Fair Or Foul: Dwayne Wade And LeBron James Troll Cam Newton
by James Dator on Dec 28, 2011 10:32 PM EST
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In a game surprisingly dominated by Charlotte for much of the game the Heat inevitably fought back, and with mere seconds remaining Wade hit what resulted in being the game winning shot. Instead of taunting the Bobcats, or cheering with his teammates he turned to where Newton was sitting, and well... a picture says a thousand words
Yes, that's Wade mocking Cam's now signature 'Superman' celebration. It doesn't show it in this photo, but LeBron James was at Wade's wing doing it too. Now Wade and the Heat are playing it off as 'good fun', as one would expect, and really I don't care a whole bunch. I kind of think it's pathetic to mimic someone from a different sport, but hey I know it's not the NBA in 1990 anymore; the legendary caliber of trash talking has denigrated into making fun of cancer patients in the case of Kevin Garnett, or in Wade's case mimicking Newton. Some view this as a badge of honor, after all, how long has it been since someone like Newton got this kind of transcendent national attention?
So I thought I'd turn to you, the CSR community to get your take. Fair, or foul? Was Wade's mimicking all in good fun, or something else.
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I was upset at first but that was after a tough loss the Bobcats could and should have won….When TWO of the NBA’s biggest stars take time to address you personally with your signature move..i say you are not Next but more so NOW. Cam is and will be apart of pop culture moving forward. Congrats Cam you are a Entertainer and Icon
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by MMA_PITBULL on Dec 28, 2011 10:35 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
this.
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by bigred28655 on Dec 28, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Cam has officially arrived as an entertainer and icon...
Cam’s presence at and D-Wade’s and LeBron’s moves at the game are now news on nfl.com.
D-Wade, LeBron strike ‘Superman’ pose in front of Newton
I find this part a little silly:
No word if Newton’s presence at the game doubled as a covert mission to recruit LeBron over to the NFL. Montana to Rice. Brady to Moss. Newton to James?
Ummm…I kind of doubt it.
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
Considering our problem is closing out games in the 4th quarter...
I don’t think LeBron is going to be that much of a help.
It’d be like replacing a flat tire with an empty rim…you still can’t drive the car.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Isn't this like saying "Newton could play for the Bobcats!"?
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Newton has better shot with Bobcats then James does with the panthers.
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Dwade just tweeted this like 30 mins ago
Not showing up #Cam Newton yall— jus paying respect to one of the great athletes 2day..
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tempest in a teapot
They shared smiles at the time, just some ballers having fun. Some of the press and a few fans make way more out of it than that. Move along; nothing to see here…
As long as they're not "Tebowing".
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
by Efury on Dec 28, 2011 10:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm not that peeved about it...I don't really even care.
I just wish Lebron would have done a 3/4 SuperCam, so he would be consistent with his play on the court.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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by BW Smith on Dec 28, 2011 10:39 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I'm sure Cam wasn't phased
He was probably thinking he would bowl right over his half an ass on the grid iron. Of course when Carolina travels to Miami Cam and Co. will need to bring the baby powder. Heat still suck.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 28, 2011 10:46 PM EST reply actions
It's not fair or foul...
Just lame. I’m starting to think that D-Wade is just kinda bad a picking at people. (ex. D and Lebron making fun of Dirk being sick before getting handled in the Finals last year…)
Just when I thought you couldn't be any dumber, you go and do something like this... AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!
by Dman304 on Dec 28, 2011 10:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
agreed!
I would have to agree with you, Im sure it wasn’t done “all in fun” as they claim. But, it was really a stupid move to make someone mad. All they’re doing it showing the world that Cam is spreading like wildfire. They’re hateful towards everyone it seems and just needed a target at that point.
by ncpanthersgirlinaz on Dec 29, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I think it was a dick move...from two thirds of the NBA's dick-trifecta. Can't win? Stack the deck.
You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson
Wade on doing the Cams superman move:
After Wade’s shot gently fell through the net, he turned to Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton seated courtside and imitated Newton’s popular Superman touchdown celebration by pretending to rip open his shirt.
“It’s a great homage to him,” Wade said. “He was laughing. He was cracking up. But it was great respect to him. I wasn’t trying to show nobody up. It’s about how much respect we have for the athletes.”
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
I'm sorry but if Wade means that then I'd rather they have just been mocking him.
The thought of these divas that find nothing wrong with jumping ship in small market Toronto and Cleveland to load up in Miami for a championship somehow wanting to ham it up with our small market superstar is concerning to me.
You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson
by Swamp Panther on Dec 28, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Let's not start panicking just yet.
I think this was a simple case of a Wade trying to have some fun while paying tribute to Cam.
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
Exactly
It’s a pretty cool gesture on their part because it shows they are paying attention. Think about that, Cam and our Carolina Panthers being transcedent to that degree.
A lot of the over-reaction is coming from people who dislike the NBA, LeBron/Wade, and the idea of the Heat big 3 to begin with. Its time to get over that. If Cleveland wanted to keep him they should have brought in some better talent than Antwan Jamison and a washed up Shaq. LeBron constantly gets called greedy, but all of them took less money to play together in Miami. You play the game to win championships, and the most effective way to do it is with multiple star talent (see Shaq+Kobe, Garnett+Pierce+Allen, Kobe+Gasol+Bynum, etc)
"You know the new iPhone? It’s faster, more powerful and smarter. It’s revolutionary. Why can’t the quarterback be like that? Why can’t you be a big, tall, fast, quick, strong, smart, mobile quarterback who’s unstoppable?"
-Cam Newton
by carolinapillpusher on Dec 29, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
i agree, after giving the cavs years to assemble a winning team around him bron had to do what he hd to do.
lets pretend like there is any comparison to the talent that say jordan had on his teams in the 90’s, or kobe has had in the 00’s. hell lets even compare last years mav’s to the cavs while bron was there. jason terry, the matrix, tyson chandler, all more talented than anyone else bron had to help him. cant fault him for trying to win imho.
"Don't tell me about the pain, just bring me the baby" Cam Newton
by braves&panthers4ever on Dec 29, 2011 12:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Would you try to go to the worst college so you could say that you finished with bad teachers?
Would you go out of your way to loose a few limbs so you can say that you did it and you were disabled? NO nobody in the history of anything with any brain power has ever tried to make things harder for themselves. Why should this case be any different? oh wait it isn’t. People don’t just stay at their old crappy job when a completely better option is available, do they? If they do then get back to me.
by DoubleTTB22 on Dec 29, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
This is sports
It’s really not comparable with regular jobs. This is just a case of Bosh and James not being able to win a ring and stacking their team with a proven winner in Dwayne Wade. They represent everything that is wrong with professional sports.
How isn't it comparable? It is their job. Their teams just couldn't get it together unlike the teams of Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and Michael Jordan. Can you say that these teams weren't loaded with good players.
Nobody ever says that the Lakers had to many good players and that they should separate. People just have a really bad way of expressing what they actually feel. Their is nothing that makes sense about people saying they shouldn’t have gone to the same team. They just don’t like that they said they were going to win a ton of rings and how Lebron left. Anything else is just blind hatred.
Maybe it's just me not understanding the lack of competitiveness of athletes
If it were me, and I wanted to win a championship, I’m going to do everything in my power to bring a ring to the place that brought me in to do just that. I’m not going to up and leave to take the easy way out. Maybe I’m alone in that thinking and maybe it’s stupid, but I would feel like I was cheating if I called up some buddies to make a super team to get an easy championship while a couple hundred other players are toiling away trying with all their heart just to get a playoff berth or keep their job.
the problem there is bro that they dont make the roster.
bron might have failed but i dnt think u can truly say he didnt put all he had in it when he was out there on the floor for the cavs. he just didnt have enough complimentary talent around him.
"Don't tell me about the pain, just bring me the baby" Cam Newton
by braves&panthers4ever on Dec 29, 2011 2:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
And he got out of town as soon as he could
He’s still relatively young and he’s in his prime. Try to bring a championship to your hometown that hasn’t had a professional champion in decades. They were knocking on the door, it’s not like they were struggling to make the playoffs. If he started getting up there in age and still hadn’t won I could see if he wanted to go elsewhere to get a ring before his time in the NBA was up.
Like Jordan said:
“There’s no way that in hindsight now, I would have ever called up Larry [Bird], called up Magic [Johnson], and said “hey, let’s get together and play on one team.” But things are different – I can’t say that’s a bad thing. That’s an opportunity these kids have today. In all honesty, I was trying to beat those guys. "
Competitive people want to beat the best, not join them.
by Aleins4u on Dec 29, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There was no reason for Bird or Magic to join a superteam...
especially when you consider the fact that both were playing on teams loaded with future hall of famers (most whom are considered among the 50 best players to ever play basketball)
Have you ever thought that some of those supporting players were hall of famers because of the star they played with?
I’m not saying that in any mean way or anything, just trying to point out that the best athletes and best leaders have a way of making their compadres better. Would Rodman or Pippen have been as great a players had they not had Jordan being the focus of the opposition? Would they be as great a player had they not had a shining example of excellence on their practice court every day, or had to run drills against them? Also see Jordan Gross vs. Julius Peppers, Gamble and Smith, and countless other examples for that phenomenon.
LeBron, to me, is a player who was capable yet never took the bull by the horns, which is partially a product of the coddled generation both he and I grew up in. As a result, I don’t consider him a GOAT, just a player playing to his pay grade and not one cent beyond it. Cam has more potential than that.
No
The Hall of Famers Magic and Bird Played with were with the team prior to them being drafted and were already established stars.
Get off your High Horse
They were Free Agents and they are free to go where they wanted. They didn’t demand trades in order to get out of there contracts (unlike CP3, Howard, Melo, or even Kobe had done in the past) They fulfilled what they were paid to do and left.
by Yankees199 on Dec 29, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good Stuff
Does Cam have a humongous new deal with Nike about to have the cork popped or what?
These are Cams peers, I don’t think it was disrespect it was more a tip of the hat.
It is going to be a wild off season with more hype going into next season then the Panthers may have ever had. Hope Cam keeps his head on straight and has fun.
So what are they doing exactly? Trying to compensate for something?
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D
I'm pretty sure both
James and Wade have been very vocal ever since Cam was drafted in not only their support but admiration of him. When I read about it on twitter I instantly thought they were not making fun of him but like he said paying him Homage……
Think about that for a second guys. WADE AND JAMES WERE PAYING CAM NEWTON HOMAGE!!!!
Catches Bullets With His Teeth?
by KissMyConverse on Dec 28, 2011 11:18 PM EST reply actions
Cam was destined to be a Panther. Here is Gettis foreshadowing the Cam Newton pick last year:
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
by Efury on Dec 28, 2011 11:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
yeah Cam was doing Superman all last year at Auburn…Gettis saw the future…and it was bright
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by MMA_PITBULL on Dec 28, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I really didn't think it was disrespect.
He even looked backed and laughed. Newton said he laughed. Clearly he has respect for Newton. No problems here, I’m just confused why Kemba was on the bench the whole 4th quarter
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Dec 28, 2011 11:21 PM EST reply actions
That was annoying too
Don’t know what Silas was thinking playing Maggette the whole 4th. He’s one of the worst guards on the planet.
Life is what you make it brothers....
exactly wha makes him one of the worstguards on the planet?.... lol
"Don't tell me about the pain, just bring me the baby" Cam Newton
by braves&panthers4ever on Dec 29, 2011 12:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
If he took out Maggs then who was going to guard LeBrick? Derrick Brown? Lmao
Panther Pride 'till I die.
Damn
Imagine being Cam haveing two of the biggest stars in sports copying you while you are sitting next to the greatest sports icon ever…..I would’nt know how to act in that situation
"Courage is being scared to death but saddlein up anyway"
John Wayne
lucky for you..that will never happen lol
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by MMA_PITBULL on Dec 28, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Wade and Lebron are both dicks.....
Why don’t they pay homage to the real stars of their games by grabbing a whistle and blowing it while the other one cries?? Let the refs know how much they mean to you seeing as they’re the reason you look so good.
I'll just repost what I wrote in the Bobcats game thread:
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. If he wasn’t tearing up the NFL record books in his rookie season, he wouldn’t have two of the best players in the NBA (Wade & LBJ) trying to make eye contact with him so they could show him their version of HIS gesture. Trust me; they’re fans.
…they’re charter member[s] of the Cam Newton fanclub. I don’t mind it one bit.
Newton for '11 ROY! (Update: Etch it in stone)
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for DPOY!
by Newsinz on Dec 29, 2011 1:47 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
+1
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- Ricky Bobby's Dad
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by KaiserBromley on Dec 29, 2011 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
This
"You know the new iPhone? It’s faster, more powerful and smarter. It’s revolutionary. Why can’t the quarterback be like that? Why can’t you be a big, tall, fast, quick, strong, smart, mobile quarterback who’s unstoppable?"
-Cam Newton
by carolinapillpusher on Dec 29, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
i love it
lebron’s been vocally supportive of cam since day one, so there’s no harm in superstar athletes showing respect. cam’s done it for deon sanders in atl, and smitty does deon’s move all the time.
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His Superman pose is everywhere
It’s really kinda cool to see this kind of national recognition across all sports for our QB.
what's to hate?
It wasn’t done in bad spirit or anything. During the game you could see LeBron and Wade looking over joking with Cam. Wade even turned around on his way to bench after the celebration with a smile and laugh.
Cam did the LeBron Chalk toss up for his TD celebration
Whats the damn big deal. It’s all fun and they respect each other as they talked to each other on Twiiter so I’m sure they talk in private. Cam did the LeBron James toss up in one of his 1st games so the people being hypocrites talking about its stupid taking someone else’s move. Cause guess what? Cam took the superman move from superman. I love cam newton.great player and he spent the most years of college at UF. My college.
Cam doesn’t have twitter…
by James Dator on Dec 29, 2011 7:04 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I mean LeBron mentioned him in a tweet praising him
LeBron mentioned Cam Newton in a tweet praising him about playing football
who actually gives a crap?
I hate netball, its crap, boring, dull, tedious and just about every other word for bad I can think off. Cam is a mega star already, these two douche bags are just jealous
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Dec 29, 2011 4:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Basketball dull, but a one-nill European football (aka soccer) is the greatest sport ever?
To each his own I guess, its differences that make the world great. The jealous douche bag thing does come across as a little angry though.
"You know the new iPhone? It’s faster, more powerful and smarter. It’s revolutionary. Why can’t the quarterback be like that? Why can’t you be a big, tall, fast, quick, strong, smart, mobile quarterback who’s unstoppable?"
-Cam Newton
by carolinapillpusher on Dec 29, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
i guess i just think of basketball as a girls sport
Not angry, just think they should concentrate on their own sport and stop trying to bask in cam’s glory
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Dec 29, 2011 10:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i dont get the girl sport point of view.
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Me either, but different strokes for different folks
Reading it was very funny to me considering I find both soccer and basketball to be loaded with diving sissies, so it looks like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
you see, basketball isnt really popular over here at all
The closest thing to it is a sport called netball, which only girls play. That’s where I’m coming from. To be fair I don’t really know anything about basketball but every time I’ve tried to watch it, I hate it. But as for sissies playing football I agree… Far too many diva’s in football at the moment.
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by LimeyPanther on Dec 29, 2011 6:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's a British joke.
Basketball is akin to Netball. Baseball to Rounders. American Football to Rugby….but in pads.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
As I was watching this happen last night, the first thing I thought of was how Panther fans would react to the superman gesture and I guess James read my mind lol. At first, I thought it was a d@#k move. I already can’t stand Queen James and his two other stooges, so this really irritated me, especially when Wade did not have a good game and that layup he made was lucky. But, after cooling off and letting that loss sink in, and seeing how most of Panther nation thinks it was flattering, I’m ok with it.
"You ain't supposed to be smiling and giggling after we lose. I've never had the mentality of losing in my whole life and for a person to tell me you can't win them all, that's a loser's mentality." - Cam Newton
I'll admit that after getting over the loss I don't think its
disrespect. I just don’t like that Cam and these clowns will even be mentioned in the same stories around the sports media today.
I would be fired up today if Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo, Dirk Nowitzki, Blake Griffin or any other number of NBA athletes with a little bit of class would have paid homage to him.
Wade, James and Bosh are what’s wrong with sports today. The me first, diva attitude is eating away at most of the major sports.
As much as I loathe the Saints and the Steelers they’re two teams that, at least on the surface, come across as grateful for their fanbase. I’m surpressing my gag reflex at the moment saying anything positive about these franchises.
Newton is a once in a generation athlete who is doing great things for Charlotte sports. It’s because of these two points that he gets a pass from me for being a little bit too cocky at times. I mean, how can you blame him? That being said, Lebron and Wade to some extent are right there with him in terms of basketball skills. However the arrogence of the Miami big 3 is half the reason they are booed in every arena they play in outside of Miami.
If you’re a fan of the Heat then feel free to fire off the “hater” tag, I don’t care. I don’t hate or wish any harm on Bosh, Wade or James. What I hate is what they’re doing to pro sports. And the thought of a young Cam Newton with a slight ego and maturity problem being in contact with and viewing these guys as peers it worries me.
What I see is a talented young man in Cam that is still very impressionable and relatively new to the status he is at and working towards. Other than their talent level, which Newton is at, I hope he never compares in anyway to the Big 3.
That’s my NSpicer two cents.
You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson
by Swamp Panther on Dec 29, 2011 8:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bobby should have quit when he was...way behind. I think he was banned.
I gotta apologize to whichever mod had to clean up all the troll droppings on this thread because of me. I shouldn’t have fed it.
You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson
by Swamp Panther on Dec 29, 2011 9:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea... Me too......
I was kinda egging him on…… Sorry Rev… (or whoever fixed it)…
by panthers4life on Dec 29, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
You do realize that one of the athletes that Cam admires the most...
Is Muhammad Ali, right? Probably the ultimate narcissist and me-first diva. And many in this forum who are old enough to live through the 1960’s and 70’s who likely are NOT fans of Lebron and D-Wade probably LOVED Ali back in his day (not me, by the way… couldn’t stand him). Its all of a piece… in my opinion, if Ali didn’t start the me-first, diva attitude in athletes, he darned sure popularized it. And its never been the same since.
And the clock ain’t gonna be turned back either. So get used to it and/or come to terms with it. Because its here to stay.
I have.
(P.S. Cam will be fine. He was raised right.)
Who doesn't think highly of Ali?
I don’t think Cam was refering to his ability to run his mouth, rather his ability to ascend to the GOAT in boxing.
And I’m not going to get used to or comes to terms with it. Arrogance is not something I am okay with. The level of arrogance that the Big 3 are at compared to what Cam Newton unleashes at times is a different level. As I said in my post “how can you blame him”, he’s an amazing athlete. At the same time he makes sure to give TD balls to kids, he doesn’t go on Twitter and embarass his team, and he mentions team greatness rather than just personal greatness.
Cam does everything right at this point and I’d like it stay that way. Is that wrong?
You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson
by Swamp Panther on Dec 29, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Brandon Jennings did it 2 days ago as well
Looks like Cam’s got season tickets to the Bobcats (unfortunately for him). Gonna be interesting to see if someone on the opposing team does that to him every game, lol. I personally don’t mind it. I think it’s funny that stars bigger than Cam are imitating him.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Dec 29, 2011 7:28 AM EST reply actions
Dwight Howard and Shaq used to do similar celebrations anyways...
I’m more surprised how competitive this bobcats team is lol; looking at the roster, who could’ve guessed we would even be anywhere near close in a game against a team like the heat!
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
so long as cam doesnt mimic lebron by choking in the fourth quarter, i couldnt care less
by hey. on Dec 29, 2011 8:26 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
You gotta love it
You know you have made it big time when opposing team players from a different sport start talking smack and mimicing you
This is one of the strangest things I have ever seen but it’s funny and probably done in fun
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 29, 2011 8:41 AM EST reply actions
For a moment, I thought I was on Rufus on Fire
when I saw this pic and caption on the front page. Hopefully I wasn’t the only one.
"You know the new iPhone? It’s faster, more powerful and smarter. It’s revolutionary. Why can’t the quarterback be like that? Why can’t you be a big, tall, fast, quick, strong, smart, mobile quarterback who’s unstoppable?"
-Cam Newton
by carolinapillpusher on Dec 29, 2011 9:25 AM EST reply actions
Offtopic, but is anyone having problems with the site getting "stuck" lately?
Only half the articles load and none of the side panes load. I bet its those damned dirty vicks ads or something.
I am, I thought it was just me. Thanks for speaking up.
"You know the new iPhone? It’s faster, more powerful and smarter. It’s revolutionary. Why can’t the quarterback be like that? Why can’t you be a big, tall, fast, quick, strong, smart, mobile quarterback who’s unstoppable?"
-Cam Newton
by carolinapillpusher on Dec 29, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Me, too.
Iranian Air Defense Site: 'Unknown aircraft you are in Iranian airspace. Identify yourself.'
Aircraft: 'This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi airspace.'
Air Defense Site: 'You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace we will launch interceptor aircraft!'
Aircraft: 'This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!'
Air Defense Site: (... total silence)
by Tarheel Soldier on Dec 29, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
All it means is that people are paying attention to the Panthers.
How things change in a year’s time.
I like to think of myself as a one-man wolfpack.
Its all good
Who was it that scored a touchdown and did the superman thing and then shut it and zipped it up? It was one of our opponents a few weeks back, nothing like seeing the competition having to try and up stage guys on your team its a good sign. Now he has 2/3rds of the big 3 doing it, congrats Cam on becoming an icon (and a much better one then Teb…wait no I’m not going to say his name). No matter who is doing it, the intimation is good for the Cam Newton brand which is good for the Panthers’ brand. The only person who should feel punked is Jordan as that shot cost his team the game and the celebration was directed to the man he was sitting with.
On a non-football/Cam point people need to get over James and Bosh moving. The NBA and MLB are structured to make winners in big markets and allow small market teams to be cannon fodder. The best players will always want to play in larger markets to have access to the best rosters because we the fans only car about the number of rings a player has. Think about comparing Jordan to James until LeBron wins multiple championships he will never compare to Jordan no matter how well he plays. And how many times have we said on this site “the only thing that matters is winning”? Winning is all that matters why would we fault players for moving to a team that gives them the best chance to win? James most certainly didn’t handle the transition with any kind of grace and made a fool of himself by publicly drawing out “the decision”, but he will live and learn. And I can understand the feeling of Cavs fans with him leaving, I catch myself hating on Peppers all the time but I would be mystified if fans from other teams and non-NFL fans hated him as well for leaving like they do James. The only difference between Peppers and James was the coverage that ESPN devoted to James leaving. Disclaimer here I don’t follow the NBA, haven’t since the Hornets left, so I have no feelings towards any NBA team or player.
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by bleed_in_blue on Dec 29, 2011 10:09 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Funny line from Dan Gilbert (Cavaliers owner) regarding large-market bias...
‘Why don’t we just change the names of 25 of the teams in the league to the Washington Generals?’
I like to think of myself as a one-man wolfpack.
I thought that was pretty good too.
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I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I agree with him
The NBA wants the big markets to do well cause they’ll take a bigger financial hit if the big markets are struggling than if small markets are.
I see your point bleed in blue.
I have to ask though, how does this help the NBA? How is it right for the J.A.G.s of the league? Is this right for the fans from the small market teams?
As fans of a small market NFL put yourself in the shoes of say small market Indiana Pacers. If this is the trend of the NBA how do the Bobcats, Pacers, Warriors even have a shot?
Its bad for everyone except the Big 3 and the team they decided to play at.
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by Swamp Panther on Dec 29, 2011 10:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It is, and its why the NBA and MLB have suffered such significant declines in relation to the NFL
Parity grows a brand, and the NFL has the most parity of any league in the nation.
there is more parity in the nfl but how much of that is just due to the fact that there are so many more guys per team. its by farmore tha double the active roster of an nba team, almost double the active roster of an mlb team.
and mlb teams cant put guys back in after they have been pulled. the rules of the game often dictate most of what happens on the field even in regards to just how the team composition is set up.
"Don't tell me about the pain, just bring me the baby" Cam Newton
by braves&panthers4ever on Dec 29, 2011 1:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The cap structure forces parity in the NFL as long as players and owners negotiate their pay grade with respect to their performance
You do have a point though, the reason its easy to game in basketball is because you only need three people to cooperate. Baseball can simply be bought, though.
I should also add that the NFL schedule also causes more parity
When you play 100 games a season and 7 games every playoff round, outlier performances have a way of getting diluted. Its why the cinderella story is so much more prevalent in the NFL and March Madness.
thats kinda the point in mlb, the best teams rise to the top due to statistical outliers not being able to sustain the sucess thru theseason.
hence why any team can be feared once they make the playoffs. that 5-7 game sample is much different than 162.
"Don't tell me about the pain, just bring me the baby" Cam Newton
by braves&panthers4ever on Dec 29, 2011 3:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Because there isn't a salary cap or floor, participants in the MLB system are not forced to attempt to be competitive to maintain a franchise
Any team can be feared when they make the playoffs, but the high salary teams have an extraordinarily disproportionate number of playoff appearances compared to the small-market teams. That’s what I’m talking about when I say “no parity” and “buying championships”
Wow, you put up one post for the CSR community of whether or not some guy is mocking your franchise QB, and all these idiots and morons from other places come rushing in here to “debate” something that isn’t even an issue…
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Not really a shock
Only reason I post is because I can do it from the tablet now… been reading this blog for a around a year (searched and found, stayed, no more looking). New SB Nation app throws a bunch of blogs together, and let me just say, pardon my French, but people are assholes. Didn’t realize how unusual CSR is from the normal fandom BS. People here argue and disagree, but rarely become disrespectful, but will even make amends for their discretion…
by disgruntled1 on Dec 29, 2011 11:21 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
We know how to argue in a civilized manner. This is definitely an unusual blog in that it is run very efficiently by (and thank God) actually knowledgeable people. This is a great community, and idiots like these heat fans and whatnot stick out like sore thumbs because we don’t tolerate that stupidity here.
But we always welcome people who love the Panthers and can talk about things like an adult, and not a 13 year old moron acting tough on the internet.
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Was not calling you out BTW disgruntled1, lol, just kinda adding to your point.
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It’s all good, and didn’t think you were, although, I can act like a 13 year old sometimes. lol
by disgruntled1 on Dec 29, 2011 12:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Its funny...I was at a bar with multiple TVs...watching the Texas Bowl game too
and #4 for Texas did the Cam superman about 5 minutes before D-Wade did it…it was like all of sudden Cam’s move is trendy…
I laughed at the time and thought it was more flattery than anything. How can anyone say Wade was dissing Cam? He doesn’t play basketball…and if he wants to put on pads Cam would run his skinny butt over!
Guys…if LeBron and D-Wade are doing his move (and not the Rodgers discount double check) Cam is going to be HUGE! way more than we are thinking right now
Love the discount double check reference.
by disgruntled1 on Dec 29, 2011 11:22 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
If #1 gave them the finger, I wouldn't have a problem one bit...
Not surprised Lebron followed suit behind Wade like a little Bitch. They won’t win Championships until they grow up, kill their opponent, then walk off the floor, like they expect to win.
It's for four years.
So it expires in 2015. Expect him to be resigned around 2014 or so to a big deal.
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D
Ivan's correct, the team has the option to add the 5th year, as long as they do it after the 3rd.
In which case, the 5th year salary would be the top-10 average of QB salaries in the 3rd year. Simple.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
That Bobcats game last night left a sour taste in my mouth.
The Bobcats did worse in the 2nd half admittedly, but the refs were clearly on the Heat’s side immediately from the 2nd half onward. They would let the Heat slam our players to the ground when we’re trying to shoot yet on the other side even if we dare to defend at all they were on us like hawks. And on the other end they called us for three offensive shot penalties.
I call fixed game and BS. If the Bobcats had been called a fair game, they would have beaten the Heat by 4-10 points easy.
Anyway about this story. Wade and Lebron both say it was a sign of respect. So this is a non-story in my opinion. But it sure didn’t look respectful on Thursday night.
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D
It was nice seeing a sell out crowd in Charlotte
Too bad they were mostly Heat fans
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by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 29, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
The Bobcats are growing in Charlotte.
But it’ll be a long time till we have sellout crowds of our own.
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D
The refs restored "competitive balance" in the second half
It was ridiculous. LeBron practically stiff armed Kemba on a fast break and didn’t get called then the next time up the floor Diaw got an offensive foul called for fighting through a screen. Calls seemed heavily biased towards the Heat. Even the announcers were questioning the officiating.
It's sad that most people don't see that and talk about the game instead.
That’s why I’m not a fan of the NBA. Back in the Jordan days it was different. But nowadays, you have to be an elite team to win in the NBA. Period. If you’re a small market team and play well, that’s fine! Just know that David Stern can make one call to the officials and slap you down. Infinite free throws for the other team, none for you.
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D
I want to hate the NBA
But I can’t help myself. I love the game of basketball too much to stop myself from watching it. All this talk during the lockout of making it fair for the small markets and regulations to try to prevent super teams, then immediately afterwards it’s Chris Paul to LA and Dwight Howard trying to get out of Orlando to go to a bigger market. I just hope Jordan and Cho can build the team up and break the mold and bring life to the small markets in the NBA.
I hate to be the downer, but don't count on it.
The best the Bobcats could do is build up teams that can consistently reach the playoffs and start to build up our fanbase. The problem with that is the only time the Bobcats did reach the playoffs, the team reacted by trading Gerald Wallace, the franchise’s first All-Star, for draft picks. So you know, whacha gonna do? You have a guy that can be a face, a leader, and garner prestige for a young team such as ours and you trade him away.
And that is called ‘building a team.’ I call it ‘flinging away victory.’
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D
Well I'm fine with trading Wallace and Jackson
The Bobcats were in awful position in regards to the salary cap and they’re trying to tear it down to build it back up. The team we had was stuck in purgatory and really wasn’t going to be anything more than a perennial contender for a low seed and first round elimination, and our two best players were getting up there in age. Rich Cho is trying to model us after the Thunder and I trust him to do that.
Jackson was fine! I was alright with that move.
I wasn’t alright with Wallace. We got a lot for him, but the franchise lost it’s only All-Star and it’s Face. I would have preferred that he play the rest of his career in Charlotte and give our basketball team some history/prestige in the long-term. The games aren’t nearly as interesting to watch without him.
This next draft is going to be very important.
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D
I do wish we still had Wallace, but I understand what the organization was doing
Hopefully Kemba can replace him as an All-Star and face of the franchise. This upcoming draft is pretty good, and hopefully we don’t screw it up like we have in years past.
Here is a story with the video
It was all in good fun, a nod at the kid
Dwyane Wade Does Cam Newton Celebration in Charlotte with Cam in Attendance (Video)
To be honest
I am more surprised they knew who Cam was, with all the ESPN coverage we have gotten and everything….
If this is how Carolina needs to get a little bit of recognition then so be it
I doubt we’ll see the Big Three go into Denver and start Tebowing at half court.
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by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 29, 2011 1:05 PM EST reply actions
Congratulations, this is the 1,000,000th mention of Tebow on CSR. You win a prize!
Please consult with Jaxon.
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Someone should photoshop Jimmeh's face on there...that would make it perfect.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Well, I could do it....
But I don’t want to make too much fun of The Jimmeh.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Non issue.
Just cool seeing an icon in the city of Charlotte.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 29, 2011 1:57 PM EST reply actions
I know...LeBron only comes to Charlotte what...twice a year? ;-)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Well played...
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 29, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
MJ isn't enough of an icon for you? :p
ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.
Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D
I'm thinking bigger.
Like superman…
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 29, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
James, speaking of the Bobcats...
I wish David Arnot would have handed that blog over to you. Maybe you didn’t want it. But seems like you would have made a more natural transition than the group thing they got going on now.
This is how I roll, animal print pants out control.
by southtunnel on Dec 29, 2011 2:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Honey Badger don't give a shit, why should I?
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Here's a great video of Wade's Superman, including Cam's expression...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o51PGy767g
This is how I roll, animal print pants out control.
What the ach eee double hockey sticks ... Dwight Howard as Clark Kent ???
Cam Newton was P-E-R-F-E-C-T for that commercial! Now he REALLY has a right to feel snubbed!
If Newton started throwing baby powder on the sidelines, or if double-trouble started doing the “Aaron Rodgers patented Championship Belt dance” there would be shrieks from New York to Los Angeles.
Doing it on the floor when the guy is in the stands is good-natured gamesmanship. I have not problem with that. Stealing it to make a commercial … is stealing it to make a commercial !!
Dwight Howard has been calling himself Superman before Cam ever got to Auburn let alone the NFL. Also Shaq was Superman before that. its a popular gimmick.
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"I don't see no ceiling. I don't see no breaking point." - Cam Newton
Yeah, that gesture has been seen in pro-wrestling rings for decades.
But since it’s not a “real” sport, it sort of gets disregarded.
Newton for '11 ROY! (Update: Etch it in stone)
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for DPOY!
nothing there, move on
I watched the game like many others and it is obvious they were just giving cam some recognition to me anyways
by allthatremainsstillowns on Dec 29, 2011 8:42 PM EST reply actions
off topic but speaking of Cam check this out
by Panthersfan1968 on Dec 29, 2011 8:43 PM EST reply actions
Wow, That's expensive.
I thought that the signature was pretty funny
Cam Newton, when a reporter asks him who will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday: "I'll tell you Sunday."
by Son of a Newton on Dec 29, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
I love how Cam's move has quieted Rodger's move
If it weren’t for the discount double check ad, I’d have forgotten about it completely. I gotta say that commercial effectively ruined the effect of the championship belt. Now it’s just comical whenever Rodgers does it.
Sorry if someone mentioned it,
but an ESPN commentator did the Superman for the opening of one of their segments.
by panthersnbraves on Dec 29, 2011 11:13 PM EST reply actions
I dont really think it's pathetic
to “mimic” someone from a different sport at all. They are all athletes just having some fun. Cam Newton did the Lebron chalk throw earlier this year so it’s cool to see Lebron and Wade do Newton’s superman move. No big deal IMO
by Martin LatinFire Gonzalez on Dec 30, 2011 9:55 PM EST reply actions
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