An Early Swing at the Panthers' 2012 Madden Ratings
by ERL on Jun 4, 2011 8:38 PM EDT
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Hello fellow Panther and NFL fans. We are rapidly approaching the much anticipated release of the Madden ratings (and the game too, I suppose). Well, actually that may be a month or two down the road still, but as we sit here with no OTAs or free agency to talk about, I thought it would be an interesting topic to cover.
I'll keep it simple: I'm going to list each position one by one. Then I'll put in each player at that position, and then give them an overall rating. To add some sizzle (okay, so its not that exciting), I'll put their best three attribute ratings below their overall rating.
The players will be entered in as if we are putting together a depth chart. If a player is not on the list, then assume that they did not make the final 53-man roster (based solely on my opinion, obviously). I will not try to add potential free agents we haven't signed yet, as realistically, most or all of them will probably be signed elsewhere.
If you see a player (i.e. Matt Moore) on the roster, and you don't agree that they will be on the team, and you comment about how stupid it is to include that player, then you didn't read my half-baked disclaimer about how its just my opinion...so shame on you.
Will I be way off on a bunch of them? Yes. Will my Panther homerism permeate its pungent aroma throughout the article? Absolutely Yes.
Nonetheless, let's check out my projected overall ratings for your Carolina Panthers after the jump.
NOTE: Kickers and Long-snappers are not on the list. Sorry John, Jason and JJ.
Quarterback:
Cam Newton
Overall: 78
Best three: Throwing Power: 93, Carrying: 89, Acceleration: 88
Matt Moore
Overall: 71
Best three: Short Accuracy: 82, Deep Accuracy: 76, Awareness: 76
Overall: 68
Best three: Short Accuracy: 84, Medium Accuracy: 79, Play-Action: 77
Running Back:
Overall: 88
Best three: Elusiveness: 94, Agility: 93, Carrying: 93
Overall: 84
Best three: Trucking: 92, Acceleration: 92, Agility: 90
Overall: 74
Best three: Speed: 96, Acceleration: 95, Agility, 95
Tyrell Sutton
Overall: 68
Best three: Speed: 90, Agility, 88, Acceleration: 88
Full Back
Tony Fiametta
Overall: 79
Best three: Impact Blocking: 86, Run Blocking: 83, Acceleration: 82
Wide Receiver
Steve Smith
Overall: 90
Best three: Acceleration: 94, Agility: 94, Speed: 93
Overall: 77
Best three: Speed: 91, Acceleration: 89, Agility: 88
Brandon Lafell
Overall: 73
Best three: Acceleration: 89, Agility: 89, Speed: 87
Overall: 67
Best three: Speed: 94, Agility: 93, Throwing Power: 89 (You see what I did there?)
Overall: 66
Best three: Agility: 93, Acceleration: 90, Elusiveness: 90
NOTE: Wallace Wright, David Clowney and Trent Guy will probably not make it into the game, but one or more of them may actually be on the real-life roster. Madden is notorious for this, but to their credit, they do release the game before cuts are made...Roster updates are crucial.
Tight End
Overall: 81
Best three: Catch: 88, Catch in Traffic: 88, Awareness: 86
Overall: 77
Best three: Catch in Traffic: 82, Run Blocking: 82, Awareness: 80
Overall: 75
Best three: Acceleration: 86, Release: 84, Catching: 81
Left Tackle
Overall: 92
Best three: Pass Blocking Footwork: 96, Run Blocking: 95, False Starts: 100 (teehee!!!)
Left Guard
Overall: 83
Best three: Run Blocking Footwork: 91, Pass Blocking: 89, Awareness: 88
Overall: 69
Best three: Strength: 96, Run Blocking: 88, Run Block Strength: 86
Center
Overall: 91
Best three: Pass Blocking Footwork: 94, Run Blocking Footwork 93, Awareness: 93
Overall: 69
Best three: Strength: 93, Run Blocking: 88, Run Block Strength: 86
Right Guard
Overall: 82
Best three: Strength: 95, Run Blocking Strength: 91, Pass Blocking Strength: 90
Overall: 73
Best three: Strength: 97, Run Blocking Strength: 95, Run Blocking 90
Right Tackle
Overall: 87
Best three: Strength: 95, Impact Blocking: 93, Run Blocking Strength: 92
Overall: 68
Best three: Run Blocking: 88, Run Blocking Strength: 86, Strength: 86
Left Defensive End
Overall: 92
Best three: Power Moves: 94, Finesse Moves: 92, Block Shedding: 90
Right Defensive End
Overall: 78
Best three: Finesse Moves: 91, Acceleration: 88, Block Shedding: 85
Overall: 77
Best three: Finesse Moves: 90, Pursuit: 87, Acceleration: 86
Overall: 74
Best three: Power Moves: 89, Acceleration: 85, Pursuit: 85
Defensive Tackle
Overall: 79
Best three: Strength: 89, Power Moves: 87, Tackle: 82
Overall: 76
Best three: Strength: 94, Power Moves: 91, Block Shedding: 84
Overall: 75
Best three: Power Moves: 90, Finesse Moves: 86, Block Shedding: 83
Outside Linebacker
Overall: 87
Best three: Tackle: 94, Pursuit: 92, Hit Power: 92
Overall: 84
Best three: Tackle: 90, Acceleration: 89, Speed: 87
Overall: 71
Best three: Tackle: 84, Acceleration: 81, Agility: 80
Overall: 66
Best three: Speed: 86, Acceleration: 84, Tackle: 81
Lawrence Wilson
Overall: 65
Best three: Speed: 85, Agility: 83, Tackle: 80
Middle Linebacker
Overall: 97
Best three: Tackle: 98, Play Recognition: 97, Awareness: 95
Overall: 85
Best three: Tackle: 94, Block Shedding: 89, Play Recognition: 87
Cornerback
Overall: 88
Best three: Speed: 93, Acceleration: 91, Man Coverage: 88
Overall: 82
Best three: Acceleration: 94, Press: 92, Man Coverage: 90
Overall: 77
Best three: Acceleration: 93, Speed: 92, Agility: 92
Overall: 69
Best three: Speed: 90, Agility: 89, Press: 85
Free Safety
Sharrod Martin
Overall: 82
Best three: Speed: 91, Agility: 91, Zone Coverage: 90
Overall: 71
Best three: Acceleration: 93, Speed: 90, Zone Coverage: 88
Strong Safety
Overall: 84
Best three: Acceleration: 93, Speed: 92, Tackle: 89
Overall: 72
Best three: Zone Coverage: 89, Speed: 87, Acceleration: 87
There you have it gang....the ratings for your 2012 Carolina Panthers! If not, then these are what they should be.
Flame on, Kimosabes.
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Smitty
He’ll be dumber down to mid 80’s, in all likeliness. I’ll be interested to see how they rank all of our guys.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Jun 2, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
I thought about putting Smitty at like, 87 or something, but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt
That they know better, that is.
I think he should still be a 90-94. Easily. When he is 100%, of course.
"Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a sh!t about the rules? Mark it zero! "
by ERL on Jun 2, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts...
Fiametta-WAY too high, -my prediction: 70 OVR
Gettis-just a little bit too high, but only by a couple points -my prediction: 74 OVR
King-lower. my prediction: 73 OVR
Rosario-I’ll be surprised if we keep him. my prediction: 70 OVR
Terrell McClain-too high…they ususally don’t rate rookies much higher than 77 OVR so my prediction: 74 OVR
Fua-70 OVR
Connor-too high (I do think he deserve around an 85 rating but he won’t get it) my prediction: 79 OVR
Munnerlyn-sadly 82 way too high, I pushed and pushed for Cap to get a better boost last season with the Madden ratings Czar but he ony ended up going to 74 OVR…
My prediction: 77 OVR
Hogan-there is no way he’ll get an 80 off initial ratings. I love the look of this guy and I think he’s gonna be great and I’m excited to see him play. but right out of the gates my prediction: 69 OVR
Martin-just a little too high, my predction: 76 OVR
All this being said, good list! Nice to see other Madden fans getting pumped up for the release! Sadly, we get it at the end of August this year (Aug. 30th) instead of the beginning, but hopefully it’ll be worth the wait!
I agree...
Madden is going to make the Panthers rating at least 4-5 points below what we should have. And Ill still kick ass with them….Hit me up xbox live: GFlax
Stuuuuuuuuu
Yeah, I'm sure I'll look like a huge homer once the real ratings come out.
But that’s okay.
Whenever I start an ‘off-line’ franchise with the Panthers, I always kind of beast everyone out a little.
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by ERL on Jun 2, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think youre off by that much
But I do think Madden will drag the Panthers through the mud when it comes to ratings. Theyve done it in the past. But i think DLow and JStew will be higher than that.
Stuuuuuuuuu
I purposefully sand-bagged Double Trouble a little.
I know that because of his early season struggles, Stewie was down to an 84. And D-Lo was still a 90, but with him being on IR at the end of the last two seasons I figured they’d dog him a little.
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by ERL on Jun 2, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats true
I cant wait til this new coaching system start winning some games so we can get some respect.
Stuuuuuuuuu
Madden ratings have to add up
And they have to make us the lowest rated team because of our record from last year. I can see that costing most of our players a couple of points. I imagine our newer stars (Johnson, Munnerlyn, Anderson) being hit the hardest. But if we win a few games early (God willing) our guy’s ratings should shoot up.
by Daddy Jacks on Jun 5, 2011 12:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah man!
Dang I gotta admit it’s been rough playing with Clausen this past year, I can’t tell you how many games I’ve lost that weren’t my fault thanks to his bad rating in Madden. But I see a light at the end of the tunnel…. IT’S CAM!!!!
When in doubt
…roll out!
The sprint option right is nasty if you have a mobile QB. Nobody open?…Its a race to the sticks.
"Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a sh!t about the rules? Mark it zero! "
by ERL on Jun 2, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ain't it the truth!
Because I’m a diehard Panthers fan I really don’t enjoy playing with any other team, I’ve always wondered how it felt to scramble in for the TD… haha
Thats how I am
I dont play with anyone other than the Panthers, and everybody hates it because I know how to play with them.
Stuuuuuuuuu
same
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by Thee Steve Johnson on Jun 5, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I've started a franchise with a "created player" version of Cam Newton (and the rest of our rookies).
And yes, Cam is a 99. ’cause why not?
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by ERL on Jun 2, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I love when people do that to me
Like everyone wanted to be the eagles this year. Which was fine with me… I destroy people that scramble. I destroy most people anyway, but it’s fun against Romo and Vick. Love it. Really used to piss me off. Now I have it worked out.
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by Thee Steve Johnson on Jun 5, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Amen
I can’t stand how bad the Panthers and Jimmy are in that game. I know they had to make us bad, but come on. Some of the mistakes I’ve seen are ones not even a high schooler would make.
Funny thing is I’m still doing darn good. Beat a guy last night who was playing as the Vikings and did nothing but scramble with Joe Webb. Beat him with a 99-yard TD pass to Gettis with 16 seconds to go.
That, Sir, is brag-worthy.
I bet when he coffin kicked you back to the 1-yard line you let out a few choice expletives.
"Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a sh!t about the rules? Mark it zero! "
by ERL on Jun 2, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
lol I kinda suck, but I can always use someone to play with.
I’m on the Play Station Network.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Jun 2, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
To your credit, I did change Hogan to a 77 (before your comment). There are rookies who get ratings in the 80’s, but not 4th round guys. Still, I have an sneaking suspicion that he will be our #1 corner before the season is over…if he can keep his nose clean.
"Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a sh!t about the rules? Mark it zero! "
by ERL on Jun 2, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you'll see a situation where Newton is rated lower than QBs taken after him
Sam Bradford was rated with an 80 last year, and Tim Tebow got a 70.
I think you’ll see them rate Newton at a 73 or 74 overall, while Gabbert is at a 76 or 77.
Perhaps.
Because Newton’s most important stats (mainly throwing accuracy) will be lower than they should be b/c of the ‘running-QB’ stigma.
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by ERL on Jun 2, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
And you see from create a player what tanking accuracy does to overall rating.
I keep using Tebow as the model, because I think they’ll start Newton out as a better version of him.
88 throw power, 74 accuracy, 74 short, 70 middle, 79 deep
So, bumping Newton slightly…
93 power, 78 accuracy, 71 short, 74 middle, 83 deep… I think that knocks him down a good bit
And then next season after he leads us to a WC birth while capturing ROTY, he’ll be a 90+
What?
"Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a sh!t about the rules? Mark it zero! "
by ERL on Jun 2, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m only half-way joking, if we’re being honest.
"Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a sh!t about the rules? Mark it zero! "
by ERL on Jun 2, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It could happen...
If Cam could do that and have a great rookie year we could see him in the mid 80’s and POSSIBLY pushing a 90….that’s very wishful thinking though.
But hey it’s possible! Charles Johnson’s intial rating from the release of Madden 11 last year was a 70 OVR. Well, we all know he had a monster year and by the final roster update he was an 88 OVR!
If we can get a camp going, then maybe...
Sounds like the kid is gettin after it hard. If he keeps it up, no reason he shouldn’t be one of the best. He has all the talent and athletic ability in the world, you put that with a Manning-ish work ethic, and you have a top 5(ish) QB. Let’s hope he keeps it up.
The D will take a little while to get their shit together, but if the offense can put up points and keep us competitive early (being around .500 week 6), the D should get to firing on all cylinders and make us a team you don’t want to have to deal with.
This is assuming that Cam puts in the work, makes the transition, and Chudz… Getting Otah back will be huge! Giving your rookie 2 secs to find his man is kinda important.
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by Thee Steve Johnson on Jun 5, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the main things
I hope they get right with Cam is his throw power. it really should be around a 95 or maybe higher, but it has absolutely no business of being anything below a 92. I know you guys have seen bullet that thing in there…it’s favre-esque haha. =)
Keep forgetting we signed Shockey. Im going to hit him all day with Newton
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
I’d love to get the new Madden… I’ve been stuck playing Madden ‘10 for the past few years. But with all the other video games coming out I doubt I’ll be able to get it.
Like the ratings, although I do think that Cam will get lowered because of the aforementioned “run first stigma” mentioned above. Unfortunate, but I think that will happen to him.
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Madden is great
I like building up teams through the draft and FA though signing FA can be problematic at times. I wish I could have played more of last year’s game. Though I am content that I won two championships over 9 seasons.
The ratings have been pretty decent though the new one “Swagger” left me scratching my head. It offers nothing to a player’s overall attributes. It would be cool if it dictated celebrations and all but its just a useless attribute designed around the marketing of the game sponsor Old Spice. “Feel like a man…man”
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...sometimes you have to go against the grain.
by Disciple of Carolina on Jun 6, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
i think you have several of our players pretty overrated
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Cam will be overrated just like he was going into the draft. My guess is he’ll probably be rated in the low 80’s. Cannon arm with 94+ Thrw Pwr, 90+ Trucking, and 88+ Speed & Acceleration. He’ll have manageable accuracy and will be hard to deal with rolling out of the pocket until you play someone with an elite DE or OLB. I’ll continue playing with Clausen who surprisingly has decent arm strength and accuracy considering. Although he may take a hit after last seasons performance. Last year all the stats pretty much stayed the same as 10 except for a few breakout players. I think the only players we had that changed at all from madden 10 were Stewart, Goodson, & Brayton. All 3 went up a little. Everyone else stayed the same or dropped a few. Madden hates us. lol That should be apparent by Gross being our only contender for the new cover. What a joke. The day they put an O-Lineman on the cover I’ll hang up my Dualshock. And not tryin to 1up you RV21 but I just took out the Cowboys in big D with a couple passes to Clowney and Smith with 38 secs left burnt my final TO with 5 secs left and boomed a 62yder with Rhys Lloyd. The dude was pissed!! LMAO Rhys can hittem from 64 with a decent wind at your back. JFYI Breaks the heart of people that try to milk the whole 4th qtr.
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"No need to go heels to get the bulge on a wretch like you."
Trucking?
I’ve never seen Cam truly truck anyone. He might have a good elusiveness rating, but surely not trucking.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Jun 5, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Truck in the JStew sense no but he does always fall forward and he plays under his pads more then most QBs. He isn’t shy of contact
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
Yes, was talking more about the bump and fall forward that he does so well.
Cam is a power runner.
"Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a sh!t about the rules? Mark it zero! "
by ERL on Jun 6, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Never played Madden before...
With the weekly updates do they ever change the ‘skill level’ or is it more of a roster update (injured/not injured so on and so forth). I may have to buy it this year.
they normally adjust skill levels from week to week performance. Ive been looking at vids and this year looks to be a worthy reason to upgrade. Dynamic Player Performance should make things more realistic. Keep players true to who they are.
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
Madden 12 is being pushed back three weeks
The guys at EA wanted to make sure they had enough time to get all the FA on their respective teams. However, has anyone considered the possibility that this year’s Madden could be the “Lockout Edition”? Instead of playing games we will be controlling the owners and players arguing in court. Even better…you try to pick a team but there is a huge lock on the logo.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...sometimes you have to go against the grain.
by Disciple of Carolina on Jun 6, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions
It’s like when South Park made Tiger Woods Golf out as driving a car away from a woman chasing you with a golf club.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Jun 6, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah lol
I think that game was available to play online too. I was sent a similar link via email several months ago.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...sometimes you have to go against the grain.
by Disciple of Carolina on Jun 6, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't wait to get it this year. I will be buying my first PS3 soon.
I will get NCAA Football 12 using the Tar Heels of the University of North Carolina and I will get Madden NFL 12 using the Carolina Panthers! Can’t wait!
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