Mare's Miss Not Main Reason for Panthers Loss

I like how Cam handled it…he didn’t throw one particular player or part of the team under the bus..everybody need to look in the mirror…gut check time…

but it was the sole reason we didn’t have a chance to try and win in OT.. I keep checking profootballtalk.com expecting to see the headline, “Mare cut by Panthers after critical missed FG” which was not even a field goal, more like an extra-point… BUM

It takes me 24 hours to get out of denial, so I’m liking the 70 year old gimping ref angle right now. No way you make that call, on that play, at that point of the game.

he has to make a 31-yd FG at home in good weather. Period. No debate, he has to make that.

It did, and he shanked it. Plain and simple.

The Panthers are most likely better than their 2-6 record indicates

When you make that many mistakes in that many games, you are exactly what your record indicates.

CLEAN UP THE MISTAKES! or we continue to lose.

Cut a kicker over one play. That’s not the way Panthers fans are supposed to be. This is CSR not the observer. We all vented now quit with the ridiculous over reactions. It was a team loss.

and avoiding the papers I need to write (I’m multi-tasking) here are my thoughts on the game: -The shanked kick sucked. Period. (What made me most upset was how immediately after all the fans in my section started gripping about John Kasay and how we never should have cut him. Lets be real here Panthers fans John Kasay cost us a few games before as well so don’t use that cop out)
-The holding call sucked (be consistent refs). Period.
-The 3 consecutive 3 and outs earlier in the half sucked. Period

I’m not calling for anyone’s head and I’m not jumping ship on the new coaches (their young and learning) but the game today did seem a bit conservative. RR always talks about playing to win and I don’t think we embodied that today. Cam was doing well down field (and it’s possible the Vikings were doing something that made the coaches think they should dink and dunk) and it just seemed like the plays called were not very aggressive. Unfortunately, I forgot to record the game so yall tell me what did you think about the play calling in the second half? (not specifically, the final play just overall)

One thing I am very impressed with when it comes to Cam is how poised and control he is after losses and doing his post game interviews.

You can clearly see he is mad and upset but at the same time he keeps total control and discipline. He never loses it Derek “I take shit serious and storm out of the room” Anderson, but rather a type of mad that comes with determination to get better.

He never goes off the rails, he doesn’t pull a Michael Vick “my receivers won’t catch my balls cry me a river”. He is cool, calm and collected even after the toughest losses.

I’m honestly not the least bit mad about Mare’s kick. Steve Smith’s hold cost us the game. A. We would have been inside the 10 and you know Cam or Stewie would have pounded that rock in with ease and B. we would have excellent field position for a easy F/G that even Mare would have made.

Smitty’s hold was way more damaging than Mare’s kick

First, the team will probably learn more from the loss than they would have should they have pulled out a win. Second, the loss should be a bitter pill to swallow for the next two weeks and I hope it will send an angry and motivated team to the field against Tennesee.
With this team in a retooling mode, I see the win – loss record is secondary to getting better as the year progresses.

And sometimes in football the game comes down to a FG whether you think it should or not it is how the game works and it happens all the time and teams should be able to rely on a kicker to make a kick he can make easily. Like iv said before it is one thing if he was a good kicker and just made a mistake but he is known for screwing his team under pressure and he did it to us and that is not what you need out of a kicker that is getting paid thousands to just kick he has been doing it all his life.

“It never should have come down to that relatively short kick.”

But it did come down to that. And when it comes down to that a kicker must make a 31-yd FG, at home in great weather to tie or win. Period.

He had two big missed tackles that I saw and I bet more.

Wow has anyone seen Cam’s post game interview today? This might be the most obvious one yet on how hard he takes losses, he always looks downright depressed every time he loses.

If you haven’t seen it you should go and watch it. I know I say this all the time but I really hope the losses don’t start hanging on Cam mentally and bringing him down. He just worries me every time I see his press conferences after losses.

Like i remembe some of the plays
the middle lane was wide open but instead he decided to pass it instead..

one can be picky with every play, every down and play the what-if game. simply put, there’s no game where there’s one sole reason for a loss. you can blame the running game, run defense, defensive plays, fumbles… and vikings could have done the same if they lost the game.. just being picky with every play.

The fact of the matter is that the 30 yarder is probably what..90% chance of making it? maybe lower, but it is heck of a lot higher chance of scoring then a passing or rushing score imo. Mare simply did not get it done when it mattered when he was signed a huge contract to make these kicks.

I mean I get it, you can’t put one guy under the bus… but it is an easy field goal. Mare’s made a good deal of his field goals this season, but he can’t miss that.. that was just terrible.

On a bright note, Cam now has more passing yds than Tom Brady for the season :). Top 3 QBs now are Brees, Rodgers and Newton in order.

Juz kant belief we loose like dat. Dont gitit and why we kant juz be gud.

any one who thinks that should be punched in the face

Rivera said “They tell them as long as his hands are inside, they are inside. That’s what I saw.” but I saw Smith with his hands all the way around the outside of the defender.
If anyone really wants, they can see the pics and read the subsequent argument here:

http://www.catscratchreader.com/2011/10/30/2525216/panthers-botch-game-tying-fg-lose-to-vikings-24-21#81638595

If you want to cut the kicker that is crazy. I agree that he should not have missed the fg, but if u want to cut him then u need to cut Chris Gamble who missed on the tackle for no gain against Percy Harvin that would have stopped the drive for the Vikes and they would not have gotten a fg. Now I dunno if we would have won, but we might have. We need to draft players who are fundamentally sound and by that they need to know how to tackle. It is ridiculous how many arm tackles and missed tackles that our D and ST miss every single game! I mean c’mon man… It is starting to get somewhat comical at times how many missed tackles we make a game let a lone a series!

At least Cam has it right.

Panthers Offense and Defense disappear in second half.

BUTTTT we are paying this guy what like 4 mil a season…that is a damn chip shot of a field goal that I could have made. No excuse for that sorry.