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Giving Gamble his due

There are some Carolina players whose nature as a player can be summed up in one moderately-simple polysyllabic word. Steve Smith is our mercurial wide receiver, Cam Newton has become our emblematic quarterback, and Greg Hardy is our eccentric defensive end; but there's one more player who joins this group of Panther nomenclature, and that's our enigmatic cornerback Chris Gamble

In an era when the position has been typified by self promoters like Darrelle Revis and DeAngelo Hall the Panthers' DB has avoided the pitfalls of such aggrandizement. In many ways he's become Carolina's version of Tim Duncan. If you're not familiar with the former Wake Forest center, and NBA MVP he's made a career off being soft spoken, staying in his lane and being fundamentally sound without flashy. To watch Duncan's game you can stare at a screen for 48 minutes and feel like he's done nothing, only to look at the box score and realize he dominated the game. It's bizarre for a 13-time all-star to be under the radar, but that has been Duncan's way.

So too has Chris Gamble typified this behavior with his mild mannered behavior, and we'll look further into the public perception of him and his on-field play... after the jump

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A few weeks ago the folks at Pro Football Focus wrote a tweet that told the world just how good Chris Gamble has been in 2011

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Career renaissance?Chris Gamble of the Panthers is allowing just 32% of balls thrown his way to be complete

What they see as a renaissance, I see as a return to the ability he's always had. Throughout his career (with the exception of 2010) Gamble was one of the least targeted CBs in the NFL. While flashy interceptions and big hits get players nominated to the Pro Bowl it's this singular ability to disrupt a quarterbacks ability to throw the ball to their favorite target that truly separates the wheat from the chaff. The change in perspective that really made fans realize this fact was the aforementioned Revis and his 'Revis Island' shtick that gave a buzz word for ESPN to run with. Now we look at factors like 'stop rate', 'target rate' and 'QB rating against'. 

There's no island for Gamble, no preening or promotion... just a quiet guy who doesn't have a twitter account, doesn't talk to the media a lot, and despite being on the team for the better part of a decade he hasn't become a captain, it's just not his style. This is what made the schism between Gamble and John Fox in 2010 all the more bizarre.

While none of us really know what happened last year, we know that a pretty serious rift occurred between the cornerback and the coach who drafted him. Whether it was disrespect for Fox, or another reason he was deactivated for the final five games of the season, a move that surely hurt the Panthers' chances at victories down the stretch. Most players would have made their displeasure public, demanded a trade or acted out in a variety of ways, but not Gamble. He stayed quiet, biding his time and knowing he would outlast the lame duck head coach.

Now Gamble has his swagger back, and unlike other players this doesn't involve denigrating interviews about his opponents or mocking opposing WRs, instead simply doing what he's always done for the Carolina Panthers... shutting down wide receivers. While come outlets will see this as a renaissance, others see Gamble's true colors- a player doing special things in an un-glamorous way; is there anything more distinctly 'Carolina Panthers' than that? 

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Nice write-up, James. rec'd

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by GooseCreek on Nov 7, 2011 6:52 PM EST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing!

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by The Duke Dude on Nov 8, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Still didn't run a grammar check!
While come outlets will see this as a renaissance

Do we need to get James an editor? ; )

by aceofsween on Nov 8, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

i too wonder what hap'd last year

i wonder if all the losing got to his head, and he sulked. he’s so quiet, i can’t see him disrespecting coach fox. hard to say

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by revdwl34 on Nov 7, 2011 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

Here is a guess...

Maybe Gamble was pissed for the following reasons….

It took Fox forever to start Charles Johnson and James Anderson?
Fox didn’t have Gamble on Fitzgerald in the first half of the Cardinals playoff blowout?
I know I was pissed. ;)

Great writeup James!

I recall a whole lotta people on this board bashing Gamble. Gamble is a badass and his coverage numbers have always been there. He is not overrated. Cover CB’s are so very hard to find. Cover CB’s are the equivalent of defensive stoppers in the NBA like Bruce Bowen.

by jdough on Nov 7, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Great write up

Gamble is my ex wife’s favorite player, but I still love him.

Go ugly early beat the rush.

by doug2626 on Nov 7, 2011 7:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

But he doeznt get teh intersepsions!!

For all the hoopla this offseason over Aso, I’m willing to bet that over the course of their careers Gamble has a similar target rate/success rate against; outside of last year (and his rookie year, where he truly played like his name implies), he’s been a top flight CB almost non-stop.

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by Tomthehomer on Nov 7, 2011 7:07 PM EST reply actions  

I think he does.

He has been in the top ten of cover CB’s for quite some time.

by jdough on Nov 7, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

He's always been a good corner for us.

And this year he seems to be having the best season of his career and he’s showing that he’s definitely worth that big time contract. So much that I may just go out and get myself a Gamble jersey. =)

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by Panther4Life!!! on Nov 7, 2011 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

Hopefully the players and coaches realize

how good gamble has been this year to make the pro bowl. So far in the season he allowed 9 catches on 27 targets= 33% for only 90 yards. Impressive but he will miss out over the likes of Nnamdi A, D Hall, tramon w, Charles W etc.

by adam carter on Nov 7, 2011 7:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Name recognition

Peppers will get in before CJ with worse stats. Gamble won’t get in because unless you get the flashy INT’s you have to parade around and promote yourself.

by Swamp Panther on Nov 7, 2011 7:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It bugs the crap out of me that D. Hall gets in so often

He’s good, yeah. But he gets burned on a regular basis it seems. And Nnamdi has been having a really bad season in Philly, it’s really too much of a popularity contest.

"So! T'all you fine dandies so proud, so cock-sure, prancin' aboot with your heads full of eyeballs! Come and get me I say! I'll be waiting on ya with a whiff of the 'ol brimstone. I'm a grim bloody fable, with an unhappy bloody end!" - Demoman

by Thaddeus_Griffin on Nov 7, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They need to take the fans out of it. Let the coordinators and players do it.

How can players that coordinators are forced to game plan for be completely disregarded during the Pro Bowl?

by jdough on Nov 7, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Drugs? lol

"So! T'all you fine dandies so proud, so cock-sure, prancin' aboot with your heads full of eyeballs! Come and get me I say! I'll be waiting on ya with a whiff of the 'ol brimstone. I'm a grim bloody fable, with an unhappy bloody end!" - Demoman

by Thaddeus_Griffin on Nov 7, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

This is very similar to some other CB's in recent years...

Antoine Winfield, Nate Clements, and Carlos Rodgers have all been top flight cover CB’s that didn’t get the recognition until later in their careers. Rodgers has yet to be named to the Pro Bowl. I would argue he is the reason Hall gets so many INTs. The QB’s target Hall instead.

Sean Smith, Bradley Fletcher, and Brandon Flowers are some more recent cover CB Pro Bowl snubs.

by jdough on Nov 7, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Flowers is a straight beast

Clements hasn’t been the same though since he got the big money though (at least, not quite as good as he was when he earned the payday)

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by Tomthehomer on Nov 7, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yet another reason why im glad we no longer have Fox as our HC…Gamble is a hell of a corner back and has been since we drafted him. He does his job week in week out and doesn’t look for the praise after the games or at the end of the year.

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by MMA_PITBULL on Nov 7, 2011 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Ive always been a major supporter of Gamble

He just doesn’t get burned. Plays sound, solid, lockdown defense. Has for years.

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by Smitty89 on Nov 7, 2011 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

I've said for years that Gamble was criminally underrated

It’s good to see him get some of the recognition that he deserves.

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by Jake Humphrey on Nov 7, 2011 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

Great article on a much maligned and underrated player

I love the way he plays, very Panther-like like James said.

by patosan on Nov 7, 2011 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Small spelling correction

Should read… “While some outlets will see this as a renaissance”

by patosan on Nov 7, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He has really impressed me this year so far. Love the guys game and is definitely one of the few bright spots on this pretty bad defense so far.

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by Ivan459 on Nov 7, 2011 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously

Makes me wonder why he’s not in the 90’s in madden as an Ohio state fan and panther fan I was so excited when they traded up and drafted him that year he rewarded our pick with a league leading among rookies with 6 ints

by blackdog2485 on Nov 8, 2011 1:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

He isn't a 90 rated player for the same reasons James discusses in the article

He isn’t self promoting and doesn’t make flashy plays, he just quietly goes out and does his job game in and game out.

I hope this year he can make the Pro Bowl. If you have not voted, make sure you do so. This is his best season by far, and i fear that he won’t make it in because of his persona.

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by Tater596 on Nov 8, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

It's interesting to see that

Gamble has 0 tackles in our 2 wins and 15 in our losses…gah I want TD and JB back NOW :(

by Atlantapanther on Nov 8, 2011 9:26 AM EST reply actions  

An interesting tangent comes to mind from this article

How much of Gamble’s success is due to practicing against Smith, how much of Gross’ success is due to practicing against Peppers and vice versa, how much of CJ’s success is attributed to learning from Gross and Peppers?

A very important aspect of a team is a legacy of skill, good transition periods, mentorship, and paired competition on the roster. Its also important for coaches to recognize dearths in talent on specific positions and bring in outside help (see Panthers, TE position). I think we’re on the right track, and am hopeful that the immense skill shown by our WRs, CBs, and lineman on both sides of the ball end up working out in our favor, allowing us to win games on Monday-Friday rather than Sunday.

by ppalm on Nov 8, 2011 9:34 AM EST reply actions  

Good points

I’m sure there is some of that happening. Hopefully Smitty can transfer some of his skills and knowledge to all the young receivers. We haven’t heard any comments about their heads not being in it yet from the great one, and we are starting to see some of their progression on the field particularly from LaFell. Naanee might even be getting some tips from Smitty, as we are seeing steady improvement in his game as well.

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