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Pro Bowl Rosters Announced: Cam Newton And Chris Gamble Among Snubs

HOUSTON - DECEMBER 18:  Wide receiver Steve Smith #89 of the Carolina Panthers catches a touchdown pass in the first quarter as he beats corerback Johnathan Joseph #24 of the Houston Texans at Reliant Stadium on December 18, 2011 in Houston, Texas.  (Photo by Bob Levey/Getty Images)

Before we get to who got left out, let's discuss who made it: CSR extends our congratulations to WR Steve Smith and C Ryan Kalil for making the NFC Pro Bowl team.

Steve Smith has had a major resurgence since Cam Newton became QB. At the time of this writing Smitty has totaled 1,308 receiving yards and 6 TDs on 73 receptions. Not only has Smith proven he's still an elite NFL receiver, but he's been a major reason Newton has succeeded at the QB position.

Cam's success can also be attributed to Ryan Kalil who has become the stalwart of the offensive line and now regarded as one of the best centers in the NFL. Whether it's snapping the ball cleanly, identifying blitzers or blocking Kalil has done everything well in 2011.

Now comes time to discuss the snubs, and we'll do that after the jump.

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As it stands Cam Newton has a very real chance of being named to the probowl roster. Both Saints' QB Drew Brees and the Packers' Aaron Rodgers were named to the team, along with the deserving Eli Manning. I can't slight any of these three selections, and odds are one of these teams will represent the NFC in the Superbowl this year. The decision for alternates will be between Newton and Lions' QB Matthew Stafford who was also left off the roster. However, early rumors indicate that Newton is indeed the alternate, so we'll see how that plays out.

The lack of Chris Gamble on the team really chaps my hide. The NFL decided to send Charles Woodson, Carlos Rodgers and Charles Tillman to represent the NFC. Woodson and Rodgers it get, both have had very good seasons, but Tillman? Give me a break. I understand cornerback play can be hard to evaluate sometimes, but when I see a CB with 93 tackles it tells me one thing: Nobody is afraid of this guy, it's the Richard Marshall effect.

Sure, Tillman has three FF and two interceptions which likely swayed the decision, but Gamble's stat is far more impressive: QB's have a 45.8 QB rating when throwing against him. According to Football Outsiders he also ranked 6th in the NFC in success rate only allowing receivers to get a catch 37% of the time, along with extremely low target, YAC and yards allowed numbers; Charles Tillman didn't even make the list.

Sure, the Pro Bowl is a pointless game of football aimed to give players a free trip to Hawaii, but it's a way to gibe players some kudos. Cam Newton may not be there just yet, but Chris Gamble was robbed and that's a travesty.

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That's because to you a foreign film is made in the USA

Subtlety is not one of our strong suits.

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by Oi2dwrld on Dec 27, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

He's clearly referring to foreign language films.

Hell I’m basically American.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Dec 27, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think so

Typically when an American refers to a “Foreign Film” it is any film not made in the U.S. especially if it doesnt hit theaters in the U.S. (most dont, we get some Asian martial arts movies and a handful of English movies, thats about it)

by pcroadrage on Dec 27, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Bingo

Outside of living in NY or LA you’re hard pressed to find any foreign films in any US town.

When one is huge then maybe, just maybe… but as a whole they’re not seen

by James Dator on Dec 27, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Gantt was referring to foreign films as hard to find for the average American, but that they wouldn't understand them. (that is, the subtlety of being a successful CB isn't all about tackles or INTs)

That’s if I’m defining his use of “grasp” correctly.

In any event, I didn’t take it as arrogant on Gantt’s part, but insightful. I don’t know how the players’ 1/3 vote went down, but the public only votes for names they’ve heard before, or those from their home teams. Gamble is as much an unknown quantity around the U.S. as most foreign films.

by bigdavis on Dec 27, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Rioting broke out in Charlotte today when Charlotte found out that their very own, Cam Newton, was snubbed by the NFL and not elected to the Pro-Bowl. Hundreds are dead.

In other news, this fresh from the wise men at the observer, Cam Newton really likes to go to Taco Bell!

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D

by Revshawn on Dec 27, 2011 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

A true disgrace it is, matter of fact Joe Haden

deserved a pro bowl slot in the afc. Win doesn’t seems to matter now that the bears having to lose 5 to 6 straight since jay c injury.

by adam carter on Dec 27, 2011 7:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Btw i'm in shock that gross didn't make base on

recognition just like last year. But is probably a back up though.

by adam carter on Dec 27, 2011 7:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Congrats to Steve Smith and Ryan Kalil.

Both of these players truly deserve their spots. It’s a shame that more players on our team didn’t get to the Pro-Bowl. A lot of them truly deserved it after the down year that we had, but got overlooked.

ACC Championship Member Brandon Thompson is the new Jacoby Ford. You better pick him Panthers or you will be doomed to relive the 2010 season over and over again in the Twilight Zone.

Clemson 2011 ACC Champions! Look forward to doing it again next year! :D

by Revshawn on Dec 27, 2011 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

There's quite a few questionable Pro Bowlers.

Jordy Nelson should have got there. So should Victor Cruz.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Dec 27, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Greg Jennings over Victor Cruz.

Obviously stats are not a factor based on this alone so it makes the Gamble snub that much worse.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Dec 27, 2011 7:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

A lot of people are saying Cruz should have taken Steve place

While that is ludicrous i do believe that Cruz is more deserving than Jennings this year

by pcroadrage on Dec 27, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

But he's a Packer

The Packers are the media darling right now so any decent player on the team has a legitimate shot at the Pro Bowl. He came into the season as a higher profile player than Jordy Nelson so he had the advantage of name recognition.

by JDeLong42 on Dec 27, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

true, i hate how it is a popularity contest

The most telling factor is the low key players. The packers weakest unit is there O-Line yet all of the fan votes for O-Line is for the Packers, Their FB is also going even though their running game is terrible

by pcroadrage on Dec 27, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's fair for Cam to be an Alternate....

Just not behind Eli Manning.

Rodgers, Brees, and Stafford being the initial three with Cam being the alternate would be fair, in my opinion.

by runningblack on Dec 27, 2011 7:37 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Stafford is a good kid and QB

Regardless who he plays for he played like a number one pick should play this year.

You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.

by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 27, 2011 8:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Congrats to Smitty and Kalil

But Cam, Gamble and Anderson (imo) got screwed over… The only reason I’m mad about Cam is Manning over Cam?? if Stafford had went I would understand but Manning??? smh

by rscott94 on Dec 27, 2011 7:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Manning does lead the league in 4th quarter

td’s, probably the reason he made it. He had a solid year though, not better than staffold though.

by adam carter on Dec 27, 2011 7:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Bad year to be in the NFC

As a QB or DE if you want to get in the Bullshi… I mean Pro Bowl.

Three DE with 18 sacks in week 16? Four QB’s pushing for or over 5000 yards?

Cmon.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Dec 27, 2011 7:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

As if we needed any more indication that it's a passing league.

The smart teams will just turn their defences into pass rushing units in the next few years. Screw stopping the run.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Dec 27, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Which will make us even more dangerous

If teams start building defenses around stopping the pass, our league-best rushing attack will run it right up their throats.

by JDeLong42 on Dec 28, 2011 3:22 AM EST up reply actions  

There's a very real chance that Newton will still make it to Hawaii as Joe Person pointed out:
Newton is NFC’s first alternate, that should have said.

It’s very much anticipated that either Rodgers or Brees will make it to the Pro Bowl so Cam’s probably going to go anyways. Plus, he’s an incredible rookie with unimaginable upside who’s being consider to the Pro Bowl already, he’ll have plenty of Pro Bowls to attend in the future. )I just hope that he won’t be able to attend at least 3(Super Bowl).

"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"

by Efury on Dec 27, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

Cam beat Stafford for the alternate?,

by rscott94 on Dec 27, 2011 7:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I am still in shock that Eli beat both of them

Depending on whether good Eli or bad Eli shows up for the next game, he may have as much time as Cam to rest up for it…

by CarvedTones on Dec 28, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Good work by Smitty and Kalil to make it to Hawaii.

I’m upset that Gamble didn’t make it to the Pro Bowl, but it wasn’t unexpected. As far as Cam goes, I have a hunch he will make it to Aloha stadium sometime during his career.

Cam Newton, when a reporter asks him who will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday: "I'll tell you Sunday."

by Son of a Newton on Dec 27, 2011 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

For the record Atlanta has they don't have any representation

Not that I feel bad for them.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Dec 27, 2011 7:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think they have quite a few good players, but they're too low key.

Grimes and Weatherspoon for example are two guys that I’d LOVE to have on our team.

Julio Jones will probably go to multiple Pro Bowls when it’s all said and done too.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Dec 27, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Cam not being voted a starter is not a snub

If you say that Cam should start you shoul follow that with who he would replace and IMO I don’t see who I would take off.

Now Gamble not starting is the true definition of a snub. You can easily say that you would take Tillman off and start Gamble.

by la_flare on Dec 27, 2011 7:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Well look on the bright side.. The only QB to make pro bowl his rookie year was Vince Young, maybe it’s good Cam isn’t in that company

by PantherTrain on Dec 27, 2011 7:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Haha

Welcome to the Cam Cave

by jdough on Dec 27, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not one of those who believes in predetermined destinies.

People said that QBs who had won the heisman in the past have generally not turned out to be good QBs and look at Cam.

"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"

by Efury on Dec 27, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

Didn’t think you would be that positive about it… that was a good one

by rscott94 on Dec 27, 2011 7:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Did I hear right?! Philip Rivers is in?!

I have lost what little respect I had for the Pro Bowl.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Dec 27, 2011 7:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Who else ya got?

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Dec 27, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably deserving

The AFC is very weak at QB this year. I remember when I went through and voted for almost every position, I could not think of a third QB behind Brady and Roethlisberger.

by JDeLong42 on Dec 28, 2011 3:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Did Tebus make it as an alternate.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Dec 27, 2011 7:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dalton

Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones

by Oi2dwrld on Dec 27, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Better the Daywalker than the Waterwalker.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Dec 27, 2011 8:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Dec 27, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

I hate the constant OLB snubs. no one cares about the 4-3 OLBs even though they are the most versital player on the field. The only OLBs that ever make it are the 3-4 pass rushers and i think it is a load of crap. Sure, they are good at getting pressure and sacks but they don’t cover or help the run game as much. They are basically a DE that is standing up. I think 3-4 OLBs should count as a completely different position. It’s like comparing a TE to a WR. They always get in because of the flashy sack numbers even though a 4-3 OLB might have 100+ tackles, hand full of sacks and a INT or 2

by pcroadrage on Dec 27, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe Person is pretty reliable.

"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"

by Efury on Dec 27, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Ta.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Dec 27, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Steve Reed

Of the AP seems to have breaking news

"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson

by hyphenate on Dec 27, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The world is your oyster there...

You can chose any model of regurgitated quotes you like, but your best bet is Steve Reed because he actually has insights every once in a while as opposed to Person.

by James Dator on Dec 27, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll give them both a go, thanks.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Dec 27, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Steve Reed is still covering the Panthers?

"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"

by Efury on Dec 27, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

First and foremost

Congrats to Smitty and Kalil. Both are deserving and I know they will represent us well. Ok, now that I have squared away the pleasantries…..WTF?!

Its my understanding that Gamble was second in terms of receiver targets to one man, Darryl Revis. But he cant even get an alternate slot? Gamble is this year’s biggest snub by far. Moving on, how in the hell is Tebow an alternate with the AFC? ESPN mentions this and the only mention of Cam is he did not get into the game. Tebow as an alternate is funny because the Pro Bowl is a pass happy affair, something he cannot do effectively. Cam can do it all. Oh yeah, who was it that was breaking records left and right? Mr. Ace Boogie himself. I know Cam wont be angry about being snubbed, so I will be angry for him.

You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.

by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 27, 2011 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

It is being reported that Cam is an NFC alternate

Joe Person of CO and Steve Reed of AP are both reporting this; not sure if it’s 1st or 2nd.

"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson

by hyphenate on Dec 27, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw that on the initial post

It just sickens me that ESPN wants to talk about Tebow as an alternate. Cam is miles ahead of him in terms if talent and all things considered credit should have been given where its due.

You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.

by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 27, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Tebow is the 2nd alternate in the AFC, Dalton is the first

Cam is in the wrong division to be named, simple as that… the AFC sucks now overall.

by James Dator on Dec 27, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Still...

Cam is the better QB of the two and unlike his counterpart doesn’t need to rely on divine intervention to get a win. Plus, his Superman celebration is far more cooler than Tebowing.

You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.

by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 27, 2011 8:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

NFLN reporting Cam and Dalton

Are the NFC and AFC 1st alternates

"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson

by hyphenate on Dec 27, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Has Dalton really had a Pro Bowl caliber year?

Or has all this ROTY talk just put him in the spotlight enough to get votes?

by JDeLong42 on Dec 28, 2011 3:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I know it's not an open thread, but it's appropriate... fuck this shit
Steve Reed
Chris Gamble, James Anderson were not Pro Bowl alternates.

Not even an alternate? Really?

Also, DeAngelo Williams is a 4th alternate at RB, Stewart isn’t an alternate… I found that interesting.

by James Dator on Dec 27, 2011 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

D-Will has more yards and more YPC

most importantly, he has more than twice as many TDs (his 7 to J-Stews 3)

by pcroadrage on Dec 27, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Stewart has triple his receiving yards.

I’m not complaining I’m just saying it’s a strange selection.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Dec 27, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, i wouldnt pick any of our RB for the probowl

I think both are good enough, they just dont have the production due to the 3 way split. Both are more efficient rushing than nearly all other RBs and both would make the probowl if they were a feature back. D-Will, J-Stew, and Cam all average over 5 yards per carry!

by pcroadrage on Dec 27, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Gamble not even getting considered is ridiculous

Shows that having class and humility can get get you the short end of the stick. We always hear about “Revis Island” because he has a loudmouth coach that hypes him up every chance he gets. Gamble has been on his level this year and its a shame he hasn’t even been looked at by the league.

by JDeLong42 on Dec 27, 2011 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

When did Jacory Harris transfer to Louisiana?

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Dec 27, 2011 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

It's not right!

I guess this is the respect you deserve coming off a 2 win season. Wait until next year. I bet the Panthers are the trendy pick to be the big mover next year. I just hope they don’t do like in the past. When they are picked to do good things, they fall on their face. Let’s hope this staff keeps that from happening.

"Success in anything we do in life is like building a house. Your talents are the bricks. You heart is the foundation. If you don’t have the foundation, all the talent in the world will crumble and fall".

Me

by NCBAMAFA on Dec 27, 2011 8:34 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Ha..ha..ha... It's the Pro Bowl

No serious players takes Pro Bowl seriously unless their contract has a clause that referenced it.

It’s a show….

NFL is still an entertainment business and with anything entertainment, You still need DRAMA… Probowl is one way this can be accomplished

The formula is simple: Snub people that should be there mix it with people that shouldn’t be there and You get people talking about it – Mission accomplished – You have your conversation….

Do you think the probowl selection really shows how valuable a players is? Ofcourse NOT….

If you have any doubt about this You can give Brandon Meriweather a call to validate this…..

He was selected to pro bowl then later benched by his coach then later got released the next year…

Again….It’s a SHOW…..

If they want HUGE TV ratings….?

Cam Newton and Tim Tebow will have to be in It….. It’s that simple….

.

by FB Expert on Dec 27, 2011 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

This is right off the NFL.com site...
Naturally, a sign of a great career — in most cases a Hall of Fame career — is the number of Pro Bowls a player is selected to play in. Ray Lewis has been selected to his 12th Pro Bowl this year, which places him among the all-time top 10 in selections to the NFL’s all-star game. Find out the company Lewis has joined in this collection of photos.

Seems like the folks with the mental issues are the focktards that vote for the HOF inductees based on Pro bowl appearances.( This is not meant to insult Ray Lewis and his accomplishment.)

Welcome to the Cam Cave

by jdough on Dec 27, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a cool place. But the selections are a little snubby.

Cam Newton, when a reporter asks him who will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday: "I'll tell you Sunday."

by Son of a Newton on Dec 28, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Considering the NFC competition at QB I'm okay with the alternate Cam got BUT

if AJ Green or Andy Dalton get OROY I will lose all respect for any of these accolades.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Dec 27, 2011 8:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

no way!!!

Cam has ROY locked up! After Sunday when he finishes the season with over 4000 passing and over 700 rushing, its even more of a slam dunk! No QB has EVER done that!

"Success in anything we do in life is like building a house. Your talents are the bricks. You heart is the foundation. If you don’t have the foundation, all the talent in the world will crumble and fall".

Me

by NCBAMAFA on Dec 27, 2011 8:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Solomon Wilcots as recently as today

was making a case for Andy Dalton on NFL Network. Common sense dictates that Cam has it locked up but common sense has Chris Gamble as at least an alternate to the Pro Bowl.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Dec 27, 2011 8:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

HaHa!!

he as well as all of the “experts” that said Cam would not make a good QB. Next year will be huge! We know he will work hard to get better. So will all of the teams work hard to find a way to stop him. Year 2 will tell a lot.

"Success in anything we do in life is like building a house. Your talents are the bricks. You heart is the foundation. If you don’t have the foundation, all the talent in the world will crumble and fall".

Me

by NCBAMAFA on Dec 27, 2011 9:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

You could remove his name and insert nearly anyone

from ESPN, Fox Sports, NFL Network.

I doubt they’re allowed to inject their actual opinions on much. It seems like they’re given a point to make, whether they buy in or not, some skewed stats to back it up and then allowed to present it.

I’m finding it harder to go the major networks for information. Curse of being a fan of a small market team I guess.

Thank the Football Gods for CSR.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Dec 27, 2011 9:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

There you go......

Boommmm….. You know how it work….. It’s a SHOW business….

by FB Expert on Dec 27, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

So it's not Show Friends?

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Dec 27, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

true!

I have to say. I have liked what Dalton has done. I thought he would surprise people this year. Both of them have done better than expected by a lot. Cam’s “it factor” is going to also add to his popularity as the years go by. That dreaded “upside” is higher with Newton.

"Success in anything we do in life is like building a house. Your talents are the bricks. You heart is the foundation. If you don’t have the foundation, all the talent in the world will crumble and fall".

Me

by NCBAMAFA on Dec 27, 2011 8:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

At least it gives Cam something more to work for

Gamble though, was completely snubbed and I feel sorry for him. Gamble needs to do something to get him on the headlines so people know about him.

CAM....CAAAAAAAAM

by CamNewtonSBMVP on Dec 27, 2011 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think he should do anything different

he deserves more attention, but doesn’t seek it. He just shows up and does his job. I love having a few Shockeys and Smittys on the team, but I like that Gamble is low-key.

by jcbouche on Dec 27, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Clearly I'd favor Cam over Stafford, but I totally get Stafford being right there

He’s been great, and definitely gives Lion fans hope for a bright future… provided he stays healthy.

This is how I roll, animal print pants out control.

by southtunnel on Dec 27, 2011 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

They really need to start figuring in rushing when judging QB's

For example, Cam constantly get’s portrayed as only having half the TD’s as Breez and Rogers. But the fact is he’s 5th in the league in total TD’s. Even QB rating doesn’t factor in half of what Cam does. The truth is he WOULD have more passing TD’s if he didn’t run. But that shouldn’t fault him… His athleticism enables him to do things that Breez, Rogers and Brady can only dream of.

This is how I roll, animal print pants out control.

by southtunnel on Dec 27, 2011 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

Totally agree

It seems like ESPN News and ESPN_FT especially don’t portray Cam’s QB stats fully—they are careful not to focus on his breaking of Peyton Manning’s passing record—they mention it briefly, in passing. And when they show QB numbers, they have only include rushing TDs when the QBs he’s being compared to have rushing TDs. NFL32 and Audibles give Cam alot more air time (along with NFLN sometimes).

Today Deadspin and the NYT had articles raving about Newton, so other media outlets are taking note of his skills. The sports media needs new metrics for QBs—the old ones aren’t cutting it anymore.

"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl." - Bill Peterson

by hyphenate on Dec 27, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

They DO have a new metric

haven't you heard of ESPN's Total QBR?

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Dec 27, 2011 9:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

they are careful not to focus on his breaking of Peyton Manning’s passing record—they mention it briefly, in passing

Yet when Brees broke Marino’s record they had to stop in the middle of the game and celebrate for 10 minutes

by pcroadrage on Dec 27, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Delay of Game call? No? Whatever.

You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'. -Homer Simpson

by Swamp Panther on Dec 27, 2011 9:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

and there have been numerous mentions of how Brees will "shatter" it

The writers are amazed that he might not just barely pass it, but could do it by 10%! But now that there is one game left, that doesn’t look so likely. But it does for Cam and I haven’t heard/read any mention of it being amazing that he will break it by that much. It is even more amazing as he isn’t a pure passer but also runs and has the reception.

by CarvedTones on Dec 28, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

They need to incorporate the rushing TD into the QB rating somehow

If you count passing and rushing td’s as equal then Cam would have a 94.5 rating
that is freaking crazy, another rookie stat he’d shatter

by Atlantapanther on Dec 28, 2011 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

Fans -___-

Fan voting in sports needs to count towards a lesser percentage all “all star” games in most sports except hockey are becoming a joke

by spizikey0 on Dec 28, 2011 12:52 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Like Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming, and Chris Webber making NBA All-Star teams

While not playing at all in that particular season. Most fans have no idea how to judge talent and just vote for the names they recognize. But I doubt the leagues will ever change it. Fans will vote for who the want to see, whether they are deserving or not. The NFL, NBA, etc. want to milk these All-Star festivities for as much profit as possible so they’re going to give the fans what they want. It’s all about money.

by JDeLong42 on Dec 28, 2011 3:37 AM EST up reply actions  

While the homer in me screams foul the qb race was close and Cam will make it in the end anyway

What truly irritates ne is no gamble…. I at least expected the coaches and players to give him his due

by Josh Isitt on Dec 28, 2011 2:58 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Pro Bowl snubs

Aaron Rogers and Drew Brees, both quaterbacks are having potential MVP seasons and have been selected to the Pro Bowl. How do you figure that Cam Newton has been snubbed? He had a great season for a rookie and his days will come.

by NotFondOfLibs on Dec 28, 2011 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

You must not have read right.

It was the feeling that Cam should have gone over Eli, not Brees and Rodgers.

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by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 28, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently NotFondOfReading Either

Leave your politics on the Yahoo message boards.

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by Oi2dwrld on Dec 28, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

He took it well, with class and humility.

Newton took the results in stride.

“I’m honored. Who am I to be mad at being first alternate?” he said. “The competitor in me wants to be better than that, but look who’s on the roster. You’ve got Drew Brees, you’ve got Aaron Rodgers, you’ve got Eli Manning. Those guys are at the peak of their game, and they’re still soaring.”

by bigdavis on Dec 28, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Cam Newton for Offensive ROY

Well, since Newton got snubbed, at least he should win the Offensive Rookie of the Year. Join me in the campaign!!!

http://theklowntimes.net/2011/12/28/cam-newton-should-be-the-rookie-of-the-year/

by sburks1906 on Dec 28, 2011 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

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