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NFL Combine values: There's an App for that.

Hello again Panther fans. Now that the combine is slowly coming to a close from a workout perspective, all 3 Appalachian State Mountaineer prospects have run their drills and for the most part have each improved their stock. The three players from App are LB D.J. Smith, FS Mark LeGree, and OL Daniel Kilgore (yes, you say it KILL-GORE). LeGree had a particularly impressive combine, finishing as one of the top performers of all safeties at the combine in several categories.

I will give a short breakdown of each of their performances after the jump..

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LB - D.J. Smith

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via www.appfan.com

Physique: 5'11" 239lbs.     Projected as: 3-4 ILB, 6th-7th round draft pick
Measurables: 40time: 4.78      Bench: 20 reps      Vert: 31"     Broad: 8'8"     Shuttle: 4.45      3cone: 7.35
Draft Stock due to combine: Increased Slightly

The picture above probably needs to be turned into one of those demotivational posters, saying something like "assisted facepalm: for when you can't palm yourself hard enough" but Smith's performance at the combine was anything but a facepalm. While he didn't necessarily improve his stock, he did draw some notice from observers, which for a small school prospect is sometimes the best they can ask for. This from Iamthe12thman.com another SB nation site:

Von Miller was obviously the star for the LBs today, but I liked what I saw from Appalachian State LB D.J. Smith. He may only be 5'10 239, but he moved as well as anyone I saw out there. Looks like a nice 3-4 ILB to me. My bet is Baltimore or Pittsburgh scoops him up in the 5th or 6th round and in 3 years everyone will wonder who the hell this guy is. 

D.J. has been a hell of a linebacker for us at App State, but he certainly doesn't fit the physique of your typical NFL level linebacker. He is stocky though, and like a lot of undersized guys, he has that competitive fire that will just hit you in the mouth if you think he's a pushover. He recorded 525 tackles in his tenure at App State as a 4 year starter, so he certainly comes in more seasoned than most prospects. These excepts are taking from his NFL combine profile:

Strengths: Smith has adequate bulk for the next level. Does a good job making plays inside the box when unblocked. Doesn't shy away from contact. Flashes some range against the run. Comfortable dropping into coverage, can read screen and displays the ability to anticipate routes. Good character and intangibles. Highly productive.

Weaknesses: Lacks height. Can be pancakes or neutralized by powerful run blocking linemen. Struggles to get off blocks. Inconsistent range against the run and angles of pursuit. Needs to become a more sure tackler. Will struggle to hang with quicker tight ends and backs in man coverage at the next level.

Potential for selection by the Panthers: None. Smith does not fit the mold of our defense and we currently have all the linebackers we can handle. He is an outside shot at best, but only if he ends up undrafted.

 

OL Daniel Kilgore

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Physique: 63" 308lbs.     Projected as: OG/OC, 6th-7th round pick
Measurables: 40time: 5.33?      Bench: 23 reps      Vert: 32.5"     Broad: 8'9"     Shuttle: 4.68      3cone: 7.59
Draft Stock due to combine: Moderate Increase

Kilgore's one big claim to fame at the NFL Combine was that he has the highest vertical jump of all offensive linemen. A truly worthless test since OL don't need to jump, but a testament to his athleticism. I could not find the official 40 time for him, if anyone knows please comment and I will edit this post. However, i was able to find a source saying that Kilgore's 10 yard split on his 40 time was 1.79, which is the most important part of the 40 for a down linemen. That would put him in the top 10 of the OL class.

Kilgore has the versatility to play both Guard and Center (he also played Tackle for ASU on occasion), and will project as a depth project at the next level. He may become valuable due to his ability to move around on the interior of the line fairly easily. Kilgore anchored an ASU offensive line that only allowed 8 sacks this season,  and produced a top 10 offensive unit in points and YPG. From his Combine profile:

Strengths: Kilgore can hold up against the bull rush. Uses violent hands to jar pass rushers. Wall-off run blocker who gets out of his stance quickly and gains initial position. Gets movement off the ball at times. Flashes explosive power at the second level. Excellent competitor and plays with a fiery disposition.
Weaknesses: Lacks some size for the next level. Vulnerable against pass rushers with a wide array of moves or elite quickness. Really needs to watch his pad level and doesn't keep his legs driving after making initial contact. Limited getting out and blocking in space. Blitz awareness is below average.

Potential for selection by the Panthers: Moderate. The Panthers have a need for some versatility and depth along the OL, and Kilgore could prove a good prospect at a low price after spending some time in an NFL level strength and conditioning program. You will note that most of Kilgore's perceived weaknesses are entirely coachable. NFL coaches should be able to coach him into keeping his feet moving at initial contact and to guard against more advanced DL techniques. He probably can be had for a late round pick, possibly even undrafted, and could contribute in a couple of years.

 

FS Mark LeGree

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Physique: 6'0" 210lbs.     Projected as: FS, SS, 4-5th round pick
Measurables: 40time: 4.56      Bench: 21 reps      Vert: 31"     Broad: 9'8"     Shuttle: 4.09      3cone: 6.90

Draft Stock due to combine: SOARING

Mark LeGree knocked the doors of Indianapolis with the performance today at the combine. Let me just show you how often he placed in the top 10 at his position:

40 yard dash: 2nd      Bench: 2nd      Vertical: 7th      Broad: 4th      3 cone: 2nd      Shuttle: 3rd

21 bench reps out of a safety?? From a "small school"??? You gotta be kidding me. The "Man of Steal" looked more like the Man of Steel today with those kinds of numbers. LeGree has the size and speed to play both safety positions as needed (and has played both at App State). With such an impressive combine, I would think LeGree has improved his stock from a 7th round pick to someone worth 5th or 6th round consideration. His shuttle and 3-cone drill numbers are especially telling of his ability to change direction quickly and his body control.

UPDATE: Legree gets some love from the sportingnews

Mark LeGree, S, Appalachian State. He played at a lower level in college but proved Tuesday that he belongs on the big stage. He ran well and looked smooth and explosive in all drills. He also showed soft hands and the change-of-direction ability to be a solid NFL starter and core special teams coverage man.


Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-03-01/combine-notes-chattanoogas-skrine-lsus-peterson-close-combine-strong#ixzz1FS5dHVhN

LeGree had a standout career at Appalachian, most of which i detailed in the full article, but i will summarize quickly. Legree finished his Appalachian State career with a whopping 22 interceptions (good for the top spot amongst all active players at any level of NCAA football), with only 5 coming in his Senior season as opposing offenses elected to play away from his insatiable hunger for the football. Legree began both his junior and senior season as a candidate for the Nagurski award, an honor usually reserved for the I-A defensive player of the year but open to all collegiate defenders (he was the only FCS player on the list). He is a three time Buck Buchanan award finalist (Defensive POTY award for FCS football), and 3-time first team All-American. He had a monster season as a sophomore, pulling down 10 interceptions. Here are the notes from his NFL Combine profile:

Strengths: Legree has adequate size and speed. Displays good awareness on the field. Helps with pre-snap alignment and can jump routes. Has the ability to play the deep half. Exhibits great ball skills. Will high-point the football and make plays far outside his frame with an extended hand.
Weaknesses: Likely does not have the athleticism to stick with NFL slots in man coverage. Inconsistent in run support. Tick late reacting upfield on occasion. Doesn't always wrap up and isn't very comfortable tackling in space. Struggles to shed blocks. Doesn't always maintain sound positioning against the run.

Potential for selection by the Panthers: Moderately High. Like Kilgore, many of LeGree's weaknesses can be fixed with proper coaching. This is something he will definitely find in the defensive minds of Rivera, McDermott, and Meeks. He has proven at the combine that he is faster and more agile than anticipated, as well as one of the strongest prospect in the defensive backfield. The Panthers have a need at CB and could use depth at Safety. LeGree can play either safety spot, but probably cannot play corner against faster receivers. There has been talk that either Martin or Godfrey could find themselves moving back to CB like they played in college. Either way, LeGree is a solid selection and has the potential to be a starter one day. The Panthers have gone to the App State well before, and there is no reason to think they wouldn't again for the right price. However, LeGreedy is not a secret anymore, and other teams will take notice possibly putting him outside that late round draft grade where we would ideally like to take him.

This post was inspired by Revshawn's guide to selecting Clemson Tigers. I figured you won't hear much about these App boys, so here is their big shout out!

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I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss a lineman's (Both defensive and offensive) vertical...

I mean, you’re right that as a lineman there’s not much use for jumping high (well, offensive lineman anyways), but at the same time I feel like it can be a good indicator for how much power they can generate in that initial “burst” off the snap. If he can get that pad level stuff coached up, it sounds like he could be a very good interior lineman (or at least provide some depth). We’ve been searching for another Hangartner, so there is a definite possibility he gets some looks as that potential “6th man” on the line…

Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski

by Tomthehomer on Mar 1, 2011 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

I would happy

to see us draft LeGree. With other needs on defense, I am not so sure we will.

by pieterzen on Mar 1, 2011 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

If Legree is available later on in the draft, I'd pull the trigger...

Despite much of the potential our secondary has, there are still a lot of question marks regarding some of the players: Can captain be that #2 (or #1 guy) for a full season? Can Martin and Godfrey become more consistent safeties? Is Pugh talented enough to be a starter? Can McClain be a dependable nickel guy? Unlike our LB corps, which has a lot of talent that has been more than battle tested, our secondary is still very much up in the air…which makes an addition like Legree a distinct possibility. Plus, there’s no immediate need for him to start day one (well, not at the moment anyways), so in theory he could take a little time to adjust to the NFL and become a consistent performer for years (rather than throwing him to the wolves early)…

Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski

by Tomthehomer on Mar 1, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice read

Adding another epic name to our roster would be pretty sweet. I’m already thinking of some nice combo burns that’ll be sure to singe the skin if AE doesn’t get more playing time next year and is sharing the bench with Kilgore. All in good fun :)

by ppalm on Mar 1, 2011 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Hell yeah LeGreedy had a good Combine!

While I’d love to see all three of them in Panther blue, Kilgore and LeGree make the most sense to be drafted by us, and in that order.

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by Jake Humphrey on Mar 1, 2011 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

Heck of an article man

It’s nice to see some App love, me being an alum and all, it’s hard to find this much of an in depth pov.

by BoondockTodd on Mar 2, 2011 2:12 AM EST reply actions  

Rec'd for App State info

Hopefully the Panthers will consider LeGree in the later rounds. We need a third safety, as I don’t feel that either of ours has the frame to play a full season. The kid was physical and went after it. Good to see.

Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano

by AParker on Mar 2, 2011 7:30 AM EST reply actions  

I like LeGree

But Pugh was pretty tough as a third safety, and he was only a rookie.

Disclaimer: BusyBeingAwesome = Irony. And, on a side note. I miss you, Steve Beuerlein.

by BusyBeingAwesome on Mar 2, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd - in part because of the clever titile. =)

I have to say that I am definitely intrigued by LeGree.

by jamiedk on Mar 2, 2011 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

He's a bad bad man.

He takes everyone’s stuff.

Seriously though, he gave an incredible performance at the combine, one that solidified him as a mid-round pick in my opinion. I am going with late 4th or early 5th and he won’t be there anymore. Honestly, that may not get him here, as well will probably look to solidify other spots at that point. Maybe a 2nd DT. But, I am glad to see him show the world that Appalachian has produced great talent yet again.

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by Tater596 on Mar 2, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

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