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Who Will Be Panthers Obvious BPA Draft Pick in 2011?

Panthers GM Marty Hurney is not shy about his Best Player Available approach to the NFL draft. If he feels a player is the best player on the board he will draft that player even if there is no apparent need for the position. For example, in 2007 the Panthers drafted C Ryan Kalil when they had already signed starter C Justin Hartwig as a free agent.

The following year Hurney drafted LB Dan Conner in the 3rd round to add to an already deep LB corps. The Panthers are still having a hard time getting Conner on the field but its a good problem to have. You could even consider RB Jonathan Stewart and DE Everette Brown as BPA picks. I think WR Armanti Edwards will eventually join this group of excellent BPA picks in time (but not trying to start another AE discussion).

So who might the Panthers end up unexpectedly drafting to a position of little need. Well one position I would think are well stocked with use is WR. But Scout.com confirms the Panthers met with this projected mid-round WR at the Senior Bowl...after the jump...

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From Michael Lombardo with Pantherinsider.com:

San Diego State WR Vincent Brown confirms to PantherInsider.com he had a meeting with the Panthers during Senior Bowl week.

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via cache.daylife.com

So what can V Brown do you?

"I sell [scouts on] my big-play ability, as well as my understanding of offensive and defensive schemes," Brown said. "Whenever I step on the field I have to make plays. I'm not the biggest, fastest or strongest guy, so I have to do whatever it takes to do my job. That's how I approach it."

The film does not lie -- Brown can make plays on offense, as evidenced by the fact he set an SDSU record with 13 100-yard receiving games in his career.

The Panthers could find Brown the best player available as they sit at the top of the 4th round or maybe even 5th round.

Walter Football has Brown as the 12th ranked WR in the draft with a pretty wide projection as a 3rd to 5th round pick. I'm thinking after impressing at the Senior Bowl there is no way he lasts until the 5th round.

Vincent Brown, WR, San Diego State
Height: 5-11. Weight: 184.
Projected 40 Time: 4.50.
Combine 40 Time: .
Pro Day 40 Time: .
Vertical: . Broad: . Hand: 10 1/2.
Projecte (2011): 3-5.

1/25/11: Vincent Brown showed off his great hands Monday, making several impressive catches. Brown averaged 19.6 yards per reception this year. He might draw some late Round 3 consideration.

At the top of the 5th round Brown would certainly seem to be a BPA pick.

Here's more on Brown from RotoWorld:

No player helped himself at the Senior Bowl more than San Diego State's Vincent Brown, according to Fox Sports' Adam Caplan. Brown isn't particularly fast or explosive, but he showed veteran savvy catching the ball away from his body with big, soft hands and running crisp routes. What most impressed scouts was Brown's ability to win battles in traffic. His forty time will be crucial at the Combine.

From SBN's Mocking the Draft on Brown's Senior Bow practice reviews:

The former Boise State Broncos joined Miami's Leonard Hankerson and San Diego State's Vincent Brown as receivers who have reportedly impressed scouts in the first few practices. While Vincent Brown, Leonard Hankerson, and Austin Pettis have displayed the ability and toughness required to make catches over the middle, Titus Young is showing an extra gear during practice as Charles Davis has noted.

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To be clear, BPA can't really be added onto any player after a draft

like Tom Brady might be the best player from his draft year, but he wasn’t the BPA at the first pick, even if we know so in retrospect… basically AE won’t qualify for that (and I think he’s a reach but that is a long, dead-horse-beaten, opening another can of worms topic)

also people with the name Vincent are always good guys, i can attest to that _

by vitzeng on Feb 15, 2011 1:41 AM EST reply actions  

The point with AE, Stew & Brown

was we had capable starters already as their position before drafting them. With AE we had just picked LaFell. Stew we already had D-Will set to start. We still had Pep when we drafted Brown. With early round picks you hope to fill needs and get value. Once the 4th round rolls around I think most teams do migrate to BPA because your just hoping for quality depth at the least.

The reality is unless we have access to the Panthers draft board we can only speculate as to whether a pick was a BPA pick or a needs pick

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by Jaxon on Feb 15, 2011 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I really think AE might have been a mix of need and BPA at the time he was taken

We did just take LaFell yes, but we all know we needed more than one WR in that draft. We had yet to take David Gettis, who was certainly a late round gem for us, so at the time you could say AE was a need pick based on a need that still existed at WR. But beyond our needs at WR, the Panthers needed an X-factor on offense for a nice curveball to throw opposing defenses, so there was a need there too. AE also may have been BPA at the spot he was taken actually, however we paid more than that for him by trading the 2nd round pick in this years draft. I think he was certainly worth a late 3rd round pick, just unfortunately for us he equates to more than that.

Once AE finds his niche at the NFL level, then we will be able to evaluate the choice. I look forward to seeing what the new coaching staff has in store for him, and am pleased to know he has learned all the WR spots. This will allow us to move him all over the field and maximize his effectiveness.

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by Tater596 on Feb 15, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

One thing I noticed that was said several times

is that he’s a ‘smart’ kid, he has football sense and picks up his assignments quickly I assume. That’s important for a guy who has got to be flexible enough to plug into all three spots.

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by Jaxon on Feb 15, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, I try. :-)

"I think that fits right along with what my vision is, and that is to help build this team into a Super Bowl caliber team, win, and sustain that for a period of time." ~Ron Rivera

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by BW Smith on Feb 15, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

One of your best yet, BW. Rec'd

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you
with experience.

by Rick Bates on Feb 15, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Hilarious!

But it irks me that I’m the 12 year old yet I alway come to late for the TWSS’s.

2011 Draft Draft = The only bright spot of this season

by chinchillas sword on Feb 15, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

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Fear not. You’ll get faster and better with experience.

That’s what she said. :-)

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by BW Smith on Feb 15, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I was under the impression you didn't want to be fast?

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by Flowing Willow on Feb 16, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Brown. Here are a few others

Kendall Hunter—RB Okla State. Could allow a trade of DeAngelo Williams while there’s still value.

Derrick Locke—RB Kentucky. See above.

Dane Sanzenbacher-WR-Ohio State. Very good precision receiver.
 

by magicman56 on Feb 15, 2011 6:07 AM EST reply actions  

I would take him with a 4th round pick

However, i like Titus Young a bit more due to his speed besides smitty we really dont have a speed reciver exepet for armanti and he still got some seasoning to get

by MP55214 on Feb 15, 2011 6:23 AM EST reply actions  

I like Titus Young as well...

but I see him gone by the top of the 3rd

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by Jaxon on Feb 15, 2011 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

There are a lot of

solid recievers we can get in that 3rd to 5th round range. Titus Young, Vicent Brown, Austin Petis, Leonard Hankerson if he can fall to the 3rd, Greg Little will be a steal in this draft if he can get his act together, and Terrance Tolliver out of LSU is 6’5’’ and reportedly runs a 4.42 40.

by mlrupert on Feb 15, 2011 8:01 AM EST reply actions  

whole crap

how in the world is that guy 6’5" runs a 4.4 and be so low on draft boards? he might be a steal

by pantherpride on Feb 15, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Look at Gettis

6’3" and a 4.47 40 time, but we picked him up in the 6th. There’s a lot that goes into grading these prospects like route running, hands, intelligence, blocking, etc. Gettis was a “project pick” that seems like its going to work out for us.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 15, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Hence the reason for this post...Brown was given props from several scouts

for his ability to get into out of his breaks…I believe that is where ‘Him’ was a complete failure.

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by Jaxon on Feb 15, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The knock against Tolliver

is his size, he is only 204 lbs which is slim for a man with a 6’5’’ frame. But thats nothing the weighroom and some muscle milk cant handle. lol It is also said that his intermediate route running and hands can be inconsistent at times. Also, his numbers aren’t off the charts but that might be due to qb play.

by mlrupert on Feb 15, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

This guy:

Probably has a way of fixing anybody that’s too small.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 15, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Some people wake up and piss excellence.

This guy pisses muscle milk.

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Feb 15, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

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by BW Smith on Feb 15, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Vincent Brown a lot...

I think he could have an Arrelious Benn-like rise up the boards if he manages to run a good 40 at the combine, but he would be a great pickup in the 4th round.

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by James Dator on Feb 15, 2011 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

Not until the combine and pro days he wasn't

Until he ran a 4.48 (combine) and 4.40 (pro day) and caught the ball better than expected he was considered a 3rd-4th round guy rated behind Tate, LaFell, Williams and Decker

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by James Dator on Feb 15, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

What I like about V Brown is that he is tough to bring down

He is the kind of guy who will rack up YAC because you simply can’t arm tackle him. It will take a solid hit to bring down a thick bodied WR like him. Sure… he isn’t the fastest, but he doesn’t need to be. If he draws single coverage, a good throw will give him time to catch the ball and shake that first would-be-tackler. He is the kind of guy who you could feel safe dumping off a 5 yard hitch route to on 3rd and 8, and have the faith he has the strength to turn up field and power to the first down. He also has perfect form in his receiving, something that is rare in college WRs, especially those from smaller colleges.

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by Tater596 on Feb 15, 2011 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

I agree

I really like this guy a lot. He seems like an intelligent, level headed guy.

by mlrupert on Feb 15, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

No need

Panthers have any sense we take the best overall player left available in the this draft and that is AJ Green WR GA with the first overall pick. Then we should trade Smitty (of course their needs to be a new BPA deal in place by the draft FAT CHANCE OF THAT HAPPENING AT THIS POINT LOL) to the highest bidder. Doubtful Smitty is worth a high end second round pick but we could be able to trade him for say and lower end second or a middle to high 3 round selection. Then we could still take Vicent Brown in the later rounds or T. Young also or either rather.

Still AJ Green is my pick for the #1 Overall selection. BPA draft strategy is always what Hurney has used and this just fits to well with Green being from South Carolina and being labeled as the best receiving prospect since R. Moss or C. Johnson.

Panthers need to sign or trade to get a damn QB and a starting one, K. Kolb-K. Orton hell sign V. Young even b.c. J. Clausen and T. Pike are not going to take this franchise to the promise land.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Feb 15, 2011 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

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