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Panthers 2011 Draft Pick Profile: OL Lee Ziemba

Anyone who watched the 2010 Carolina Panthers is aware that the offensive line was one of the biggest weaknesses from the horrid 2-14 season that we as Panthers fans had to endure. Thanks to season-ending injuries to an important starter (Jeff Otah) and a guy who failed to show any effort from jump street (Duke Robinson), the offensive line was an incomplete unit for the entire season and had to rely on guys who shouldn't see the field except in blowouts (Mackenzy Bernadeau, for one example) to be starters.

Because of the lack of quality depth on the offensive line the Panthers front office decided to address the issue in the draft by selecting two offensive linemen in the 6th and 7th rounds. Jaxon has already covered the other offensive lineman, Zack Williams, and in this article we will discover what OT Lee Ziemba can bring to the table for the Panthers in 2011 (and hopefully beyond).

Let's take a closer look at Ziemba after the jump...

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In case you didn't know, Ziemba was the left tackle for the 2010 National Champion Auburn Tigers (or, if you want to look at it another way, he was Cam Newton's personal body guard in 2010). According to the media, Ziemba was a very good offensive lineman, as he won a myriad of awards last season. Among those awards are:

- AFCA Coaches' All-America
- Walter Camp All-America Team
- FWAA All-America Team
- AP 2nd Team All-America
- SI.com 1st Team All-America
- CBSSports.com 2nd Team All-America
- Rivals.com 2nd Team All-America
- Coaches' 1st Team All-SEC
- AP Unanimous 1st Team All-SEC

According to draft scouts, Ziemba was impressive during the Senior Bowl, especially when considering that he switched positions from LT to RT for the game. Ziemba, however, was quick to give props to the Senior Bowl coaches for preparing him for the contest, saying:

The coaching staff did a good job of preparing us, and I just wanted to go out and execute as well as I could. ... I think I showed that I can learn quick and play with different players, you know? ... I want to be able to go out and get on the field real quick, and I think this was a good experience for me.

Ziemba had a decent combine, but he didn't set the world on fire with his effort. He ran a 5.50 40, benched 225 lbs. 20 times, had a vertical jump of 29", a broad jump of 7'11", a 20 yard shuttle of 4.65 seconds, and a 3-cone drill of 7.74 seconds. His pro day results weren't much different, although he did manage to shave 0.04 seconds off his 40 time and long-jumped 5 inches further (big guys take pride in that kind of stuff, ya know?). While he may not be an athletic freak of nature, he is not too shabby for a guy who's 6'6", 317 lbs., so there should be little concern that he will be unable to compete athletically at the next level.

Strengths

According to CBS Sports, Ziemba is:

[A] massive mauler of a run blocker who can fire off the snap and move defenders. [He] started as a true freshman, [and is an] extremely experienced and durable prospect with good technique. [He] extends [his] arms well and has a strong punch. [He has a] huge frame, long arms and powerful hands. [He] finishes blocks with attitude, [and is] decent holding up against the bull rush despite his height. [He] can run and hit a second-level target.

The fact that he's a good run blocker makes him a good fit for Carolina, who uses the power running game to their advantage with the horses they have in the backfield. If Ziemba can run block effectively in the NFL, he can immediately make an impact at RG alongside Jeff Otah (if he can finally get healthy) and provide a bulldozing right side for Double Trouble to take advantage of in 2011.

Weaknesses

Again according to CBS Sports, Ziemba is:

Somewhat high hipped and stiff, and tends to play high. [He's] not athletic enough to hold up in the NFL off the edge in pass protection, which will require a move inside. [He has] poor lateral agility, [his] knee bend is inconsistent, [and he] tends to lean. [He] lacks good balance and will end up on the ground too often. [He] can whiff in pass protection against quickness, especially double moves.

His weakness in pass protection makes it a near-certainty that he will start off his NFL career as a LG or RG, and if he develops the ability to pass protect at the NFL level he could possibly move to LT in a few years when Jordan Gross is out of the picture, but for the time being it appears that his inability to protect the passer is going to force the Panthers to keep him on the inside of the line. Hopefully his lack of quickness against double moves is something that he can improve throughout the course of training camp and preseason (if there is one), because I'd hate to see him being owned on a consistent basis by a smaller, faster DT.

Value of Pick

Ziemba was projected as a 4th-5th round pick after his performance in the Senior Bowl, so the Panthers got a good value out of the pick since they took him in the 7th round with their final compensatory selection (#244 overall). Hopefully Ziemba turns out to be a draft steal instead of a guy that we look back on and say "no wonder he was still there in the 7th round". I believe that Rivera and Hurney drafted the kid for a reason though, and I doubt that we will look back and regret this pick, especially when it was the last pick we had in the draft.

Starting Potential

I think Ziemba can come in and make the roster if he shows that he can run block at the next level, but he will most likely be stuck behind Geoff Schwartz at RG for the first year or two of his career. He should be a nice backup while he adjusts to the NFL, and he certainly can't be any worse than Mackenzy "The Turnstile" Bernadeau if he were to have to contribute this season. He could even out perform Duke "I don't know if I want to play football or not" Robinson if he works hard enough in training camp and the preseason (again, assuming there is one) and should have a great chance to lock down the backup RG position, depending on whether or not Robsinson decides to show up this year.

Fit in Depth Chart

If he's not a starter in 2011 (which he most likely won't be), I think he's at least in the rotation at RG, because we desperately need depth on the offensive line, and let's face it: the guys we have on the 2nd string right now are guys that most teams wouldn't even have on their practice squad. (Can you hear me MacBern? I'm only saying this so you'll be better -- I promise.)

Conclusion

In closing, I'll just add that I believe we got a draft steal with this pick. I see no reason to hate the pick, especially when I consider that there really isn't that much to choose from when you're choosing who to take with the 244th pick in the draft. If this pick were made in the 2nd or 3rd round, then I'd probably have a slight reason to be concerned, but for a 7th round compensatory pick I see this as a solid opportunity to add a quality starter or rotational guy on the interior offensive line. Besides, as I've already pointed out before, he couldn't possibly be any worse than what we saw on the field in 2010.

Well friends, this wraps up CSR's coverage of our 2011 draft class. If you'd like to go back and read the profiles of any of our draft picks, you can find them linked in the left sidebar on the main page under the heading "Panthers 2011 Draft Picks".

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How do you feel about the selection of Lee Ziemba?
Great pick! He's an instant upgrade on the offensive line.
207 votes
Meh. He's a 7th rounder. Nothing too exciting here.
63 votes
Terrible pick! Where's my pitchfork?
1 votes

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by rscott94 on May 14, 2011 11:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

trying to figure it out

If he is so horrible at pass blocking, how has he started since his freshmen year, and how did he hold his own in the SEC en route to the national championship. I think he’s better than he’s been given credit for, and could be the steal of the draft.

by usana_gaines on May 15, 2011 3:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Because the NFL ain't college ball.........................................

Like his attitude and work ethic. Don’t think he’s athletic enough to be a starting T. Don’t think he’ll start inside either, as Travelle and Schwartz will start and he won’t beat out Robinson, if Rivera can get Robinson straightened out. We’re in real trouble if we’re counting on a 7th rounder to start. Think he’ll make the team as a back-up and wish him well. Could eventually be a starter at guard, but not right away.

by magicman56 on May 15, 2011 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know, I forgot about the Schwartz...

I’ll amend the article. Thanks for the reminder.

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by BW Smith on May 15, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't take much pass blocking ability in Auburn's system.

He’s more of a road-grader than a pass-blocker. I think he’ll be fine at the next level as long as he has solid coaching.

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by BW Smith on May 15, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

No worries

Given his motivation and work ethic, his short comings as a lineman is nothing that can’t be corrected by McDermott and the strength & conditioning coach. He should be a great pick up.

by Disciple of Carolina on May 15, 2011 10:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I do wish that Zeimba were a little more athletic.

No faith in Robinson. The guy’s had years to get it together. Unless he’s scared straght by just the idea of the head BAMF (it would obviously be better and more effective if he could be scared straight by the BAMF in team activities and training camp), I don’t think he’s going to show up and bring it.

I also have little faith in Otah holding up. Just a feeling. It really bugs me that this guy had a whole freaking year off, yet only decided after the end of the 2010 season that he might want to have his shoulder checked out after it had been bothering him for months. Smart move (sarcasm intended), considering he had to have surgery for a torn labrum – a surgery that it takes months to recover from. And how in the heck did he get the torn labrum? Was he smashed into the turf and have his shoulder by a massive defender like Moore? Or did he just pick up an extra heavy cheeseburger?

Prediction for O-line: Gross at LT (and pray to God that he stays healthy), Wharton back at LG, Kalil obviously at C, Schwartz at RG (who really improved significantly as the season went on when he was moved to RG), and Otah at RT if he doesn’t blow out a knee, or re-tear a labrum, or get a massive hangnail.

Hopefully my prediction’s wrong, but I’ll be shocked if Otah is ready to go at the beginning of the season, and if he is, I’ll be shocked to see him last to the bye week. If Otah goes out, there are all sorts of different scenarios. I see Zeimba as an upgrade to MacBern, so they may stick Zeimba at RG and kick Schwartz out to RT again. Or they may go with the same configuration they ended last season with with Schwartz at RG and Williams at RT. Or, and I see this as unquestionably least likely scenario (as it could spell disaster), but they could also keep Schwartz at RG and try Zeimba at RT. Who knows? But basically, if Otah goes out, we may see experimentation with several different configurations/personnel on the right side of the line.

One thing that would be great for Zeimba would be to give him a little time in practice lining up as a T (on either side – as there is the possibility that he may take over for Gross eventually) and making him battle it out with Hardy to begin with, and maybe work his way up to battling with CJ. Between strength and conditioning and occasionally lining up against Hardy and/or CJ, the guy couldn’t help but get more athletic. Gross has said that practicing against Peppers gave him a run for his money and made him a better player.

BTW – the picture to go along with this post is hilarious. =)

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by jamiedk on May 15, 2011 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Correction - speaking about Otah...
  • “have his shoulder CRUSHED by a massive defender…”

"One play can win a game, but one play cannot lose a game." - Coach Peterson, Boise St.

"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera

by jamiedk on May 15, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Fail, yet again. The above comment was meant as a reply to my post immediately above it.

"One play can win a game, but one play cannot lose a game." - Coach Peterson, Boise St.

"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera

by jamiedk on May 15, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can only learn so much from analysts and interviews, but I was looking for him

to come off the board by the 5th round (as was Mayock, btw). As it is, he was only 10 picks short of being Mr. Irrelevant. This is what I call “found money,” as I believe he’s got more upside than he’s been credited for. He was a 4 year starter that ended his career with a Natty Championship, playing the toughest position on the line, and in the best football conference in the NCAA. He plays mean and doesn’t give up on a play. I think he’ll make the 53, get limited playing time (I hope), and be a future starter.

Has anybody seen Otah. What, did he just fall off the planet, or become a new one?

by Rick Bates on May 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Good pickup

Ziemba is going to be a solid OLineman with time. Don’t look for him to start unless Wharton or Schwartz go down with injuries. He is going to be a OG and not a OT due to his lackluster ability of pass blocking. Still with good coaching he could one day slide outside but for the immediate future he is a guard.

I just hope we have a season so that we can witness him on the field playing.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on May 15, 2011 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

A more talented Geoff Schwartz

The scouting report is almost identical, except Schwartzy didn’t have all the hardware. Given we got him with our last pick in the draft I think the value is tremendous.

One thing to remember is that Michael Oher had criticisms that his feet were slow too and John Matsko did good things with him in Baltimore. We should see dividends here too

by James Dator on May 16, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Backup OG for sure

But he has the potential to see plenty of playing time this year in my opinion.

Lets not forget the maybe overlooked value he brings with him, a friendly face for Cam. Having that familiar face and someone to ease the anxiety of coming to the new team or to talk too as they both are transitioning into the NFL is a added bonus to this pic that I think will be very beneficial to Cam.

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by BEVE on May 16, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

It helps but i don’t think Cam will have a shortage of people to talk too. He comes off as the type to have never met a stranger. He was pretty chatty with everybody at the charity event.

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by MMA_PITBULL on May 17, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

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