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No Respect? Jared Allen Unimpressed with Newton

Commenting after Carolina's loss, defensive end Jared Allen (1 sack, a forced fumble, & a fumble recovery) was quite critical, and sounded unimpressed of Cam Newton's performance Sunday.

Here are his comments:

He made the one scramble, but he's young. He's got a long way to go. He's trying to be a pocket passer."

Is he kidding? Cam's "trying" to be a pocket passer? I think 290 passing yards & 3 TD PASSES qualify him as already there. And forget about his passer rating. I mean come on, it was a measly 117.6. Here are some other facts for this dimwit. So far thru the season, Cam has 2,393 passing yards, a 60.6 completion percentage with 11 passing touchdowns.

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CAM LOST

of course PONDER is better HE WON

by IMWright on Nov 1, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm, blatant trolling or flawed thinking?

Ponder’s team, the Vikings, did win the game largely on the legs of AP with some help from Ponder’s arm, decent defense and good special teams play. Cam almost won it mostly on his arm with some help from his legs and very little support from running backs or special teams and the defense wilted late. Yes, Cam’s fumbles hurt the cause but blindside hits are not all on the QB. Do you seriously think that there is any other rookie QB that we couldn’t trade Cam for? Not that we would ever consider that, but you can bet that all the coaches, GMs and teammates talking up their young QBs would trip over each other to trade for Cam.

by CarvedTones on Nov 1, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Using this logic...

When the Bills played the Patriots in Week 3 we can say:

BRADY LOST

of course FITZPATRICK is better HE WON

Uh-huh…

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by Ivan459 on Nov 1, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

All the win means is...

…the Vikings were the better TEAM.

If we’re comparing individual QBs at their position, Cam outplayed Ponder.

Newton: 22/35, 290 yds, 3 TDs
Ponder: 18/28, 236 yds, 1 TD

The elements that allowed the Vikings to win the game wasn’t so much Ponder’s play as the fact that Adrian Peterson was matched up against a really terrible Panthers’ defense (both in stopping the run AND in LB’er coverage against RBs and TEs on dump-off passes)…and the fact that the Vikings had a much better game plan on defense with the personnel to execute it without incurring the penalties that afflicted the Panthers so much. I’d also give Minnesota the edge on special teams.

Doesn’t mean Ponder isn’t a good or decent QB. He’s doing quite well, actually. But you don’t take the measure of a QB just based on wins. You can take the measure of team on that. And that’s why this is a team game.

Just my two cents,
—Neil

by NSpicer on Nov 1, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

A guy with a mullet AND tights...eh..can't do it..

huh..I guess that works for both of them huh?..

Rocking the boat and righting the ship! Making the moves needed...Go Panthers!!!

by UNCMattyt99 on Nov 1, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

woah

by our powers combined? nice, that is one mullett i do trust

And over there in the tree, is a chipmunk nest. And that right there, is our corn, best in the city, it's delcious. And that is a crazy lady. So now you pretty much know what I do. Pretty dang exciting, huh?

by lazerlayell on Nov 1, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean come on!

How big of an idiot can you really make yourself out to be?

by HiHoSilver on Oct 31, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty big it seems. Mullett anyone?

Cam is not a great pocket passer, he is just connecting with his aerial targets often and accurately.

;)

by jdough on Nov 2, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're reading way too much into it

My take on it was that he’s saying that Cam wants to be a Pocket passer as opposed to a Scrambler. Nothing more. Explaining why he stayed there, showing poise, and took those blindside sacks. A scrambler would have started the play bootlegging to one side or the other.

I took it as a partial compliment.

by jovox on Oct 31, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree

This is how I read it too.

by BeatEmDown on Oct 31, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is a pocket passer.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Oct 31, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

ALAC was suggesting that you should have posted this as a FanShot

instead of a FanPost.

Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY! I mean, assuming the lockout will end anytime soon...
Biyombo fo...ah who am I kidding? GO PANTHERS!

by Newsinz on Oct 31, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lone Ranger was Hi Ho Silver.

7 Dwarf’s was My Ho.

"Keep Pounding" -Sam Mills
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by ALAC on Oct 31, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL... are you implying that Snow White could have been a coke ho'. Must be where she got the name.

Sleepy needs a toot, btw.

So much to be done, and so few people willing to do it for me.

by Rick Bates on Oct 31, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol.......

Could be!

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by ALAC on Oct 31, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Judging by the look on grumpy’s face he wasn’t allowed anal

Save us Pilares

by LimeyPanther on Oct 31, 2011 9:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And judging by the look on Dopey’s face he’s the one who got anal.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

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by BW Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It may be wrong to say it, but your "keep pounding" sig just below that is nigh poetic

Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing you will be an idiot in the future and common sense is knowing you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

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by Vagus on Oct 31, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lone Ranger=Hi-Ho Silver

As for the 7 dwarfs I’m not 100% certian other than “silver” was not included. lol
jovox, you might be right. I may have jumped the gun, but the first impression I had reading it didn’t have the same positive take you spun on it.

by HiHoSilver on Oct 31, 2011 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Only on CSR can we have a legitimate debate on HiHo Silver vs. Hi Yo Silver...

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

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by BW Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Allen's just being a bitch

cause he only had one sack and “rattled” our rookie qb all day into a meager 117 QB rating.

When a team wins by the opposing kicker missing a kick his kid sister could have made… its not much of a win. Is it?

by Panthster on Oct 31, 2011 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, but a win is a win

We would have been happy if the roles were reversed, right? Just saying…

Iranian Air Defense Site: 'Unknown aircraft you are in Iranian airspace. Identify yourself.'
Aircraft: 'This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi airspace.'
Air Defense Site: 'You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace we will launch interceptor aircraft!'
Aircraft: 'This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!'
Air Defense Site: (... total silence)

by Tarheel Soldier on Nov 1, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

very happy

Damn kick. I really liked Mares locker room interview after the miss. I am not mad at him and will be rooting for him in the next game. Even if he makes the kick it is not sure thing that we would have won anyway.

by Panthster on Nov 1, 2011 10:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He just doesn't want to join the long list

of opponents who have left singing Cams praises. He’s just too much of a hard ass to gush over the opposing team’s QB that they just beat. Trust me, he knows Cam’s the man, he just isn’t going to say it.

by jcbouche on Oct 31, 2011 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Jared A thru text message has stated how good Newton

is even more scary scrambling. Stop being so sensitive, everybody has their own opinion.

by adam carter on Oct 31, 2011 9:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

hah now that I read it twice…anyone who thinks he’s dissing Cam is reading into way too much

by jcbouche on Oct 31, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. Glad to see ignorance still alive and well in the NFL.

Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme

by Ivan459 on Oct 31, 2011 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s that arrogance James was talking about. Turning a compliment into an insult just because he didn’t glowingly praise Newton.

by SlayerGhaleon on Nov 1, 2011 4:58 AM EDT reply actions  

With all of the hate that's been thrown on Cam

It could very easily be interpreted as an insult. After re-reading it, I even concured that it could be read as a complement…

by HiHoSilver on Nov 1, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

So… Jared Allen’s not impressed with Cam? That’s kind of funny… I’m not impressed with Jared’s sack numbers this season. So… like he’s close to breaking Michael Strahan’s single season sack record? Pfft! Big deal.

My QB is on the way to breaking rookie records. ALL of them!

by scorpion12 on Nov 1, 2011 7:22 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

...wait, there's a story here?

Why are we crying every time someone says anything that can be remotely construed as negative? Who F’ing cares! His team won, he can talk all the crap he wants to…

Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski

by Tomthehomer on Nov 1, 2011 8:21 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+69

Iranian Air Defense Site: 'Unknown aircraft you are in Iranian airspace. Identify yourself.'
Aircraft: 'This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi airspace.'
Air Defense Site: 'You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace we will launch interceptor aircraft!'
Aircraft: 'This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!'
Air Defense Site: (... total silence)

by Tarheel Soldier on Nov 1, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not if he has any class he can't.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Nov 1, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Psssh, who cares about class when it comes to trash talk?

You should know better than anyone, seeing as you are a follower of some of the biggest trash talkers in the NCAA! :p

Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski

by Tomthehomer on Nov 1, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not anymore they don't. =(

And that’s just college kids having fun. This is the pros.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Nov 1, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's an entertainment league still...

talking trash is all part of it, no matter if it’s subtle, intended, or blatant; and although I’m enjoying the Hurricanes fall from grace quite a bit, I know it won’t last lol

Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski

by Tomthehomer on Nov 1, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the NCAA hit them with sanctions then there's a good chance the program will fold.

They’re talent depleted as it is and the new AD is all about performance in classrooms, not on the football field (which is fucking madness if you ask me – the football team brings in a ton of money and publicity to the school).

Take away scholarships and they’ll be at the bottom of the division for the next five years.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Nov 1, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

Still though…I’ve grown up with Miami being the perennial championship contender for the most part, so it is weird to think that they might become cellar dwellers for a little while

Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski

by Tomthehomer on Nov 1, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a reason Jared has done so well for so long

That attitude.

Why condemn him when Steve Smith does the same?

by univonc on Nov 1, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Jared is just pissed that Kim Kardashian has taken his spotlight

And Dancing with the Stars is getting it in high gear.

GEESH! More important things……

by univonc on Nov 1, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jared Allen is just talking crazy.

I think he just wants Cam to run more, but he’s acting as if Cam isn’t successful throwing the ball.

I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Nov 1, 2011 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Cam the Criminal

CAM NEWTON IS GREAT!!!! what other QB has a 1 and 6 RECORD??

he is SOOOO good that the sports writers say he’s 2 and 6 giving him credit for a game he never played!!!!!

by IMWright on Nov 1, 2011 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Hi hater............

I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Nov 1, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't you been banned yet?

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Nov 1, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Nov 1, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waht a game!!!

did you see how Cam pulled out the game Sunday?? er uh wuh? he LOST??

by IMWright on Nov 1, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

rookie records

CAM IS ON THE WAY TO BREAK ALL THOSE ROOKIE RECORDS !!!!

and be one of the BIGGEST LOSERS of all time ROOKIE record too!!!

the only win for this clown is the STUMBLE BUM REDSKINS

by IMWright on Nov 1, 2011 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

URWrong

OK, now that you’ve got off with your “jollies”, it’s time to go back to your padded cell with the rest of the mentally unbalanced.

Jim

by goofygolfer on Nov 1, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

All Caps suggest arrogance and the need to constantly repeat

I think our “clown” missed out on the fact that Ponder now has only 1 win to Newton’s two.

Furthermore, Newton is breaking records despite a totaly weak supporting cast on defense (to some degree) due to injury and age.

However, Dignifying this poor unstable person only leads him to reconfirm his delusional thought process.

by univonc on Nov 1, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just flag this and move on

All his comments actually. Hopefully admin will just IP ban this guy and be done with it

by FF Companion on Nov 1, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's gone.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Nov 1, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good, saves me the trouble of wasting my time making him look like an F’ing retard.

Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme

by Ivan459 on Nov 1, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just b/c you make yourself look like a 'tard doesn't mean you can make others look the same

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Nov 1, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Nov 1, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was my pleasure.

I’ve not the time nor the patience for trolls.

The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace

I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.

Follow me on Twitter! @bdubsmitty

by BW Smith on Nov 1, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Long time lurker, first time poster here.

Love the Panthers, grew up in North Carolina. I can’t believe how much one player has re-energized the game for me. Cam Netwon makes the Panthers infinitely watchable even when they’re losing. It’s getting ready to be a fun era for Panthers fans.

Last thing I wanted to say is, the board moderators need to work that banhammer a little quicker. IP bans FTW. If I wanted to read “CAM SUCKZORS AND ALSO THE BIGEST LOSERS OF ALL TIME ROOKIE RECORD” I would go to CNN or Yahoo’s message board. Keep intelligent posters, delete idiots.

Go Panthers.

by mh420800 on Nov 1, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are the kind of people we need and like to have on CSR. Thanks for joining and welcome!

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by Ivan459 on Nov 1, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I guess you're too stupid to realize

we beat the Jags too. Watch the NFL before you run your mouth.

I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Nov 1, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think some people here are a little too sensitive. I didn’t take this as Allen showing Cam “no respect”. I’m a huge Cam fan but just because an opposing DE didn’t kiss his arse and say he was the greatest player he’s ever seen doesn’t mean he disrespecting the guy. Just my take but I didn’t read anything negative in that quote.

"I'm not going to waste my time with Tuukka Rask" - Cam Ward

by anonymousJ on Nov 1, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Screw Jared Allen

I had to vent…I’m not gonna look too much into it, the Panthers will be back in the playoffs before the Vikings will. Maybe he can talk then too

-J Pugh
Follow me on twitter @PughDaddy73-

by PughDaddy73 on Nov 1, 2011 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Amen

Jared may not be with them next when his contract is up.

Personally, would LOVE to have he and Charles Johnson on the ends with Hardy creating havoc wherever he wants.

JAred commands too much money….

by univonc on Nov 1, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope Jared is right about newton "having a long way to go"

if so, this time next season, cam will be on pace to throw over 10,000 yards :P

by Lost_terrapin on Nov 1, 2011 6:04 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Newton...

Top 5 Qb in the league! Do the math!

by DeeCamz on Nov 1, 2011 10:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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