Carolina Panthers Monday Morning Optimist- 12/05/11
by James Dator on Dec 5, 2011 6:00 AM EST
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PrintYou Carolina Panthers fans deserve this, you deserve yesterday's victory. While the team only moved to 4-8 on the season it represented far more than just a 4th win, it was truly indicative of the movement into a new era and to finally get out of the cellar in the NFC South; let's face it, its been a while. On the back of Cam Newton the Panthers and Ron Rivera doubled 2010's win total in dominant fashion.
It's easy to write off this team's success in 2011 as just last season's team with a new QB, but really the changes go much further than that. Yesterday we saw players who wouldn't have otherwise gotten shots under the previous regime step up and make plays. Guys like Greg Hardy, Thomas Keiser, Antwan Applewhite and Legedu Naanee were all integral in the victory yesterday, and none of which would have had a shot to play on this team a few years back.
Yesterday's game wasn't about those players though, it was about Cam Newton. A quarterback whose already placed himself inside NFL elite whether 31 other fan-bases want to admit it or not. We'll talk more about Cam and the rest of the Carolina Panthers...
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When Cam Newton lunged to the goal-line in the fourth period to rush for his third touchdown of the day he did more than seal a Carolina Panthers' victory, he sealed his place in NFL history. Newton broke Steve Grogan's record for rushing TDs by a QB in a season and didn't need an asterisk to do it needing only 12 games to Grogan's 14. This represented his second record of the season as he put together back-to-back 400 yard games early in the season to net his first record. Now Newton has his eyes set for two more records, Peyton Manning's rookie passing record which he only needs 442 yards to net the record.
It's also now within the realm of possibility that Cam could eclipse Eric Dickerson's rookie rushing TD record needing another 5 TDs to claim that crown. With 13 TDs in 12 games and 4 in hand it's entirely possible Newton's rookie season could become Canton-worthy, quite literally and without hyperbole.
Optimistic
Cam Newton, Extremely Optimistic Getting away from the numbers for a second lets talk about his impact on the game. The rest of the NFL world want to denigrate Newton's stats by chiding the Panthers for their lack of victories. When one watches the team you realize his abilities, that while he's currently still a rough, unpolished diamond and NFL defenses find it near impossible to stop him from shredding them. For a player whose yet to reach his potential this is extremely scary. There are still times he'll make you scratch your head, but overall he's utterly breath taking at the QB position.
Jonathan Stewart, Extremely Optimistic While J-Stew's first half of the game exceeded his second half he was dominant as a whole. 80 yards at 5.7 YPC and a TD really helped keep the Bucs defense off balance and set up Newton's option runs. It was beautiful to see and now Stewart is on pace for over 1,000 all purpose yards on the season.
Brandon LaFell, Extremely Optimistic I'm still not sure whether LaFell is a long term #2 receiver, but he has an undeniable knack for finding the holes in coverage at critical times to make mammoth plays. Whenever it's 3rd and long and hope seems lost Brandon LaFell finds a way to get open and make Cam Newton's life easier. When David Gettis returns (hopefully at full strength) it will be very curious to see how Rob Chudzinski uses them next year.
Charles Johnson, Extremely Optimistic While the stat sheet only reflects one sack and a few TFL the truth is that Big Money was flying all over the field and making a big impact on the game. At this point I think it's safe to say he's easily earned his major contract extension and when the Panthers finally reach prominence in a year or two I think he'll get the recognition he deserves.
Thomas Keiser, Extremely Optimistic As an undrafted free agent it's amazing to see what Keiser has been able to do in limited time. Yesterday it was more of a 'right place, right time' situation, but you can't really knock a guy for being opportunistic. He finished the game with a tackle, sack and INT... it was a great game.
Charles Godfrey, Somewhat Optimistic We know what kind of player Godfrey is. He'll still arm tackle, and he'll make you scream at times but his understanding and ability to dissect plays is great. Quietly he finished with 10 tackles yesterday and was playing up at the line of scrimmage a lot. It was a really solid game from him.
Pessimistic
Captain Munnerlyn, Extremely Pessimistic Again Captain made some questionable decisions in coverage and had a big lapse in the 1st half that could have easily allowed a TD. I'm looking forward to the Panthers finding an answer at the position sooner rather than later so Cap can move back to the nickel.
Byron Bell, Extremely Pessimistic He's clearly out of his depth here as DaQuan Bowers dominated him at the LOS all day. I think the pie-in-the-sky dreams that he could be a long term answer at RT are gone. He doesn't have the lateral movement needed to deal with DEs with a quick first step, but I still see something out of him in terms of playing a guard spot in the future.
Jason Baker, Somewhat Pessimistic I know he was punting under duress for much of the day, but he still punted terribly on Sunday. As Jaxon mentioned in the open thread I think it's time to find an elite punter, and it so happens there are a few guys in the draft with that potential. I think it could be the time to pull the trigger.
Overall Outlook
The future is bright for the Carolina Panthers and they have a chance to do put together a few more wins this season. This would do great things for the optimism surrounding this team and keeping the winning spirit in Carolina.
70% Optimistic heading into next week's game.
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We can get a punter without wasting a draft pick.
Right now, I like Dre Kirkpatrick at CB in the 1st round and Tammu at DT in the 2nd. That would address our two biggest needs and arguably are the BPA’s also.
I'd use a draft pick.
Rather give a rookie league minimum than to pay for a punter, especially if we’ve already got some cap issues.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
This.
It’s not like you find gems in the 6th-7th round that often anyway.
(Not saying we haven’t found any at all, but we’ve been extremely good/lucky in that regard.)
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Agreed.
I’d rather secure a good punter with a late round pick then have to fight for one on the UDFA market.
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Amen,
Some may hate it but useing a pick to snatch up a kicker/punter is often a smart move in the latter rounds. Succup, Mr. Irrelavant has made some big kicks for KC and was worth the pick. Getting a guy that can tombstone a kick in the five from sixty yards or more is worth useing middle level pick for a decade or more of securtiy.
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Getting a guy that can tombstone a kick in the five from sixty yards or more is worth useing middle level pick for a decade or more of security.
Do they even make punters who can do this anymore? It seems like as the years have passed this has become a lost art.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
LSU's punter...
that dude has a cannon leg…and has the speed to run fakes…I’d love to get him when he comes out
He's also a knob.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
by OldhamA on Dec 5, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That dude is awesome.
Don’t hate just cause he’s Australian.
When someone tells you that you are one in a million, what they are really saying is that there are about 1400 of you in China.
When a guy who ISN'T ALLOWED TO BE TOUCHED starts jawing with STs players, yeah I'll hate.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
by OldhamA on Dec 5, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Have you ever been told you are an angry man.
He is allowed to be touched just ask the girls in the stands he’s always talking to during the game.
I’m joking around don’t come to America and stab me or anything.
When someone tells you that you are one in a million, what they are really saying is that there are about 1400 of you in China.
No, I've never been told that.
I’ll ask the guys in pads on the field if he’s allowed to be touched. I know what answer they’ll give.
I don’t mind someone like Rivers talking trash because he gets hit every other play. A punter talking trash is just ridiculous though.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
We will agree to disagree
I think it’s hilarious and he is a great punter and I do believe you agree with that.
When someone tells you that you are one in a million, what they are really saying is that there are about 1400 of you in China.
I actually agree with this.
You’re a punter. STFU.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Same here
However if you’re a punter and you make the tackle, shit talk all you want. Because the other guy just got tackled by a punter.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Isn't that like Tea-bagging in CoD?
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")
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by The Duke Dude on Dec 5, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
And there's a difference between this guy and a guy like Kluwe.
Kluwe, from what I’ve seen, doesn’t talk trash and bump into guys during the game. He takes to Twitter for an intellectual man’s game of trash talk…the only forum in which a punter talking trash is somewhat accepted.
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
What about Kluwe?
I like him and he is the biggest smart ass in the league, lol.
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
by gdhood on Dec 5, 2011 6:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Was he the douche who got his TD nullified by taunting?
Some college punter did that.
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
James is hurt by your hatred of Aussie punters.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
As a species, Aussies kind of suck.
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by OldhamA on Dec 5, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Rec'd for "species"
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")
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by The Duke Dude on Dec 5, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
They may have been criminals, but it didn't make 'em any less british! :p
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Worse than British or criminals...
…most were just poor. Ick.
Dont count out Georgia's Drew Butler
He has a strong leg too and a finalist for the Ray Guy award…again.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 5, 2011 10:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's who I had in mind
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
With no Aussie taunting issues
I’d love to pick him up in the late rounds, everyone in Athens loves him
He's a Freshman.
And he’s 20 (I think) – he played Aussie rules growing up (he’s a bonafide Aussie) and got noticed by LSU during an exchange program. He was cut from his Aussie rules team (junior) for not being good enough.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I have not seen many
I remember when a punter was exspect to kick it out of bounds or in corner at least around ten or five.
Not to many kids are dreaming of become punters after all only one kicker has made it to canton and he was a QB for the raiders.
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Not gonna lie, I'd happily punt the ball for £400k a year.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Well I'd need £300k to deal with the locker room crap.
I’m so not a team player.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I would be happy with $400 a week lol.
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Reach for the stars and even if you fail you land on the moon.
Or something equally cliche. ;-)
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*sniff* *sniff*
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I am a proud supporter of troll hunting---- me.
When I see or hear sports segments dedicated to fantasy sports I want drive a nail in my ear because it is less painful. --also me.
That Jets puntrer was booming some for 70 yards earlier this season.
not sure how he is doing now because I haven’t been keeping up with them much.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
I have no qualms about taking a punter with a 5th round pick
they make a bigger impact than people think. I don’t hate Baker like a lot of you guys do but i sure would love an elite punter. It would be awesome to get a guy like Lechler or McBrier
It's a damn shame Guy isn't enshrined, just as Lechler never will be because of the bias against punters...
but couldn’t have said it better myself; punters can have such a huge impact on a game, it’s a little criminal that they don’t get more, respect?, than they do
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I'm not saying we don't, or we do, but
why do you say we have cap space issues? I haven’t heard anything that we do. We were a couple of million under this year. And we will be saving 8 mil from Davis contract, (no way we keep him and pay the 8 mil no matter if he is healthy or not in my opinion). So that’s 10 mil right there, plus the salaries of whoever we let go to make room for signings. Also, I believe we can pay this 2 mil we have left over, to 1 of the players salaries this year reducing their salary by 2 mil next year. Maybe someone can investigate this more thoroughly and do a post about it for us.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
I didn't say we did.
I said “if” we did.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Cap
we are 3rd from the top in avaible cap space.
The 8 mil isn't on our cap now because it's in his contract for next year......
He did take around 7 mil of our cap this year.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
Which is why I said that 8 mil will be cleared for us next season.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
TD will probably be back...just not at the same price.
He’s said he’ll take a pay cut to keep playing, and he wants to stay in Carolina.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I don't think he will be back.
I think he is too much of an injury risk to keep him.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
I think they'll bring him back one more time for $1M with incentives.
Kinda like what he got this year, but less money.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
As a signing bonus.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
spread out over length of contract. if he is cut, then it all goes against cap. they might had special language in contract, which i think they did to protect against what happen.
Would he count against the cap if he went......missing?
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by OldhamA on Dec 5, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What's that got to do with next year?
The signing bonus is different than the base salary.
We could bring TD in next year under a re-structured deal with no signing bonus (and he would do this because he’s a stand up guy) for $1M with incentives.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
If they can bring him back for a mil,
Then ok do it but have a starter quality replacement for him ready to step in. Use 1 of the special teams spots for Davis.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
He may be
But he shouldn’t be. It’s time to part ways. Let somebody else deal with his injuries.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Cap this year does not reflect cap next year
most contracts are backloaded which means some players might be getting more next year. I suspect they will pay as much signing bonus money that they can this year to make room next year but we still dont know what our salary number will be next year.
btw, I think Davis is going to stick around, the whole organization loves him, he’s an inspiration and a leader, and he is more than willing to renegotiate his contract.
Cam is also leading the NFL in rushing TDs – when did a QB last do that at this stage in the season? I almost can’t believe he’s managing that while also being a (more than) legit passer. Good times.
by rassling on Dec 5, 2011 6:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The 3rd TD run had me holding my breath, though
It wasn’t anything in particular that made it dicier except I am not sure there was anyone in that stadium or the entire TV audience that didn’t think Cam was going to run it. It does make a strong statement to punch it in when they know that’s what is coming, but those one yard runs scare me a lot more than his scrambles. Fantastic performance by Cam. I think JStew is becoming the defacto #1 RB.
Life is good...
The way Carolina beat the Bucs shows me a glimpse of what our team can accomplish once the defense is fully installed with the proper talent.
The organization has built an offensive juggernaut around the QB they handpicked to run their system at an elite level. With an off-season to add players handpicked to run this defense, the playoffs shouldn’t be far behind!
Don't give an inch...but take every yard you can!
Here is my vote...
Extremely Optimistic-The entire team, for all but eliminating the boneheaded penalties that have costs us scores every game, it seems.
They really pulled it together yesterday.
Don't give an inch...but take every yard you can!
by PantherNationn on Dec 5, 2011 6:58 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
happy to be able to turn this statement green!
here’s to not losing 70+ yards/game to penalties.
Comment on draft pick still would like to see what Brandon hogans got at CB b4 we spend a 1 on another
Think we should use are 1st rounder on LB preferably Vontaze Burfict (ASU) or Luke Kuechly (BC) But anyway back to game the way i see it keiser nebblit bell senn and others are getting great gametime reps after the season going back to there 2nd and 3rd string rotation. One ? tho why when we have a huge lead is Cam still running the ball (last thing we need is newton hurt for no reason) let D WILL earn that huge contact he’s banking.
"breathe FIRE on them Cam"...... Cam-zilla king of all QB's
See, I don't think we need a LB high in the draft.
Teams are running more and more 3 and 4 WR sets, so that means we’ll be subbing out a LB for a DB. James Anderson and Jon Beason can more than handle those duties, and we can find a speedy TD like linebacker later in the draft.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 5, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
He hasn't played in a single game yet (Hogan)
As of right now, CB is still a major need. Everyone in our secondary, with the exception of Gamble and Godfrey, are back-ups at best.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
Which is why they need to play him.
Butler looked terrible in there yesterday, let Hogan play his spot and see what the kid can do.
I know he re-aggrivated his injury or something a couple weeks ago, anybody know what his status is right now?
Take a CB…if Hogan comes on then he can play nickel….he was a 4th round pick with injury concerns..We do not owe Captain anything..i like the guy but if we can improve a position. Especially something as important as DB in a pass heavy league then we need to do it. We been beat too many times this year.
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I agree with you
I’m not sold on Captain as a #2 either, I just think it would be valuable to see what Hogan can do given that neither Butler or Stanford have shown anything and are also owed nothing. I don’t hate Munnerlyn either, just think an upgrade is needed at CB as well.
I don't think you can do that as a GM.
Can’t count any unhatched chickens.
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by ERL on Dec 5, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Nope...cause all you'll get is eggs.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
And if we don't get a chance to evaluate Hogan, then he should be considered a non-factor
As of right now, CB is a MAJOR need.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like another big corner with ball skills like Gamble...
I’m not saying that Hogan can’t play but even if he can I’m set on a CB int he 1st round this year…so far. ;)
I think we've slipped out of Claiborne range
How about Kirkpatrick. His stock has slipped a little bit, hasn’t it? I’d really like to add Mark Barron at the top of the 2nd round, too.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
It seems people just want to take a corner for the sake of taking a corner...
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I don't think it's "just for the sake of taking a corner"
It is a massive hole after all and there’s good depth in this year’s draft.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Right, but Kirkpatrick isn't exactly someone that excites me.
Although I’m biased against tall cornerbacks, I don’t think they’re as good. From what I’ve seen he’s ok, but certainly not someone I’d covet.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
With what third round pick?
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
You'll see.
Sike. Oversight on my part.
Would be nice to re-coup one, though.
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
we need help at safety too
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Although I don't think we need anymore CB to Safety prospects.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 5, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
He's highly ranked by the scouts
And pretty clearly a first-round CB at this point. But to each their own.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Low first to early second methinks.
He doesn’t seem physical enough for someone his size. His draft stock is solely based on what he runs at the Combine.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Or, another way to help the DBs is to improve the pass rush. This is where a blitzing LB (Miller-style)
would be of great benefit.
Also, for those bashing Munnerlyn, I present the following points:
- Cap’n improved a LOT from 2009 to 2010 – he was rated very highly in 2010 by PFF (I think it was)
- With Gamble being allowed to play like a real CB, and excelling, more targets are going toward Munnerlyn
- With the increased targets this year, I could speculate he will work hard to make another big jump in 2012
Looks can be deceiving; but, he’s still better as a nickle back.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Count how long the opposing QB has to dissect our secondary then get back to me.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
He's much better when he's in the Nickel
Which is where he’s supposed to be anyway.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
He's among the better Nickel corners.
he should be playing in the slot, not on the outside
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
i can't tell!
whats you proof?
He’s among the better Nickel corners.
by TheWhite Mamba on Dec 5, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
the fact that he consistently makes plays when in the nickel
the fact that he consistently made plays in the nickel at USC
I’m not getting into this debate again.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think every school offers under the table benefits.
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Innocent until proven guilty!
Remember, it’s not IF they are doing it, but how good they are at hiding it :p
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your consistently and mine are two diff things Sir!
by TheWhite Mamba on Dec 5, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
And that's fine.
You can hate on him all you want, I really don’t care CP…I mean TWM.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
by BW Smith on Dec 5, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and i will!
thank you very much! Captn big plays is a bum and you will never convince me otherwise
by TheWhite Mamba on Dec 5, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Which is why I'm not even going to try.
The point of a respectable (and adult) debate is to acknowledge the other side has a valid point, and you can’t do that, so you don’t qualify for debate material.
But it’s fine. If you want to have an unfounded, unwavering, incorrect opinion about one of our players, you have every right to do so.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
so let me get this right???
your opinion= correct
my opinion = incorrect
you sir are full of your self!
by TheWhite Mamba on Dec 5, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't say that.
I can debate someone who disagrees with me if they can present their case better than “Captn big plays is a bum and you will never convince me otherwise”.
I never said I was right and you were wrong. But thanks for trying to twist my words to make yourself feel better.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
To explain...
When I say “incorrect opinion”, I’m referencing your direct quote of “Capn is a bum…”
He’s not a bum. That’s incorrect.
If you want to discuss whether or not he’s a starting #2 corner or a starting nickel corner, then that’s a different story. But for you to say he’s a bum is far from the truth. If he were a bum he wouldn’t be on the team.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
lol i didn't twist anything
Anyway Go Panthers! LOL
by TheWhite Mamba on Dec 5, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
No
Because then there’d be no point to a comment section.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not going to be alone with you Oldham.
Geez. First you want to see my moobies, now you want to be alone? Enough already. :-)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
LOL
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 5, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
specifically the crossing routes and slants. He’s very good at tackling after the catch but can’t prevent the catch
by Penn Panther Fan on Dec 5, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
and that's the CBs number 1 duty
Prevent the catch! witch captn can’t do!
by TheWhite Mamba on Dec 5, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, a CBs number 1 duty is to prevent the run after the catch
Preventing the catch is what makes a good CB a great one.
DITTO, JAXON
also i"d like to see them pick up a ball hawking safety with coverage skills
We need a big bodied DT
Obviously, the job isn’t getting done with Fua and McClain so we may need to invest that first on a talented DT. Who are the top candidates?
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 5, 2011 10:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't spend high first-round picks on DT
Unless they’re Suh or Dareus-type talents. And there’s not a Suh, Fairley, or Dareus in this year’s draft.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
No-one at the top of the draft. There's no elite talent at DT this year.
Plenty of Fua/McClain type talents though. It’s kind of a mess for us in that sense.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
I thought McClain played great yesterday.
I think with a little more time and strength training he will be an excellent starter for us. And if we need a big boy in the middle, Frank Kearse is just that. Just needs time, like most of our young guys.
With a name like Lesbian I have to be awesome!
by Lesbian Montgomery on Dec 5, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
He played well, but would you take him with our first or second round pick?
That answer is no, which was my point. We’d be taking a DT just because if we drafted one in the first. POSSIBLY in the second if certain guys fell, but they’re not elite either way.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Oh I agree, there is no elite DT's in this class.
What we need and I’ve said it all along is a guy who can hold his ground in the middle. I just don’t think Fua will be able to do that, even with time. He will be a solid rotational guy. I just think McClain has more upside than a lot of the DT’s in this class.
With a name like Lesbian I have to be awesome!
by Lesbian Montgomery on Dec 5, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
McClain was in on several plays yesterday. maybe he’s getting over the hump. I really liked him coming out of s. fl.
Unfortunately, I read McLain hurt his knee at some point in the game.
I don’t know how serious it is, though. But yes, he looked very good yesterday; one great solo wrap-up and slam on Blount
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
And i'm not referring to goal line carries ^
"breathe FIRE on them Cam"...... Cam-zilla king of all QB's
One more ? for anyone who knows
Did Cam get that record breaking Qb rushing td ball back from Katie?
"breathe FIRE on them Cam"...... Cam-zilla king of all QB's
Yes
She graciously switch her ball out with the panther officials.
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by Panthster on Dec 5, 2011 8:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who the heck is Katie? I saw her get the ball.
But who is she and we do we know her name?
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
(Please note that from now on I shall only refer to Cam as "The Newt" and Rivera as "BAMF")
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by The Duke Dude on Dec 5, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
Ah...missed that part.
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
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by The Duke Dude on Dec 5, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Not an official jersey, it was custom made.
Said “Katie and Cam” on it.
And on the back it said "Mrs. Newton"
I thought it was neat. Hopefully she’s not a creepy stalker.
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I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
That's neither here nor there... :-)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Ah.. (Mrs. bdub in the room, huh?)
Hit the BOSS button, if need be.
LOL
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Cam has a 2 1/2 Men stalker of his own
I was waiting for her to hop over the banister like in the tv show. Lol.
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by Panthster on Dec 5, 2011 10:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Am I remembering incorrectly or wasn't Baker doing really well last year?...
Rocking the boat and righting the ship! Making the moves needed...Go Panthers!!!
To a degree... Yes
Baker has always had a big leg and on vanilla punts he does really well.
The problem is his directional punting which has always been pretty mediocre
by James Dator on Dec 5, 2011 7:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No stats to back me up but
from memory it seems he is not even average this year. From memory, I have been happy when he gets a 40-45 yard punt.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
Extremely Optimistic
Katie’s Big Round Beautiful Booty – That thing was nice, I can see why Cam gave her his ball.
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
Nahh
She’s an Eagle fan. She doesn’t care anyhing about the Panthers. It’s cool though cuz I just tell her that nobody’s perfect
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
I still say she was jail bait
But I guess that’s irrelevant
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 5, 2011 10:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
this was my impression as well.
no person over the age of 16 wears a bedazzled shirt that says ‘katie + cam = love’.
He said he'd reward the children in the stands with a football when he scored.
Just keeping his word.
LOL I don't think anyone was implying Cam was wrong to give her the ball.
Looks more like they’re pointing out that the adults here are ummmm, well nevermind.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
She was exactly 16, incidentally.
An “amazing” experience, she said.
TWSS
First back to back Panther wins since 2009!
Movin on up!
This is how I roll, animal print pants out control.
And both were road games. Good sign for good times.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
I've been saying to trade DeAngello for 3 years now
I always eventually give in and listen to those who disagree, and regain faith in Double Trouble. But at the end of every season I come back to the same thought… DeAngelo just isn’t providing much. Unfortunately a $40mil, near 30 year old RB probably isn’t worth much.
This is how I roll, animal print pants out control.
I think his contract is to high
But he gives us a speedy option that can turn the corner. Stew gives us a nice bone jarring thru the middle runner. They are a perfect combo. One usually has a better game than the other but at the end of the year they equal about the same yards. It depends on the opposing teams defensive strength as to which one flourishes.
The problem is that we need to give Stew the exact same contract which is why that contract is high. If we are going to just keep one, I would rather keep Stew, because I think his skills are more rare.
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by Panthster on Dec 5, 2011 8:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
We might rework Dwills contract so we can keep Stew around.
Maybe lower Dwills contract to around 30 million.
I'd like for Stewart to get more carries
I think DWill would be a nice change of pace back to Stewart. But it doesn’t look like that will ever be the case, since DWill starts primarily just due to seniority.
And now with an offense built around Cam, they get fewer touches… It just feels like Stewart will never meet his potential with DWill ahead of him.
This is how I roll, animal print pants out control.
I think neither will get the accolades that they would
if they were the sole running back. But… the tandem approach should ensure longevity for both of them at what is a very brutal position. I think, overall, it is better for the team to have that versatility. Cam’s abilities are just icing on the cake. Triple trouble!
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by Panthster on Dec 5, 2011 10:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
They should hire the same agent, and negotiate as a twosome. They're already seemingly joined at the hip.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
I still don't get why everybody hates on Williams....
DeAngelo just isn’t providing much.
How do you figure?
Williams has 569 yards on 119 carries for a 4.8 yard per carry average.
Stewart has 522 yards on 107 carries for a 4.9 yard per carry average.
It looks to me as if they are both providing about the same as far as yardage, carries and average. Neither player is really out performing the other.
There just seems to be this misconception by Panthers fan’s that Stewart is so much better and just doesn’t get a fair chance because of Deangelo’s contract and seniority and that Steward is a far better play. In my eyes, they both get pretty much the same opportunity and both perform at a pretty equal level.
It’s beneficial to have two different style runners, when one isn’t having success, the other seems to.
Not trying to start the argument over this again, I just don’t get it. I’m sure the contract argument will come into play, but to me personally that is just a silly argument. His contract has been offered and signed, nothing any of us say or think will change that.
Yeah, I mean D-Will is only our leading rusher.
People will be fickle from game to game. He’ll run for 100+yards and two TDs and they’ll be on his nuts.
Yesterday was one of those games where its great to have two different backs. Stewie’s running style worked better against Tampa. Maybe next week D-Will is the more effective back.
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
by ERL on Dec 5, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
This
Yesterday was one of those games where its great to have two different backs. Stewie’s running style worked better against Tampa. Maybe next week D-Will is the more effective back.
This is what I’ve noticed too…. some teams are weak in the middle and Stewie just pounds it up the middle all day. Other teams are stout in the middle and get beat by DWill around the edge and swings and screens to Stewie.
To me, it will be a sad day when/if Double Trouble are split up. Personally, I think they would miss having each other as teammates too.
I personally like the split, even if on the surface it seems ridiculous...
I mean, both players have cited continuously that they enjoy the “lighter” load it affords them, and from what I can tell they just both want to be a part of a championship team; having two all-pro talent RBs to utilize in our offense is just awesome, especially now with Chudz inserting both on the field at the same time on numerous plays (I believe Morris even pointed out during the week how much that messes with a defense’s game planning).
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
RBs in general aren't worth much
However, if we’re going to trade him, this would be the year. He has good numbers and has been healthy all year. The only problem is that with Sutton gone (why????) and Goodson all but gone, who will be J-Stew’s backup? Vaughn looks so very ordinary and a 3rd stringer to me.
YES
she did give the ball back. looked like team gave her some hats and gloves in exchange. now to the game. loved how def. stepped up and stopped the run. qb got a few scrambles but all in all a very good effort. johnson played his best game. was dominant all day. sealing the edge on runs and in backfield all day. the backups are also playing good on def. capt"n needs to go to nickel now. put anybody back there. as far as off, what can you say. there is certain plaayers in nfl that are so dynamic they are must see tv. we have one. his name is cam. he is years ahead of his time. people, we hit the motherload with this guy. if you notice, most of his runs are jusy wildcat but other teams can"t stop him. kudos to running game, lafell, nanee, i think these last 2 are more effective as lafell as #2 and nanee as nickel.
for my summation, great team win. i think i see the future and it looks very bright. wait till next year. GO PANTHERS1
as to the comment about draft, if we draft cb, take clairborne. true shutdown. most draft sites say kirkpatrick will move to safety.
Nice of her to give it back (in exchange for goodies)...
…but nicer still of Cam to run over and hand it to a fan, in the first place.
Think of it…he fully knew it was a special ball, a record setter of all-time league proportions, yet he happily and quickly gave it to a fan.
To me, that says a lot to back up what he’s been saying about the TEAM, and wins, being important to him, not individual goals or awards. There’s no I in Cam Newton.
by bigdavis on Dec 5, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
"There’s no I in Cam Newton."
That alone is well worth a rec!
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Newton probably didn't care about that ball
because he probably figures that he wants the ball that sets the new record, and that ball won’t come till later in the season.
Side Note...
Reading articles and i see is stuff about Tebow. He has come back and won this many games…I wonder if anybody in the media ever watched the Fox era in Carolina? Its called Fox ball..you run the ball play good defense keep the score low and try to win it in the end. Sometimes you do sometimes you dont. Jake Delhomme had 25 game winning drives…Fox ball gives you the chance to be the hero or the goat if your a QB. I give the kid credit for coming up in the clutch…but for people to act like this has never been done before its annoying.
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Except for when they run up on a good defense and offense. Then the games are not even close and the Tebow watch is broken
by CarolinaPantherJLO on Dec 5, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
But thats how Fox played here
He only made it to the playoffs when we had a weak schedule. That’s why we never had back to back winning seasons with him.
That’s what I am looking forward to. Playing a tough schedule and still beating teams and creating a dynasty that is good year after year. I want us to be a benchmark that other teams are compared to. That would be sweet.
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by Panthster on Dec 5, 2011 8:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
what?
The Broncos are beating good teams, including the Raiders and Jets. Tebow threw for 2 TDs. He has 13 total TDs and 1 turnover, but people still hate on him.
If the media (ahem…ESPN) would stop giving him verbal fellatio every five seconds, fewer people would hate on him.
I’ve no problem with Tim Tebow the human being. My problem is with “Tebowmania”.
(Ugh, just typing the word Tebowmania makes me throw up in my mouth.)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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by BW Smith on Dec 5, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
.
“Whatcha gonna do, brother, when Tebowmania runs wild on you?!”
Oooh, I like it.
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by OldhamA on Dec 5, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I hate you. You know that right? ;-)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
"LET'S GO!"
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
lol
maybe after every touchdown, Tebow should start the whole listening to the crowd gesture. Then do the Hogan poses. Then promply drop to one knee for a quick prayer
Sometimes you have to do something that you’ve never done to get something you’ve never had. The motivating factor is simple for me. To win, and not fear failure. - Jon Beason
by numero uno panther on Dec 5, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
*promptly
can’t spell this morning
Sometimes you have to do something that you’ve never done to get something you’ve never had. The motivating factor is simple for me. To win, and not fear failure. - Jon Beason
by numero uno panther on Dec 5, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
I don't understand the vehemence either
It’s not like he trash talks or brags. Some of his fans seem to go overboard, but unlike Cam, it seemed like his coaching staff might not give him a shot without a groundswell of support. He is very careful with the ball, so it is somewhat surprising that Fox hasn’t really gotten behind him. I don’t think he is as skilled as Cam, but I don’t hate him.
I think very few people dislike Tebow
But it’s not hard to hate the ridiculous media coverage of a game manager.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Oh no I think a lot of people dislike Tebow because of how religious he is.
If you think the Newton stuff was racial then the Tebow stuff is most certainly religious.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
And yet nobody hated Reggie White
And he was an ordained minister.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
And black…
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
He didn't point to the sky after every win, as if the Lord were on his side.
I’m offended when any player thinks, or shows, that he feels he’s specially treated by a God who watches sports and gives a damn who wins.
I’m not saying the EZ celebrations of Newton, Rodgers, Brady, and others are not personal “Look at me’s”, but they don’t bring the deity into it.
John Kasay anybody??
He was just a kicker and his image wasnt shown on tv over and over and over again, but he is as devout a christian as Tebow is and he pointed up all the time too. None of us panthers fans made a big deal of that back then did we?
by Penn Panther Fan on Dec 5, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I found it a little silly.
He once missed a kick because “god just didn’t want him to make it.”
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 5, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
That could be said about any profession or any topic.
Either you believe God is guiding your life or you don’t. Does it really bother people that he is religious and gives thanks to God? I find that a pretty petty thing to nag about.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
That is one of the most prejudice statements I have ever heard
Everyone is entitled to their religious beliefs. Maybe they believe that they do have a direct connection to their God. Their God may be different than your God. Your ignorantly acting like your religious beliefs are superior to others and that others are stupid or “egocentric” for believing what they do
Both you gentlemen misconstrued what I was saying.
Religious entitlement is unquestioned.
I was raising an objection to flaunting it, in a non-religious forum, such as sports, which implies that your side is the chosen side in the game in question, that you are the chosen one, for whom God has shown a preference by His favor.
I am not the ignorant one in this discussion, nor am I claiming that my view is the only one, or the right one. I merely raise the point that ppointing to the heavens, after a win, is tantamount to claiming that the powers that be have shown favor on you as an individual, to the detriment of the other side, which has just lost (the play, the game, whatever.)
To me, it’s tantamount, I guess, to taunting.
You may disagree with my opinion as being extreme, but I wish you wouldn’t call me ignorant, or imply that my God isn’t guiding my life. He may be guiding it, but I wouldn’t Thank Him if I were to beat you in a game.
Can you both see that distinction?
I still think thats they have every right to believe that a God gave them the opportunity or strength to accomplish what ever feet that they have accomplished or that their God does watch over them during sports. You may even be misinterpreting the gesture. For all you know they could be thanking their God for the opportunity to be their, giving them the strength to do it, or just to show respect. It is similar to how soldiers would thank their God/Gods for winning a battle.
I never implied that your God is not guiding your life or that you should be thanking him for something. I’m just saying that other may have beliefs that differ from your and that they should be respected.
No, you didn't mention anything about "guiding my life" - that was MrBernz.
I said I was replying to you both.
What you said was that I was (acting) “ignorant.”
Read your posts, and mine, and rethink to whom that might apply.
I respect their right to their beliefs – I just don’t want them showboating their religion in their sports, and I made it clear what that meant.
’Nuff said about the matter.
ok, my bad there, i thought you were directing that at me
I still believe that they should be able to showcase and share their religious beliefs and tendencies. I guess we just differ on that issue. At any rate this is not the place for a religious debate nor do I want to debate on the issue. I respectfully agree to disagree on the matter.
I didn't mean my reply to you specifically
That just looked like a good place to put it. I have heard a lot of people bashing him for the God stuff.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
Before my time, but I doubt he was as ...... vocal about his religion as Tebow is.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
He was.
He just didn’t have 900 cameras in his face all the time like Tebow does.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Yeah, like I said he was an ordained minister
It was his job to be vocal about religion.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
He lost a nike contract for it to.
but I loved the man.
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I don't recall his making a show of it on the field.
Does anyone remember his pointing to the heavens, with that “Thank you, my friend” look? I don’t, and that’s what I find offensive about Tebow.
There are believers on the opponents’ side, too, Tim, or haven’t you ever seen the group prayer after games, in the middle of the field. That’s the place, and the way, to show your religious side, not in a personal way, as if you’re the chosen one.
I underdstand your point of veiw
The thing is every time I have heard Tebow speak he his not saying “look at me,” or “we won because the other team are heathens” lol.
Eitherway pointing to sky has been done a thousand times over before him, so has the slick kneel, it is just the media (Most of whom are rather nasty when refering to him) that keep comeing back.
We live in a PC world that if some stands at all for anything their liable to get a rock thown at them if the speak above a whisper.
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I dont think...
They mean it as God is showing favoritism, but its more of a thanks be to God.
Personally, I am a fan of the Jerry Rice celebration and hate the whole sensationalism of sports. You can’t argue the results tho. I also like double troubles celebration. Go celebrate with your team. I hope Cam modifies his to more of a “look at us, the mighty panthers” and less of a look at me, I’m awesome. I’m superman. Although, he is awesome.
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by Panthster on Dec 5, 2011 10:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't like either.
For that very reason.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 5, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
very true
A lot of it has to do with that out-of-place superbowl commercial, the thinly-veiled pro-life commercial. Don’t mix political topics and football, please.
He's talking about Tebow
Not you
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly I can understand him though.
He feels God has given him a stage to share his beliefs, admittedly I share them so I’m biased. However what’s stopping you from simply ignoring him? He’s not demanding you change, he’s simply using his life and experiences as a showcase of his beliefs, in Biblical terms, letting his light shine. In a dark world I can appreciate that.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 5, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
The creaziest part is that Tebow doesnt do it
the media does. Tebow just cry for attention or jump in front of camera. He can’t control that he is now a polarizing figure that the media gravitates to. and when he being covered he just acts like himself. It’s absurd to hate on Tebow for the over exposure, if you want to be mad at someone then be mad at the media
The majority of us ARE mad at the media.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
"What's stopping you from simply ignoring him?"
What’s stopping him from keeping his beliefs to himself?
Your argument is akin to telling someone to “simply ignore” the motorist who pulls up beside you at the red light, windows open, and filthy rap music lyrics blaring at jet engine decibels blaring.
Inappropriate actions shouldn’t simply have to be “ignored,” simply because another has the effrontery to be offensive. Let that person be more circumspect in his or her behavior in public, and keep private those personal tastes or beliefs that might be invading another’s space, or conflicting with their own beliefs.
He’s not demanding that I change, obviously, but he’s demanding (on camera) that all see that the light is certainly shining on him, and in so doing, it’s implied that it didn’t shine on his opponent.
This is a philosophical discussion, perhaps not appropriate here, and I’ll withdraw from pursuing it further.
It was the implication that he was (or Kasay was) the Golden Child, the chosen one, for favoring him with success, in a sport where God could care less who wins, that I was finding objectionable.
Well obviously God cares who wins....just ask Jerry Jones.
To him, God is a Cowboys fan. ;-)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Deflating the tension...
I see what you did there :-)
This.
I don’t hate Tebow. I hate ESPN for making me listen to talk about him all the time.
I can’t even watch ESPN anymore during football season…it’s that ridiculous.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
i no longer watch ESPN and have took off many programs from my DVR….i can not deal with it. Its just painful to watch. 31 other teams and all i ever hear them talk about is Denver and Tebow
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That's the best way to get them to stop talking about him...
If enough people stop watching, and they see ratings drop, they’ll stop talking about him.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
is the NFL network as bad? i don’t have it thanks to TWC
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It's not "as bad"...
I’ve yet to determine if they’re being sarcastic and making fun of ESPN or if they’re doing it too, but last night Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders kept saying “TEBOW TIME” over and over, and Irvin would ask “when do we get to talk about Tebow” every five minutes.
They could have been making fun of ESPN. I don’t know. If they were, then I’m officially switching to NFL Network for full NFL coverage instead of giving 50/50 to both networks.
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They should do a Sat Night Live skit on tebow
Have him praise God for every little thing.
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by Panthster on Dec 5, 2011 10:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not a reply to you, this just looks like a good place to make this comment.
Read the last million comments. Now talk about how much Panther Train derailed a topic. Okay I said it, i’m done.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
Everybody does it sometimes
The issue was/is that PT does it to almost every thread and it’s usually about the same topic. Just make a damn fanpost if you want to talk about it that bad.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
This.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
He was for the game day thread, but not permanently.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Good thing it isn't permanent.
This place would have gone wild with Panthertrainium.
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They get New England in a couple of weeks
That should tell the tale.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 5, 2011 11:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I dunno, New England's Defense is pretty bad.
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by Son of a Newton on Dec 5, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I hope Ron Rivera shows everybody in the locker room this quote.... Bulletin Board Material
“I can take getting beat by a better football team. I wish they were.’’ Coach Raheem Morris of the Bucs
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Wow. If he does that, we might see a 60 point game on Dec 24.
by CarolinaPantherJLO on Dec 5, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
Besides had Smith gotten that big catch that he missed, I think he gets fired up and goes on a hot streak for 100 or 150 yards the rest of that game. I think we found out that Carolina truly is out of the basement of NFC South
by CarolinaPantherJLO on Dec 5, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
I am mot sure he will be a head coach much longer
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by Panthster on Dec 5, 2011 8:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Raheem Morris, you will be beaten by this 'lesser team' for many years to come.
#haveyouseenourquarterback
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by WilkesViking on Dec 5, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's just bitter that his seat just got a little hotter
considering he just lost by 19 at home, that’s a curious comment to say the least. That’s okay, he has to come to our house in 3 weeks and the boys will remind him who the better team is, again.
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Yep.
I could buy this if Sean Payton said it…or even Mike Smith. It’s an asshole statement, but if they said it, at least it would have some truth behind it.
But come on Raheem. The Bucs aren’t that much better than the Panthers, if they’re better at all.
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Morris did not say "I wish they were"
He said “which they were”
by Philipkcks on Dec 5, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Here's the nfl's video
http://www.nfl.com/videos/tampa-bay-buccaneers/09000d5d824bb4ea/Buccaneers-postgame-press-conference
It’s around 9 seconds in, it certainly sounds like “uh, which they were, make no mistake about that”
by Philipkcks on Dec 5, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anybody for running up the score against them next time?
I am.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Nah I'd be happy just to go ahead early and then close out the game.
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I'm just saying we should pull a Patriots
We can let up when we put up about 50 points.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
I think it would be even more fun to put in Anderson or Clausen when we go up by 50, and continue to run up the score.
“How’s my ass taste now Raheem? We’re running it up on you with our backup QB’s. Suck on that, bitch.”
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by BW Smith on Dec 5, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lol
I think we are capable of a high scoring 50+ game and clearly the bucs looked worst than the the colts which makes them one of the worst teams in the NFL. So keep your fingers crossed when we play them at home.
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by Panthster on Dec 5, 2011 9:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
+2 #Winning
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
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by The Duke Dude on Dec 5, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
I am too.
I want to beat them 73-0.
And my favorite part would be Raheem’s post game presser…
“I can take getting blown out by a better team….”
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by BW Smith on Dec 5, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I saw that quote written somewhere too but I think it's wrong.
After listening to the conference myself, it sounds more like he said “I can take getting beat by a better football team. Which they were. Make no mistake about that”
I don’t know if that’s what I’m wanting to hear but I would hope raheem isn’t such an idiot to say they’re a better football team.
by Atlantapanther on Dec 5, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That would make more sense.
I am going to go with your version until I hear about it in the media.
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I think
Carolina is an exceptional team. We have hung in every game but one this year and led in 11 of 12 of them. How are the Panthers not a good team Coach Morris?
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by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 5, 2011 11:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dude's 35 and still can't lose with grace and dignity.
It sure would have been nice to beat a team with a head coach and not a life-long defensive backs coach.
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
that was misquoted
"I can take getting beat by a better football team. xI wishx WHICH they were.’’ Coach Raheem Morris of the Bucs
by panthersnbraves on Dec 6, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Enunciate better, and you won't be misquoted.
by bigdavis on Dec 6, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This.
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I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
rec'd.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 6, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
There’s another record that Cam can break and for some reason as big as it is, no one is saying a thing about it.
Most total touchdowns accounted for as a rookie.
Peyton Manning had 26 total touchdowns in 99 to set the record. Cam tied this one yesterday with his 4 td performance. Next TD breaks another record. Amazed it hasn’t gotten any press
by CarolinaPantherJLO on Dec 5, 2011 8:48 AM EST reply actions
I know...
wonder what the media reaction will be if he does break it. What I’m getting so far is grudging appreciation from most circles, most are probably scrambling of ways to back up their pre draft statements denigrating Newton’s ability.
Life is what you make it brothers....
Oh c'mon, Newton gets a ton of press.
Clearly you guys want ESPN/NFLN to talk about him every second of every day.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
No, not really.
We’d just like them to talk about him when he BREAKS AN NFL RECORD instead of “Tebow this, Tebow that”.
“Oh look, Tim Tebow just rolled out of bed. Aww, how cute, he’s wearing Cam Newton pajamas. Oh by the way, speaking of Cam Newton, he broke some obscure NFL record yesterday. Yeah…anyway, back to Tebow. Looks like he’s going with Honey Nut Cheerio’s for breakfast this morning, just like he did yesterday morning. That’s the kind of consistency you want in a quarterback.”
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by BW Smith on Dec 5, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
LOL @
Looks like he’s going with Honey Nut Cheerio’s for breakfast this morning, just like he did yesterday morning. That’s the kind of consistency you want in a quarterback.
Looks like his spooning motion is improving too, Joe.
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I'll have you know my spooning technique is perfect (call me, ladies!).
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
And spooning with forking leads to little sporks running around.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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Oh....NOW you tell me. :-) j/k
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too much time on your hands!
I hate spooning it’s too hot! i can only handle it for a few min at a time! i just like the forking anyway!
by TheWhite Mamba on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
I totally heard Jon Gruden's voice for those last two sentences.
Sprinkle in some, “I tell ya what, Jaws…” and you’ve got yourself a high quality sound byte.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
I started to do that, but I figured I'd leave Chucky out of this one, lol.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
lol
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I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
So many "Gruden face" pictures
So little time…
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
Got ya covered..
I tell ya what Jaws… nobody, and I mean NOBODY, can pour milk on part of a balanced breakfast like Tim Tebow. This guy… this guy right here, not only can he hurt you in the cereal bowl. But he can slice bananas, toast bread, and even spread a nice even layer of Jam on there when it matters most. This guy is a rare talent, not since Smacks the Frog have we seen such impact at the breakfast position.
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by Tater596 on Dec 5, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 12 recs
rec’d
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Good. I don't have to do it all the time now. I have a worthy fill-in.
Well done. Rec’d.
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Jaws:
You’re absolutely right Jon….let’s take a look at how Tebow takes care of the plastic tab on the carton of milk. Look at that…consistent, short, and just enough to get the lid off and get the milk to the bowl. And watch this, for further measure, look at this peel here on the banana. Perfectly executed peel play by Tim Tebow…the champion of breakfast.
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by BW Smith on Dec 5, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Thoroughly awesome.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! (or least some really awesome Under Armour commercials)
FREE BIYOMBO! (I'm looking at you, Fuenlabrada)
Brilliant.
Simply brilliant.
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
When it was working it was a thing of beauty to me. - Vagus
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by The Duke Dude on Dec 5, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Meh, he's a polarizing figure.
One that has won 5 games straight. I can’t blame them for giving him so much coverage. For the record Rich Eisen clearly hates him.
Newton gets his press and let’s be honest the QB rushing TD record IS obscure. If he doesn’t win ROY after the season THEN you can bitch about his lack of press.
Even then, quite frankly, I don’t care. We have our franchise QB – one who terrifies opposing DCs and is going to win us a lot of games. I don’t care that ESPN/NFLN aren’t worshiping him.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Another thing that bothers me: John Skelton is 3-1 since taking over for Kolb in Arizona. Any word on that? Nope. Just Tebow.
It’s not just a “they don’t talk about Cam” issue. It’s they don’t talk about anyone else other than Tebow.
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They've won regardless of Skelton though. Hell even Kolb managed to win yesterday (and he's mediocre at best).
Tebow has had flashy, game winning drives to hang his hat on.
Also Skelton didn’t win a Heisman Trophy, two National Championships nor was he picked in the first round. The guy was always goin to get publicity if he amounted to anything.
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Let's be honest here...you or I could have won a Natty Champ with Tebow's Florida roster.
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I used to think the kid was overrated.
Until the season after he left Meyer had to use three different QBs to replace Tebow’s production in the spread option (one to pass, one to run and one who could do a little of both). He’s an unusual talent at the QB position, but he’s certainly talented and a big part of why the Gators were so dominant.
This coming from a Miami fan of course.
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Of course.
He is talented…just not as an NFL QB. He’s a great RB…but he lacks a quality NFL arm.
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Cam is a better RB and has a incredible arm….
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That's not a fair comparison though, Newton is pretty much the most physically gifted player in the league.
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Let's be honest, he'd be a crap RB.
He’s a good running QB, but that’s because the O is blocking with 10 when he runs or the D is defending the pass.
As for the arm – it’s strong enough. Inaccurate with a funky motion, yes, but it works.
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And he has the most awful looking deep ball I've ever seen for an NFL QB
He launches wounded ducks down the field. I give him credit for being able to hit them on the money at times, but he really couldn’t make it any uglier if he tried.
No
Tebow has won games.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Zing!
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don't see it as obscure with relation to some of the "new records" out there.
considering an age where we’re given a new “longest play in the 5th minute of the fourth quarter” record, to see an actual 35 year old stat line record eclipsed was pretty awesome.
by Lost_terrapin on Dec 5, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
Furthermore, Cam broke it in 2 fewer games.
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Yeah, it'd be better if Cam broke a REAL record
Like longest touchdown run by a QB in the last minute of the 4th quarter or overtime with his team tied or trailing. THOSE are the kind of records that get players into Canton.
I hope JdeL WAS being sarcastic.
The way it came across to me, was as a diminishment of Cam’s accomplishments.
It was sarcastic
Sorry for the confusion. It was just a lot to put in the sarcasm font and I was hoping it’d still come across as sarcasm even without the font.
lol
caught that one instantly. perfect example of one of those “records” being discovered twenty times daily.
by Lost_terrapin on Dec 5, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
In all fairness
No other two QBs are getting the same amount of press as Newton and Tebow. They are redefining how the game is played and are electrifying their respected fan bases. As Panther fans we should be grateful that the more talented of the two plays for our team.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 5, 2011 11:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Newton really isn't getting special treatment
They just ran through very brief highlights of the game and mentioned the record as a side note before moving on. I haven’t heard them stop to discuss his play like they have Tebow, Rodgers, etc.
In fairness
Everyone was talking about Newton non stop early in the season when he broke records.
At this time of the year, People are going to talk about playoff contenders. Yes, Tebow will be talked about. He was on a team that was in the gutter of their division and after he became the starter, his team now has the lead in their division. That is actually headline making news.
He also actually played really well yesterday. 3 total TDs, 10/15 for 202 yards. He threw for more than 13 yards per attempt.
I think Newton would be getting significantly more coverage if the Panthers were fighting for a wild card spot.
Notice that the Bills have completely vanished in media coverage now that they’ve fallen out of real playoff contention, likewise, the Jets haven’t gotten nearly the coverage during midseason that they did in preseason and early season.
Yes, Newton is a better player than Tebow. However, If you’re not in the playoff hunt, you won’t have a lot of media coverage at this point in the year in the NFL.
There's also the fact that the media prefers controversial topics for page hits
Cam was controversial, but is no longer. No one can or does deny that he’s the real deal and is getting it done, and there’s no sound bytes to take out of context anymore.
It was a little creepy.
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So many things to be optimistic about going forward, great performance
To add to what James said above:
Legedu Naanee – Extremely Optimistic – Despite playing hurt, finally got his first TD catch of the season in a form we wouldn’t expect early in the year… a tough catch. Also chipped in a couple more receptions and a 30 yard completion to SuperCam. Naanee continues to improve and show why the coaching staff trusts him to be on the field for most snaps. We may think Legedu is a one year deal, but I think the reality is that he may be around longer than that as he is becoming more consistent and Cam trusts him.
Team Discipline – Extremely Optimistic – Only 2 penalties on the team. +1 for a missed facemask, but then -1 for the ticky tack call on Munnerlyn. The Panthers cleaned up their act on the road for the 2nd straight week after a 6 penalty outing in Indy.
Finishing Games- Extremely Optimistic – It seems that Ron Rivera’s message to “stick the knife in and turn it” did not go unheard. The team has responded with 2 straight games of finishing off their opponents in style. While we still need to get tougher on D, we are playing more opportunistic, and there are plenty of examples in the NFL where an opportunistic D can make up for being below average overall.
Terrel McClain- Somewhat Optimistic – The rookie continues to improve in the 2nd half of the season, as he showed better gap discipline yesterday and helped meet the challenge of stopping LeGarrette Blount. There is reason to be excited about his future. You have to like his size and athleticism, especially with the knowledge he will get better in the offseason with pro level conditioning and tutelage.
Andre Neblett – Somewhat Optimistic – Thrust into a starters role in pregame warmups, Neblett did an admirable job with the extra load he was asked to carry. However, we have seen this before with Neblett, his short career so far has been marred with inconsistent play. We sometimes forget he is only a 2nd year player. As long as he continues to rise to the occasion, he will find himself cemented in a role as a rotational guy on the interior D-Line.
Greg Olsen – Somewhat Pessimistic – I’d like to see some more toughness out of him. I was led to believe by both highlights and word of mouth that he was a TE who could make difficult catches. We did not see that yesterday. Sure, in both occasions there was DPI, but I think both the TD pass and the intermediate route on the sideline were catchable balls regardless. Olsen is a permanent fixture in this offense, and I cannot be happier about his acquisition, but I’d like to see more grit.
DeAngelo Williams – Somewhat Pessimistic – Against a soft Bucs D, I would expect a better statline than 11 carries for 27 yards. He is clearly being outplayed by the stronger and more aggressive Jonathan Stewart. I think our edge blocking this year is not what it could be with Bell in the lineup, so D-Lo is bouncing it outside and meeting a lot of resistance. He needs to become a better North-South runner if he wants to maintain relevance in this system.
Sherrod Martin- Extremely Pessimistic – While he didn’t go anything spectacularly bad yesterday, this ranking is influenced by his recent play as a whole. The point is, yesterday he did nothing to HELP the team win on defense, and was still caught out of position on several occasions. The more i watch him, the more I move Safety up my board of needs for this offseason.
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by Tater596 on Dec 5, 2011 9:37 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
My thoughts found their way into tater's brain again.
Rec’d.
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Definitely agree with McClain
He played a very soild game…it was refeshing to hear our DT’s names in a good light the majority of the game in stead of hearing how they were getting blown up
Tater, you might think about adding Greg Hardy to the Optimistic category.
While he got no sacks, he was constantly disrupting the pocket, adding up Hurries and Hits, and deflecting 2 passes. I believe he’d have had a sack, had we not been called for a penalty on the play (Munnerlyn, IIRC)
Actually, I think the Panthers had the best pass rush of this year, and would’ve had 3-4 more sacks, has they faced a less elusive and mobile QB. This will come into play next week, vs Matt Ryan.
Whoops!
I honestly thought James had posted about Hardy. Guy deserves all the credit in the world.
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Hardy is the man
He was the sole reason for the interception that landed in Keiser’s hands.
by Atlantapanther on Dec 5, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Personally, I thought that should have been called a Sack, Fumble, Int, all in one.
Didn’t look to me as if the arm were going forward, when it came loose.
That would have made it a S/F – the oddity of being caught in the air would’ve made it a trifecta of defensive plays.
You think that if the ball had hit the ground, there wouldn’t have been a replay review, to determine whether or not the arm was going forward?
That whole play was just a comedy.
Honestly… Johnson is lucky that the Kraken didn’t smash him into the briny depths as unabated to the QB as he was.
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He also had hat one play that he got to Johnson, knocked the ball out nad Johnson caught it himself.
I honestly think that should have been a sack/fumble but it wasn’t listed as one.
It got nullified by a BS holding call against Munnerlyn...
otherwise it may have gone down as a sack/fumble
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Release the Kraken!
His presence didn’t go unnoticed yesterday. I look forward to seeing what he and Big Money do with a solid DT and a healthy linebacker corps.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 5, 2011 11:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love The Kraken
and he has been playing ok but his production has severely dropped off. He hasnt had a sack in 7 games. 7 GAMES!!!
He's been getting into the backfield though
For whatever reason, he just can’t quite get there before the ball is released
I think someone pointed out it was the Kraken that had a sack when Munnerlynn got the penalty that erased the sack.
He also had the pass deflection that turned into an int. Whether he gets a sack or not, he is getting pressure on the qb.
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That was I.
Most serious football analysts (and coaches) judge a DE’s effectiveness by a total of Sacks, Hits, and Hurries, and in that Hardy ranks very high.
It is the public who only see the Sack stats, and think that’s all it takes.
Olsen
While I agree it wasn’t his best game receiving, he was a beast at blocking. He probably should have had the TD.
I haven’t seen the whole game yet, but so far in the first half, its as if Sherod isn’t even on the field.
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by Panthster on Dec 5, 2011 10:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Olsen made some blocks, missed others badly.
On at least 2 of the runs where D-Will got stuffed at the line, it was from an Olsen non-block.
He and Shockey are asked to block big DEs on some plays, and I know it’s tough, but that’s the fact.
I'm really gettinf tired of the D-Will bashing
EVERY time he has a less than spectacular game the fans jump on him and claim J-Stew to be the better back. I think it’s only because J-Stew makes the sexy runs while D-Will quietly gets the job done. D-Will averages more yards per carry and is the starter for a reason. A lot of it is also opportunity. In the games yesterday i saw D-Will get hammered by 2 or 3 guys in the back field as soon as he got the ball. He can’t control that and those negative yards really hurt him. I’m not trying to claim that he is leaps and bounds better than J-Stew but I think the guy really deserve some more respect for what he does.
I'm optimistic because the team is learning how to win.
That’s more important than what draft position we’ll end up with.
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But, but, but....
Justin Blackmon…..
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
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I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Honestly my big knock on Blackmon is that he's not an athlete that creates mismatches.
In the sense that he’ll run a 4.4/5 and he’s about 6’1". So he’s not going to out jump many NFL CBs, nor is he going to run by them with ease. You don’t spend a Top 5/10 pick on a guy like that.
Don’t get me wrong I think, in the right system, he’ll be a very good NFL WR, but he doesn’t strike me as an elite player.
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Shoulda taken Mt. Cody...
He’s got plenty of “ass-load”.
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And "tit-load"
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yes. That too.
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Because it's his job to be strong, fat, and hard to move.
And he covers all three of those. Imagine Ma’ake Kemoeatu with HIS shirt off.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah the Ravens put him on a diet.
Part of the reason why they’re so damn good – they recognised the talent, but got him into shape quickly.
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There's only one of y'all I want to imagine with their shirt off.
And it’s certainly not Kemoeatu.
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Yes, he is.
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Cause you wanna see my moobies, Oldham.
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by ERL on Dec 5, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Speed is overrated
a lot of people dismiss Blackmon for his speed but plenty of WR make a career without it. Reggie Wayne, Ochocinco, Jerry Rice, Moose, Fitzgerald, Donald Driver, Wes Welker, Hakeem Nicks, and T.O all made a great career without speed. All of them are also under 6’4. Size and speed helps but a player doesnt need it to be great. Blackmon is a playmaker and gets the job done, it doesnt matter how he does it. That being said he is 3rd on my board right now
cough...spread offense receiver....cough
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Let's be honest - we were fortunate to be playing 2 backup QBs, with weak teams.
But you’re correct that the mindset of a winner makes the nest week easier to repeat it.
Big MO is rolling now.
I'm not sure with the way Freeman has been playing that it would have been much different yesterday...
We still stuffed their main weapon (Blount), and we basically moved at will on their D; I was actually really frustrated that we let Johnson do as much as he did lol
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Keeping flags off the field
Leads to success. Everyone played well for the most part, but not having any big penalties to slow/stop the momentum is the intangible here. If we can play clean ball like that every Sunday then we win. No big PI calls, no stupid personal foul calls, or unsportsmanlike conduct calls.
BTW, I was a little off with my prediction of 89 getting 476 yards on 2 catches. Maybe next week. :)
Steve Grogan? Never heard of him.
What I liked seeing is no False Starts, or Offsides, or Illegal Procedures.
These are discipline, mental, mistakes that have killed us on drives in the past; now they’re cured.
Penalties of aggression are forgivable, so long as they occur before the whistle, not like the idiotic ones the Lions keep committing.
For me...
This feels good, two wins in a row… seemed like forever and a day. What makes it better is it was a divisional game, keeping us from losing them all. I would love to see this team go 8-8. I know you may think I’m dreaming and I even think that I’m dreaming but… it is possible.
"It is now official... Cam Newton is now the face of our franchise.
I love how the Bucs sbnation bloggers can't digest this victory
So they’re just posting pics of their trashy cheerleaders
Don’t hate on their cheerleaders.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
They all look like prostitutes
I mean….they are from Tampa Bay
by Atlantapanther on Dec 5, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
and the downside is what?
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 5, 2011 11:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
eh details
That’s why protection was invented
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 5, 2011 11:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Raheem Morris' foot in mouth moment.
Quote of the Week III
“I can take getting beat by a better football team. I wish they were.’’
— Tampa Bay coach Raheem Morris, on the Carolina Panthers.
from Peter King’s column on cnnsi.com
Keiser!
Wow. That farmer-tanned work horse is kicking butt. He has performed very well in his last 3 games and is a real gem of find. We are going to have to sign him long term.
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by Panthster on Dec 5, 2011 10:16 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Slow down, buddy.
We own his rights for several years, there’s no need to move to lock a guy up after a few good games.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Keep him hungry.
As long as Keiser keeps rolling his opponents, eventually we can make him Permanente
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I see what you did there.
Well played.
I kinda like power running football though. It’s iike a bloody violent ballet…
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by The Duke Dude on Dec 5, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Great rotational player, who gives McDermott the option of moving either Hardy and/or Johnson to DT for pass-rushing downs.
I notice our DL is becoming very malleable, with no set place for anybody to line up. This will cause blocking assignment problems for an OL, with even Applewhite and yes, Norwood, spotting as DE for a play or two. Throw in Kearse and Neblett, and we got a good number of penetrative pressures yesterday.
Rotation
you can tell these coaches are coaching these guys up.
Morris
this guy is on hot seat. you know he is also their def.cor. i just went on tb blogs and they have given up on this guy. maybe him and gm will get the boot. he was never qualified to be head coach anyway.
After Cam threw the TD pass to Legedu Naanee, I professed my love for him by saying this...
“If I am going to have a man-crush in my life, it may have to be Cam Newton”
Which my lovely girlfriend posted on facebook immediately.
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The hardcore Bama fans I am friends with immediately professed their dislike
I told them to get over it, school is out, they only had to deal with him for one year. They got beat, square and fair.
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The Bama fans can shut up. They've somehow managed to get into the NC game, no?
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Exactly.
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It makes a mockery of the whole system really.
Should have been Ok St.
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Perhaps.
But I think the coaches and other voters know that Bama would take Okla St. behind the woodshed.
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Would they?
I’m not so sure, given 4 weeks to prepare, that many teams could stop their passing attack. They’d have given LSU a game put it that way.
Alabama lost at home to LSU. That should rule them out of a rematch (and I much prefer Alabama to LSU – I think it’s the garish colours)
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The real mockery is that VT and Michigan got in the Sugar Bowl
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It's ridiculous that the ACC got two teams in BCS bowls
I know it’s the rule that a conference can only have two teams in BCS bowls, but Arkansas was more than deserving of a BCS bid.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
This.
So were Georgia and South Carolina.
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lol I was reluctantly pulling for them too...
Just to see what would happen if there were no undefeated teams and about 8 teams with one loss.
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They were saying LSU stays at #1 even with a loss.
Which makes no sense to me.
Basically I’m frustrated with the SEC full stop. Or rather the higher education requirements involved with the ACC – or at least Miami.
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Me either.
I was hoping Georgia would beat them by 30+ points to force the polls to drop LSU and let the fighting begin as to which 2 teams should play for the title.
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It's really not that hard to do either.
The BCS will cry because they’ll “lose money”. Well, it’s simple: hold the playoffs at the BCS bowls.
Rose gets the #1 vs. #8 game.
Fiesta gets the #2 vs. #7 game.
Sugar gets the #3 vs. #6 game.
Orange gets the #4 vs. #5 game.
After that, rotate it every year as to who gets the semi-finals and championship games. Fans get their playoffs, the NCAA gets it’s champion, and the money grubbing whores BCS Committee get their money.
Voila! Problem solved.
As for the rest of the bowls? Leave them as is for the teams that didn’t make the playoffs.
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by BW Smith on Dec 5, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
We laugh, but it’s sad that it’s true.
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Yup. That (money) is the only reason we don’t have a legitimate national champion in major college football.
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Hey easy on my Bulldogs
They didn’t do anything different that the previous teams who played LSU could do. Including ‘mighty’ Alabama. LSU made corrections and Georgia’s motivation dissipated. Georgia played tough for 30 min but they needed to play tough for 60.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 5, 2011 11:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
They dropped two TD passes then quit in the second half.
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I'd rather see the better teams
And I’m an ACC fan.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
This.
I don’t care which conference the teams are from. I want to see good games. Personally I think the 10 best teams should get in the BCS, regardless of conference, with the top 2 playing in the title game.
At least under the current system.
What I’d really like to see is an 8 team playoff with the top 8 BCS teams playing at the BCS bowl sites with a rotating location for the title game.
Hey NCAA: it’s called a playoff, and it’s how a champion should be determined.
/end rant
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It's how they do it in FCS
Even though App just got eliminated :(
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Yep...and the system works.
Sorry for App St.
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No big deal, we did not play well this season
We found ways to win, but there seemed to be a general sense of guys not playing ot their potential. I was not surprised we got eliminated.
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See if the Panthers will trade you Armanti for Brian Quick
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I'd take that trade
Armanti could simply throw the ball to himself, what with his NFL WR training and all.
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They got in the Sugar Bowl, because someone had to sweeten the deal for some BCS voters
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I posted a blog on Dawg Sports
Highlighting the flaw of the system. Honestly, Ok St deserves the shot but they are going to be denied by mere percentage points derived by a computer?
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 5, 2011 11:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol
My wife makes fun of me too. I’ve pretty much got a man crush on him too.
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Can someone tell me why Andre Neblett has been on the bench all season?
Is it a coincidence that our run defense improves with him playing NT or a tilt nose? Me thinks not.
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It's a one game improvement
but I would be okay with giving him another start…Turner will be the better test
Blount is a very good RB. We sold out on the run because Johnson can't throw.
So really, Ryan/Jones/White/Gonzalez will be the better test.
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Godfrey was in the box much of the day, but there were more tackles from the DL and LBs than normal.
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Also
The absence of gaping holes opening up in the interior line was a welcome surprise. Fua is getting better as well. Maybe we’ll be ok on the line and spend our high picks elsewhere.
Yeah, sorry I should have been more specific
I thought Fua played well against the colts and had a couple of nice moments.
Tebow
give him credit. He leads his team to wins .
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by BW Smith on Dec 5, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fox-ball in a QB.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Nah, Delhomme was Fox's perfect QB.
He could hit the deep strike too. Granted most of that was Smith bailing him out.
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He could also hit oppossing safties and cbs
without fail later on.
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LOL I love how much people bitch about hearing of him
and all we can do is talk about him.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 5, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Four weeks ago Thomas Keiser was on the Practice Squad.
He has played three games, has three sacks, two hurries, a pass defended and an interception. He’s dropped into coverage, tackled runners, rushed the passer AND played special teams.
If you want to play for Ron Rivera, look at Thomas Keiser.
Look at Andre Neblett.
Look at Brandon Lefell.
I SAID it would be fun to watch.
It IS happening.
by criolle johnny on Dec 5, 2011 10:45 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
I love it. Because guys have a chance to work hard and earn playing time. Fox made this more difficult.
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the old one was not bad just
would not adapt his game plan at all.
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elway is making him in denver!
but i guess he got what he wants….a qb thats better at running with the ball….than throwing it…. but i do have to say 11- 1 td-int ratio is pretty good!
by TheWhite Mamba on Dec 5, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Elway
he isn"t going to put up with fox"s crap.
I'm astounded he hasn't thrown more picks
With his inaccuracy you’d think he’d be racking up the INTs. I guess that says something about his decision making.
He is throwing deep to the WR with single coverage. Otherwise he doesn't take the shot.
So some of that is Fox and his conservative approach, as well.
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by ERL on Dec 5, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I haven't seen a full Bronco game, but it may be that defenses are stacking the box, daring Tebow to beat them with his passing (as we saw vs Cam in the first few games).
When he sees some disguised zone coverages, let’s see how many picks he throws. What I HAVEN’T seen is his being able to fit the ball in tight spaces, as Can did yesterday, on the laser TD to Naanee.
When you can do that, you’ve arrived as an NFL QB.
He cannot.
His delivery is so slow that said tight spaces are no longer spaces at all by the time the ball leaves his hand.
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
Rivera isn't tied to any of these players, which is good.
The big test will be benching Fua when he’s healthy. If he does that then I’ll believe that he’s just looking for guys who can contribute.
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by Jake Humphrey on Dec 5, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Well,
Rivera isn’t tied to any of these players, which is good.
That Cam Newton guy is pretty good...
"My mom used to always say, If your hungry, go eat. If you can't breath, breath. I wanna win, so if I don't win, I'm going to pitch a fit." -Cam Newton
by Son of a Newton on Dec 5, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
This was by far the best game to watch all season so far as a Panther fan.
I love that Cam just simply loves the game. His smile just brightens my day each time he scores. (So do the 6 points!)
Also, off topic, but I have 2 tickets to the Falcons game this weekend that I am selling. If anyone is interested, let me know or message me. I figured I would check here first with actual Panther fans before I go to craigslist or another site.
THIS IS (not) THE YEAR!
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They are uppers. Section 535.
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by CubsPanthersTarHeels on Dec 5, 2011 12:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
all joking aside i sit in lower section
by TheWhite Mamba on Dec 5, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, dang, I was about to accept your offer.
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How much, what row?
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by Swamp Panther on Dec 5, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Row 23. Face is 52 each, I’ll sell both for 75.
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I wish you did too, I’d like to get rid of the tickets.
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Extremely Optimistic: Playcalling
I loved what we did on both sides of the ball. Our offense has so many weapons. If Chud keeps throwing in wrinkles like the double pass, the option, and Double Trouble both on the field, our offense will be nearly impossible to gameplan for. And to everyone clamoring for more run plays: our run-pass ratio was almost 2:1 yesterday.
As for defense, our DLine was rotating all over the place. I’m sure that contributed to the increased pass pressure and run stuffing as it’s harder for the offensive linemen to know their assignments with players lining up in different spots.
The players are getting more comfortable in both the offensive and defensive schemes and it’s starting to show.
Chudz seems to have listened to our calls for a more balanced commitment to the run, because it has been just that the past two games...
loving it
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
It was mostly a manifestation of playing with a lead for a change.
The last 2 games, we’ve never been behind. Isn’t that a welcome change?
With our diverse running attack, and talent, once our Defense improves, and we play from ahead more and more often, everything will feed on itself, positively.
Chudz seems to be dialing back on his love for the "jugular shot" though, which is something that (arguably) hurt us early on when we had leads...
He seems a lot more to inclined to consistently go to the run game, rather than just go to it in chunks; it shows a growth in patience on his part as an OC that will pay off for us
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Provided his knee holds up...which was the cause for concern.
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In 5-6 years, not so much.
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by Son of a Newton on Dec 5, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
We need to hire someone to code a script that auto-deletes any comment with the word Tebow in it.
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I hope they replay this game on NFL network this week. My internet connection was
cutting on and off all weekend so I was only able to see three freaking plays. I may have to
drive to work on Sundays from now on to watch the games.
How did they D stop Blount? Was it primarily the front seven or Godfrey/corners?
The DT's (Neblett, McClain and Kearse) did a good job eating up blocks.
That allowed the LBs and Godfrey (who was in the box all day) to make plays. Blunt did not appear to be too inspired, but take nothing away from our defense.
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
Turner CAN be held down.
I’m not guaranteeing we will, but he only gained 44, on 14 carries, vs the Texans.
He’s a better player at home than on the road.
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