Ask Cat Scratch Reader: Part Two
We had so many in-depth questions this week that I needed to split this into two. Thanks again for the questions and remember if you have something you'd like to ask please e-mail askcatscratch@gmail.com and I'll do my best to get you some answers!
Ken asks:
Did you know the Yahoo roster shows Brokel and Olsen as our fullbacks? [...] There was this forgotten little undrafted RB out of Western Carolina who was often in the backfield with players like Stephen Davis, Deangelo Williams, and Jonathan Stewart. It's obviously a coincidence that all three were 1,000 yard rushers. Isn't it amazing what happened to the running game after they dumped him? [...] Tyrell Sutton had another strong preseason and would do anything they asked of him, INCLUDING BLOCK. I was amazed that no one picked him up when he was cut. Would it not make sense to bring him back to open some holes?
Out of the gate let's talk Yahoo's depth charts: Honestly, I don't know who maintains them, but I have found them to be very unreliable. They never match the game day, or official team depth charts. To me, it seems like whoever works on them looks at the roster and plugs in players where they think they should go, rather than where they are.
In terms of the FB spot I think Jerome Felton will be very good for us, however, it's really a position that has been drastically de-emphasized by Rob Chudzinski. We're rarely, if ever, in the I-Form and it just doesn't seem to be a position he cares about much. For now it seems he'd rather use a two TE set and occasionally have a FB in for short yardage, and little more.
As for Brad Hoover, yes, he was great... but it was time to go in a different direction. He was running himself into the ground, and while it was sad to see him leave if Hoov was still on this team today he'd hardly be seeing the field.
More after the jump
Evan asks:
Do you know why AE has been relegated to only returning punts? I know he is still progressing as a receiver and that we only use a 3 WR set, but why is he not being subbed in at times? [...]. I know that AE had a rough couple of final preseason games, but Rivera's MO is to be patient with young talent even when they make mistakes. Has Armanti done something to get into Rivera's "doghouse"?
In addition, what happened to the wildcat and using that set to keep the defense off balance?
I think the word you used 'patient' is most pertinent here. I understand fans are getting frustrated not seeing Armanti Edwards on the field, but it's because the organization are showing patience with him. While he had his moments during preseason he still has a long way to go as a receiver. As it stands the offense is running with three WRs and two TEs on downs where they want to go 5-wide, and this leaves guys like Edwards and Pilares out in the cold. Realistically next year will probably be a put up or shut up year for him with Legedu Naanee gone, and he'll need to assert his ability throughout training camp in 2012.
I don't think he's in a 'doghouse' because there hasn't really been a doghouse. If you're on Rivera's bad side then you're off the team pretty quickly, and he's not afraid to say why. As it pertains to the wildcat I'll admit I'm a littler surprised Chudzinski is using DeAngelo the few times we've seen a wildcat rather than AE, but honestly I'll be surprised if wee see that package 10 times this year.
Now a question about D-Will:
If we can trade Deangelo in the offseason for a draft pick, would the new CBA have any of his contract still count on our cap or would his new team assume full responsibility for the figure? Also, I remember reading that teams have until December to submit a final cap figure and that the CJ or DWill bonus can be manipulated at that point to lessen the future money they are owed. I would like to know if that info was correct.
If (and it's a big if) DeAngelo was traded, then the team who received him would indeed assume everything remaining on his contract, unless some special compensation was built into the trade, but this is quite rare.
In terms of manipulating the cap number what you found is correct, the Panthers have until mid December in which they can choose to pay more of the signing bonus up front to amortize the remaining years on the deal. What I expect will happen is that Rivera and Hurney will keep tinkering with the roster until mid December, at which point they'll stop and the front office will pay all the guys who were just resigned more money until they hit the cap ceiling, thereby making their future cap hit less.
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FB's Today, In Chud's System Have To Be Able To Do More Than Block To Get Much Playing Time
A 2 TE offense provided much more offensive threats than a 1 TE / 1 FB set, along with a 7 man line (TE on each end) makes it equally likely for the Panthers to run to either side of the line, and makse edge rushers on the side away from the 1 TE set side to take a wider pass rush lane.
A FB the Panthers should try very hard to sign, once he’s healthy again (he was released by the Broncos in training camp with an injury settlement, because of an ankle injury) isn’t even a FB. He’s a rookie RB from Auburn, Mario Fannin (5-10 3/8, 231, 4.38-40, 1.51-10), who blocks like a FB. Fannin was never the bell cow RB at Auburn, only rushing for a career high of 448 yards as a freshman (5.3 YPC), 4,4 YPC on 238 yards as a soph, 8.4 YPC on 285 yards as a junior, and 6.5 YPC on 395 yards as a senior. He’s also a very good (maybe great) receiver out of the backfield, with 42 catches for a 9.8 yard average as a junior.
I was pulling for us to nab Fannin with the UDFA signings...
he’s an excellent receiver (at least in terms of RB receiving capabilities), and is indeed a good blocker (if anyone goes back to the tape of Auburn last year, one will see him making an impact on a vast number of scoring plays). What was the extent of his ankle injury though?
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
Re: Fannin:
You have to be pretty good to keep Micheal Dyer off the field. (IIRC they split snaps in 2010—Dyer’s freshman year.)
"Between you, me and the wall here, I had a bit of a doozy myself last night. Get this: A corn-fed harvest mouse, a hooker, a nun, a Flemish peasant woman, whips, chains, whistles yo-yo's, a circus midget. My grandmother riding by on a bicycle giving me the finger, and a duck! Now, I don't know 'bout you...Are you crying?"
Re: Fannin
He’s be a heck of a prospect to groom behind DWill, JStew and Goodson. If you bring in running backs 2-3 years apart the veterans can teach in incoming talent and the front office can sign them to long term contracts as they develop.
What might scare some teams is that he also had that ankle injury in college.
Chudz is tough to figure out at times, but remember we're used to the likes of Jelly Donut. I'm not sure why we're not seeing
more of Armanti in some sets, just to change things up. Same for Pilares, if his ankle’s full strength. I would guess he’s going by who performs in practice… and, as James said, letting the young guys grow a bit. Another interesting thing to me is the noticeable absence of Goodson other than on KRs.
Things certainly will continue to evolve over the course of the season, but there’s not much to complain about in terms of the offense’s production.
So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.
Thanks
for answering my cap questions. I know Hurney is a reported cap guru so it will be intersting to see how they manipulate things in December.
by TXPanther on Oct 5, 2011 5:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
ProFootballTalk.com Reported The League's Salary Cap Numbers Yesterday & The Are 30th, Only $2.3 Million Under The Cap
Talk about cap problems, the Giants are only $70,000 under the cap.
Nobody is calling for the return of Hoover
The return mentioned was Sutton, not Hoover: Sutton has been an effective runner, receiver, and blocker. Isn’t that what you want in your backfield?
By the way, good or bad, Rivera seems obsessed with former players; if one is available, let’s go get him. He just picked up a couple more, one at the cost of his DC’s protege who let Hester get by him. By the way, how’s Nanee working out as the #2?
I'm not willing to go there.
If you ask me there’s a reason Sutton was let go, and I highly doubt Considine was McDermott’s protege. Just someone he was familiar with. And considering how open Naanee is getting, I understand the desire to play him, however now is the time to bench him.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 5, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Felton has played well...
He just doesn’t see much play time. The few times I have seen him block, the running backs had big gains. They just don’t use him enough. He is a big upgrade over Fi.
by Panthster on Oct 6, 2011 11:21 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

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