same time, except because everyone was blinded by the offensive show we forgot just how bad our defense was. They allowed 487 yards of total offense, almost 200 yards more than their season average.
So… in the end what made more of a difference? The half field Kasay gave up on the kickoff, or the two fields the defense gave up in the first 59 minutes?
by James Dator on Aug 10, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let's not forget some questionable coaching decisions.
Fox electing to go for 2 twice and failing.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Aug 10, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, quite possibly, the Cheatriots factor
Spygate was discovered a year later, but that doesn’t mean it had only been going on for a year.
Honestly, I think the whole thing has been completely overblown by fans.
I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person, but if they really had film on the Panthers then Jake Delhomme would have never passed for 300 yards on them
We had a quality defense that was torn to shreds.
I think the possibility of illegal filming is a valid theory. Jake Delhomme wasn’t exactly known as a lethal weapon before the Super Bowl either, it’s entirely possible Belichick overlooked him in favor of Stephen Davis and the running game, who also happened to struggle.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Aug 10, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know… as a fan it makes the pill easier to swallow to imagine we were screwed over, but in the end I just think we were outplayed and outcoached.
true, there's a reason it's called a conspiracy theory instead of fact.
I do think that this particular theory holds more water than your average one though.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Aug 10, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
its a conspiracy theory if its not proven
Bellicheat, as good as he is, hasn’t won a Superb Owl since.
That said, we still should have won. Wrong time for Fox to go unconservative.
Wasnt Kasays fault though.
by Swamp Panther on Aug 10, 2011 8:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, only slightly.
Only ever so slightly.
But being outplayed and outcoached is being outplayed and outcoached, regardless of margin.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
Yeah...it's not like we were blown out, either.
A lot of people I knew back then that were not fans of either team told me it was the greatest Super Bowl they had ever watched (including my boss, who was/is a HUGE Peyton Manning fan). If the Patriots really were cheating, why did they just cheat on one side of the ball, and allow Delhomme to have arguably the greatest game in his career?
In other news, Tom Brady was UNSTOPPABLE that year. I was thrilled that Jakers was hanging with him every step of the way.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Definitely would have been the MVP had we won (Delhomme that is).
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by Ivan459 on Aug 10, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Only response I have is... quit crying B/C i have another opinion than you guys!!
For one Football is a game of emotion, and momentum.. We had the momentum in the SB until our kicker kicks the ball outta bounds!!! PLAIN and SIMPLE!!! We lost right then and we had a different team go out [on d]than we would have before that happened! and they won off a long field goal… add the 15 extra yards on there it don’t go in!!
My point being… it may be an un popular opinion or a DICK opinion… but I DONT CARE!! we can point out any point of that game and say we lost…b/c of that…. and keep telling your self that!! in my opinion the turning point of that game was when he kicked the ball outta bounds!!! and thats my opinion! you can bash it all you want but I DONT CARE!!!
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 11, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Just tired of having my opinion Bashed by you guys!!
That think only your opinion is right!!! Opinions are like A$$ holes… everyone has one but they all Smell like crap!!
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 11, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
If you don't care why are you posting in caps and with exclamation points?
You are correct in saying momentum is huge in football, and that right there was a turning point back in the Patriots favor. But we had loads of opportunities before that to swing it in our favor and keep it there. All we needed was one good defensive play and the momentum would have been back on our side. You can’t ever lose a football game on one play, because there’s always another play that if you had done better on you wouldn’t have been in the situation to begin with.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Aug 11, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL!LOL!LOL!LOL!LOL!LOL!
I’m just starting to have fun listing to you guys Cry like little b*tches! when some one don’t agree with you! We could argue that point[ kasay’s Choke of his career ] till the cows come home! It’s not gonna change my opinion!
What the $*&#!!
So if you were the third guy to strike out in the bottom of the ninth inning, is the loss your fault?
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
hey it could be
I don’t like base ball so….yes
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t either, but its a simple, comparable example to what you said about Kasay.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
that’s cool… but what ever you guys say… Kicking the ball out of bounds to ME not any of YOU people… with less than a min to go in the SB is boneheaded anyway you look at it!
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a mistake. Just like the other 1,426 other mistakes our team made collectively in that near-victory.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
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Seriously dude? So all the games that we won off his foot in the waning seconds during that year don’t count? You realize we never would have even gone to the playoffs without him? Ridiculous to think that. And to solely blame him for that loss is asinine. With the way both offenses were producing, it is likely another 10-15 yards of space would not have mattered.
You are entitled to your own opinion of course, but that certainly doesn’t make your opinion correct.
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by Ivan459 on Aug 10, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
This is one of the best ones.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
Yes.
No, not really. Just a totally made up number.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
I was thinking
1,545
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 10, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably at least that many.
If you start counting false steps, etc.
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
Hmm.
So apparently, don’t disagree with people here at CSR. Or they will call you a dick.
I mean, I understand that Kasay’s a good guy, and one hell of a kicker. Is it not okay for Cap to still be angry about Kasay kicking the ball out of bounds? I’m sure Kasay’s a great guy…or I guess he is, hell, I don’t really know him personally. But does that really have anything to do with how good of a football player he is? I’m not going to go so far as to say that he LOST the game, but I’m certainly still upset at what was, in all honesty, one of the biggest choke jobs I’ve ever seen in my life. Did he make some tough kicks that won games? Yes. Did he perform to the best of his ability in the vast majority of chances given? Yes. But in the biggest moment, in his most important moment, he choked. I don’t know how you can call it anything else.
My thing with Kasay is that…he’s a kicker. As in, not a real football player. As in, not a guy who’s putting his body on the line. So I feel like…. he was a great kicker, but so what? I have always felt like kickers are just unnecessary. Kasay was great for us, I’m glad to have had him. But in the end, to me, he’s just a kicker. Honestly? I would have rather had an asshole kicker, a la Vanderjagt, and a Super Bowl victory than a kicker who was a really nice guy. Let’s face it, it could be a very long time before we see the Super Bowl again.
I know this is Kasay’s post, but I’ll tell you what a real dick move is…calling someone out for posting how they feel on a blog intended for that very purpose.
"You know you're in Charlotte when every day while you're having lunch in the city you hear ... "GOD Scott Fowler is a retard!"
by The Kackalack Kid on Aug 10, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes, Dick.
C’mon now, it was probably the last fucking story we’ll hear about John Kasay the original Panther and here he is saying his thanks and goodbye.
Then comes “alright I’m just saying the guy lost our only Super Bowl”.
So yeah F him.
by Swamp Panther on Aug 10, 2011 9:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and one more thing
I hope you don’t think I read that whole mess because Jamiedk is the only one who posts essay format posts that I read.
I skimmed something about “not a real football player” which makes me wish I didn’t even skim that crap.
C’mon Kack, you’re normally better than that.
by Swamp Panther on Aug 10, 2011 9:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I skimmed something about "not a real football player" which makes me wish I didn’t even skim that crap.
+1
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Sorry if I think kickers are sissies
In comparison to the rest of their respective teams, but I do. Not sure why that makes it okay to get pissed, but alright. And you didn’t read the post but I’m better than that? How would you know if you didn’t read the post? If you think that is an essay format post…… well, never mind you probably already stopped reading this, didn’t you? Lol,
"You know you're in Charlotte when every day while you're having lunch in the city you hear ... "GOD Scott Fowler is a retard!"
by The Kackalack Kid on Aug 10, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
My thing with Kasay is that…he’s a kicker. As in, not a real football player. As in, not a guy who’s putting his body on the line. So I feel like…. he was a great kicker, but so what? I have always felt like kickers are just unnecessary.
I’m not trying to get into an argument here, but I cannot possibly believe that you said that. Can you kick a football 55 yards? 50? 45? 25? I bet you can’t. To say he isn’t a “real football player” is akin to saying “well you are in the Air Force, but you don’t wield a gun on the front lines so you are not a real solider in the military”.
Seriously dude, that is pretty bad. He is putting his body on the line, putting everything he has into every kick. Are they all 100% on target? No. But I’d like to see you go out there, kick FG’s all day, and tell me you are not hurting physically.
And please, if you ever see Kasay, please tell him how unnecessary he was here in Carolina. Not like we needed him for any of those last second FG’s or anything.
I don’t have a problem with peoples opinions, until they borderline on unnecessary insanity. I’m sorry Kack, but that is a pretty poor opinion.
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Insanity? I think a kicker is irrelevant, by and large, and that’s insane? Okay, I guess I’m insane..
If I ever saw Kasay, well, I wouldn’t say anything to him because I don’t know the guy personally.
And, uh, I can’t kick a football. Does that mean I have to respect the skills of all kickers? I can’t give a blowjob either. So should I go down to the corner and thank all those ladies down there for being so great at a skill that I have no aptitude in?
Can you guys be a bit more realistic? I’m sorry I don’t agree with you all. Can I disagree without pissing everyone off?
"You know you're in Charlotte when every day while you're having lunch in the city you hear ... "GOD Scott Fowler is a retard!"
by The Kackalack Kid on Aug 10, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
And also
If you’re going to say that he didn’t lose any games, you can’t say that he won us any games either. If the same logic applies in both cases, i.e; it was a team effort that either won or lost the game, no?
"You know you're in Charlotte when every day while you're having lunch in the city you hear ... "GOD Scott Fowler is a retard!"
by The Kackalack Kid on Aug 10, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No...
One play can win a game. But it takes many plays to lose one
- Some coach I can’t remember (paraphrased)
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")
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by The Duke Dude on Aug 11, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Time and Place
Do you go to a funeral and start rambling about how shitty the dead guy was? Do you go to a wedding and talk about all the one night stands the groom had 10 years ago? Do you go to church and start small talk with how much life and the world sucks?
Read the thread title, then think of how people would approach it in discussion, face to face. Just like the above situations, you’d be likely to get thrown out or punched in the face. There’s a time and place for everything, and in a thread where he’s thanking the fans for their support after being canned, it is classless to begin grandstanding about how insignificant kickers are or nitpicking about .01% of his contribution. Time. And. Place.
I saw no rules!
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 11, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Its not a rule, its common decency
If you want to be that guy, fine, but crying after being bashed or attacked after being that guy is just plain pathetic. Whether or not you’re entitled to your opinion has nothing to do with knowing when and how to voice it courteously.
by ppalm on Aug 11, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
NO ONE IS CRYIN ABOUT $*&T!
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 11, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said, I don’t want to get into an argument about this. Perhaps insane is a strong word to use, but I totally disagree with you assessment of both Kasay and the kicker position. Every position in football is relevant. They all have their purpose.
While Kasay has missed FG’s, he also made some pretty damned big ones. People love to pine about his botched SB kickoff. Well, everyone makes mistakes, even in big games. Does that mean that the entire career of that guy goes down the drain because of one play? No.
I also did not say anything about him not losing us any games. This is a team game, which makes the people who argue it was his fault we lost the SB irrelevant. Kasay has been an integral part of this team for 16 years. It is obvious that you don’t think very highly of the job he has done.
That is fine. But please, don’t disregard everything he has done for this team simply due to a prejudice against the position he plays.
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Exactly how it allways is!!
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 11, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
"not a real football player"
They’ve had kickers in football since it began, so yeah they’re real players. Not to mention kicking in the NFL is one of the most competitive jobs in existence. Only the top 32 get a spot, and if you have a streak of bad luck, like Vanderjagt, you’re out of a job quick. Now add in that Kasay is probably one of the best to ever play the game at his position, and I’ve got no problem calling him a real football player.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Aug 11, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW the best play of the SB was by Justin temberlake!!
This has been a public service announcement.......
kackalack kid gets.......IT!
If you don’t have a popular opinion on CSR……. You are a DICK!! lol
I might change my name to that!!!
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So Dick...
Did you get my email about Fantasy Football? :)
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 11, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
No
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 11, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
What is your email address then? I need you to create your team.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 11, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey My email is c4ptaind1ck@gmail.com
I just changed my name!
What the $*&#!!
Captain Dick?
Go ahead, it fits in with the team too. (Marshall and Munnerlynn)
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Aug 11, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
ill try
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by CaptainPanther on Aug 11, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
This is me, leaving this thread.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 11, 2011 9:46 AM EDT reply actions
GOOSE!!!
"I don't know whatchu came to do...but IIIIIIIIIIIIII came to praise his name, yeyuss!!
~Reverend Brown, Coming to America
This is what happens when I eat chili.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Aug 11, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
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