Panthers claim LB Kelvin Smith and CB Michael Greco off waivers

by James Dator on Jul 31, 2011 11:38 AM EDT

Two more players were added to the fold Sunday as the Carolina Panthers claimed Kelvin Smith, who last played with the Panthers in 2009, and was last on the Dallas Cowboys roster. They also signed CB Michael Greco who was with Green Bay.

I feel bad making it seem like these guys have no future, but realistically, based on their prior experience it seems neither have a legitimate shot of making the 53. Sure, anything is possible... but these definitely seem like 'camp body' signings to me.

Unless Marty Hurney and co. truly have an ace up their sleeve it does appear that the Panthers will plan to start the 2011 season with Chris Gamble and Captain Munnerlyn as the starting CBs. Some fans will see that as a major liability, and I'm not sure I disagree, but right now the CB market just doesn't represent good value. So many teams are looking for corners that the smart move may be to stay pat and see who is left on the market. Getting into bidding wars simply wont improve this team long term.

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Good point James

CB has been a concern to me & I’ve wondered why we havnt thrown in our hat. But to overpay when Capn is there makes no sense. Hogan was considered a 1st round talent as well. Still, after the dust settles I’d like to see us grab a big name. Of course we gotta save something to do next year.

by DesertCat on Jul 31, 2011 11:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

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I can care less about how the newbees navigate, I wanna know how the first pratice was and who did what

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(trusting James read that post last nite)

by revdwl34 on Jul 31, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions

working on it now.

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by James Dator on Jul 31, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions

TBP took the bad tude of the day award

and was thoroughly scourged by the CSR faithful : )

by revdwl34 on Jul 31, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions

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That is all… wow

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by James Dator on Jul 31, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions

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by revdwl34 on Jul 31, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions

I'm not counting Greco out

Smith, I’m sure is a camp body. Greco has talent though! The kids numbers were real nice. He has great size as well. Now before y’all go jumping on me about “he aint never done nothin”, remember who our DB coach is. Ron Meeks turns nothing into something. If Meeks can’t get this kid to play, then it is what it is. He will be a player that I keep my eye on though. BTW, he used to play QB. I really like that. I like for players on D to have a deep understanding of what the O is trying to do, and what they are looking for.

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by Thee Steve Johnson on Jul 31, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions

I checked his stats at NFL.com

They didnt have anything on him at all. Where did you get his numbers? Can you post them?

by manu4t on Jul 31, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions

Can't at the moment

I’m talking about his pro day numbers. So google his scouting report.

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by Thee Steve Johnson on Jul 31, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed

Plus remember Rivera, McDermott, and Meeks do alot with guys you have never even heard of. I mean of course we have more talent of the Defensive side of the ball then the Chargers especially now but last year nobody could really name anyone off the Chargers defense not named J. Williams or Weddle. Meeks will turn this secondary around, heck that what he did for many years before becoming a DC with the COlts.

CB Depth Chart (as I see it week one barring any injuries/signings)
CB#1- C. Gamble
CB#2- C. Munnerlyn
CB#3- B. Hogan
CB#4- K. Burney
CB#5- R. McClain

Cuts: D. Hall, C. Gordon, M.Greco, CJ. Wilson

If Burney and Hogan play half way decent at all we could be better off then most teams think.

GO Panthers.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Jul 31, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Greco is a S

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by Thee Steve Johnson on Jul 31, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I think Wilson might surprise people this year

The guy played very well before injury last year if I recall. If he can stay healthy, I think he could be capable of competing for the Nickel spot.

by ppalm on Jul 31, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Everyone does know Hogan failed his physical

At best he STARTS practicing end of september according to what everyone has been saying. So listing him 3 may not help. I could be wrong and starts sprinting, back peddling, and making cuts in 4 weeks, but he wont be full tilt boogie for a little while.

As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"

by gdhood on Jul 31, 2011 1:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I like C.J., I met him in Terrell, TX during my stint in Dallas.

He was shocked to meet a diehard in the midst of cowgirl country.

by DesertCat on Jul 31, 2011 1:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Greco Had Great Workout Numbers Before The 2010 Draft

FS Michael Greco (6-2, 7/8, 224, 4.40-40, 22 bench reps, 41 1/2 inch vertical, 10-9 broad jump, 6.80 3-cone drill, 4.10 20 yard shuttle), he first signed with NC St., before switching to UCF where he was their starting QB until switching to FS as a senior. He has great size and speed for a DB, and could morph into a hybred SS/OLB combo, who could be a WLB that can shift to SS as a 5th DB on passing downs. If he doesn’t make the roster, then he should land on the Practice Squad as a great developmental prospect (like with the Packers in 2010).

by PanthersRoar on Jul 31, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I think I read he ran a sub 4.4 40

I might be wrong, but I likey

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by Thee Steve Johnson on Jul 31, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Great numbers, great athlete, great size. I could envision him as a stout blitz threat...

while also being able to cover in nickel/dime packages. Seems like a perfect guy for Meeks to mold, so I’m not ruling him out just yet.

So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.

by Rick Bates on Jul 31, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions

FS Quentin Scott Cut By Raiders Is A Carbon Copy Of Greco

If you like Greco, then you might also like FS Quentin Scott (6-3 7/8, 224, 4.40-40, 13 bench reps, 35 inch vertical, 10-1 broad jump, 6.80 3-cone drill, 4.18 20 yard shuttle) who was just cut by the Raiders. Though he wasn’t drafted in 2010, nfldraftscout.com rated him as the 10th best FS, and #201 best player in the 2010 draft. He played both S and LB at Northern Iowa, but his scouting report says he’s very good in coverage, inspite of his height. Here is the link to his scouting report. http://www. cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historic/1693199

by PanthersRoar on Jul 31, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Twitter feeds from Reed and Gantt have a lot of comments on first practice

Also the CO had some stuff on it. Cam was the draw but Armanti stole the show yesterday. Of course, no pads and no hitting means a lot of people look good.

by manu4t on Jul 31, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions

goody used to be the one winning the "beast in no pads" award

but i think he shook that title with his solid on the field performance last year. he belongs

by revdwl34 on Jul 31, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions

LOL true true - and I am pulling hard for Armanti, he will get a shot this year

Also they said Olsen was hauling in passes off the machine from 7-10 yards out with one hand at one point. We got a STEAL on him – Smitty also had some good things to say about getting him. I cant wait to see him out there.

by manu4t on Jul 31, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I think

that the odds of Hogan or Burney becoming a starter and a decent one at that are pretty good. If one pans out then we are golden.

And over there in the tree, is a chipmunk nest. And that right there, is our corn, best in the city, it's delcious. And that is a crazy lady. So now you pretty much know what I do. Pretty dang exciting, huh?

by lazerlayell on Jul 31, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions

Yep

I hope both due, and those high price CB’s such still on the market or already signed will not do anything aka . A. Haynesworth’s dieases HA HA. Burney could be a nice pickup and if Hogan is 100% and matures with Rivera and his defense he could be a great starter for us. Munnerlyn is good CB and he will land a starting job b.c. he is the second best CB on the roster at this time. Glad to see Marshall is gone, he is trash and cannot cover anyone whatever the Cards paid they got ripped.

Just in. P Burress – signing with the Jets, oh get more R. Ryan we are gonna win the Super Bowl get just what we need another reason to hear that “fat ass” flap his gums some more. Hope the Jets don’t win anything this year.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Jul 31, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Plaxico Burress

The only guy in America that must protect himself by NOT carrying a firearm. ;)

by jdough on Jul 31, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Just in?

You must have just woke up.

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by ALAC on Jul 31, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Burney looked pretty decent. Captian did as well. Cam was great when there was no defenders. Average with defenders and extremely average with the full d involved. Armanti was overall good, didnt drop a pass or punt and looked very quick. Clausen was decent most times and when full D was on very unsure.

by jc51119 on Jul 31, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions

Great content

Were you there? What is going on with Kalil’s leg?

by manu4t on Jul 31, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Interesting comments from Rivera

(Per Steve Reed) the Panthers are still on the hunt for a vet QB. Volek is out. They will have to get someone fairly soon to get them into camp and work them out with the team.

by manu4t on Jul 31, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions

Delhomme is still out there right?

Hmmm….I love me some Jake! He’d be a great back-up…

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by Jaxon on Jul 31, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions

saith jaxon, stirring his pot of snake stew...

by revdwl34 on Jul 31, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd be all for Jake.

Let’s pick ’em up.

by Panthers FTW on Jul 31, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Jaxon

My dear and fuzzy jesus. Nah I would have him as a BACKUP only and mentor. If we treat him like Barney Fife. He gets a helmet, but Rivera keeps his chin strap in his pocket.

As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"

by gdhood on Jul 31, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs

LMAO... I do love me some old black and white Andy.

There’s a lot of good reasons for picking up Jake; but, I can think of one reason not to. Jake was such a fan favorite, would we be hearing “we want Jake” if Cam struggles?

So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.

by Rick Bates on Jul 31, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh I highly doubt that

At least after that first interception, lol.

As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"

by gdhood on Jul 31, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions

LOLOLOL

rec,rec,rec,rec,rec,

by Floods on Aug 1, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions

y

yea i was there. Kalil looked fine no limping but didnt really participate much,just iced it.

by jc51119 on Jul 31, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions

And really...

I think it’s good for MacBern to get a little more experience there. We HAVE to have someone to be Kalil’s backup.

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by jamiedk on Jul 31, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Would love to steal Sam Shields away from the Packers...

Would Conner or even perhaps Armanti be enough to deal for him? Greco just kind of made me remember him is all…

by kittylover on Jul 31, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions

Armanti's not going anywhere till he get's a fair chance.

Hurney and Richardson both like the kid a lot.

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by ALAC on Jul 31, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Probably not

I know they just waived one of their starting ILB’s and Conner could fit in nicely with them…I would ship him for Shields in a heartbeat…

by kittylover on Jul 31, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm still dreaming of Asante Samuel...

the fact the Panthers have now said they have no interest smells of subterfuge!

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by Jaxon on Jul 31, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions

It is weird

I wonder if it was ~~the Eagles~~ unamed sources within the league saying that the panthers were interested to up the price or if it is now ~~the panthers~~ trying to cool down the soreing asking price.

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by bigred28655 on Jul 31, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Greco?

Oh well, we still have one more spot im betting on a vet QB. I think we could still contend but going out and getting Greco and not a better CB to line up beside Gamble shows me that being competetive is not there main priority this year.

by TS BOBCAT on Jul 31, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions

fact is we've got as many spots as we need to have for good players to sign

i know youre talkin about the 90, but lets face it, 35 of those 90 are expendables, so we can sign as many good players as we want in the coming weeks….and just cut one of the expendables

by revdwl34 on Jul 31, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Never thought about it that way

by TS BOBCAT on Jul 31, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Just your opinion...

But I don’t think the Panthers should worry about DB’s as long as they can get push on the front line and have the QB’s scrambling or rushing the pass. So they could start Asscrack McGee at corner or Mediocre Ray and as long as that line is getting push and they don’t leave McGee or Ray on an Island by themselves, the Panthers should be good…IMO, would love opinion from former or staring Armchair QB’s..

by ams6378 on Jul 31, 2011 5:42 PM EDT reply actions

Ahh yes, the much under appreciated Asscrack McGee.

I’d hate to be out there stranded on Asscrack island.

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by ALAC on Jul 31, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Greco

For those of you that couldnt read………Greco is a Safety not a CB. If you looked at his pro day numbers he ran a 4.37 at 223 lbs and can jump through the roof. The guy is a tremendous athlete who just needs a little more experience at safety ( being a former QB) to make an impact. Worst case, he is a tremendous developemental player and probably the reason you have developmental squads in the first place.

by Noles96 on Aug 8, 2011 8:38 PM EDT reply actions