Panthers Offense Turns Back the Clock, Leads To "Embarrassing" Effort Against Titans
by Bill Voth on Nov 13, 2011 8:28 PM EST
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PrintDuring the first half of the 2011 season, the Carolina Panthers defense wasn’t very good and their special teams were anything but. There was one bright spot, though: The offense was potentially turning into something special.
Sunday against the Tennessee Titans, the Panthers defense and special teams were who they’ve been, but disturbingly -- the offense took an unpleasant trip back in time to 2010.
Carolina was shutout at halftime and finished without a touchdown.
They rarely threatened to stretch the field.
At the two-minute warning, there may have been more bodies on the sidelines than in the stands.
It was a flashback to all-to-familiar scenes of last season, but this time, Jimmy Clausen was in sweatpants and John Fox was winning an unlikely statistical game with the Broncos.
His replacement came off the bye week preaching a philosophy of a "new season". Ron Rivera sure could use a mulligan.
"It is hard when you take a step back, especially after the things we had done in the first eight games," Rivera said. "To have this type of game coming off a bye, it is bewildering. It’s disappointing. It’s not acceptable, starting with me."
While the blame of the 30-3 loss may start with Rivera, there’s plenty to go around.
On offense, potent turned into inept. Gone were the big plays. Cam Newton turned into a check-down machine, and that’s when he actually had time to throw. Newton was sacked a season-high five times with four of those sacks coming on first down.
Perhaps someone with the Titans put on tape of the Panthers first eight games and noticed an obvious trend: Carolina offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski isn’t fond of running the football -- especially on first down.
Tennessee’s game-plan of blitzing on first down against Carolina’s overwhelmed offensive line put Newton in constant duress. The sacks, combined with a handful of penalties, forced the Panthers into numerous third-and-long situations. Their third down conversion rate for the game? A paltry 3-for-14.
The NFL’s fifth-ranked offense was shut down. The league’s most exciting rookie morphed into just another rookie quarterback. It was 2010 all over again.
"There’s no excuses, we just got outplayed today, simple and plain," Newton said. "This can’t happen, this is embarrassing."
That’s the word Newton used again and again in his post game press conference -- embarrassing. But early in the first quarter, before it was apparent just how embarrassing the day would be, Newton and the Panthers threatened to tie the game at 7. They drove from their own 20 yard line to the Titans 17. Then, Greg Olsen fumbled away the opportunity.
"It was just an overall pathetic effort by us. It started out early with me fumbling," Olsen admitted. "You catch a first down and you fumble and it’s unacceptable. It starts there and it snowballed on us."
Actually, the snowball started its descent down the hill before Olsen’s turnover. Minutes earlier, Tennessee’s Marc Mariani took a Jason Baker punt 79 yards, the third time the Panthers have allowed a punt return touchdown this season.
It was also more of the same for the Panthers defense, also known as an opposing running back’s best friend. The slow-starting Chris Johnson ran for a season-best 130 yards, finally earning some of that huge contract he received in September.
The phrase "offense, defense and special teams" is uttered at least 100 hundred times per season in every NFL locker room. Sunday, the Panthers were badly beaten in all three phases.
"We got pushed all over the field from the opening punt return to, pretty much, 50 seconds before the 4th quarter ended," Panthers WR Steve Smith said.
Smith, who was held to just 33 yards, did some pushing back in that final minute. A scuffle with Titans CB Cortland Finnegan was one of several chippy moments long after the game had been decided.
The Panthers played eight games previously and had opportunities to win each one. Against the Titans, a complete meltdown led by a suddenly incompetent offense, gave them no chance.
"Most of our losses this year have been where I felt like we went down fighting," Panthers offensive tackle Jordan Gross said. "We went down fighting in the end but not the kind of fighting you want."
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I see...
Looks like the Panthers…
Will Remember the Titans.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
There was a story long ago about a man who saved the world. A legendary receiver with speed as fast as light itself. But he has passed on. His journey is one with the Raiders. But now, a new star has risen in the heart of the South. His veins bleeds orange. His legs are thick, his movement swift, and his hands are as large as the heart in his chest. His name is Sammy Watkins. And together with Sherlock Boyd, they will solve many mysteries together.
by Revshawn on Nov 13, 2011 8:30 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Lol, It gave me a chuckle, +1
"If I know that you like Pancakes on Tuesdays, I might as well bring you the syrup" -Cam Newton
by Son of a Newton on Nov 13, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
There was a story long ago about a man who saved the world. A legendary receiver with speed as fast as light itself. But he has passed on. His journey is one with the Raiders. But now, a new star has risen in the heart of the South. His veins bleeds orange. His legs are thick, his movement swift, and his hands are as large as the heart in his chest. His name is Sammy Watkins. And together with Sherlock Boyd, they will solve many mysteries together.
Here are 3 things I want to happen the rest of this season.. 1. Colt Mccoy to meltdown. Cleveland Browns to lose enough games to get the 2nd or 3rd pick in the draft and 3. Us get the No 1 pick in the draft.
Now if you are scratching your head wondering what in the hell im talking about, let me elaborate..
Browns have 2 1st round picks in the 2012 draft. If Colt Mccoy sucks, they get the 2nd or 3rd pick in the draft we could trade our No 1 pick to them for both of their 1st rounders, 2nd and 3rd rounder and maybe even a 2013 NFL draft pick.
Now imagine the possibilities. We could possibly draft both Kalil and Blackmon and draft 2 stud DTs in the 2nd round and have our 3rd rounder back also. OR we can draft Blackmon and a stud defensive player like a Morris Claiborne or maybe Burfict.
This might be hard considering the Colts are in our way, we would have to make sure we lose to them and 2 other teams with the same idea lose to them also.
wow
thats really depressing to think about this team tanking the rest of the season, but i like the crazy outcome of all that
Its very doable. The only hard part is the Colts winning 3 games. We could lose to them, but i looked at their schedule and its going to be very hard for them to win 2 more after us. I can guarantee Browns would give up both of their 1st round picks and a 3rd rounder for Luck.
by PantherTrain on Nov 13, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Looking back, kind of wished we lost to the Jags or skins lol
by PantherTrain on Nov 13, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
all you think about is Blackmon
You try to disguise your man crush as a draft strategy, but you failed. I hope that whoever picks before us drafts Blackmon. That would make me feel better.
by usana_gaines on Nov 13, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
I sure hope someone drafts him before they pick
as well. For someone who doesn’t watch college football and see he is good because blackmond plays in a pass happy/ no defense conference get very annoying. Might as well claim blackmond a hall of famer before taking a meaningful snap in the NFL. Losing games to draft an unproven player who at best cam be a hit or miss is fucking stupid.
by adam carter on Nov 13, 2011 9:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So did dez Bryant
What’s your point? I’m not really sure who we should draft I think we need to build the o-line before anything if gettis, lafell, pilares and maybe draft another receiver doesn’t need to be a stud but with 4 pretty good recievers and spread the field it’s just like what the packers and patriots do.
by blackdog2485 on Nov 13, 2011 11:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dez B is still inconsistent, love the upside though.
The point I’m making is don’t only look in stats but the caliber defense he is playing against. He did look awesome against the cornerhuskers though. Michael Crabtree also came from a similar offense in college and is still having trouble adjusting to the NFL. whoever they draft I will support.
by adam carter on Nov 13, 2011 11:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously dude????
Do you have to ruin every SINGLE thread with this bullshit?
by FF Companion on Nov 13, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Why do you want to only win 4 or 5 games? What do we gain. Ive said this a million times, do you realize what we could get in a trade for the no 1 pick? A goldmine thats what. Just imagine having two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks and our 3rd rounder back. Either only win 5 or 6 games and get nothing or try like hell for the 1st pick and land a goldmine in a trade. Hey if we where 6-3 or even 5-4 no way in hell id be talking like this. But the reality is, we are 2-7 who are going to Detroit next week to play a hungry and mad Lions team, might as well say we are 2-8.
by PantherTrain on Nov 13, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yea, a 5-11 season really instills so much more confidence than 2-14. Im not trying to be an ass, i pm just being logical. Go 2-14 and land a potential goldmine trade or go 5-11, still suck and without a good trade possibility.
by PantherTrain on Nov 13, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
PT I understand your position
because I’ve read it nearly 50 times in the past week. We all get it. There’s no need to go on every thread and put the same words down. We. Get. It.
let’s talk about the game, or about the next game, but let’s forget this upcoming off-season until it is the off-season.
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by scatterbrain on Nov 13, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Do you realize what YOU'RE saying?
Losers, especially intentional losers, never prosper; winning is the only thing that this team should be focused on. There is ALWAYS talent to be found in the draft, especially in the top half of the draft, and there is nothing worse than tanking in the deluded hopes that we’ll receive some sort of Herschel Walker trade….
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
There's several things wrong with your arguement
1. NO TEAM, is EVER going to purposefully try to lose. Professional athletes are too competitive for this to ever happen.
2. This season is about developing a QB, PERIOD. And in doing so, they play every game to win, but at the same time, to get a young QB as much experience as possible.
3. There are still several winable games on the schedule. You don’t want to breed an enviroment of complacency to losing.
4. Every team is beatable on any given day. The Lions next week are weakest in the area the Panthers defense is weakest, the run game. That is NOT a throw away, set in stone loss. If fact, it’s VERY winable.
5. Regardless, this is a well written article that has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the draft, or who the team should take, or what the final record for the season will be.
by FF Companion on Nov 13, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
that send great message to players in the lockerroom
“alright team, we need some solid players to replace your sorry-butts, so here’s what we’re going to do…now the biggest threat would be the colts, so here’s the game plan…”
WE DON’T SUCK FOR NOBODY
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I think you mean...
grammar nazis, come at “I” (just kidding – but I don’t know how to use the sarcasm font)
To utilize the sarcasm font just use html code: [Type what you want to sarcastically say here].
Like this
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
My bad the html code doesn't show up even in the header.
So I’ll try it this way:
<code>[Type what you want to sarcastically here]</code>
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
And I'm sure this pregame speech will go over well
Rivera: “Alright guys, since we think none of you are any good we’re gonna need you guys to go out there and lose on purpose so we can stockpile draft picks and replace as many of you as possible.”
by JDeLong42 on Nov 13, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Now let's huddle up; get 'em in here...Alright: 'SUCK ASS' on 3!"
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
by Newsinz on Nov 13, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL @: "Suck Ass on 3"
ROFL
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
Actually, now that you mention it thats precisely what he should do.. Most of our guys do suck ass. Rivera needs to say “ok, you guys arent cutting it, go lose so we can replace your sorry asses, if you guys dont want to be replaced, prove you are worth a damn and play hard and actually tackle and make plays.”
by PantherTrain on Nov 13, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
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by JDeLong42 on Nov 13, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we might need to replace you if this is what you're becoming
i remember some dude (who’s now absent, strangely) who was ALWAYS such a downer during the summer. and he brought that pessimism into the preseason. he was down on Newton, down on defense, down on Shockey, down on everyone. sounds like you’re replacing him.
and for the record, i didn’t really like that guy.
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by scatterbrain on Nov 13, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
I haven't been around long enough to know who you're talking about
But I’ve seen someone’s name being brought up for reasons like you mentioned and that he was banned.
You seriously need to place a tack hammer beside your keyboard
Every time you feel like you want to post something about the draft, about Justin Blackmon, about losing out the season, about Andrew Luck, about trading, about anything really….
Just pick up the tack hammer and hit yourself in the forehead.
by FF Companion on Nov 13, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
sounds like a great idea
maybe we can suck for the next 10 or so seasons and then we would have an entire offense full of elite
players so we can finally make our SB run .
or maybe we can play to win every game and not worry about drafts until the season is over
Sometimes you have to do something that you’ve never done to get something you’ve never had. The motivating factor is simple for me. To win, and not fear failure. - Jon Beason
by numero uno panther on Nov 13, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
FAIL.
Just total FAIL.
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I absolutely HATE your mentality.
That is all.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
I hate the mentality of most of this team more. We where on a bye week for god sakes. We come back looking like the replacements with Keanu Reeves as our coach.. No excuse whatsoever to play like smelly ass like we did today.
by PantherTrain on Nov 13, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
But wait, we lost...
…isn’t that what you want? You should be screaming to the high heavens that the Panthers brought us one step closer to the Blackmon sweepstakes (or whomever you’ve locked in on via YouTube highlights). You should be happier than a dog with two dicks right now.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
by Newsinz on Nov 13, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Same.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Ditto.
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Congratulations to you. Hijacked another thread, I see.
Well presented by Bill, but nullified by your redundant ranting.
How about we just win some damn games?
Screw the draft. Screw Andrew fucking Luck and any trade or sweepstakes that involve him. I want to win.
"Excuses are a disease." -Cam Newton
If by some miracle Carolina pulls off that move
I am humping someone’s leg
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Nov 13, 2011 10:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
this comment disgusts me ptrain
Even for you. You seriously want the humiliation of our team picking first in the draft 2 years in a row? Obviously your scenario would benefit our team in the long run, but if this team puts itself in the ‘suck for luck’ category then we have no pride, shame or right to play the game. You really want to install a losing mentality in this team? If so then you are no fan at all
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Nov 14, 2011 6:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mr. PantherTrain
what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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by Tater596 on Nov 14, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
dude just don't comment if you're going to say stupid stuff like this
you are constantly changing your mind and your attitude deters logic, common sense, and all feelings of happiness… you are pretty much what qualifies as a terrible fan
i cant laugh
After a loss like this! Tom Brady couldn’t win on this team! Feel bad for Steve Smith, all time great, but this team officially sucks!
by richyNC83 on Nov 13, 2011 8:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Cam Newton was so pissed off at that press conference.
Must say Gross was pretty funny mind you in the locker room.
Ron R doesn't deserve the name bamf, more
like lame ass. Talks a good game on interviews, but this team continues lacking disclipne. How about kick the ball away from the returners? They suck ass in return coverage. Can we not see so many 3 and outs. The excuses for missing starters are getting old. No one feels sorry who you do or don’t have, a gam still has to be played. I given him another year or 2 before really admitting he isn’t head coaching material. To pt, why would the browns give up 2 1st rounders for him if they was to end up with a top 3 pick? Landry J and Matt Barkely with be top 5-10 picks as it is.
by adam carter on Nov 13, 2011 9:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Jimmy Johnson went 1-15 his first season with Dallas...
just sayin’ :)
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
That’s not the point, he hasn’t don’t anything yet and people on here praise him like a 3 time super bowl champion. Win something then we can call him bamf. Much like my auto correct said he should be called barf. Would of been interesting to see how this team would be if we got harbough though.
by blackdog2485 on Nov 13, 2011 11:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm with you on that, after this game.
We were promised before the season we’d see aggression on offense and defense.
Haven’t seen it on D all year, and now absent on Offense, as well.
2 weeks to work on a game plan, and it looked like they’d all taken the time off, and thought they could just show up and they’d beat the Titans.
Shameful; even worse than embarrassing. Without a road win or two, expect a blackout Christmas Eve, vs Tampa Bay. The bloom is off this rose.
a black out?
Well… Not only am I pretty sure all our games are sold out but on top of that… We play at Tampa on the 24th, not here, so we wouldn’t get blacked out for that game regardless.
Tampa probably will though, but when is Tampa not blacked out?
I believe we play AT Tampa Bay on the 4th, then here on 12/24.
That’s the schedule I’m looking at.
And the Tenn game had 1200 seats left til the last day or two, and you saw how that fan support turned out.
Just a thought.
Hrm...
That’s strange… The schedule I looked at earlier (to actually purchase tickets for the game) definitely said CAR @ TAM for 12/24, but perhaps I misread that. Either way, the game is here in Charlotte that week.
And regardless, I’m convinced there will not be a black out. We managed to avoid a blackout last year when we were absolutely awful. We can definitely manage that this year. Charities, local broadcast companies, and other various interested parties will buy out any remaining tickets to the game.
lol'ed at Cam's comment during his post game presser
Reporter: “Cam, do you remember a time where a team that you quarterbacked did not score a touchdown?”
Cam: “NEVER. Ever. Ever.”
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
He needs to take some Ginkoba, it just happened an hour before his presser. His memory is slippin'
by FF Companion on Nov 13, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
lol well played
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
losing sucks
I understand losing for draft picks, but that isn’t wise from a financial standpoint. How many “fans” will quit buying tickets, apparel, etc if we keep sucking. Win 4-5 this season and the hope that fans have for a good year next year equates to $$$ for the team. This is the only time we got our butt kicked this year. Every other game has been close. We’ll go 4-12, and then 500 next year and playoffs in Cam’s 3rd season. Although today was horrible in every area, maybe losing that bad will spark something in the team. I sure hope so.
Dear Baby Jesus in your golden diaper..thank you for making the number 89. Amen.
by Saul Good on Nov 13, 2011 9:26 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I said that somewhere else
Maybe today will light a fire under everybody to show that they’re better than what they displayed today
And Kasay would’ve gotten us at least 6 points.
(note the lack of sarcastic font)
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
Yes, he missed a 40 yard FG, BUT
he also made a 52 yarder, as well as from 48, 44, 45 (which was nullified by a penalty), and the game winning 26 yard chip shot* in overtime. I’ll give him that one miss.
Mare, the 2010 Panthers called. They want their field goal accuracy back.
* “chip shot” moniker used for Kasay field goals ONLYNewton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
I don't know that he would.
I just know that I wouldn’t have faith that he’d make them. I was literally surprised that Orlindo made that 29 yarder. I mean, I was damn near floored. I was BEGGING for us to go for it on that 4th & 2; not so much because we needed a touchdown, but because we’d be relying on Mare’s accuracy to get us on the board.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
Like I said in responding to mcdonaldwr, I'm not pining for Kasay to come back.
And really, it’s not like 30-6 would have been any less painful of a pill to swallow than 30-3. I just have little to no faith in Mare right now. It’s small potatoes; we have much bigger fish to fry with this team than our place kicker’s accuracy.
In all fairness, Mare is a BEAST on kickoffs, something Kasay has never been able to do. So at least we have that much going for us.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
And the kickoff aspect of Mare's ability shouldn't be overlooked
Imagine the damage that could be done if we had to defend kickoffs too
100% agreed.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
this kasay crap
gets on my nerves. Kasay missed plenty of game winning FG’s for us as recently as last season. Kasay is a terrific person & I wish he was a Panther but he’s not. The move saved us a roster spot and locked up a kicker for the next 3-6 years. I can PROMISE you that despite what happens this season Kasay will not be kicking when Mare’s contract runs up. Move on
"One step at a time"
Don't get me wrong. I agree with the move.
It was a painful decision, but it was the right call. I just don’t think Mare is as anywhere near as clutch as Kasay is. Simple and plain.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
Can you name 1 or 2 of these game winning field goals Kasay missed?
Cause I am thinking and can’t remember 1.
Don't tell me about the labor pains just bring me the baby
Cleveland last season
there’s been a few over the seasons, but his overall awesomeness over the years helps block out a few bad memories…
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
And even the greatest kickers aren't perfect.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Nov 14, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with this
All kickers miss kicks, including game winners, at some points in their career. Put away the pitchforks. Mare missed a 50 yarder, something you’re only going to hit 50% of the time if you’re lucky.
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I don't care about the 1 he missed yesterday.
I care about the 1 he missed to tie that other game.
Don't tell me about the labor pains just bring me the baby
Yeah, but 3 points in a season is just too depressing to contemplate
by FF Companion on Nov 13, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Hell....
The TopCats would have scored a TD and Sir Purr would have netted the PAT…ugh, losing sucks.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Nov 13, 2011 10:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey, I just thought of something...
Does this mean we’ll get another awesome fan post from the already legendary Diamond Fang? That just might be worth going through another excruciating loss.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
I seriously hope Diamond Fang is
conjuring up another fan shot myself because we were served up a “McBitch with cheese” as he put it and I need a good laugh.
by Swamp Panther on Nov 13, 2011 9:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
After that game
Fang is surely awaiting his hearing for killing his girlfriend. She really wacked that Titans game. Damn her.
by Panthster on Nov 14, 2011 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hate that I paid $54 for a ticket to witness that deuce that was dropped on the field
That being said, they won’t and shouldn’t tank the season, RR is 9 games into his head coaching career so the jury is still waaaay out, and maybe we should do what our beloved Panthers do; take the night to get over this debacle and come back this week ready for the Lions.
by Swamp Panther on Nov 13, 2011 9:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Any comment about replacing Rivera before the end of the 2013 season is prematurely ignorant
by FF Companion on Nov 13, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Agreed
Though I am skeptical about Brian Murphy (not just for today, that was the one hire I really questioned). Maybe he gets a pass due to a lack of talent but now they have more starters on ST units so something has gotta change.
"One step at a time"
Brain M deserves no pass to me, his special team
coverage sucked ass with the Vikings last year. Since we all know they suck how about not kick it to the returners?
by adam carter on Nov 13, 2011 10:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So if by mid season next year, if we are 2-6, you won't have an idea of if he should be head coach or not?
You are saying you need 3 seasons to determine? If Rivera doesn’t go at least .500 next season, I will say he is not a dependable head coach. Since he has been a player and coach in the nfl, I give him a short leash, it isn’t like he left an accounting job to go be a head coach.
Don't tell me about the labor pains just bring me the baby
yeah, but he also took over a very young team...
and a very injury prone defense…and Otah…this team looks nothing like what he had to start the season- hard to blame coaching for some of this…
Nobody had any problems blaming Fox last year for it.
He had less last year to work with and still takes a ton of abuse for it. And like I said, if we are like this half way through next season, he isn’t a rookie anymore and had a full year to prepare a team.
Don't tell me about the labor pains just bring me the baby
but Fox was a bad coach last year...
and the offensive scheme was less than creative…
And it's low in calories, too!
No, wait…
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
In short: everyone sucked.
This was just one of those days where nothing went right for anyone.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I watch the post game videos hoping to see Newton speak with some intelligence
but I get disappointed every time….highlight of this week “shoot i don’t know what that word means (regression) but I’m sure it ain’t nothin’ good”
by Atlantapanther on Nov 13, 2011 11:49 PM EST reply actions
He sure isn't waxing poetic.
But he’s honest, forthcoming, unapologetic, and often witty. Besides, as long as he can consistently command a complex NFL offense, I’ll excuse the double negatives and subject-verb disagreements.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
I'm not asking him to conduct a polymerase chain reaction
I just think as the face of the franchise he should learn to talk properly. I agree he’s honest and such but I don’t see how he’s witty. But I think he can be more honest by not trying to sound intelligent with trite cliches that get him into trouble with his double negatives and subject-verb disagreements lol Yeah don’t get me wrong, I love the guy on the field but I don’t think it’s too much to ask for in the press room.
by Atlantapanther on Nov 14, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Some of his comments make me laugh. (in response to the witty part)
Maybe that’s just me. Honestly, though, I think you’re going to be disappointed in Cam’s interviews for a long time, if not forever. I love Cam Newton as our franchise quarterback, but the man simply doesn’t have a firm grasp of proper English. Simple & plain. (see what I did there?)
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
Ok now I have to pull a Newton.. What the hell is a subject-verb disagreement? Doesn’t sound like anything good lol.
by PantherTrain on Nov 14, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure if you're serious, so....
subject-verb agreement: The Panthers are not going to the playoffs.
subject-verb disagreement: The Panthers is not going to the playoffs.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
*sniff* I'm so proud...
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Don't worry, B Dub...
My mom was an English teacher for nearly 30 years. I got have your back.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
Cam is like brett favre, not bright or intelligent but can play damn good quarterback. I could so see Favre saying something like that.. “dont know what that word regression means but it sure dont sound good.”
by PantherTrain on Nov 14, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
What sort of intelligence are you hoping for in a post game interview?
So what the guy didn’t know a word, he was still funny.
I am sure you know every word in the dictionary and can tell what it was derived from
Don't tell me about the labor pains just bring me the baby
I beg to differ with my esteemed colleague.
dangling is not to be condoned, nor supported
This is a very interesting debate actually
There really is nothing inherently wrong with that type of speech. I watched something not too long ago discussing where the rule for not ending in a preposition came from. I think it dated back to the 17th or 18th century where one man wrote a letter whining about how it annoyed him and from that managed to gain popular momentum in order to make it “not proper” to use. However, in the grand scheme of things, people have been using it for centuries before it was ever considered to be “incorrect.”
The whole of this debate can be summed up by this scenario. Someone visits Harvard and is looking around for the admissions office or some similar site. The person asks a student, “Where is the office at?” The student replies, all the while looking down his nose, with, “Here at Harvard, we do not end sentences with a preposition.” The person replies, “Okay… Where is the office at, jerk?”
The point being that even though the student perfectly understood the person’s question (which is in fact the fundamental importance of language) he made a statement about class by his reply.
Something else to consider… which is grammatically correct, and which do you actually say:
It is him.
It is he.
The latter is correct grammatically, but not correct otherwise. There’s a whole host of formal vs. non-formal writing and how everything is intended to work together, but since we don’t seem to have any problems with contractions, which are also not “proper” grammar, I don’t see any problem with preposition-ending-sentences. ; )
that was...
quite a bit longer than I intended… And what’s worse, it was more entertaining than my job.
And you may think you’re job is boring…
Ahem...
And you may think you’re job is boring…
Shouldn’t that be: And you may think your job is boring…?
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Shoot, Ryan Fitzpatrick is a helluva lot smarter than me
But every other franchise quarterback speaks more fluidly and intellectually than this guy. JR should’ve told him to get hooked on phonics instead of telling him not to get tattoos.
by Atlantapanther on Nov 13, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions
I think too much focus is put on intelligence and quarterbacking. At the end of the day all a QB has to do is drop back a few steps, look for a guy in the same colored jersey as he is wearing and throw him a ball. Dont see why people make quarterbacking seem like advanced rocket science. “this guy or that guy doesnt have the smarts to be QB.” one of the dumbest things I ever heard.
It's a whole lot more than that PT.
You don’t have to be a brain surgeon to be a QB, but you can’t be dumb as a box of rocks either.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
by BW Smith on Nov 14, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Do you guys think that this is how the rest of the season will be?
Or just a really bad game? Also is this game a bad sign from Cam? ( Not trying to be pessimistic just wondering what you think)
We won't have too many 2010 flashbacks like this one.
I really think the bye week was just not handled well by this young franchise.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
One positive from this horrid game...
We get to see how this young team (and coaching staff) responds to adversity.
We laid an egg this week. I’m anxious to see how they rebound next week.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Hopefully they throw in some onions, green peppers and some sausage and make an omelette
by FF Companion on Nov 14, 2011 7:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Add sharp cheddar, please.
Otherwise, no thanks.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!
Panthers will be facing a pissed off
Lions team that just got their asses handed to them by their division rival AND knocked them out of 2nd place in that division, if I’m not mistaken. In that division 2nd is all you can hope for this year and a wild card. I am really worried about next Sunday.
by Swamp Panther on Nov 14, 2011 8:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Another good thing from that game......
Since they were trailing so far behind, the Titans defense let Newton build up some passing yards at the end of the game to help beat Manning’s rookie passing record.
Don't tell me about the labor pains just bring me the baby
what disappointed me
was the fact that this was coming off a bye week, and it looked like a team needing a bye week… they looked tired from the opening kick-off, and the punt return seemed to sap more energy than it should’ve…then the fumble, and after that it just seemed like a team going through the motions. Not what I expected coming off a bye week- expected a more mentally prepared team. They looked beaten physically, and emotionally…
Yep I would have expected them to have all kinds of energy coming off the bye.
They all looked slow and lazy.
Don't tell me about the labor pains just bring me the baby
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