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CBs in FA that the Panthers could Target.

In my last post we discussed all the possible options at DT that the Panthers could target and sign in FA to help strengthen the D-line and ultimately make the Defense better as a unit. In this post we'll be taking a look at the possible FAs the Panthers could possibly target and sign at Corner-back. 2010 was a decent year for our secondary in which we saw good solid performances from both Sherrod Martin and Charles Godfrey at SS and FS, respectively, a decent beginning then a sudden and rapid decline for our 1st CB Chris Gamble, and as always a so-so performance by 2nd CB by Richard Marshall. Though we had the 11th ranked pass defense in the league, Marshall was essentially given his walking papers making CB a sudden 'need'. And even though it's not the most pressing need at the moment-Jordan Pugh seems like he can be a decent 2nd CB in time and Munnerlyn shows much promise-we still need to either draft someone with incredible potential and talent that can come in and instantly be able to contribute or sign someone in free agency to keep our pass defense solid. We'll take a look at the CBs the Panthers would benefit from signing after the jump.

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Asomugha is the best shutdown corner in the NFL right now and would be an incredible hire for the Panthers' secondary. Though many fans see his low interception and tackle numbers year after year and question his ability, anyone who watches Raiders games(my father being a Raider fan I myself watch many of them) they seem to leave out that his side of the field is rarely ever thrown to. And if any QB is confident enough to do so, then more often than not they come away with heartbreak after an incredible interception by Asomugha. His best season came in 2006 when he totaled 50 combined tackles, 1 sack, 8 INTs(including a pick-6), 11 passes defended, and 1 forced fumble. After this season it's safe to say most QBs learned their lesson and almost completely stopped throwing his way. If the Panthers could somehow land Asomugha, his talent would definitely make a huge splash in free agency, and no doubt help propel our pass defense easily into the top five in the league.

 

 

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Johnathan Joseph is the kind of elite, opportunistic, ball-hawking corner that the Panthers would definitely benefit from signing in free agency. Joseph sticks to his assignment like glue and rarely ever lets up on his targets. He's also a impressive tackler which makes him one of the best complete shut down corners in the league. His numbers in his short three year career are very impressive having totaled 274 combined tackles, 14 INTs, 3 pick-6's, 4 Defensive TDs, two forced fumbles, and a whopping 76 passes defended. I think the stats speak for themselves regarding Joseph's incredible talent. The only downside in trying to sign Joseph is that the only way we'd be able to obtain him is if we made a trade. Seeing as the Bengals have expressed the desire to place the franchise tag on him, and Joseph coming out and saying he wants to stay a Bengal our FO will have their work cut out for them if they do indeed intend to pursue Joseph in free agency.

 

 

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Champ Bailey has been one of the better shut down corners in the last decade. Though he turns 33 this season, he hasn't lost a spring in his step and has shown that he can still compete with the leagues younger elite receivers sometimes completely eliminating them from the game. Bailey has spent twelve seasons with the Redskins and Broncos, respectively. But Bailey will always be remembered for his time as a member of the Denver Broncos. His career totals are quite impressive having a staggering 666 combined tackles, 3 sacks, 120 passes defended, 48 INTs(4 being pick 6's), and 6 forced fumbles. He may not coincide with the Panthers current youth movement, but if the Panthers don't see his age as a factor he'd be an awesome addition to our team instantly making our secondary one of the better ones in the league.

 

 

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Carr just completed his third season in the NFL and is a very promising young CB with lots of talent. He was by no means the sole reason for the sudden resurgence of the Chiefs defense and surprise playoff birth in 2010, but he did play an integral part in it. He is only 25 and though you won't be wowed by his stats, Carr is one of the best #2 corners in the league and a leaps and bounds better than Richard Marshall. Carr has above average cover skills and decent tackling ability, both of which the current staff would appreciate. All in all a solid and promising free agent sign if the Panthers do take an interest in bringing in a CB through free agency.

 

 

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Brent Grimes stepped up this season for the Falcons and become their #1 CB and helped them win the NFC South and secure the number 1 seed in the NFC. Though only his third season, he has shown vast improvements from his 1st and 2nd season in the league. He proved to be a very good cover corner and tallied 5 INTs this past season, though I wouldn't call him a shut down yet. Grimes is a very talented player who could come in and instantly become our 1st corner and help our pass defense crack the top ten in the league. And seeing as the Falcons have many important players to re-sign including: Harvey Dahl, Matt Bryant, Eric Weems, Tyson Clabo, Justin Blalock and many others, it makes it a lot easier to imagine us prying Grimes away from the falcons bagging us a very good corner and sticking it to our rival falcons at the same time!

 

 

Some other notable free agents that the Panther could go after:

Antonio Cromartie- Decent cover corner, but is said to play too soft against receivers. He is also a very poor tackler.

 

Chris Carr- Very good cover corner who really came through for the Ravens in 2010, but very unlikely that they let him walk in free agency.

 

Ike Taylor- Had a dismal 2009 campaign before pulling himself together and turning in a good 2010 performance. He only gave up one touchdown last season.

 

Josh Wilson- Another player who came through for the Ravens in 2010. More realistic for us to sign him than Carr, but again I doubt the Ravens would let either go.

 

Eric Wright- Has the physical talent, but is said to have regressed in each of his first three seasons in the NFL.

 

Fabian Washington- Can be a reliable starting corner, but has trouble staying healthy.

 

Well there you have my fellow Panther fans, which one of these guys would you want to have on our roster?

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Which corner would be the best sign for the Panthers?
Nnamdi Asomugha
272 votes
Johnathan Joseph
86 votes
Champ Bailey
32 votes
Brandon Carr
20 votes
Brent Grimes
30 votes
Someone else
8 votes

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Joseph.

Asomugha would be insanely pricey.
Antonio Cromartie has to many kids.

Plus we gotta bring a Carolina boy back home.

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by RjTheMetalhead on Feb 12, 2011 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

Cromartie isn't that good

when you look at his career as a whole, not just the years he had decent stats. He’s just a horrible tackler and thinks way too highly of himself. Do we really need essentially the same as Richard Marshall with marginally better cover skills with worse tackling ability. And with the cap space we’ll have Asomugha won’t seem as insanely pricey anymore.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

J. Joseph would be my pick, hell with Gamble cut him loose any CB on this list is better than him today in my book. Munnerlyn could start if need as well and you know we are going to draft a CB and a LB in the upcoming draft hell we always do.

Also Grimes kid is worth a look and taking a flier on J. Wilson would be a wise move as well.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Feb 13, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Asomougha

Would be great but I would be happy with Jonathan Joseph.

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by chinchillas sword on Feb 12, 2011 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

+1

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

+2

…but pipe dreams, methinks. I honestly believe we won’t get any of them for a variety of reasons

1.) Asomougha would make my undies frothy…but the only way he comes here (why leave a mediocre team on the rise in a weak division for a bottom feeder on the rise in the hardest division?) is if we outspend every other team to land him. That just ain’t gonna happen. He’d have to take a pay cut to play here. The only scenario where that’s going to happen is if the CBA handcuffs almost every other team needing a good corner.

2.) Rivera/Hurney won’t trade what would be required for Joseph if Cinci tags him.

3.) Bailey is aging (although still VERY good) and I don’t see us outspending the Broncos to lure him here. If he was younger? Possibly…but 33 is too old for the money he still commands.

4.) Carr: his team just won the AFC West (okay, okay, okay…it’s the AFC West…I understand) and they are only getting better. Again, I don’t see us outspending KC since their best move is to keep their team intact.

5.) Grimes DOES have potential, considering Atlanta’s other FA issues, but why jump from the top team in a division to the bottom unless the contract was immense? He’s not worth the kind of spending that would be necessary to lure him.

6.) The others? Possibly. Cromartie is still #2 at the Jets (especially with Kyle Wilson not panning out/regressing based on playing time during the play-offs). The Ravens CB’s aren’t considered elite, and will probably opt to stay at home unless someone waves a bunch of money at them. Taylor has good size for a CB (but Polamalu and Pittsburgh’s front 7 cover a LOT of CB mistakes) , but again, why leave a SB contender for the worst team in football without serious financial incentive? He’s not worth that kind of money.

I just don’t see the Panthers making a splash in the CB FA pool this year. The ones who are worth it will command too much money…and the ones who are affordable will likely stick to their contending teams or also require too much money for their ability.

I only see us adding to our coverage through trade (or the mid-rounds of the draft). This means we will probably only pick up a Marshall level corner in FA (if at all)_…probably someone still a little raw with upside or a serviceable backup with experience.

by Mr_Sticky on Feb 12, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Asomougha would be a huge win

But Grimes would hurt the Falcons and help us. So if we got him I would be elated.

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by Oi2dwrld on Feb 12, 2011 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

Definitely

What better weapon than to turn an enemy and use it against them.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind

Grimes

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by chinchillas sword on Feb 12, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Every single one of these guys is a huge step

above Marshall at CB.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Having only 10 guys on the field...

Is a huge step above Marshall at CB.

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by BW Smith on Feb 14, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Having a scottish terrier take his spot

is better than having Marshall at CB.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 15, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually kind of leaning toward Grimes.

To me, he seems like one of the more easily attainable CBs because of all the names the Falcons need to re-sign, he’s relatively young (example, 27 yr. old CB > 27 yr. old RB) but still has valuable experience, and he’s still on the upswing in his production.

by jamiedk on Feb 12, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Carr, Wilson, and Washington

would also be more easily attainable because of all the super-level talent that the Ravens need to re-sign.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely agree

anyone of them is a above average-good starter and an upgrade to what we currently have

by pantherpride on Feb 12, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Joseph is my guy.

It’s just a shame that it looks like he’ll be returning to Cincy.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 12, 2011 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

Well I wouldn't count him out just yet

There still may be a chance that he can be lured away from Cincinnati.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

He wants to be there

And they want him there. There’s a very slim chance that he leaves.

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by Jake Humphrey on Feb 12, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed!

He does seem like a stand up guy and it’s a shame he’ll probably just stay with the Bengals.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

This is where we MUST strike in FA (unless we draft Peterson)

There are so many better players at this position, than Richard Marshall, and it’s unlikely ALL of these top FAs will re-sign or be franchised by their current employers.

I voted Asomugha, but that would be a pricey long-shot to expect the Panthers to pay for.

by bigdavis on Feb 12, 2011 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Marshall has this annoying sense of self worth that just doesn’t cut it. It’s good to be confident about your abilities, but when you get downright cocky about them it’s not cool.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I DO believe...

…if we can upgrade our DLine, it will cover even more mistakes in the secondary, minimizing the need for a high profile FA signing or a CB as our top draft pick. Drafting DT at #1 (since trading down seems unlikely), then back-filling for depth through the rest of the draft seems the best move for our defense at this time.

Although if we go with Green as our first pick, then spending the money on a FA CB makes complete sense. But this DOES run contrary to Hurney’s philosophy for team building through the draft. Granted, a pure cover corner isn’t so much of a teammate as the means to shutdown the best piece of another team’s best downfield offensive threat. Hard to argue with that logic, regardless of philosophy.

I’d like to see us keep most of our FA’s. Although I truly hate to admit this, I’d sign D-Will and trade J-Stew for some really good draft picks [mid to low first round plus a 2nd-3rd round pick…or 2nd round plus MULTIPLE others in the mid rounds] OR for Joseph, if Cinci wants to take pressure off Palmer and give Cedric Benson a complement); but I think if Thomas Davis pans out physically, Connor could be dangled in front of teams needing a good Mike with run-stuffing capabilities to get us back into the mid to late second round.

Blah blah blah…of course all speculation…but seems logical. Then again, anything in my skull seems logical to me. ;-)

by Mr_Sticky on Feb 12, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

and vice-versa

The same can go for improving the secondary. A prime example as I’ve stated before is the AFC divisional round between the Jets and Patriots. The majority of the game the D-line was bringing so-so pressure, but it was the secondary that allowed them more time to get to the QB by offering near flawless coverage of every WR, RB, and TE option for the Patriots.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The Jets scheme...

…confused the Pats…they got some hits on Brady early then sprinkled in a few blitzes to go with heavy zone/dime coverage. Watch footage of Brady…he starts hear footsteps when they don’t exist as the game wears on. More than anything, it was game planning, not CB’s, that led to that victory. Nobody in their own right mind could have expected Rex Ryan to do what he did with their defense.

Pressure the QB and he has to make faster (and riskier) reads…give him time and ANY receiver can get open on any CB. But perhaps you and I just view it differently. I understand your point, but I think front 4 pressure with 7 in coverage is sufficient.

by Mr_Sticky on Feb 12, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying the secondary won the game for the Jets

I’m saying having such a good secondary can take away even the check down options in a game make a QB to force his throws and make mistakes. Schemes don’t mean a thing if you don’t have the right personnel to pull it off.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that this is a spot where we can afford to not address.

I liked Robert Mclain, and I think he’ll be fine at the nickel next year. A vet or rookie to compete with him would be ideal, but I’m comfortable with Captain and Gamble as our starting corners.

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by Flowing Willow on Feb 12, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Cap as a starter is a terrible idea

He has such a disadvantage against bigger receivers. Blitzing, and leaving Cap alone against a receiver who is much larger than him is a very dangerous situation for Carolina’s D

by mangoes52 on Feb 12, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He did pretty well starting at #1 late in the year.

And he doesn’t let his size disadvantage him, he’s a very aggressive player.

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by Flowing Willow on Feb 13, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Which wouldn't affect things much if I recall Cyberjag's article correctly.

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by Flowing Willow on Feb 14, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

realistically i say we take carr becuz rivera has seen him play being a chief

or one of the 3 corners that the ravens have to sign. with foxworth and webb theres no reason to sign all 3 corners who could potentially start on many other teams. josh wilson would be my favorite but fabian washington is one i like when healthy

by pantherpride on Feb 12, 2011 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

Asomugha is the best CB in the league, but is he worth $16m per year?

At age 29 and having been the best shut down corner for several years, I certainly don’t begrudge him his big payday. He’s still at the top of his game, and was only thrown at 33 times last season — that’s what shut down means.
Yes, we could afford him, if he wanted to come here. He wants to go to the Jets and play with Revis. I’m not sure they can afford him, even with Cromartie leaving, but damn, that would be a pair of aces.
I can’t help but think, though, if we were willing to spend that much for an elite CB, why not just draft the younger version in PP7?

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by Rick Bates on Feb 12, 2011 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

I'd hate to see how scary good the Jets secondary would look with him back there.

Their Secondary would start to look like Hawaii having multiple Islands, Revis and Asomugha Island. Tom Brady would secretly weep before the beginning of every game against the Jets. But I wouldn’t mind having PP7 as well, though the whole proven talent over college potential talent would really come to play I believe.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

+1
I wouldn’t mind having PP7 as well, though the whole proven talent over college potential talent would really come to play I believe.

Peterson is talented. But if I’m not mistaken, didn’t he have a few games where he was horribly burned by several teams? We would need any CB to start immediately, and I’d rather have a guy who’s been in the league awhile instead of immediately starting a rookie who is almost guaranteed to have some difficulties with assignments at first.

And as to Pugh as someone mentioned earlier – considering Pugh worked as a S as a rookie, I’d kind of hate to move him to CB all of a sudden. But, considering Pugh played both CB and S in college, I’d rather give him a look before PP7.

by jamiedk on Feb 12, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Pugh has done well playing CB

He’s not setting the NFL world on fire, but he seems more than capable to be a very reliable number two.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

In radio interviews...

Rivera (and I think Frank in Moose in just regular conversation on their show) has specifically mentioned Pugh and seems to really like him. So we just may get to see more of Pugh. =)

by jamiedk on Feb 12, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

We do have solid players and good depth in the secondary.

I just think we need that one ‘player’ to be able to propel our secondary to the top. It’s becoming more and more important to have incredible secondaries in the NFL. And we’ll need a top notch secondary if we will want to compete in the later rounds in the playoffs. Look at what an awesome secondary was able to do to Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in the Playoffs(though Manning played a lot better under pressure than Brady did).

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Peterson was never burned this season...

He might have given up one or two underneath passes, but that’s it

by mangoes52 on Feb 12, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Either way

I still think we be better off taking proven talent in free agency that drafting another DB, after drafting two last season, to groom behind the DBs we already have. If we could any one of these CBs we’d automatically upgrade the secondary without having to wait another season for a groomed player. Though I don’t want to be seen as discounting Peterson’s talent, he’s got incredible talent, but like most players entering the NFL they have a drop off in talent(at least until they adjust to the speed of the game) because now they go up against the cream of the crop.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes i know,

but Peterson isn’t some so-so player. He is a legitimate shut-down corner who could instantly be any teams #1 corner. He has the potential to be the next Woodson, or even Deion Sanders

by mangoes52 on Feb 12, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

With all due respect, Jamie, I don't see how PP7 could possibly be anything

but outstandng at the next level. Even if he needs a little help as a rookie CB, he’s still a phenomenal playmaker on special teams. When I read this assessment, I can’t help thinking that he’s the most sure thing in the draft, and it is a “need.”
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632296

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by Rick Bates on Feb 12, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

With Marshall leaving

CB is definitely a need, albeit not the most important one right now. And with all the talent at CB in free agency this season why not just sign a proven commodity because we’d still be taking a chance on a player who hasn’t even taken a snap in the NFL?

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

These differences of opinion will continue until the draft is done. Whomever

we take with the 1st pick will never have taken an NFL snap. Fairley hasn’t matched up with NFL linemen, etc., etc. It’s just my opinion that PP7 is the BPA and CB is one of the top needs. I’ll let it go now. Hell, I’ll probably change my mind after the combine, pro days, and team workouts; or you may change yours.

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by Rick Bates on Feb 12, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed!

and you’re right none of these guys have taken an NFL snap. But we’ll have a clearer picture once the combine rolls around.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

A lot of people have said that Green is the most sure thing, but I feel PP7 fills that role this year. Hes been in college for a while now and has performed and improved every year. Only reason I’m not advocating picking him is because we’re number one. If we could somehow trade down to 3 or 4, assuming no one picks him before then, I would absolutely love PP7. Too bad I can’t call him PP7 in the NFL though.

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by ThePanthers! on Feb 12, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

A good point that was brought up by Rang on CBS though...

with the almost definite inclusion of a rookie wage scale post-cba negotiations, some positions that haven’t been traditionally #1 picks may start becoming so, seeing as the financial risk involved with the pick will be potentially wayyyy lower than before….

As it stands right now? PP7 would be a bit of a risk at #1 considering impact – investment…but with the potential new CBA? You won’t see me complaining about the pick :p

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by Tomthehomer on Feb 13, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

imo

draft pp7 and sign asomugha

by Ezra Batts on Feb 12, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

We're not going after ANY free agent defensive backs.

We’ll either draft one and bring him along, or stand pat with what we’ve got.

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by ALAC on Feb 12, 2011 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't count out the possiblity

with Marshall leaving, and most of our CBs other than Gamble still learning to master the position we’d be hard pressed not to at least comb the free agent market for capable even game-changing CBs. With Marshall leaving, as crappy as he’s been, I don’t think Munnerlyn or Pugh are ready to be thrust into the position full-time.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Asomugha, I'll happily pay his price!!

Plus, it means that we don’t have to worry about CB, and can draft a top talent besides Pat Peterson. Asomugha all the way, however Joseph, Grimes, and Bailey would all be welcome IMO…

by jkp1516 on Feb 12, 2011 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

Jonathan Joseph would be by far the biggest coup

Although it doesn’t seem likely to happen. He is young and would be an excellent corner for us for years to come.

If the Bengals want to play tag and trade, I say we draw up a deal involving Dan Connor and a future pick and see what they think.

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by Tater596 on Feb 12, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

I could go for that trade

although I’m many of not all Panther fans would miss reading about Conner’s weekly tweets.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Connor deserves a big, fat contract extension just because of his tweets. LOL. =)

But seriously, I don’t see a Connor trade in the cards. I wouldn’t count it out, but Rivera seems really high on the LBs we have, and if we’re going to mix in elements of a 3-4, I think Connor could play a very integral role.

by jamiedk on Feb 12, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This season proved the importance of having depth....

and having connor only helps solidify that depth.

Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski

by Tomthehomer on Feb 13, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for reading them guys!

To Many, Many winning seasons under our new coach Ron Rivera! And may we win a few Super Bowls along the way to becoming a Dynasty!!!

by Panther4Life!!! on Feb 12, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Joseph

He is a star just entering his prime…

by kittylover on Feb 12, 2011 6:23 PM EST reply actions  

I'd love any number of these guys to come to us, HOWEVER....

1) We have the cap room now, but once we start resigning some key guys it might not make as much sense to sign Nnamdi to the kind of contract that he will probably warrant; it’s a definite “wait and see”, because we have other concerns outside of CB that need to be addressed as well
2) No way we trade for Joseph if he gets tagged
3) I still rag on the skins fans for letting go of Bailey, as he has consistently performed at a high level; however, he’s on the wrong side of 30 for a huge contract and I just don’t envision them shelling out for it (if he’s a little discounted? definite possibility)
4) Haven’t watched enough Carr to really pass judgement
5) Grimes would be an absolute coup for us if he was available, but I think it’s a slim to none chance atlanta lets him walk…he was their best cover guy this past season and is only getting better

As for the others? Carr (who was also a good return man in Oakland) and Taylor I feel would be improvements over Marshall, but the others seem to have just as many question marks (wilson in particular I felt like was getting burned a lot whenever I watched the ravens, but he is very young still)….A lot of it is going to depend on who stays and who goes though; We have the cap room but can’t be spending our money like drunken divorcees at a titty-bar…..

Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski

by Tomthehomer on Feb 13, 2011 11:16 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for the whole comment... But LOL'd at he perfect last sentence summarization.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you
with experience.

by Rick Bates on Feb 13, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Aso would be the best by far

But I like keeping things realistic, I voted for Joseph, but Grimes, Cromartie or Bailey for a year or two would be great.

Go Panthers

by Smitty89 on Feb 14, 2011 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

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