Carolina Panthers Vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Offensive Preview
There aren't many teams in the NFL who have a worse defense than the Carolina Panthers, but thankfully this week we're facing one in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. At the beginning of the season this looked like an incredibly tough defense on paper. With an up and coming DT like Gerald McCoy paired with Adrian Clayborn and Da'Quan Bowers it seemed like they would be nasty group sooner rather than later. However a combination of injuries and unreliability has made the Bucs the NFL's 31st ranked defense. Currently the Bucs are:
- 31st in yards allowed (394.6)
- 29th in points allowed (26.5)
- 28th in pass yards allowed (291)
- 30th in rushing yards allowed (139.7)
This seems like the kind of game the Panthers can take advantage of on the offensive end, so let's break it down.
X-Factor: Cam Newton
Since the bye-week Cam hasn't been Cam... not the same Cam we saw at the beginning of the season anyway. His accuracy on long and intermediate routes has been mediocre at best, and he seems to be making worse decisions in the passing game while trying to do too much with his arm. Personally I think Newton is dealing with some arm fatigue now. At this point he's attempted over 100 passes more than he did last season at Auburn, and is it really a coincidence that the passing game had more and more deep routes taken away in the weeks since Newton had his MRI in the bye-week?
Regardless of whether Cam is hurting a little he's not hurting as much as the Bucs pass defense which is allowing almost 300 yards per game. Couple this with this prospect of Jonathan Stewart catching screens in the open field and stiff arms will happen. I think Cam can control the game this week.
Edge: Panthers
Carolina run offense vs. Tampa Bay run defense
Last week the Bucs allowed 70 yards to Chris Johnson in the 4th quarter... yes, one quarter. With DeAngelo Williams emerging in the backfield in 2011 and Jonathan Stewart looking as dynamic as always in the end I think there's only one real result here.
Edge: Panthers
Carolina pass offense vs. Tampa Bay pass defense
Steve Smith vs. Aqib Talib? I like it.... Brandon LaFell in the starting lineup? I like it.
This could be a very good week for the Panthers passing attack as they face a group unable to stop opposing teams. Their inexperienced linebackers can, and will get eaten up by Shockey and Olsen on Sunday, and Steve Smith in 2011 is too much for their secondary to handle. It will all be about Cam's ability at getting the WRs the ball, and I'm not too worried about that.
Edge: Panthers
Truth be told I hate previews that are one-sided because it looks so 'homer-centric' but when it comes to the Panthers offense against the Bucs defense there's only one way it really can go. Tomorrow I will look at the Panthers' defense, and rest assured it wont be quite so lop-sided with us on D.
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The x-factor to me is Chud, will we see a balance
offense for the 2nd straight week in a row? Or we will see a pass happy offense behind an OLine who has been bad since the bye week?
by adam carter on Dec 2, 2011 8:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions
You are Correct
Panthers OC is the X- factor, Let’s see if he sticks to his deep passing affirnity behind an OLine that is weak at best.
The writer above thinks Newton results has been different after the bye… Yes…This has nothing to do with Newton capabilities…I’ve watched and dissected the tapes.
What is going on is this. Defense have figured the easiest way to stop the panthers explosiveness is to strike them at their weakest link which is the OLine plus account for Steve Smith at every play….
You can’t expect to throw deep with accuracy and success with Weak OLine….Either you throw in lots of runs to diffuse the pressure or do some play action pass or triple options to keep the defense guessing…
Panthers scheme to be honest is easy to Defend…..You don ’t have much weapons actually. The TE are ok not too scary… Steve can be neutralized with a little difficulty, no other consistent WR that can scare opposing defense…..
In a nutshell… the X factor again is Chud…whether he showcases the same predictable schemes or he gets more creative and patience with the Run game.
We’ll see on Sunday….
Haven't we had 1 of the TE out the last 3 or 4 games?
. The TE are ok not too scary…
When they were both in the game, I think they were scary.
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Shockey+Olsen
Scary
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by Disciple of Carolina on Dec 2, 2011 1:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you're right about the pass blocking
but the “easy to defend” offense that “don’t have much weapons” is averaging close to 400 yards per game (5th in the league) and more points per game than the Eagles, Steelers, and Chargers, all offenses with plenty of weapons. Obviously their not loaded like Green Bay or New Orleans but still one of the better offenses in the league. Now if you want to talk crap about the defense….I will probably agree with you all day
Let me break this down further.....
In many years studying strategies, I’ve been very impressed with what Panthers have been able to do from the offensive side of the field (Leading NFL in explosiveness) with their current personnell…. but… i will attribute this to couple of two Key things.
(1) Underestimation of Cam Newton abilities in being poise in the pocket and hitting deep routes with stunning accuracy, things not expected from a rookie
(2) Un-familiarity of your OC schemes and tendencies… Stubborn… DEEP Passing affirnity
Now that we seen this on tape… Neutralizing your offense is not that difficult actually…ALL you have to do is to just attack the WEAK Panthers OLine with everyone else in coverage and your deep passing bomb will NOT happen…
Now if your team add more creative runs, triple option then it’s a total new problems but for now the assumption is your OC is steadfast and will ALWAYS roll with Deep passing affirnity….
So that explosiveness stats will go down…Upcoming opponents will not be next victims as earlier opponents were….
Hopefully this helps…
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
In case you missed it when you were breaking down the tapes...
We have run the triple option with Cam, Stewart and Williams on the field at the same time.
Juz saying.
Twaa...
by ERL on Dec 2, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
...Deep passing affirnity...
what does that even mean…lol… there it is again, that word- you keep using that word…I don’ think it means what you think it means…
hah yea I thought that was a typo the first time...affirnity definitely isn't a word
@FB Expert-
I can guarantee that opposing coaches have broken down far more tape than you or I put together, if it was that easy to neutralize the Panthers offense then they wouldn’t be putting up 400 yds a game. You’re right about the weaknesses that you point out, but you’re wrong in thinking that it’s something that can easily be countered by simply attacking the O-line. I think you are over-simplifying things quite a bit
The OL is the weakest link?
I find it curious where people get these ideas… currently the Panthers are 8th in the NFL in run blocking with a 68% power run success rate, and are 3rd in the NFL with only 16% stuffed run attempts.
In pass protection they are ranked 17th with an adjusted sack/pressure rate of 6.9%, which is better than the Green Bay Packers (7.4%), Pittsburgh Steelers (7.6%) or San Francisco 49ers (8.6%).
Roethlisberger is 5th in the NFL with average yards per attempt, Aaron Rogers is 1st in average yards per attempt and Newton is 8th. So two QBs are throwing deeper more often than Cam Newton behind weaker offensive lines. That dispels your assertion that ‘You can expect to throw deep with accuracy and success with [a] weak OLine’.
The TE are ok not too scary
The TEs rank 13th and 25th in the NFL respectively in yards, 11th and 34th in touchdowns and 15th and 8th in average yards per reception among TEs with more than 20 receptions. When you have two TEs splitting those then they become the definition of ‘scary’.
no other consistent WR that can scare opposing defense
Not true, Brandon LaFell can, and does scare opposing defenses. Up until this week he hasn’t been used because of Legedu Naanee’s schematic knowledge.
Consistency: LaFell has only 1 drop in 26 receptions…. check
Scariness: He averages 15 yards per reception in those 26 receptions, which puts him in the top 10 among #2 and #3 receivers in the NFL… check
by James Dator on Dec 2, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Bravo, Sir.
Rec’d for the information herein.
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I think it's a low-scoring game...
Both Defenses are hearing how they’re last in the league. I bet there’s significant improvement on both sides.
If #1 isn’t playing like he did before the bye-week, its because he’s trying to win…which I have NO problem with…
I disagree on the low-scoring prediction.
Only turnovers can prevent a series of long down-field marches, in this one.
Here’s hoping we’re the team forcing them.
It wasn’t too many games ago that the Panthers led the league in 80-yd+ marches for scores. The Bucs are made to order for that type of action. We don’t need long strikes against them.
The defenses hearing how bad they've been likely won't change anything
The defenses have been hearing how bad they are for a while now, and they haven’t gotten better yet. Why start now?
J-Stew needs a trim
Time to Ronde back to the Barber Chop.
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i can see j-stew having a monster game
Both rushing and catching. Let’s hope for another cam 300+. God I hope we beat the bucs, that would be awesome
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by LimeyPanther on Dec 2, 2011 8:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Speaking of that place
It looked downright depressing last night for the WVU vs. USF game. It couldn’t have even been 20% full.
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Good Stuff
Note been watching the games of late, sort of sleeping for work, but every week it feels like they are teaseing us with what might come next year while makeing a lossing seem not so bad.
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Those Stewie stiff arm .gifs never get old
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And his flipping of linebackers while picking up the blitz?
,,,he starting to become my Panther to watch. He’s a strong, strong man who plays mean without playing dirty. Love it.
GAME
how i see this game. neither def. can stop anybody. turnovers will happen in this game. we need to run the ball and a lot. keeps tb off. of the field. stop qb from scrambling on 3rd. down. he killed us last year. we need to throw shorter routes and to te"s.. tb is one of worst teams def. against te. throw to rb"s. i see big gains here. on def., we need to step up and hold them to no more than 125yds. if we can do this we can win. my prediction, car. 35 tb. 24. GO PANTHERS!
that short video clip takes me back to the MONDAY NIGHT GAME in 2008
It reminds me of the 6-3 record going into the first game against the bucs that year. The bucs a tad overrated with Garcia as QB. Yeah they beat us, but when the stage was set for the world to see, we didnt dissapoint. I remember at the end of the game we had the ball and they needed to stop us from getting the first down so they could save clock with time outs. D. Will with a nice stretch play to the right broke a couple tackles and took it in for the long td. We will get back to those days. Soon
95%+ sure we won that game. i was there, tailgated so i had some booze but still prettty sure it was a w!
"Don't tell me about the pain, just bring me the baby" Cam Newton
by braves&panthers4ever on Dec 2, 2011 6:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
HOW HOW HOW....
can I make that JStew stiff arm.gif my background on my computer? That would so make me the MAN at my job.
Stuuuuuuuuu
thats easy. save the image. now right click on your wallpaper. go to “properties.” find the saved file. click on it, choose either one or several ones. after a pause, you’ll have the background. This is the one i use:
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-11782640/camnewtonweek7_1.gif.html
by CarolinaPantherJLO on Dec 3, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
The real X-factor
Penalties. What will Josh Johnson do when we give him 40 yards on a PI call? What about a 30 yard screen pass to J-Stew that gets called back for holding by a WR? I don’t have a problem with the play calling. If we limit penalties, we’ll get a win.
How bad will it suck if we win our next four but come one win short of a playoff berth? If only we would have beat one of the teams we where suppose to beat like Titans or Vikings we could have got a wild card, that would suck
it'd be a great xmas at my house.
may put that on the santa list right above a pony.
by Lost_terrapin on Dec 2, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
8-8 won't get us into the playoffs unless several teams completely tank the rest of their seasons.
…but I’d still like to see a few wins. We have the offense to average 30+ points a game for the rest of the year. Unfortunately our defense is too young or banged up to keep most teams from scoring a similar amount.
It would be terrible. I mean, us picking 14th and all....unbearable pain I tell ya.
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by BW Smith on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Actually now that you mention it, that would suck lol. All the elites will be gone by pick 14 and that pick also has terrible trade value. At best we go 5-11 with a sweep of the Bucs. Maybe 6-10 if bad Jake shows up in Houston but JJ watt and that D scares me. I personally think we go 4-11 with one win on Christmas eve against the Bucs
by PantherTrain on Dec 2, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Why not getting into the playoffs wouldn't suck..
We will go 8-8 this year. BAMF will get us into the playoffs next year with a healthy defense. Then when we win some playoff games we can say BAMF never had a losing season. 8-8 would be great for BAMF because he is going to take us to the promised land within 5 years.
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Dear god.
Okay, I want you to look at first round picks from the 2000-2009 drafts and tell me how many players drafted after the 8th pick that you’d nut your pants to have on this team. Then tell me all the elites will be gone by 14. Jesus, dude.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
For fun, I did this...
From 2000-2011, the 14th pick in the draft:
2000: Bubba Franks
2001: Kenyatta Walker
2002: Jeremy Shockey
2003: Michael Haynes
2004: Tommie Harris
2005: Thomas Davis
2006: Brodrick Bunkley
2007: Darrelle Revis
2008: Chris Williams
2009: Malcom Jenkins
2010: Earl Thomas
2011: Robert Quinn
Also, note that Jonathan Stewart and Brian Orakpo were picked 13th, and Troy Polamalu was picked 16th.
One “stud superstar” that we pick 2nd isn’t going to fix this team. We need an entire draft class of good picks to fix this team, regardless of where we pick.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Of the 12 picks, 4 of them are good picks, 2 of them are okay picks, 2 of them are too soon to tell, and 4 of them are “meh” picks.
You could also do a study of all the #2 overall picks to see how many busted, but I really don’t want to put that much effort into making PT look foolish. I’ll just let him do it for me.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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I started to do what I asked him
but I realized there were too many studs to take the time listing them.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Jenkins and Thomas
Are both on the verge of being stars, but yes its absolutely ridiculous that all the “elite” talent will be gone by #14. That’s laughable.
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Would be hilarious if Caldwell did this same coach blowup over their shit record now.
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Caldwell "blowing up"...

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by BW Smith on Dec 2, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Probably. Depends on his contract and depends on who else is availalbe.
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by ERL on Dec 2, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
It'll be great.
That means next year is going to be fun.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
And the guys we have will have experience in learning how to win games.
Cause, unless I missed something, that’s our goal — to win games.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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Yeahhh, you get that memo BW?

Our goal is to draft Justin Blackmon... I mean Coples... I mean Claiborn...
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by Ivan459 on Dec 2, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oops, my bad. I didn't know our goal was to draft [insert flavor of the hour here]
There was no cover sheet on the TPS Report, so I ignored it.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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lol
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Actually it would be awesome to win the next four games.
It would be a great boost of confidence going into next season.
Twaa...
by ERL on Dec 2, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
But then we don't land a goldmine in a trade...
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Oh...right...
@@@@@Then F it. Let’s just forfeit the rest of the games, then. That would be the best thing for the franchise.@@@@@
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by ERL on Dec 2, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt.
By forfeiting the remaining games,
we remind players how much this team cares about their safety
and our
commitment to winning in the future
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The Saints only won by 3 earlier this season
The Saints game is winnable. It’s even more winnable if they rest their starters.
I think anywhere from 4-12 to 7-9 is in the realm of probability.
The ATL game will be rough. They'll be fighting for a wild card. At least its at home.
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
by ERL on Dec 2, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
do you think he knows Beason was the 25th pick?
Deangelo was the 26th pick, stewart was the 13th pick. Kalil was a secong rounder. Darelle revis was the 14th pick. Give me all day and I could find tons of elite talent after the 14th pick. Id much rather win games and worry about the draft after the season
by gaineristheman on Dec 2, 2011 11:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
or that John Randle was an UDFA?
and now he’s in the hall
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by Imisshooooooooov on Dec 2, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
this is just deflection.
it’s already been established that there are only 7 good football players in this years draft.
by Lost_terrapin on Dec 2, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I have compiled a list of top 10 overall best picks in the draft. So if we pick in the top 10 we will be guaranteed to get one of these guys.
1.Morris Claiborne
2.Zach Brown
3.Devon Still
4.Dre Kirkpatrick
5. Justin Blackmon
6. Matt Kalil
7. Alshon Jeffery
8. Quinton Coples
9.Alameda Ta’amu
10. Brandon Thompson
So if we get a top 10 pick one of those guys are guaranteed to fall to us.
by PantherTrain on Dec 2, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks John Madden.
I have compiled a list of top 10 overall best picks in the draft. So if we pick in the top 10 we will be guaranteed to get one of these guys. So if we get a top 10 pick one of those guys are guaranteed to fall to us.
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by Tater596 on Dec 2, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
LOL
Yeah, this is right up there with “if you score more points than you’re opponent, then you’ll win most of the time”.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
You should put these in the order of importance to you.
Or is this list in the order?
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Also, you left out Luck.
If he doesnt fall to us, that means 1 of the others won’t be in the top 10. Or do you think Luck won’t be in the top 10?
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With any luck we won’t be drafting Luck.
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Yeah I am pretty confident we won't be drafting him.
But he still should be on a list of top 10 players. When some team the Colts draft Luck, that puts 1 of these top 10 down the list to 11.
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We’re more lucky than that.
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by LimeyPanther on Dec 2, 2011 4:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Here's that list...
1. Blackmon
1. Coples
1. Jeffery
1. Ta’amu
1. Kalil
1. Brown
1. Still
1. Kirkpatrick
1. Claiborne
1. Thompson
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
In order currently here are my top 10 in terms of need or BPA.
1.Quinton Coples
2. Zach Brown
3. Devon Still
4. Matt Kalil
5.Alameda Ta’amu
6. Morris Claiborne
7.Justin Blackmon
8.Dre K
9. Alshon Jeffery
10. Brandon Thompson.
Thats my top 10 big board outside of QBs and RBs
You have Coples number one?
#1. we don’t “need” him
#2. he isn’t the best player available on that list, not even in the top 5
by Smitty89 on Dec 2, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
THIS
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
When you factor in 3-4 QBs that will go top 14 and maybe Richardson
we can have one of those players at 14. Yet you find them all elite talent. Yet you said we can’t get any elite talent at 14.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
But wouldnt a 8-8 record put us closer at the 20th pick or so considering how many teams with garbage records there will be?
Where did you even get 8-8 from? When did I say that?
And did you educate yourself on first round players taken outside of the top ten like I asked you? You’ll be amazed at the results.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Everything I read about Coples says “lack of production but he’s 6-6 275”. That just screams bust to me. I don’t know since I don’t watch UNC games and im sure some of you guys do but that’s not what I wanna hear from my top pick.
by JStewart28 on Dec 2, 2011 1:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Coples is a beast. Hes a DTstuck inside a DE’s body. He handles double teams extremely well and could be domimant as a DT run stuffer or a pass rushing DE. Coples even said he likes and is better at stopping the run which is what we need. Plus with Hardy having a solid year we could draft Coples and possibly get a trade for Hardy to fill more holes. coples and Claiborne might very well be the 2 defensive BPAs, coples would contribute more for us than Claiborne.
When you make a top 10 list of players you think might be available for a top 10 pick,
don’t you have to include qb & rb, if you say BPA? The BPA means just that, best player available. Either you include them, or you make the list of team needs. When you have qb’s & rb’s being drafted in the top 10, that means some of these players fall below the top 10, which in effect kills the top 10 list.
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How do you do this to EVERY POST?
Every single post lately gets completely derailed into a draft conversation. Do you enjoy watching football, or do you just enjoy the draft? When you play Madden do you go into franchise mode, skip every game, and get straight to the draft? I don’t get it. The draft is FIVE MONTHS AWAY! This was a post about the game that is TWO DAYS AWAY!
Obviously, you can post whatever you want, whenever you want, and on any subject you prefer. I’ll never complain about it again. I just wanted to put my two cents in regarding all this premature evaluation and draft talk.
by cj5 on Dec 2, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry...
The above post was aimed at PantherTrain. And please don’t take any offense, PT. I like most of your posts and we are all on (or supporting) the same team. I’m just sayin…
by cj5 on Dec 2, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
In his defense,
A lot of the articles kind of pan out anyway, so at least it keeps chat going for us to read, (or comment on).
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Dang I cna't get my sayings straight today,
I meant they fade out, or peter out. Whatever though, you all get the point.
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We should start an OT thread called PT.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll bring the kool-aid
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I'll bring the fence, err, chairs to sit on.
PT…I hope you know that we pick on you because you are one of us.
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
by ERL on Dec 2, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe...
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Oh i know lol, its all fun and games. No hard feelings at all, hey someone’s gotta be the fall guy, there always has to be a skip bayless, lol its a rough job but someone’s gotta do it. Ironic considering I dont like Skip at all. But i do mean everything I post, im not just saying it just for attention.
Well besides when I was bashng Cam in the pre season, that was dumb and spoken out of knee jerk reaction, so that I didnt mean.
You have an unflappable resiliency about you. I respect that.
I guess the thing people take issue with are the off-topic derailments.
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by ERL on Dec 2, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I haven't noticed any derailments
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I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
we were all just trying to talk about the game, when suddenly
...in rolled the Panther Train...

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by Tater596 on Dec 2, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This list smells of cabbage and
UNC favoritism. Also, ranking by need AND bpa in the same list doesn’t really seem feasible to me…
I wasnt always talking about the draft. Up until a few weeks ago I truely thought we would make the playoffs. But after the devastating lost to the 2-9 Vikings then our epic failure against the Titans that was the final straw.
Ive seen everything I need to see this season. Cam is a superstar and our franchise QB for years to come, Smitty is still very much alive, our running game is still awesome and our D is embarrasing.
So now all im looking toward is next season and the draft. Draft day is awesome, all the trade baiting going on, who will be our next franchise superstar etc. Then comes FA then finally the new season starts and we fight for the playoffs. This season is already a closed chapter in my book, im already dying to find about the sequel.
Draft weekend used to be awesome. Now it's a 4 day event.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
It was much easier to convince the wife to give me two full days of draft.
Now it’s two evenings and two full days?
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
This is what I'm like on draft week...
Mom!!! Bathroom!!!

Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
by ERL on Dec 2, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Does she hold a bedpan to your ass?
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
I really, really wanted to put that GIF on here instead of this picture, but figured it would get taken down after a couple of prudes flagged it.
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
by ERL on Dec 2, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Dec 2, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
If it makes you feel any better...
I would have cried on the inside when I had to take it down…
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I don't see this season as a closed chapter
I’m looking forward to seeing some grit and fight from our team. I want to see how they respond to BAMF’s coaching in a lost season. I look forward to getting to see some younger guys play, and give me hope for the future.
Looking forward to the draft too much is depressing. The draft means there hasn’t been football for months, and there won’t be football for several more.
This comment section has officially been Tater'd.
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You're right, Tater.
But the one positive thing compared to last season is we will get our free agency period in March—assuming Marty is allowed to participate. ;)
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
by ERL on Dec 2, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Who knows, maybe Hurney is already talking to the Browns about a potential trade for their 2 1st rounders incase we land a top 3 pick
You mean you don't think Colt McCoy is a top 5 QB?
Hippie Ki-yea, Mr. Falcon.
by ERL on Dec 2, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I see no way
that the Panthers end up with a top 3 pick. I just don’t see the Panthers losing out.
If the season ended today, the Panthers have the 6th pick.
If the Panthers win this week, they’ll be sitting at pick 9 at the lowest, going all the way to pick 14 depending on which other teams lose.
I think the talk of a top 3 pick is not really in the realm of probability.
Your math is slightly skewed.
If the Panthers win this week, they’ll be sitting at pick 9 at the lowest,
What if they win this week, then lose the rest, and all the teams below us win the rest?
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
Love that gif
I was listening to Awake & Alive by Skillet, and the chorus synchronized with the stiff arm perfectly lmao.
We are the hollow men.
We are the stuffed men.
by Thaddeus_Griffin on Dec 2, 2011 5:40 PM EST reply actions
It's not skewed math
It’s saying that there are 5 weeks left in the season, we’d have to fall 3 spots from where we currently are, and 6-10 spots if we win next week.
If we lose this week, and everyone else wins, we’re at number 4.
I’m not saying that a top 3 pick is impossible, but it’s very unlikely.
All I was saying is that it is not impossible to get a pick earlier than ninth.
I thought that was what you were saying. Maybe I misunderstood it.
STICK THE KNIFE IN AND TURN IT!!!!!
I can see how it would look like that
That’s not what I was intending to say though.
I was trying to say that it is doubtful that we’ll have a top 3 pick, likely we won’t have a top 5 pick, and possible that we won’t have a top 10 pick.
Man, I thought this thread would be about our offense and the Bucs' defense.
Guess not….
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This is a little mean but I love making fun of the Bucs any way I can
Their sbnation blog’s viewership seems to be as abysmal as their stadium attendance. They’re lucky to even get 10 comments on a post while CSR gets hundreds. I love CSR and our fan base.
Slight error in one of your numbers, James...
They didn’t add up to the total, so I checked which was wrong.
The Bucs are indeed 28th in pass D, but only 254.9 YPG – the 291 you had is the number of points they’ve surrendered. (Column malfunction.)
Is there going to be a defensive preview?
Or is our defense so dreadful that it is no longer to be mentioned?

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