You Make the Call: Predicting this week's game vs. the Vikings!
by revdwl34 on Oct 28, 2011 1:36 AM EDT
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Last week the Panthers got back in the win column, and I enjoyed getting last week's game correct, going to 5-2 on the year. This week is a bit tricky to call, but here's how I see it:
1. Adrian Peterson. I don't believe AP will have a big game this week. I don't see him dominating the game and should not get over 110 yards. Why? First, because RB's rarely go for huge games in back to back weeks. Peterson had his biggest day of the year last week, going for over 170 yards against the Packers. Second, Peterson is a little gimpy having hurt his ankle in the 4th quarter of last week's game. Third, our rush defense has improved. Not much, but a little bit. I'm not saying he won't have any big gains or have a terrible game. I am saying AP will not dominate this game resulting in a Panthers loss.
2. Jared Allen. Though Allen is having a career year with 11.5 sacks, it obviously hasn't resulted in a lot of Viking wins. Jordan Gross will line up against Allen and should hold his own. Even if Allen gets to the QB a couple of times, Cam does not always go down as easily as most of Allen's other sack victims. Similar to Peterson, I'm not saying Allen won't have some good plays. But I do not see him dominating the game resulting in a Panthers defeat.
3. Christian Ponder. I was less impressed than a lot of the pundits in reviewing his starting debut last week. After finding a wide open Michael Jenkins for a 72 yard strike for his first throw, Ponder played the rest of the game 12 for 31 for 147 yards, and a couple of picks. And much of that "success" came in the 4th quarter against a semi-prevent Packers defense. He will scramble for a few first downs. But he will struggle in his first road start against a stingy Panthers pass defense. Rookie QB's not named Newton usuallystruggle on the road. Look for at least 2 turnovers and lots of incompletions from this green rookie QB wearing purple.
4. SuperCam. I look for Cam to have a big day, over 300 yards and 4 total TDs. He will be rolling out to the right, away from Allen, and finding open receivers all day.
5. Intangibles. I'm not really sure what the Vikings motivation for this game is going to be. After a 1-6 start, it is clearly a rebuilding year, allowing Ponder to learn on the job the rest of the way and see if they can get a few more wins by January. While one might say the same thing for the Panthers, I like their hatred of losing and desire for winning led by our rookie QB. It is a home game against a below average team. So far this year, the Panthers are 2-0 at home against average/below average teams. Look for that to continue this Sunday.
The Panthers are going to outscore the Vikings this Sunday. Look for this game to start a "Defending our House" mentality; this young team is building confidence that we should, can, and will win most of our games at home the rest of the year. Remember our two home losses so far this year have been versus two of the top teams in the league, the Packers and the Saints.
Panthers 34 Vikings 23
That’s how I see it. What about you Panthers fans? How do you see this Sunday’s game? You make the call,
Let’s hear it!
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game time temperature might provide some interest this sunday
with temps in the mid 50s at kickoff, this might prove to be one of the cooler games on the schedule. i wonder if this will have an effect on kickoffs. will the pigskin be harder to project out of the end zone with the cooler weather? if so, the kickoff return game might have a greater effect than we are used to.
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I don't think mid 50s is enough to really make a difference
Since when is 50s cold anyways? Ha just be glad we don’t play in Green Bay or Chicago. Like the prediction, although AP could still dominate this game with less than 110 yards. Key stat will be red zone efficiency for both teams. If we can’t stop AP from running it down our throats inside the 20 we’ll be screwed, but I think we’ll hold them enough times to get the W.
if u look at his stat line,
AP has really fixed that problem the past 2 yrs. only 1 or 2 fumbles since 09
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we're probably more likely to intercept Ponder
but any and all is good with me. Turnovers were the only way we were able to negate all that terrible penalty yardage last week..that and the fact that our Cam didn’t let the ball hit the ground for the whole second half.
Two other factors:
1)James Anderson
2)Dan Connor
Honorable mention: Jason Phillips
We got killed on a few passing plays last week because our lb’s ere favoring the run so much but James and Dan were much improved last week. Most of the runs we get gouged for are when rb’s bounce to the outside. Our LB’s have to be able to make those plays and I think their starting to put it together.
My prediction: 38-20
I just feel like our offense is finally coming together and everyone understands what’s going on. Our ground game goes for 5+ YPC and Cam throws for 300+. Shock gets his second first TD?
"One step at a time"
we need to vote that guy into the pro bowl
he has improved every year in the league and is fast becoming a star worthy of respect and attention. high character, high motor guy, making plays. top 10 in the league in tackles
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will be nice to get omar gaither back too
one more seasoned vet to rely on in the LB rotation
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The Panthers seem to be the better team this week.
They have a top 5 offense vs I think a 19th ranked defense. And the Vikings offense is 21st vs our defense thats 17th. I see it coming down to what AP can do vs what Newton can do. I think Double Trouble combine for as many yards as Ponder throws for. I think Newton wins the match up against AP, I am gonna say final score, Panthers 41 Vikings 17.
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alright bernz!
i tend to agree on some points. if both teams play to their potential, we should win; homefield is a big part of that. i wouldn’t be picking us in the dome.
but if we play poorly and the vikes play well, we arent good enough to still win, like we did against a lesser talented jags team. we have to play a good game, specifically on defense, and avoiding turnovers
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The Vikes are a below-average road team.
In 3 away games this year, they’ve only scored 17, 17, and 10 points.
Conversely, they surrendered 24, 22, and 39 in those games, against the Chargers, Chiefs, and Bears, all of whom average about the same as we do on offense.
With the momentum we gained last week, I don’t see this as a close game.
Panthers, 31-17.
percy harvin
is nursing sore ribs. if he and AP are limited, this vikings offense really doesn’t have much pop
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Yea I predict we win this one. Facing a team with a good running game is a double edged sword. The more AP runs, the more time is taken off the clock, we will definitley win in a scoring shoot out. AP will get his rushing yds but he will run out of gas the 2nd half and we will be more stout at stopping the run after half time.
I also was not as impressed by Ponder, yeah he “looked” promising but his below aversge stat line and sub par QB rating of 65 says it all.
I ALWAYS get it wrong when I predict a score (who doesnt?) But I say we take it 38-23
i also want to make a bold prediction that we win our next 5 games after the Vikes. We have Titans @ home, then the Lions away which i now think we pull upset. Pressure stafford, double team megatron and open our run game, we got it. Their run defense is horrible and they have no run offense. Then we beat the Colts after that, then we upset Mr interception himself Josh Freeman and the Bucs in Florida then we come back and get our revenge at home against the Falcons.
Ahh screw it, might as well predict the rest of the season lol. We will lose to the Texans, beat the Bucs again in Charlotte. Then we face the Saints where a wild card berth will be on the line.
you can triple team megatron and he still catches it
they guy is a freak. That said the Lions don’t look as indestructible as they did early in the season, so I agree with you that there is a chance we can pull that game out. I think we will lose to the bucs at their place (they are so jeckle and hyde it is hard to predict them). I think we lose to the texans also. In fact I agree with you on all these except for I think we will lose to the bucs once and I still don’t expect us to beat the Lions (i think that game will be close)
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Oct 28, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Im just concerned even if we finished 10-6 it still wouodnt be enough for a wild card. Since only 2 teams can qualify for a wild card in each conference its just going to be so hard even if we do go 9-7 or 10-6.
I think if we made a wild card we would win the super bowl. Cam would go super clutch and stop at nothing at being the 1st ever rookie QB to win a super bowl :)
by PantherTrain on Oct 28, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
but if we won the super bowl
then you’d lose your bet that the panthers won’t win more than 3 games this year PT. so what’s it gonna be? 3-13 or the superbowl? commit
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You could triple team Megatron....
Or put one Gamble on him=D….hey, crazier things have happened
"One step at a time"
i think we win this one also
33 – 17. I think if we can get out ahead of them early, and they are forced to pass, we will really take the game over. BUT, if they keep it close, and they are able to keep running it this game will be really close. I really like our offense though. They have a terrible secondary and I think Cam will have a field day. I look for us to continue with the winning this week.
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Oct 28, 2011 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
Yea, i just hope Cam doesnt have another off day like he did against the Jags bad secondary
by PantherTrain on Oct 28, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but given that he has only had that accuracy issue in one game (seems like there way another game wehre he was stuggling with accuracy but sorta got it together later on, i can’t remember which game) – I expect him to come out and be the good, accurate, playmaking cam
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Oct 28, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
jax defly was the inaccurate game
first half cam was wayyy off. but he led the 4th quarter drive for the win, looking better, post monsoon
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cam is sick
in a bad way, i mean. stomach virus. practiced full today though. fodder for a growing legend, 4 TD’s between sunday vomits……
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Seriously? Where did you hear that? I looked all over the internet and couldnt find anything. Orvare you joking?
by PantherTrain on Oct 28, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
joe person tweet
josephperson Joe Person
Panthers QB Cam Newton had a stomach virus today, but was able to take all the practice snaps and is listed as probable for Sunday’s game.
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Interesting
Sorry Vike here and I know I’m interrupting but looks like most of you think it will be a blow out. We did hold Green Bay to a pretty decent number and I’m not sure that Cam is better than Rodgers quite yet or you have the receivers he has at his disposal. We did get creamed in Chicago, but with McNabb out I think we’ll have a better chance of being competitive. I’m not going to say we’re going to win this game because there is a good chance we won’t, but a team that let Forte run all over them seems to be taking Peterson a tad bit lightly.
24-21 Vikes. or 28-24 Panthers. If anyone wants to talk smack I’ll be sitting at the Buffalo Wild Wings down in Monkey Junction, Wilmington NC.
Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
I don't think
any level headed peoples are taking AP lightly (I certainly know that our team and coaches aren’t). Panthers fans are just excited to have a respectable team again (We’ve never had an offense that was really a threat to score on every play because we’ve never had an above average QB and even though Cam has a long way to go it has given a lot of us an extended honey moon feeling for our new team)
The other thing that makes me feel better is that every week our defense has shown improvements in some area. Yes we have been shredded by some less than stellar running backs but we have a new defensive system (that’s more complicated than some offenses) and last week it seemed like a couple of our lb’s were finding their stride. AP is a monster but he can’t score if he’s not on the field. He will be a true nut up or shut up test for our young front 7. Should be a great game to watch. I’m going to shoot you another question in the other thread Grimes if you could be so kind
"One step at a time"
my reason for picking a double digit W is
i believe ponder will have a bad game on the road. it’s what (most) rookies do. otherwise i think the teams are pretty evenly matched.
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I’m not sure that Cam is better than Rodgers quite yet or you have the receivers he has at his disposal.
Cam is, & we have the receivers.
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wow some mighty tasty kool aid around here.
pretty bold prediction sir on both parts…
Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
Well, really the only bold 1 was that he is better than Rogers.
Smith is the leading receiver in the nfl right now, and Newton has other options to throw to like Shockey and Olsen. So he has the receivers to get the job done for sure, and I might be right about Newton being better than Rogers in the long run. Anyway no offense was intended to the Vikings, I was just talking up my team. Always nice to see the other teams fans when they arent trying to troll.
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Nah I'm not taking it personally,
Just relaying my skepticism. But then I remembered the vikes in 98. You pretty much couldn’t stop me from talking crazy about them. Congrats on getting a really real QB this year and I hope Allen doesn’t break something. :D
Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
cam is not better than rodgers
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Oct 28, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said, Newton may be better in the long run.
This is Newtons rookie year, and he is only 2 spots below Rogers on the qb stats at nfl’s site.
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In yardage, yes
But Rodgers has 20 passing TDs to 3 INTs and he has a QB rating of 125.7. Cam has a ways to go to get to that point.
Adrian Peterson road games in 2011
At S Diego: 16 for 98, 0 TD
At Det: 17 for 78, 1 TD
At KC: 23 for 80, 0 TD
At Chi: 12 for 39, 1 TD
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The Detroit game was at home for the Vikings.
He – and they, have done very little in their 3 away games, only scoring 17, 17, and 10 points.
They’ re much tougher at home, below average away.
"Panthers 34, Vikings 23"
But, first,
Halftime:
Vikings 20, Panthers 3
That is just the Vikings’ way this season :)
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
lol nice, welcome to CSR north
we’d rather get the big lead tho, to get you out of the running game
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Haha
Not my team.
I live in Alaska,
and my name is a tribute to Bart Starr.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
More than a few plays we'd like to have back
Young team, they will learn. Good game and good luck the rest of the season
"One step at a time"
Nice game all
Amazingly enough my first prediction was correct. I think this might be the first time that’s ever happened. Was a great game to watch and I enjoyed the heck out of it.
Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
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