Panthers Draft History Review: 1997 Gems
Continuing with our series on Panthers draft gems and busts we turn now to the gems of the Panthers 1997 draft. I don't have any specific definition for a 'gem'. In fact we have two type of gems to choose from in this draft. We have an early pick that became a long-time starter and a fan favorite. We also have a late round pick that became a quality starter for many years.
At the end of the series we will vote for our biggest gem and bust in Panther franchise history.
So here's three 'gem' picks for the 1997 draft to choose from:
2 (56) S Mike Minter
Minter puts up some stiff competition. He spent his entire 10 year career with the Panthers and was a leader on and off the field. His career stats: 818 tackles, 11 sacks, 17 INTs, 11 FF and 71 PDs. I thought Minter deserved to be in the Panthers Hall on Honor if simply for his loyalty and leadership.
Two more options ...after the jump...
7 (228) TE Kris Mangum
Mangum played 10 seasons for the Panthers, the first six backing up Wesley Walls. Mangum logged 151 receptions for 1,4024 yards and 9 TEs. Though Mangum was hardly the pass catcher Walls was he was a smart player who made his living being a very good blocker.
Here's a write up on the selection shortly after the draft:
Wait, it's a Wesley Walls clone! Mangum grew up and went to school at Ole Miss (like Walls), he's about 6-5 and 250 pounds (like Walls) and he can catch the ball (like Walls). Unfortunately, he is also slow as molasses. But he knows the game and has a brother in the NFL -- Chicago defensive back John Mangum -- so he'll have a decent chance to stick.
6 (189) DL Matt Finkes
Just kidding on Finkes being a 'gem'! Finkes is the only other pick to choose from unless I dip into the 'bust' list but come on, against Minter? Finkes apparently never made it out of camp as he only played in 8 games in the NFL, in '97 with the Jets.
I should mention the Panthers traded their 1997 5th rounder (157) to Oakland for WR/PR Raghid 'Rocket' Ismail. Ismail had his best season as a pro with the Panthers in 1998:
In 1998, Ismail recorded 69 receptions for 1,024 yards, two yards short of doubling his previous career high, and eight touchdowns.
But I digress...So we have two choices for a 'gem' of the 1997 draft:
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As much as I loved Mangum's work (especially considering where we got him)...
How could anyone vote against Mike in this poll? Definitely deserves a spot in the HOH…
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
Exactly, this is a no brainer
I doubt anyone will select Mangum except to disrupt the results.
stay thirsty my friends
I voted for Minter, of course, but in reality...
should Minter be considered a gem? We drafted him in the 2nd round. Is it fair to call him a gem, when we “expected” him to be a starter/star on the team? Just asking.
I actually thought Mangum was the GEM of the draft, but I just couldn’t bring myself to choose him over Minter.
Ron Rivera, the Most Interesting Coach in the World. Stay thirsty my friends!
by Tarheel Soldier on Apr 11, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions
Mangum was no gem.
I think we really are setting our standards very low with statements like “Kris Mangum was the GEM of the draft”. In 3 seasons Jeff King has only 2 TDs less than he did
Ok, then you wouldn't consider Captain Munnerlyn a GEM either then?
Both of them were/are multi-year starters after being drafted in the SEVENTH round. Hence the word “gem”, as in “diamond in the rough”. Both played higher than expected and were/are big contributors to the team’s success.
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by Tarheel Soldier on Apr 11, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
What is so good about a guy that averaged 1 TD per season? Antonio Gates was an undrafted free agent….that’s a GEM. Kris Mangum had 9 TDs in 10 years, that’s not a GEM. Most TEs will do that in 5 years, 7th round draft pick or not. He was simply a fan favorite, and that’s that.
Hematite is a gem
Not as valuable as others, but still a precious stone…
Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques
I remember Mangum being one of those players...
That I appreciated having whenever they saw the field. Partly because I always used to think his last name was Magnum(BAMF last name) and I was really into Magnum P.I. at the time so that explains that. One thing I’ll always remember though is that he sucked in Madden! Haha! But in the end it’s a no brainer with Minter on this one.
How is ducktape like the force? It has a light side and a dark side and it binds the galaxy together...
by Panther4Life!!! on Apr 11, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
Which 8 people voted for Mangum? Reveal yourselves.
Please explain why you would choose him other than to just skew the stat… Which isn’t working by the way.
stay thirsty my friends
I must reveal that I am one of the Mangum supporters
All factual evidence and the fact that Mike Minter is one of my top 5 favorite Panthers aside, I had to vote for Kris and here are my reasons:
1)Kris Mangum graduated from the Harvard of the South, Ole Miss (as did I).
2)He is also a stand up guy that was a youth minister at a friend’s church in Pearl, MS.
3)He was a blue collar player that always did what was asked and did it well.
4)Minter is going to run away with this poll and 1 vote for Kris won’t change that fact.
In closing, Hotty Toddy, Go Panthers.
Not afraid. - Deuteronomy 31:6
by dowhatchado on Apr 11, 2011 2:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To this day, I still can't help but laugh everytime I hear my mom sing that damn song...
To be fair to Mangum, he was good at what he was asked to do (Walls initially benefited from being the most reliable receiver on the team, and then once we had Moose and Jeffers and Hayes he got used a lot in Seifert’s pass-heavy system; Mangum didn’t really become a FT starter until Fox came in), and if Mike hadn’t become what he did Mangum would’ve been the gem for us in this draft…
It’s actually funny to read the old SI reports on both players though; Minter was a “solid, maybe above average NFL talent”, and Mangum was “likely a career backup” lol
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
I really thought
Donald Hayes was going to be the next big thing. But then again, that was just my opinion merging with your screen name.
Also, to which song are you referring? Dixie? The other is a profanity plagued chant that could have been so much more entertaining had it not been composed by thoughtless intoxicated frat-tastics. Still gives me chills to hear it in person though.
Not afraid. - Deuteronomy 31:6
by dowhatchado on Apr 11, 2011 4:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
nah, just the "hotty toddy" chant...
Hell, I was convinced Jeffers was gonna be the downfield guy to Moose’s possession role…stupid knee injury!
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
Man..
I was such a big Jeffers fan. In my mind, he was a faster Ed Mccaffrey. haha
And yes, Hotty Toddy, regardless of the aforementioned profanity, will always be a personal favorite.
Not afraid. - Deuteronomy 31:6
Jeffers was insane at laying out for the deep ball...
sigh…..
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
It's always frustrating when
the lines of conspiracy are blurred by the haze of rationality. I do apologize, Mr Ventura.
Not afraid. - Deuteronomy 31:6
by dowhatchado on Apr 11, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Minter should be in the Panthers HoF
He was one of the few players Panthers Nation hated to see retire but he was one of better DBs in franchise history
by Disciple of Carolina on Apr 11, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions

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